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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1137
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:38:40 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Chaining F1-F8 with a single macro key is not, since there are no 'branches' or if-then statements.
That is macroing (using software to pass inputs) and input multiplexing (using one key for multiple inputs), both of which are explicitly banned now.
Having said that I'm pretty sure they don't enforce that kind of macroing as a violation. Which is part of the problem here -- this policy seems to be vague enough that it will only be an issue when the GMs get too many petitions against someone. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25668
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:43:49 -
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Damn I gotta unfollow this thread. It's blowing up my notifications
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Radkiel
Everlasting Vendetta.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:45:46 -
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Verde Minator wrote:prime example of why it's considered cheating:
the starcraft league's back in the day, where people had build orders, hot keys, ways to micro manage their build orders and what not..
they still do. that's skill.
what you are doing is akin to the old diablo2 lod trainers and bots that would farm for gold or any other games that would farm for you on multiple machines based on colors on the screen.
completely without skill
feed me your tears please!!!!!!!!!!
you are only showing how low you had to stoop to beat people with skill, because you have none.
its like professional athletes that have to use performance enhancing drugs to beat the players that can do it because they just are that good and they train hard, and are professionals, people WITH SKILL.
to recap, micro managing used to win people money back in the star craft tournaments, still do today... a hot key not a script, but i dont think you know what im talking about because you act like you have skills and are a gamer, any tool can go do what you have done. i could teach my gramma how to do what you do.
i could probably teach a dog how to do it, im sure a monkey could.. if you could teach a monkey how to point at the dot on the screen and told it to press a key, it could make bombing runs for you...
but okay.. enough. im done.. i seriously dont think you even understand what im getting at, either you are attempting to troll even harder because you have been trolling this whole time using this type of program, or you are just not seeing what's going on here...
it's like putting peyton manning in little league basically..
are you serious guys? your going to complain?
just .. yes please do complain, this is the best, the best fun ive had in a week or two.. maybe.. lolz!!!!!!!!
Will I get in trouble for calling this person an idiot? I can use other words like a stupid person, fool, ass, halfwit, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, cretin, moron, imbecile, simpleton.
Please Advise, GS
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Kaliba Mort
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
1
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:47:17 -
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Sentamon wrote:Macros are not banned. Speaking of 5 year olds, way to make your point.
http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/
Paragraph 6, Subparagraph A(3)
Quote:You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
So if your keyboard macros are not for things like accessibility, they are most likely against EULA as-is. To put it in 5-year-old's terms, if you are not handicapped, such that you require macros to play the game, you are most likely using said macros to make your activity more efficient. Use of macros to increase efficiency of eve game play is specifically prohibited in the rules. |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
267
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:47:26 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote: If CCP were to introduce a text-based minigame that you must play in order to dock in a station, people would complain. Sure, it adds to the "realism" and whatnot, but in the end it isn't necessary. The automated docking system makes life simple for you. Same thing with broadcasting keys and and mouse strokes. It's nice that we were able to use them, but removing them just adds a little minigame that we must play.
how is this related to topic, idgi. If you dont like how the game is played, using tools violating EULA is a safe way to get you removed from the game. Nolak Ataru wrote: Mass reporting of people who are not breaking any rules is a easy way to get banned yourself. Keep that in mind.
noone is talking about mass petitioning, just in cases where use of isbot or similar tool is obvious. Nolak Ataru wrote:I can't say much about bombing as I've only participated in 2 bombing runs with Bombers Bar. But from what I learned about those massive bombing runs that removed an entire fleet was that they were AFK on a station/gate or stuck in a drag bubble 50km off a gate, not that they were somehow unable to react because of the bomber pilot himself. While I don't bomb myself, I would have understood CCP's reasons against multibox bombing. problem with bombers they can wipe out entire fleets. Being able to achieve something like that, which would otherwise require coordination of a decent group of people, by a single person, is way too OP and because of this I welcome this policy change effectively removing those isbotting bomber guys.
It's related, trust me. If you can't understand it, may I suggest you go back to middle school and learn critical thinking skills before attempting to play grown-up online. ISBoxer was never considered itself a violation of the EULA, and it still isn't. Stop thinking that everyone who uses ISBoxer is a bot.
