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Commander Ross
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:40:23 -
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As a long time player of eve I really want to keep the old icons as an option, fair enough update and use the new icons as the default setting but I would most certainly like the option of using the old ones if I wish. |
Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
275
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:26:32 -
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Alexhandr Shkarov wrote:I am more impressed with the design than I thought I would be. However there's one glaring thing that I really absolutely find a shame that it hasn't been resolved yet after it's been bad on TQ with the old UI as well. It's really difficult for wormhole people to keep our overview readable now that you keep adding more luminous backdrops, without allowing us to control the transparency of windows when pinned. An example: http://puu.sh/d50Ht/2ac734e933.jpg It's really unacceptable that I have to look away from the shiny places in the game just to read the output of my interface. I want to be able to set transparency levels of windows when they are pinned, to my own personal settings. As this thread was only being monitored for 3 days and no response or even acknowledgement from devs over player concerns and suggestions has been forthcoming, add the fact this goes live in a couple of weeks, the only conclusion is - 1 UI fits all.
Minimalist icons, that are just uninteresting (aside from the new industry one, like it due to what it depicts) and not easily related to what they represent is probably not the best move forward. A Z with a line through it so obviously represents a wallet, doesn't it? How does a bar graph depict a market interface where you buy and sell things? Possibly the most used icon, personal inventory, is a cube, I think, or is it a kite? Personal assets icon is exactly the same as the one on my phone for recording video (except I can change its color)
Industry icon is a great depiction of someone, possibly CCP Minimalist (Optimal) giving you the eve player, the finger.
This little end quote from the dev blog just needs one word changed for accuracy.
Quote:Enjoy your spaceships in a responsible manner.
- CCP Optimal Swap "responsible" for "reasonable"
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Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:15:48 -
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Yay!! For feature of being able to see drone health while in drone bay!! |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.11.26 12:45:31 -
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Having done a bit more flying in Thera and having my camera pointed at that super bright nebula, I would like to reiterate that the UI needs to compensate for that by lowering the transparency automatically (seriously millions of isk in ships and they couldn't install a sunshield), or change the text color to something with more contrast when your UI is facing a white out situation.
I manually lowered my transparency, but that just means my view is obstructed the other 99% of the time when I am staring into dark space. |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.27 02:08:12 -
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In the remote case that CCP is planning on shipping the UI in the form currently on SiSi...
PLEASE DON'T!
Seriously, postpone it to the next release. Use that new release schedule what is was intended for!
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Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
832
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Posted - 2014.11.27 05:29:08 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:In the remote case that CCP is planning on shipping the UI in the form currently on SiSi...
PLEASE DON'T!
Seriously, postpone it to the next release. Use that new release schedule what is was intended for! I am tempted to agree.
It's mostly fine, but there's a few usability tweaks it could use for edge cases (again, bright nebula) |
Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:51:35 -
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Bumping for Dev attention....20+ days now and no response after the first 1.5 hours after initial creation.
Please CCP, go through this thread and really take the feedback seriously. As it sits it needs a bit of love to return the even the same level of functionality that the old version had. And that is a bad thing to do with UI's. |
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2014.11.28 10:46:33 -
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Does anyone have a twitter account that they can use to send this thread of feedback to CCP Seagull? Twitter gets there attention for some reason.
I honestly think the head UI experience dev has put his head in the sand and will just ship this without modification.
Somebody needs to tell the executive producer that the UI revamp still needs work and it needs to be pushed to the next release or until full customization options are enabled.
UI is so fundamentaly important to EVE and there is no one size fits all for such a diverse game and user base. Customization options are the only way.
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á | zoonr-Korsairs |-á QFT !
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3921 jonesjames
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.28 14:30:13 -
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if you can please make option for side tool bar with normal back ground and transparency background, my eyes not very like it |
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
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Posted - 2014.11.28 14:34:06 -
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Icons are still being updated. If you have not checked lately give them a look again.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
951
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:45:32 -
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Salpun wrote:Icons are still being updated. If you have not checked lately give them a look again.
A lot of icons look a lot better than they did before. Aura still looks horrible though.
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
807
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:53:52 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Salpun wrote:Icons are still being updated. If you have not checked lately give them a look again. A lot of icons look a lot better than they did before. Aura still looks horrible though. Arrow posted on Twitter that we would have dev posts in this thread over the weekend.
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Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2014.11.28 22:22:18 -
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One issue I found:
I sometimes roll up my drones window by double clicking in the title bar so I have a little bit more screen real estate. Doing so pulls all windows the drone window "touches" out of position. It used to just shrink the window. |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2014.11.28 22:37:13 -
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Why can't you make the neocom opaque again. Please please please, with sugar on top. I can't see **** 90% of the time! |
prolix travail
Blue Mountain Trails
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Posted - 2014.11.28 22:51:30 -
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Any pinned window is too transparent. If theres a light source behind a pinned window its really difficult to see any information in the window without first mousing over it to make it go opaque.
