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Nodd Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.20 05:37:54 - [1] - Quote I played EVE for a year or so when it first came out, had a great time. Got myself & couple of battleships & other fun toys. My Corp setup shop deep in 0.0 space & we had a blast. After a while my interests shifted & I ended up leaving EVE some time in late 2004... ...fast forward 10 years & I'm back. I log in & find my Corp is long gone as is my alliance. My character is sitting in a 0.0 station 45 jumps from Empire space. I'm rusty as hell, barely remember how to play. Most of my ships & a ton of equipment are also here in this 0.0 station. Some other corp now owns the station so I'm locked out of the station services, can't insure anything, can't refit anything. I'm basically stranded in hostile territory afraid to undock. I'd like to relocate back to high security space, regroup & figure out what I want to do next. So I'm looking for some suggestions. Obviously I don't want to leave all my stuff behind but I will if I have to I guess. Here's a couple of thoughts I had... First, play an alt character & get back up to speed I've been running the noob tutorial missions with a new character which has been a great help in bringing me back up to speed, amazing how much you can forget in a decade. Things have changed though, I'm not familiar with a lot of the "new tech" & I've pretty much forgotten just about everything anyway. I'm getting there though, re-learning everything as fast as I can. Option One Load up my uninsured Apoc battleship & see if I can make it back 45 jumps though hostile 0.0 space. I can't refit her for travel as I'm locked out of the station services of course. And then assuming by some miracle I then go back for my other ships. I'm not a big fan of this plan, bound to get ganked for sure. Option Two I notice I have access to the regional market at this 0.0 station. I could repackage my ships & sell them right there. Then buy new stuff when I get out of 0.0. I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything. Option Three Cut my losses & just start over. I have a small amount of ISK, enough to setup a modest fleet somewhere new. I can always try to recover my ships & stuff at some time in the future I guess. Anyway I've only been back in EVE for a few days now, could use some advice.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 3643	Posted - 2014.11.20 06:03:24 - [2] - Quote I believe a GM will relocate one ship and everything that fits in it to contiguous highsec as a once-off when you return to the game after 6 months or more unsubbed in null. Post a help ticket and see if that's the case. If not, option 2 is best. You can leave the nullsec area in a cheap ship, then return when you have more market orders (train the skills Retail and Trade for this, and use an Interceptor to get back to the region safely and cloak up while using the market in space). You'll need a few specific trade skills to be able to post sell orders for your stuff while in space. You will definitely lose the Apoc if you undock in it. You should run the tutorials again regardless. A lot has changed. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are increasing. Get your permit now. Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Celine Sophia Maricadie Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC 65	Posted - 2014.11.20 06:07:42 - [3] - Quote "Nodd" wrote: First, play an alt character & get back up to speed I've been running the noob tutorial missions with a new character which has been a great help in bringing me back up to speed, amazing how much you can forget in a decade. Things have changed though, I'm not familiar with a lot of the "new tech" & I've pretty much forgotten just about everything anyway. I'm getting there though, re-learning everything as fast as I can. Excellent move. "Nodd" wrote: Option Two I notice I have access to the regional market at this 0.0 station. I could repackage my ships & sell them right there. Then buy new stuff when I get out of 0.0. I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything. This seems like your most probable solution for the best outcome. I also recommend taking a look at Eve Uni's resources from their wiki and public classes, along with their help channel "E-UNI". You can find that listed under the "Help" channels. Welcome back to Eve!
CooCoo CooCoo State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.11.20 06:23:13 - [4] - Quote How about contracting everything @discount for a sure sale... Whatever you do, welcome back and gl.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out 6579	Posted - 2014.11.20 07:27:41 - [5] - Quote Use the petition system and see if a GM can teleport you in the ship you are sitting in. After so long, there is a good chance they will do that (though it make take awhile for them to respond). Failing that... You can create a public contract for the market value (or just below the market value) of all your items and sell them that way (highlight items, right click, create contract). You can also insure your battleship (do the highest level you can) and try making it back to high-sec. If you die you will get ~80% of the hull's value and an "express route" back into high-sec. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. "How did you veterans start?"