Again, ISBoxer does not != botting. If you want to see bots, there was a video of a guy using a stealth bomber to go into deep Russian space and observed obvious bot behavior. Bots do not require input from a player to run. ISBoxer does.
I will be willing to bet you 1b isk that there will be fleet-welps to bomber wings in the future. You're trying to attribute rare instances of player error to ISBoxers. Please watch the video "Hello TEST, Meet Bombers Bar". You will see over 120 ships get destroyed by NON-BOXERS. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
841
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:47:30 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote: Every time you use "ISBotter" you further prove your ignorance as to what ISBoxer is, and the difference between an ISBoxer and a bot. It's two different things that both use a similar mechanism. To put it in layman's terms, you're calling a Hummer an Italian luxury car simply because they both have wheels and an engine.
na just calling things by names, bro.
Nolak Ataru wrote: Aimbots use the program's code as a weapon, automatically centering your crosshairs on the designated part of your enemy, most popular being the head, when the aimbot program calculates that you have line-of-sight on the target. ISBoxer does nothing of the sort.
yeah, an aimbot does whatever human does, but faster, this is why I compare it to isbotter.
Sentamon wrote: Macros do no violate the EULA.
oh yeah they do, I quoted parts of EULA few pages back all you need is read. |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
267
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:48:26 -
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Xython wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:Chaining F1-F8 with a single macro key is not, since there are no 'branches' or if-then statements. That is macroing (using software to pass inputs) and input multiplexing (using one key for multiple inputs), both of which are explicitly banned now. Having said that I'm pretty sure they don't enforce that kind of macroing as a violation. Which is part of the problem here -- this policy seems to be vague enough that it will only be an issue when the GMs get too many petitions against someone.
I guess I was unclear. Pressing F1-F8 using a single macro key for a single client is not against the EULA. |
Apo Lamperouge
36
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:50:51 -
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[/quote]
Every time you use "ISBotter" you further prove your ignorance as to what ISBoxer is, and the difference between an ISBoxer and a bot. It's two different things that both use a similar mechanism. To put it in layman's terms, you're calling a Hummer an Italian luxury car simply because they both have wheels and an engine.
Aimbots use the program's code as a weapon, automatically centering your crosshairs on the designated part of your enemy, most popular being the head, when the aimbot program calculates that you have line-of-sight on the target. ISBoxer does nothing of the sort. [/quote]
OK, so two things that use a similar mechanism...hmmm
So a skeleton key and a master key and a set of lockpicks?
Really? Are you just are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other?
ISBoxer is being nerfed because it is against the EULA. It is outside software waking changes to multiple clients. Allowing one user to effectively become as many as he/she desires. How is that fair to everybody else who alt tabs their alts?
Your hairsplitting isn't going to change that. You are changing the mechanism of the game by outside software. Period. Changing your F1 key to a mouse key isn't altering the game, it's customization. Making one mouse click do a click on 14 different clients all at once? That is automation. And is prohibiited. End of story.
Put a dress on a pig and it's still your prom date.
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
841
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:52:47 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote: It's related, trust me. If you can't understand it, may I suggest you go back to middle school and learn critical thinking skills before attempting to play grown-up online. ISBoxer was never considered itself a violation of the EULA, and it still isn't. Stop thinking that everyone who uses ISBoxer is a bot.
no its not considered a violation of EULA itself, but its core issues most people use it for is now a violation, this is what this thread is about, for your information.
Nolak Ataru wrote: Again, ISBoxer does not != botting. If you want to see bots, there was a video of a guy using a stealth bomber to go into deep Russian space and observed obvious bot behavior. Bots do not require input from a player to run. ISBoxer does.
isbotter automates clients, its kind of a bot, who plays 20 clients replicating your main client actions. Kind of bot. If you dont know what a bot is. its a piece of machinery which does things on its own, like isbotter controlling clients the player doesnt interact with directly.
