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Plato Forko
Forko Nanorobotics
104
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Posted - 2014.11.27 07:34:12 -
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thanks for the good fights, even if they were always in huola 
There's nothin' like skating away from a fight with the hull on fire, some mods burned out and a cargohold full of loot.
See my terribad blog for stories.
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David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
197
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Posted - 2014.11.27 08:56:00 -
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I think actually things have been a lot better since Phoebe. The Amarr have been fielding some pretty cool gangs even. The tier system still blows and we would have agreed with you on that for the last year or two. What's changed is the blocs and dynamics of the Minmitar militia. It was once very strong and close knit but has fallen in to disrepair as vets have left eve and once proud corps have fallen silent.
The good news is we're still pretty healthy. The bad news is we don't feel like we have any close allies anymore. We will most likely be back. But we're a mature group with jobs and families and the idea of freaking out about spaceships at this time of the year is very unappealing. |

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
283
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Posted - 2014.11.27 16:52:55 -
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I'm sad. And happy. Mostly happy. But also a little bit sad. But mostly happy. This is weird.
Things are so simple now. No worries about contested systems. No buttons. There's just me in local and there's everyone else i can shoot. Yeah, i'm definitely more happy than i am sad.
pew pew
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Eran Mintor
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
703
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:44:34 -
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o7 good luck space friends |

Ya Nor
Alekhine's Gun The Periphery
4
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:51:01 -
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David Devant wrote:for now we will be going pirate.
Welcome to the dark side.
I will always remember the people who gave me my start. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2650
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:05:35 -
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Feels like many potentially cool fights were lost by leaving FW before it was necessary to do so (if/when Huola fell). |

Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:13:33 -
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The jump drive changes have done nothing but reduce the chances of capital hot-drops. On top of that, we have cyno-inhibitors.
It is sad indeed. You will miss the fights that have molded the hearts in FW Blackrise. Those of us that chose to stay when corps fell out, to when the victory propaganda was being spread by Test just when we thought Evoke was at the turn of the tide.
Is it a home that was lost, or spirits that were broken? What do you have left to fight for as pies? One should rather lose his home than his will.
Rise! |

exiik Shardani
Terpene Conglomerate
13
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:32:54 -
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Kourmonen is the key for Huola. Burn Huola was not successful, because Minmatars hold Kourmonen. Last week (after many fights/plexing last month) we definitively took Kourmonen back and Huola coalition is in decay.
Remember day of 25. November when Amarrians took Kourmonen back and way to liberate Huola started ;-)
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Anyway thx for fights. TZ coverage in FW is not be easily harmonize with jobs and families. It is so hard to hold FW system due TZ... When you plan fight DbD then we have same enemy ;-) |

Anslo
Scope Works The Blacklist.
22642
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:52:13 -
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Have fun orbiting buttons while you lose towers lol
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
460
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Posted - 2014.11.28 16:15:06 -
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exiik Shardani wrote:Kourmonen is the key for Huola. Burn Huola was not successful, because Minmatars hold Kourmonen. Last week (after many fights/plexing last month) we definitively took Kourmonen back and Huola coalition is in decay.
Remember day of 25. November when Amarrians took Kourmonen back and way to liberate Huola started ;-)
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Anyway thx for fights. TZ coverage in FW is not be easily harmonize with jobs and families. It is so hard to hold FW system due TZ... When you plan fight DbD then we have same enemy ;-) no. burn huola wasnt successful because jesus saved them.
Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
76
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Posted - 2014.11.28 18:41:08 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:exiik Shardani wrote:Kourmonen is the key for Huola. Burn Huola was not successful, because Minmatars hold Kourmonen. Last week (after many fights/plexing last month) we definitively took Kourmonen back and Huola coalition is in decay.
Remember day of 25. November when Amarrians took Kourmonen back and way to liberate Huola started ;-)
- - - - - - -
Anyway thx for fights. TZ coverage in FW is not be easily harmonize with jobs and families. It is so hard to hold FW system due TZ... When you plan fight DbD then we have same enemy ;-) no. burn huola wasnt successful because jesus saved them. True Story |

Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
460
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:46:01 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:exiik Shardani wrote:Kourmonen is the key for Huola. Burn Huola was not successful, because Minmatars hold Kourmonen. Last week (after many fights/plexing last month) we definitively took Kourmonen back and Huola coalition is in decay.
Remember day of 25. November when Amarrians took Kourmonen back and way to liberate Huola started ;-)
- - - - - - -
Anyway thx for fights. TZ coverage in FW is not be easily harmonize with jobs and families. It is so hard to hold FW system due TZ... When you plan fight DbD then we have same enemy ;-) no. burn huola wasnt successful because jesus saved them. True Story
Even Truer Story
Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
78
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Posted - 2014.11.29 08:04:26 -
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what happened? came to huola, almost no minnies. |

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
283
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Posted - 2014.11.29 10:33:28 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:what happened? came to huola, almost no minnies. Over the last months quite a few US based Minmatar left the area. Which lead to the Amarr absolutely dominating US and AUS times while we held EU timezones with little opposition.
So they plexed without getting many fights, then we plexed without getting many fights. It was boring.
Then the usual swing occured. Farmers switched sides, systems fell for the amarr, more famers joined the Amarr, things got boring, more people jumped on the Amarr FOTM train for easy iskies and pvp.
So now there's a very solid Amarr pve force and barely any Minnies left to care.
pew pew
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2985
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:27:31 -
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happy huola day
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
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Nestene Corsten
Heart of Pyerite Imperial Outlaws.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:55:25 -
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Happy Huola Day.  |

Rahelis
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
120
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:19:24 -
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GF minnies - Huola fell without a sigh.
That is what I mentioned would happen at the beginning of the burn huola push earlier this year.
The gals saved you first time - no gals any more - no saviour.
We all agree the FW system is massivley ****** up - but to leave without a fight is real minnie style.
Enjoy farming in the ashes of FW. |

Moglarr
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
24
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:24:26 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Then the usual swing occured. Farmers switched sides, systems fell for the amarr, more famers joined the Amarr, things got boring, more people jumped on the Amarr FOTM train for easy iskies and pvp.
But if you held opposite TZs how was there easy PVP? Since you had just said that there was barely any fighting.
Another question. If the Gallente are all soooo bored in the Cal/Gal WZ, why did they not even bother trying to help their Minmatar buddies not collapse in on themselves? |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
5029
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:56:09 -
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Do you guys think that cruiser and battleship gangs will start picking up again now that hotdropping from halfway across New Eden is much harder to do?
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1194
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Posted - 2014.11.29 19:50:08 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Do you guys think that cruiser and battleship gangs will start picking up again now that hotdropping from halfway across New Eden is much harder to do?
Depends if there is a strategic reason to do so. If the attacking team wants to take a large plex and the defending team want to prevent them, it should be a foregone conclusion that battleships be fielded (or at least long range doctrines instead). As with all things in eve its people choice, hard to predict.
Inherent problem with large plexes is that if your enemy is tied up in BS inside the large plex for 20 minutes, why not just run all 3 other plexes in smaller hulls and make net gain.
Some of our guys are looking outside the FW to engineer larger fights and it seems to be working. |

Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
147
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:02:09 -
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There are all sorts of possibilities that CCP could have utilised that would promote use of larger ships.
However I think they were right to fix the capital power projection first.
Yeah sure their eyes are focused a lot on null sec but, if they should recognise that there are a large number of subs that are tied to worn out, burnt out or mature with RL issues players who need FW to offer casual gameplay with fun, variety and meaning.
I think two adjustments would preciptate a more varied battle zone:
1. Bring back a gated Battlecruiser complex 2. At 95% and above contested levels, stop any new novice and small complex spawns and allow only medium & above. (heck it could eve be at 98%+)
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
283
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:28:46 -
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Rahelis wrote:GF minnies - Huola fell without a sigh.
That is what I mentioned would happen at the beginning of the burn huola push earlier this year.
The gals saved you first time - no gals any more - no saviour.
We all agree the FW system is massivley ****** up - but to leave without a fight is real minnie style.
Enjoy farming in the ashes of FW. Haha, are you all still bitter that we had friends and you didn't? I surely enjoyed wiping the floor with you guys back then.

