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HollowDragoon Kring
Silly Little Devils Dark Knights of Eden
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Posted - 2014.11.15 12:03:43 -
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http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/Confessor_550.jpg http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/coming-to-eve-online-in-the-rhea-release-on-december-9th/
I believe I giggled like a little girl seeing this being announced. What are your all's thoughts on skill needs and the general Idea of the ship with current info? As for me I immediately switched gears to max Amarr destroyer skill and any skills I was missing to get the interdictor to make the next step as short as possible to be able to fly this beauty after release. |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.15 15:51:24 -
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I just hope it's going to use lasers - not missiles like the heretic. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
756
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Posted - 2014.11.15 16:07:32 -
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Well its going to need Amarr Destroyer V and probably about 3 or 4 total ranks of "stuff" trained to level V to inject the Amarr Tactical Destroyer skill. Like Spaceship Command V and Weapon Upgrades V or something like that, maybe with one or two somethings to IV thrown in as well for variety.
The Amarr Tactical Destroyer skill itself will probably be rank 5 per/will.
I too am hoping for a laser boat. As much as I love the Heretic as a missile boat I want me some advanced laser destroyer love. |
fenistil
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.15 18:13:12 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Well its going to need Amarr Destroyer V and probably about 3 or 4 total ranks of "stuff" trained to level V to inject the Amarr Tactical Destroyer skill. Like Spaceship Command V and Weapon Upgrades V or something like that, maybe with one or two somethings to IV thrown in as well for variety.
The Amarr Tactical Destroyer skill itself will probably be rank 5 per/will.
I too am hoping for a laser boat. As much as I love the Heretic as a missile boat I want me some advanced laser destroyer love.
Personally I am very curious to see how much base warp speed it will get. For the purpose of blitzing lower level missions and the SoE epic arc.
Yeah right! Cause T3 cruiser subsystem skills are rank 5? I'd go hide in a corner had I written so much BS.
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Arcos Vandymion
White Beast Inc.
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Posted - 2014.11.15 19:01:25 -
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It's curious I'd say.
Strategic Cruiser Colour of choice is Rank 5 Advanced Cruiser of choice colour of choice are Rank 6 (HAC HIC Logi Recon) Cruiser Colour of choice is Rank 5
Interdictors is Rank 5 Destroyer Colour of choice is Rank 2
While Strategic Cr have their subsystem skills, explaining their "lower" SP needed for a more complex skill (while factually they are Rank 10), Tactical Destroyers will not have those. As such I recon Rank 5 would actually be realistic. Either Destroyers and or Interdictors have a weird skilllevel though (3 and 4 respectively would be more in line with the SP requirement progression ... but BCs are plagued by the same problem).
Not that I care a whole lot - with currently 309 diferent skills total at 43m SP I doubt I'll have to train something radically new and or different. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.11.15 23:24:41 -
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fenistil wrote:Yeah right! Cause T3 cruiser subsystem skills are rank 5? I'd go hide in a corner had I written so much BS. Because the T3 destroyer is using subsystems..... did you even watch the o7 show? It looks like there going to be only one skill for the hull and no SP loss on death.
My guesses are based on the general training pattern of interdictors, interceptors, HACs, and AFs. Then again maybe Rise and Fozzie will go on a pub crawl the night before they come up with the training requirements and do the skill planning while hungover (or still drunk) the next day. I think this is highly unlikely but you never know.
If you need a corner to hide in after demonstrating your total lack of knowledge of the topic at hand I think I can recommend a few places. |
Khanid Voltar
Third Way Retirement Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.16 14:09:32 -
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My guess is that the Tactical Destroyer Skills will be either rank 3 or rank 4.
I think rank 4 makes a certain amount of logical sense, being 1 rank below the Interdictor skill book.
But then since when has logic had anything to do with skill requirements.. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:37:04 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:I just hope it's going to use lasers - not missiles like the heretic. It's a tech 3, it's likely to use both.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
760
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:55:12 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:It's a tech 3, it's likely to use both. How so? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2014.11.16 17:03:30 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:It's a tech 3, it's likely to use both. How so?