The reason mouse-ing over a window to see its information is bad is it slows down reaction to things happening in your environment: this applies in particular to the overview. You need to see information at a glance without moving the mouse from space (where you're piloting your ship) or modules.
The neocom also suffers from this.
I've tried the transparency slider and it doesn't seem to do anything for this problem.
The icons of the selected item box which aren't in use are too faint, and the boundaries of all selected item buttons are ill defined.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
951
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Posted - 2014.11.28 23:52:46 -
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I'm not sure if this has to do with the UI perc+¬ (one would assume so), but it would be nice if CCP could introduce some more customization options for the overview tabs and such. Right now it is possible to add color and other formatting to quite a lot of the in-game text, but the method to do so is really obscure and not properly documented.
Instead of having to dive into yaml files and make manual edits with HTML code it would be a lot more user friendly to create an editor for formatting options in the overview settings window. Simple things like font size, color, bold, italic, underline and line breaks would make a huge difference.
Formatting options in general are incredibly undocumented in EVE. I've been playing since 2006 and only found out a few weeks ago that you can use certain HTML formatting in the chat. I mean, come on!
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Nolan Kotulan
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Posted - 2014.11.29 00:58:38 -
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The new last updated icons are finally really cool! Good work! They finally look like something and work well I think. Even the fitting one, and even Aura doesn't look like a monster anymore.
Thumbs up for that!
I also finally noticed that with transparency set to 50%, unpinned AND pinned windows with the black theme remain always readable fot me, but this probably (and apparently when you read this topic) isn't the case for a lot of people...
Oh and, CCP, you forgot to remove the useless ugly corner brackets, remember... ;-) |
Soltes
Nullsec Logistics
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Posted - 2014.11.29 13:20:57 -
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I logged onto the test server for the first time in years today. I had no clue what was being tested, so this was completely blind.
The first thing I notice is some bland buttons replacing the neocom buttons. "That's a quaint idea", I thought. "I guess it helps us differentiate when we're on the test server or live".
I was messing around in the station but aware that it was taking me slightly longer to find what I need from the neocom menu. I'd started to remove some buttons that I knew I probably wouldn't need for a while. Fewer buttons = less time to find the one I need.
"Okay, it's still slowing me down", so I started to hunt for a settings option to see if I could get back to the coloured icons. Sometime later it dawned on me.
"Oh..."
Colour is so very important for fast recognition. I understand this is negative feedback, but I want to make it constructive too, so here is a suggestion:
Please allow us to individually set colours on each neocom icon
To have a yellow wallet icon, a purple industry, a white assets button is probably the artist's idea of sacrilege, but to me it would make this UI transition much smoother.
As far as the actual shapes of the icons go, they're great. |
light heaven
JUST SET TIMES Fraternity.
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:22:54 -
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New UI cover a lot of things even after pin. I can't see anything behind overview, loacl and so onpÇéWhy it can't be hyalinize ? It is important for me which only have a small monitorpÇéCould ccp impove this. |
Theon Severasse
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:50:43 -
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Almost twenty pages since the last dev post.
You asked us to give it a few days to see how we felt, we have, and many people still do not like it.
Give us an option to keep the current UI.
Please, listen to what people are telling you. |
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3975
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Posted - 2014.11.29 21:07:50 -
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I love the new 3D/shaded icons for the interface. Nice enhancement folks.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz
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Posted - 2014.11.30 01:25:38 -
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I just logged back into test server to check out the new changes, haven't been on there in a while.
Earlier today I was playing on TQ and thinking, I wish this UI was less attractive, harder to remember what icons do what and generally a huge step backwards. I was thinking, what I REALLY need, is to spend time hovering over each icon to read what it does, because that is the main thing I enjoy in any game.
I log into Sisi, and low and behold, you have achieved it! |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
951
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Posted - 2014.11.30 02:02:44 -
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Adaahh Gee wrote:I just logged back into test server to check out the new changes, haven't been on there in a while.
Earlier today I was playing on TQ and thinking, I wish this UI was less attractive, harder to remember what icons do what and generally a huge step backwards. I was thinking, what I REALLY need, is to spend time hovering over each icon to read what it does, because that is the main thing I enjoy in any game.
I log into Sisi, and low and behold, you have achieved it!
Save your sarcasm and condescending attitude for GD. If you have something constructive to say just say it.
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Stoned Wish
Stoned Infidels Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.11.30 04:58:32 -
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Just voicing how I dislike the current themes.