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4839	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:33:30 - [6] - Quote Petition for a move. CCP likely will move you, your current active ship and its cargo to safety. Firesell the rest. P.s. selling to buy orders doesnt take up market orders. So you can if possible firesell it to buy order if they exist. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4839	Posted - 2014.11.20 08:34:32 - [7] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Use the petition system and see if a GM can teleport you in the ship you are sitting in. After so long, there is a good chance they will do that (though it make take awhile for them to respond). Failing that... You can create a public contract for the market value (or just below the market value) of all your items and sell them that way (highlight items, right click, create contract). You can also insure your battleship (do the highest level you can) and try making it back to high-sec. If you die you will get ~80% of the hull's value and an "express route" back into high-sec. You cant use the insurance office if the owner locks it to non-friendlies. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Xercodo Vector Galactic Did he say Jump 3852	Posted - 2014.11.20 09:05:21 - [8] - Quote Come join us in "Help Chat - Reloaded" pretty much nothing you once knew applies anymore. The Drake is a Lie
Adolph Weltschmerz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:01:57 - [9] - Quote Send in your alt or a friend with a mobile depot. That way you can refit to travel in a safe spot. Or scan down a wormhole chain back to safer space. A
Toshiro Hasegawa Phoenix Rising Incorporated 109	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:29:42 - [10] - Quote 1 Pick 1 ship - fot expanded cargo mods if you got em .. fill it up with your smallest best stuff .. no ammo or the like - just high end mods, Blueprints, skillbooks .. firesale the rest .. what you can sell - reprocess and sell the mins. petition to get 1 ship + your pilot moved to highsec. so much has changed it aint even worthwhile trying to start listing things .. but as a day 1 player i can tell you this .. at its core the game is the same. -- you still right click on stuff to do things with the stuff. You train skills. You buy low and sell high. You dont undock and fly what you can not afford to lose. Trust no one 100% you can cant get in a car and go visit for a "little chat". Redo the tutorials. Then do the SOE epic arc storyline mission thingy. Join Eve University, or at least their community chat channel and check out their web page(s) / Wiki for info on everything in game. Oh and welcome back. :) History is the study of change.

Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 717	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:30:02 - [11] - Quote Nodd wrote: I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything. That's easily fixed. Train up the "Trade" and "Retail" skills a few levels and you'll have significantly more orders available (4 per level with trade and 8 per level with retail). They're useful skills to have in any case, and should be very cheap to pick up once you get to high sec. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com New player with questions? Just want to chat? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
Nodd Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:48:09 - [12] - Quote Thank you everyone for the responses, it's nice to know I have options. I should mention again, refitting my ships with expanded cargo or safe travel doohickeys is not an option. The current owners of the station have me locked out of the station services. Training new skills is also an issue as there's little or no skills for sale way out here. I'm thinking I may combine two of your suggestions... Firesale I'll attempt to sell off some of the larger items like my ships using my five available sell orders, public contracts & fill any buy orders that match my stuff. I'd forgotten about the latter two, thanks. GM get me outa-here! Apparently I can fit almost everything else in my Indy. If a GM agrees to port me back to high-sec that'd be the ship I'd choose. Some of your other suggestions are interesting too, I didn't know about cloaked interceptors, mobile depots or wormholes. As far as I know, they weren't around back in my day (LOL I sound like my Grandfather). To that end I've started looking over EVE Uni's content, what a great resource. If the above options fail I'll look further into those. A quick question about repackaging. It's possible some of my ships may need repairing. Without access to station services, can I sill repackage them for the market? Again a huge thank you for both the advice & the warm welcome back.