While your efforts in this thread have been noble, let's face it: no one here is paying attention to the information that has been released and everyone is just fixating on the term "T3". |
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FreshMadFruits
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2014.11.16 17:11:49 -
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if you look at the image you can see 4 hardpoints at the front of the t3destro,which could leave us with more mids and lows. |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2014.11.16 18:31:42 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:I just hope it's going to use lasers - not missiles like the heretic.
I hope for lasers, too. But I could live with it if the Confessor comes with both, for more versatility (since we can't change the non-existent subsystems).
Let's lean back and wait, over the next weeks more info should come out. |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
124
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Posted - 2014.11.19 11:23:53 -
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don't worry everyone it'll use lasers it'll have a resist bonus and it won't have any mid slots! |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries Chelonaphobia
644
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Posted - 2014.11.20 18:59:53 -
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The built in mjd function is awesome. This is going to be one sweet ride! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7007
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:47:55 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:The built in mjd function is awesome. This is going to be one sweet ride! err, where did you hear this do you mind my asking?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
768
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:33:34 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:The built in mjd function is awesome. This is going to be one sweet ride! 7/10
Almost had me going there. |
Tosawa Komarui
No Vacancies
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:24:16 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:I just hope it's going to use lasers - not missiles like the heretic.
hopefully it can use either! |
Freako X
Doom Inc
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Posted - 2014.11.22 19:18:28 -
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one skill would be nice.
I still think they will have a base requirement of destroyer V and a skill for each role the ship can do. So three new skills per ship. |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1279
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Posted - 2014.11.22 19:49:46 -
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For those of you talking about the rank of the amarr tactical destroyer skill; CCP specifically stated it would be similar in training time to a t2 frigate skill. So, probably rank 4.
For those of you talking about lasers versus missiles, given the range modes, and the role of missiles, it should be pretty clear that it will be a laser boat.
For the people who think that it will be able to use missiles or lasers because it is a t3, no. It is not similar to the strategic cruisers in that it is not a customizable platform with subsystems and slot changes. It is a fixed layout, that can assume different 'modes' to favour speed, tank, or weapons range. |
Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers GANOR INC.
77
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Posted - 2014.11.23 00:37:34 -
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Arronicus wrote: For the people who think that it will be able to use missiles or lasers because it is a t3, no. It is not similar to the strategic cruisers in that it is not a customizable platform with subsystems and slot changes. It is a fixed layout, that can assume different 'modes' to favour speed, tank, or weapons range.
That doesn't mean it can not have as many Turret AND Launcher-Slots as Highslots. Now, if it has a bonus to both you can choose what to use |
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2014.11.23 02:56:23 -
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I'm close to certain that it won't have a one or the other option. Like most of the T3 Cruisers have,
Mainly just because the T3 Cruisers have, Sub-Systems, the new T3 Dessies won't be using them. So I would assume by that the T3 Dessie's will be using the Races Favored weapon.
Cal: Missiles Gal: Hybrids Min: Projectiles And of course Amarr would use the lasers.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Petra Hakaari
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.11.24 05:20:14 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: I'm close to certain that it won't have a one or the other option. Like most of the T3 Cruisers have,
Mainly just because the T3 Cruisers have, Sub-Systems, the new T3 Dessies won't be using them. So I would assume by that the T3 Dessie's will be using the Races Favored weapon.
Cal: Missiles Gal: Hybrids Min: Projectiles And of course Amarr would use the lasers. No drones? as far as i know youll be able to change bonuses, so why not caldari have a bonus for hybrid, gallente for drones, amarr and minmatar missiles?
that'd make perfect sense... there is precedent in all cases...
Because tities .