I loved the EVE UI for being able to customize my window colours to be as ugly/pretty as I want. Being locked into such a small selection(none of which I particularly fancy) of themes really twist my balls.
Please add the option for us to make the colours whatever we'd like, as it stands there's so few themes. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
25307
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:15:32 -
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I'd be most happy if the neocom icons were to be kept as they are on TQ now. having icons that are distinguishable by colour is far better than new icons that are all flat, dull and the changeable yet same colour.
SAY NO TO SIMILARLY COLOURED ICONS!
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
25307
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:17:31 -
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Soltes wrote:Please allow us to individually set colours on each neocom icon
To have a yellow wallet icon, a purple industry, a white assets button is probably the artist's idea of sacrilege, but to me it would make this UI transition much smoother.
As far as the actual shapes of the icons go, they're great.
Disclaimer: I've not given myself time to get used to the new icons yet, but so far I'm finding it very hard to find the button I want - colour would help so very much with that. this.
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.30 11:45:53 -
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From devblog:
CCP Optimal wrote:As a matter of fact, it has been scientifically proven that stripping color away from such icons reduces search time, as it allows your brain to focus purely on form. ItGÇÖs a GÇ£try it to believe itGÇ¥ kind of thing. I was skeptical at first too.
I'm challenging you to prove that. Could not find any scientific article to prove that. (Which would be relevant to icons)
So let's see it one by one - Neocom An icon needs to catch the eye, but here? it's just a mass of weird things, what I wouldn't call Icons. It's a step forward from previous version, but the lack of color is till an issue. (Aura, inventory, assets, contracts, cargohold, as still looks silly ) The small Icons in the station services look good, but the lack of colors is an issue here.
- General windows: The constant opacity change of a window is frustrating.
The blur behind the windows is just baaad.. It makes the eye tired, as it tries to focus to make it sharp. After playing 30 min, I got headache from it. so blur: NO THANKS.
- Color themes - general recommendation: Let us choose our own colors. If I want to have green with black, then I should be able to select that.
Blue - it's OK. Gallente - no comment... BlueGold - BlueGold??? Seriously, there is no blue or gold in it. Green - would be nice if the second color would have been black. Hologram - on a scale of 10, it's a 7. Minmatar - same with green. A black background would be much better. caldari2 - it's OK Amarr - ugly. Amarr2 - a bit better, still it would look better with black background. Black - it's like a black and white movie. It's a mediocre alternative to Blue, but seriously, are we back in the 60s? Cyan - it's OK Gallente2 - slightly better than Gallente Minmatar2 - Seriously?? Caldari - it's just.... NOOO.
I would like to suggest a change in the station window, it would free up some space on the top of it. Basically move the arrows for undock and CQ to the top, and keep the station owner icon in the middle. And NOO, don't remove the station owner icon. Station screen
Generally I highly suggest to remove the new UI from the December 9 release. You have now a lots of new players in the game, this drastic change with this immature UI, will just scare them away. And the senior players will not like them. Really not like it, remember? |
Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2014.11.30 12:46:08 -
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Lost Hamster wrote:From devblog: CCP Optimal wrote:As a matter of fact, it has been scientifically proven that stripping color away from such icons reduces search time, as it allows your brain to focus purely on form. ItGÇÖs a GÇ£try it to believe itGÇ¥ kind of thing. I was skeptical at first too.
I'm challenging you to prove that. Could not find any scientific article to prove that. (Which would be relevant to icons) I would like to suggest a change in the station window, it would free up some space on the top of it. Basically move the arrows for undock and CQ to the top, and keep the station owner icon in the middle. And NOO, don't remove the station owner icon. Station screenGenerally I highly suggest to remove the new UI from the December 9 release. Yeah I would like to see something to support "minimal and plain is best" - After trying it on SISI, I'm still skeptical
This is good Station screen
Delay release date - Get it right 1st time.
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Noriko Mai
1629
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:07:52 -
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Lost Hamster wrote:Caldari - it's just.... NOOO. For me, Caldari is the best available theme. I still want Dark Opaque back. Please, it has such a nice readability and was very unobtrusive. |
Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:53:55 -
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Going to say it again, get rid of the window blur effect. In station blur effect dont matter because there is no tactical info to get while in station. But while in space, the ability to use the WHOLE screen as information is critical. As long as we are able to get our info from the window via the transparency slider, we NEED to be able to still see what is behind the window. There is no point in having a transparency slider if there is also a blur effect, does us no good when we cant see behind the window.
Its like having a bad window tint job done to your car windows, sure the tint is going to reduce the amount of light thru... but when you need to see thru it to look for oncoming traffic, are you going to trust that blurry blob?? |
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