Nolak Ataru wrote: I will be willing to bet you 1b isk that there will be fleet-welps to bomber wings in the future. You're trying to attribute rare instances of player error to ISBoxers. Please watch the video "Hello TEST, Meet Bombers Bar". You will see over 120 ships get destroyed by NON-BOXERS.
lmao, I never denied successful bombing runs performed by a group of people, show me the part where I blamed bombers by themselves. Like I saw 20 people ganking a freighter, yeah, this happens. SO WHAT? What is your argument here related to isbot which this thread is all about? |
Revman Zim
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
262
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:53:13 -
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To all the players threatening to unsub their 2 dozen accounts because they can't cheat anymore with ISBoxer, realize that no one cares.
Your accounts do nothing for the game. They do not independently interact with game or other players. As it has been already pointed out, the PLEX used for those accounts will still be in the game and cash in CCP's wallet. Your presence is not needed for EVE to survive and prosper. In fact, with you gone the game is immediately better.
In order for a threat to work you have to be worth something to someone. ISBoxers have no value except to themselves. |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6844
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:53:21 -
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I'm glad that I have other sources of income besides character trading.
Because, OMG! There are a whack of fleet sales all of a sudden today in the Character Bazaar. Great time to buy if you are in the market for Nightmare pilots and miners. They are going real cheap.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Darth Schweinebacke
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:54:21 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:
Again, ISBoxer does not != botting.
The correct version for what you wanted to say is either:
a) Isboxer does not equal botting. b) Isboxer != botting.
Sry.. could not resist :). |
Apo Lamperouge
36
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:55:38 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'm glad that I have other sources of income besides character trading. Because, OMG! There are a whack of fleet sales all of a sudden today in the Character Bazaar. Great time to buy if you are in the market for Nightmare pilots and miners. They are going real cheap. Mr Epeen
Yeah I can use an out of corp Nightmare alt for going back to make some nice CONCORD LP and actually be able to get into fleets!
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Ian Morbius
153
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:56:52 -
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Far more interesting....
Important update to EVE Online rules coming January 2015 [ ISBoxer Forum]
Death Valley & Mojave real world hardcore.
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Radkiel
Everlasting Vendetta.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:57:23 -
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Apo Lamperouge wrote:Kaliba Mort wrote:Cervix Thumper wrote: ISboxer has very little to do with that. I can take all my toons and launch them in fleet and take out a belt. I might be able to take that belt 10 times faster than a solo player but my costs are 10 x as large.
So NO multiboxing with ISboxer with the same ships in the same situation is NOT more profitable at least when it comes to mining.
You pay for ISboxer and you don't know that advantages? Shame on you to think the rest are that naive. 1. you have 10 chars, so you mine for 10 plexes, takes you 10 days 2. you want 10 plexes for your PvP alt for next month - you mine for 10 days. 3. you want to replace a dread - mine for 4 days. Now, if you are solo, 1. you want a PLEX, you mine for 10 days 2. you want 10 plexes for your PvP alt for next month. You mine for 100 days? oops 3. you want to replace a dread. mine for 40 days? The PLEX cost is a fixed cost. But the profit above those fixed costs is multiplied by number of characters. It's the same for mining, as missioning, as ratting as Incursions. This is also why majority (all?) of PvE ISboxers pay with PLEXes for their alts. There is a saying - don't **** on someone and say it's raining. Here is where the argument gets really rage-y. We had a threadnaught on skype about this too, and the isboxers say that they are paying for their accounts in plex, so losing them will take money out of ccp's hands. How so? Just because one person with 14 accounts rage quits because he cant click once for 14 toons now, CCP is losing out on all that MONEY. Sure, someone paid for that PLEX is his hard earned USD, or Euro or CDN or whatever goat trading they do in other parts of the world. But his money is already in CCP's hands. You as the ISBotter didn't pay one hairy butt nugget dime for that right to whine about money... Sure there will be market fluctuations, PLEX prices will fall (this time last year they were what? 650m?) but Empires will not fall. The sky will not fall. Chicken Little ensues. I pay for my accounts with game time purchased on my credit card, from money I make from having a real job, working 12-14 hours a day 5 days a week. You ISbotters.... don't. I mean come on. Do the math, seriously, do it.