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Aeryn Maricadie
Periphery Bound Dominatus Atrum Mortis
2
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Posted - 2014.11.24 06:00:10 -
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it'll probly go Destroyer five then T3 destroyer one to fly it. But like the T3's you would be a fool to try flying it with rank one. They also might break down each individual "mode" into a skill that gives you a bonus when using that particular mode, with the overall T3 destroyer skill affecting how fast you can change modes.
Total conjecture here btw, I haven't really looked any info up. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1379
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Posted - 2014.11.24 16:10:32 -
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My guess is racial dessy V + Navigation V + Sharpshooter V + Hull upgrade V.
Dessy V is a given and the other would be in line with the 3 roles the ship is supposed to be able to push forward. |
Nedisu
Photon Scorpions
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:58:30 -
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It's on the test server.
Currently require Amarr Destroyer 5, Amarr tactical Destroyer 1
7 hi , 6 turrets 3 med 5 low 3 rigs - cal 400 CPU 190 PG 80
Has tech 1 shield and armor profile
Amarr Tact Destroyer bonuses per level 10% small energy turret damage 10% reduction in sm energy turret activation cost 5% reduction in heat damage taken
Defensive mode: 33.3% bonus to all armor resistances and sig radius
Speed mode: 66.6% bonus to maximum velocity + 33.3% bonus to inertia modifier
Sniper mode: 66.6% bonus to small energy turret optimal range + 100% bonus to sensor str, targeting rng and scan resolution.
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Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers GANOR INC.
77
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:24:38 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:ConfessorPretty Tiling on RoofStatsEDIT 1: I foresee a ton of animations on this thing.... engine flaps, antennae, and it looks like the block up front that the weapons mount on might slide forward... EDIT 2: Yep... in the little preview icon of the ship that you see in the stats picture... you can see some panels on the side spread out... and the weapon rack towards the front also has a long rectangular bright white light on the side. That light does not appear on the rack in the screen shots of the ship because the rack is recessed a bit. When I pan the camera in game and look directly down the nose of the ship I see those lights hiding back there behind some armor plating. I guess in sniper mode the weapon rack comes forward and the ship spreads its "wings". EDIT 3: actually it looks like the plating along side the weapon rack will retract backwards to expose more of the rack.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1891
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:34:51 -
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Nedisu wrote:It's on the test server.
Currently require Amarr Destroyer 5, Amarr tactical Destroyer 1
7 hi , 6 turrets 3 med 5 low 3 rigs - cal 400 CPU 190 PG 80
Has tech 1 shield and armor profile
Amarr Tact Destroyer bonuses per level 10% small energy turret damage 10% reduction in sm energy turret activation cost 5% reduction in heat damage taken
Defensive mode: 33.3% bonus to all armor resistances and sig radius
Speed mode: 66.6% bonus to maximum velocity + 33.3% bonus to inertia modifier
Sniper mode: 66.6% bonus to small energy turret optimal range + 100% bonus to sensor str, targeting rng and scan resolution.
base speed and signature please? I am far from getting home to check
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1381
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:41:36 -
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Nedisu wrote:It's on the test server.
Currently require Amarr Destroyer 5, Amarr tactical Destroyer 1
7 hi , 6 turrets 3 med 5 low 3 rigs - cal 400 CPU 190 PG 80
Has tech 1 shield and armor profile
Amarr Tact Destroyer bonuses per level 10% small energy turret damage 10% reduction in sm energy turret activation cost 5% reduction in heat damage taken
Defensive mode: 33.3% bonus to all armor resistances and sig radius
Speed mode: 66.6% bonus to maximum velocity + 33.3% bonus to inertia modifier
Sniper mode: 66.6% bonus to small energy turret optimal range + 100% bonus to sensor str, targeting rng and scan resolution.
Those bonuses look interesting to play with.
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Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers GANOR INC.
77
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:41:57 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:base speed and signature please? I am far from getting home to check 3rd picture in my last post |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
780
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Posted - 2014.11.25 15:44:45 -
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What are the prereqes for the Tactical Destroyer Skill? |
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