Celine Sophia Maricadie Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC 67	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:45:12 - [13] - Quote "Nodd" wrote: A quick question about repackaging. It's possible some of my ships may need repairing. Without access to station services, can I sill repackage them for the market? Items that are damaged cannot be sold on the market unless they're repackaged. For your damaged ships your option would be to sell via contracts.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 3652	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:49:09 - [14] - Quote I should also add that an Apocalypse won't take you long to replace. 10 years ago (from what I know) a battleship was somewhat of a status symbol, and also somewhat overpowered. This has changed. Battleships are now seen as budget ships for alliances to field in large numbers in sovereign warfare, or as introductory PVE ships. Once you hit your stride, replacing an uninsured battleship should cost you about 1-3 hours of playing time (to acquire enough ISK to buy one). The ships that cost a fair bit to replace - pirate faction battleships, marauders and the highly specialised capital ships - take about as much effort to acquire as a BS used to. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are increasing. Get your permit now. Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Nodd Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.11.21 05:40:51 - [15] - Quote Yeah we were Gods back then stomping around in our battleships. It took months of grinding to pay for one but it was worth it. Anyway here's what's what... FOR SALE I stripped my Apoc & my Maller & successfully repackaged them. Those are now up for sale on the market, fingers crossed someone buys them. LOADED UP & READY TO PORT Everything else I managed to squeeze into a Mammoth. So hopefully once my ships sell I'll submit a support ticket & fingers crossed a GM will help me out.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 37084	Posted - 2014.11.21 06:58:47 - [16] - Quote Hello old timer, Welcome back to Eve. Sounds like you got a good plan of action set up now. Hope everything works out for you. Good luck and much success. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Nodd Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2014.11.21 17:36:01 - [17] - Quote UPDATE My Apoc has sold (for a good price)! My Maller has not but I'm not too worried about a cruiser. But here's the big news... I'M BACK IN HIGH-SEC Here's a transcript of my support ticket... I wrote: Quote: I'd like to request that my character Nodd & his currently active ship (a Mammoth) be ported back to high security space. I've not played EVE in close to 10 years but I just reactivated my account. My main character & much of his stuff appears to be at a station deep in null-sec space. My Corp & alliance is no more, I'm basically stuck here, will be attacked if I undock. I'd like the chance to start over back in Empire space. Looking forward to playing once again. Thank you. GM wrote: Quote: Thank you for contacting the EVE Online Customer Support Team. We are aware of the difficulties faced by returning players and as such are able to offer a little assistance. We can move you once, in a single ship (loaded with whatever you can fit in it) to a station of your choice anywhere in New Eden. Unfortunately we are not able to move any other items, except the ship you are in. Please note that under no circumstances will we move a Capital ship to High Sec space. This move must take place whilst you are online, so please reply to this ticket when you are ready to be moved, confirming the name of the station to which you wish to be moved. Please don't hesitate to contact us again should you require further assistance. I wrote: Quote: Thank you. Yes please move my character Nodd & his currently active ship to the following location... [name of 1.0 station removed] GM wrote: Quote: Hi, You are now moved. If there is anything else we can help you with, please do not hesitate to ask. So there you have it, I'm back! Thank you all again for the help. It's very much appreciated.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out 6592	Posted - 2014.11.21 17:57:20 - [18] - Quote While well-intentioned, posting GM correspondence is not allowed on the forums. You might want to delete it from your post before an ISD or GM does it for you. Also... congrats on getting back into the game. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. "How did you veterans start?"
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 37178	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:47:56 - [19] - Quote I don't see any names posted, probably OK. Anyway, gratz on being moved back to high sec for a fresh start. Hope you have a long and rewarding career. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Nodd Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:35:07 - [20] - Quote Post edited, thanks.

13kr1d1 Hedion University Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:46:51 - [21] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: I believe a GM will relocate one ship and everything that fits in it to contiguous highsec as a once-off when you return to the game after 6 months or more unsubbed in null. Post a help ticket and see if that's the case. If not, option 2 is best. You can leave the nullsec area in a cheap ship, then return when you have more market orders (train the skills Retail and Trade for this, and use an Interceptor to get back to the region safely and cloak up while using the market in space). You'll need a few specific trade skills to be able to post sell orders for your stuff while in space. You will definitely lose the Apoc if you undock in it. You should run the tutorials again regardless. A lot has changed. Which is bullshit. Where's the harsh unforgiving EvE I keep hearing about? Synthesize options together. Sell the most expensive stuff, fly out and start over, and build up some trade skills to go back and set up a lot more market orders in a week or two. At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 37416	Posted - 2014.11.22 22:35:48 - [22] - Quote 13kr1d1 wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: I believe a GM will relocate one ship and everything that fits in it to contiguous highsec as a once-off when you return to the game after 6 months or more unsubbed in null. Post a help ticket and see if that's the case. If not, option 2 is best. You can leave the nullsec area in a cheap ship, then return when you have more market orders (train the skills Retail and Trade for this, and use an Interceptor to get back to the region safely and cloak up while using the market in space). You'll need a few specific trade skills to be able to post sell orders for your stuff while in space. You will definitely lose the Apoc if you undock in it. You should run the tutorials again regardless. A lot has changed. Which is bullshit. Where's the harsh unforgiving EvE I keep hearing about? Synthesize options together. Sell the most expensive stuff, fly out and start over, and build up some trade skills to go back and set up a lot more market orders in a week or two. It's only done once. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
fallen merovigean Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:10:03 - [23] - Quote Same here, been afk a couple years and Im all the way down in feythabolis.... selling off what I can now and just filed a support ticket asking for help. had to sell my carrier....now to figure out what to do with my kronos/ golem/ and the other 9 ships (widow and sin as well :S) as well as my crystal implant set.... do i opt for saving the black op's or the marauders ? and yea apparently a ton has changed, and i love the new faction ships!


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