I pay cashy money for my Accounts or I did until yesterday, now I will use plex to do so. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
1047
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:58:25 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:white male privilege wrote:if the multiboxer continues mining after the plex requirement is met, he starts making ten times what someone in a solo miner will You're saying that as if ISBoxer is some kind of special privilege that's only available to the select few Chosen Ones or something. As much as I think that alt play should have never been a thing from the beginning, the matter of the fact is that it is, and always has been, available to everyone. It's a potential that everyone is able to unlock, but few choose to do so, much in the same way that making much more money via scamming and trading is possible when compared to mining and mission-running. By your logic, we should penalize the scammers and traders because they make the same money as miners or missioners in a fraction of the time, and can use the remainder of their time to make more.
No. Scamming = Not against the rules. Multiplexing = Against the rules.
"Logic."
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Jeanette Leon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:09:41 -
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Kaliba Mort wrote:Sentamon wrote:Macros are not banned. Speaking of 5 year olds, way to make your point. http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/ Paragraph 6, Subparagraph A(3) Quote:You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. So if your keyboard macros are not for things like accessibility, they are most likely against EULA as-is. To put it in 5-year-old's terms, if you are not handicapped, such that you require macros to play the game, you are most likely using said macros to make your activity more efficient. Use of macros to increase efficiency of eve game play is specifically prohibited in the rules.
If I have a keybind for all my hardeners on a single client it is indeed efficient, but not accelerated rate when compared with ordinary game play of mashing 3 or 4 keys at same time |
Apo Lamperouge
36
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:09:42 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:white male privilege wrote:if the multiboxer continues mining after the plex requirement is met, he starts making ten times what someone in a solo miner will You're saying that as if ISBoxer is some kind of special privilege that's only available to the select few Chosen Ones or something. As much as I think that alt play should have never been a thing from the beginning, the matter of the fact is that it is, and always has been, available to everyone. It's a potential that everyone is able to unlock, but few choose to do so, much in the same way that making much more money via scamming and trading is possible when compared to mining and mission-running. By your logic, we should penalize the scammers and traders because they make the same money as miners or missioners in a fraction of the time, and can use the remainder of their time to make more. No. Scamming = Not against the rules. Multiplexing = Against the rules. "Logic."
Your argument is invalid because...umm wait. Hmmm. Because you're....making sense.
STOP MAKING SENSE! This is the Eve forums, not somewhere you come to actually make sense.
Move along.
Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
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Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
408
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:24:06 -
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Stand your ground CCP
and after that could you please take a depp look at OFF GRID BOOSTER please :)
and the prophecy will come true
CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails
.... Open that damn door !!
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1905
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:31:48 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: So what you're saying is that CCP will now blanket-ban every player who has keyboard and/or mouse drivers installed on their system? Because once again, there's no way for them to differentiate between a physical key press and one that was sent down through these drivers without hooking these processes somehow.
If they use them to multiplex their commands to several clients at same time.. YES. They will!
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1905
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:37:27 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:The majority of people using ISBoxer for those things are automating the processes anyway. Implementing this new rule to punish the minority of ISBoxers who are actually there and manually controlling their input, while the botters go unpunished (as they always were), seems a bit moot to me.
The idea was NOT to banish botters. The Idea was to make much harder for peopel to not need other humans in game.. Simple as that! Anyone doing alone an activity designed to involve a community, of 10-20 people.. is BAD FOR THE GAME
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Telistra
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:42:26 -
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I can see it now...
ISBoxer Development Patch Notes:
- Added new input delay timer to for broadcasts
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Khar-Toba
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:44:00 -
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I just want some clarification on this change (sorry if this has been covered already)
I have 4 Accounts and was planing to use an Autohotkey script which will duplicate mouse clicks on my second and third screens. This would enable me to fly 3 accounts at the same time more efficiently than I can currently.
I think this will be a breach of the revised rules - but I just wanted to check! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1277
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:45:53 -
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Khar-Toba wrote:I just want some clarification on this change (sorry if this has been covered already)
I have 4 Accounts and was planing to use an Autohotkey script which will duplicate mouse clicks on my second and third screens. This would enable me to fly 3 accounts at the same time more efficiently than I can currently.
I think this will be a breach of the revised rules - but I just wanted to check! Yes, that would be a violation come January 1st. |
BKuCKy
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:53:02 -
[1555] - Quote
LOL guys just be honest! You just want that people pay real money for ISK buying PLEX from you! Don't lie to us! |
Radkiel
Everlasting Vendetta.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:56:31 -
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Revman Zim wrote:To all the players threatening to unsub their 2 dozen accounts because they can't cheat anymore with ISBoxer, realize that no one cares.
Your accounts do nothing for the game. They do not independently interact with game or other players. As it has been already pointed out, the PLEX used for those accounts will still be in the game and cash in CCP's wallet. Your presence is not needed for EVE to survive and prosper. In fact, with you gone the game is immediately better.
In order for a threat to work you have to be worth something to someone. ISBoxers have no value except to themselves.
So you stopped by to tell us you don't care?
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Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
408
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Posted - 2014.11.26 21:58:07 -
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2014 the year of the tears
Tears of FW farmers ( with the dps check on NPC in plexes) :) Tears of insta jumper all over the map in 2 minutes :) Tears of i can control 15 accounts with one mouse and one keyboard..
I'm telling you the year of Tears
if i've forgotten some TEARS please remind me :)
CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails
.... Open that damn door !!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7321
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:05:15 -
[1558] - Quote
Khar-Toba wrote:I just want some clarification on this change (sorry if this has been covered already)
I have 4 Accounts and was planing to use an Autohotkey script which will duplicate mouse clicks on my second and third screens. This would enable me to fly 3 accounts at the same time more efficiently than I can currently.
I think this will be a breach of the revised rules - but I just wanted to check!
If you don't know, use this:
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Revman Zim
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
264
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:26:07 -
[1559] - Quote
Radkiel wrote:Revman Zim wrote:To all the players threatening to unsub their 2 dozen accounts because they can't cheat anymore with ISBoxer, realize that no one cares.
Your accounts do nothing for the game. They do not independently interact with game or other players. As it has been already pointed out, the PLEX used for those accounts will still be in the game and cash in CCP's wallet. Your presence is not needed for EVE to survive and prosper. In fact, with you gone the game is immediately better.
In order for a threat to work you have to be worth something to someone. ISBoxers have no value except to themselves. So you stopped by to tell us you don't care?
Typical ISBoxer reply. Cherry-pick a phrase and twist.
I believe wrote that NO ONE cares if they unsub their accounts.
But I will clarify. No one cares that YOU will be unsubbbing your accounts. You add nothing to the game and YOU and the rest of your ilk will not be missed. Your leaving will have no negative impact on EVE Online or CCP's finances. You have zero worth to the EVE Universe. |
kraken11 jensen
Californian CottonPickers
12
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:27:55 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote: If CCP were to introduce a text-based minigame that you must play in order to dock in a station, people would complain. Sure, it adds to the "realism" and whatnot, but in the end it isn't necessary. The automated docking system makes life simple for you. Same thing with broadcasting keys and and mouse strokes. It's nice that we were able to use them, but removing them just adds a little minigame that we must play.
how is this related to topic, idgi. If you dont like how the game is played, using tools violating EULA is a safe way to get you removed from the game. Nolak Ataru wrote: Mass reporting of people who are not breaking any rules is a easy way to get banned yourself. Keep that in mind.
noone is talking about mass petitioning, just in cases where use of isbot or similar tool is obvious. Nolak Ataru wrote:I can't say much about bombing as I've only participated in 2 bombing runs with Bombers Bar. But from what I learned about those massive bombing runs that removed an entire fleet was that they were AFK on a station/gate or stuck in a drag bubble 50km off a gate, not that they were somehow unable to react because of the bomber pilot himself. While I don't bomb myself, I would have understood CCP's reasons against multibox bombing. problem with bombers they can wipe out entire fleets. Being able to achieve something like that, which would otherwise require coordination of a decent group of people, by a single person, is way too OP and because of this I welcome this policy change effectively removing those isbotting bomber guys.
Easyer to cordinate Trougth teamspeak + players working tougether. Its not going to change if People just find ways around it (etc having a lot off keypads to assaign modules to. like one rack off keys to unlcloak, and one rack off keys to bomb. (i have tryed bombing by multiboxing myself With 3 accounts) and if its easy? no, have i ever launched an bomb in wrong direction? yes.. there're allways someone complaining about something. :P, oh well. |
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