pew pew
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
283
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:35:05 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:There are all sorts of possibilities that CCP could have utilised that would promote use of larger ships.
However I think they were right to fix the capital power projection first.
Yeah sure their eyes are focused a lot on null sec but, if they should recognise that there are a large number of subs that are tied to worn out, burnt out or mature with RL issues players who need FW to offer casual gameplay with fun, variety and meaning.
I think two adjustments would preciptate a more varied battle zone:
1. Bring back a gated Battlecruiser complex 2. At 95% and above contested levels, stop any new novice and small complex spawns and allow only medium & above. (heck it could eve be at 98%+) At those levels you can be very sure that whoever is plexing the system will have enough people to just run those plexes without problems anyway.
I think it should generally be that you won't get new novice and small plexes when you dont finish med and large ones. Novices should also count less while large plexes should count more. .5% for novice, .6% for small, .7% for med and .8% for large plexes. Something like that.
I completely agree on BC plexes tho, it would be awesome to have gated plexes for BCs. Large plexes just don't work for that.
pew pew
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
147
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Posted - 2014.11.29 21:07:56 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:There are all sorts of possibilities that CCP could have utilised that would promote use of larger ships.
However I think they were right to fix the capital power projection first.
Yeah sure their eyes are focused a lot on null sec but, if they should recognise that there are a large number of subs that are tied to worn out, burnt out or mature with RL issues players who need FW to offer casual gameplay with fun, variety and meaning.
I think two adjustments would preciptate a more varied battle zone:
1. Bring back a gated Battlecruiser complex 2. At 95% and above contested levels, stop any new novice and small complex spawns and allow only medium & above. (heck it could eve be at 98%+) At those levels you can be very sure that whoever is plexing the system will have enough people to just run those plexes without problems anyway. I think it should generally be that you won't get new novice and small plexes when you dont finish med and large ones. Novices should also count less while large plexes should count more. .5% for novice, .6% for small, .7% for med and .8% for large plexes. Something like that. I completely agree on BC plexes tho, it would be awesome to have gated plexes for BCs. Large plexes just don't work for that.
Well I'm happy with your stance too. I was trying to not be too hard on those that love status quo.
As for different rates of change based on the size of plex, I see no pitfalls to that change either.
I'd like them to change ihubs and have level upgrades destroyable (as ihub hard points - the same as nullsec station services) Changing the tier system is number 1 priority but there are at least 10 things I think they should do.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
463
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Posted - 2014.11.29 21:36:31 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote: I completely agree on BC plexes tho, it would be awesome to have gated plexes for BCs. Large plexes just don't work for that.
EVEN THE MINNIES AGREE!!!!!
bc plexs!
larges sux
Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
5029
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Posted - 2014.11.29 22:41:50 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Inherent problem with large plexes is that if your enemy is tied up in BS inside the large plex for 20 minutes, why not just run all 3 other plexes in smaller hulls and make net gain. Well that's just down to FW's mechanics being broken as hell.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Aslon Seridith
Valklears. WINMATAR.
164
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Posted - 2014.11.30 03:18:54 -
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To think all of this started about a moon
Congratz Amarr - u were the right choice.
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**BIOHAZARD.-á**| Minmatar's Most Wanted #1 |-á
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RonPaul Rox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
58
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:50:59 -
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Rahelis wrote:GF minnies - Huola fell without a sigh.
That is what I mentioned would happen at the beginning of the burn huola push earlier this year.
The gals saved you first time - no gals any more - no saviour.
We all agree the FW system is massivley ****** up - but to leave without a fight is real minnie style.
Enjoy farming in the ashes of FW.
this guy, my favorite poster by far.
You stay classy buddy
http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL
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greg01
Inglorious-Basterds Caldari State Capturing
37
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Posted - 2014.11.30 09:02:19 -
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Good luck with your corps future David. Remember FW will always be around. Sometimes it is good to take a break. Fly dangerous brother o/ |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1196
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Posted - 2014.11.30 10:25:48 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote: 2. At 95% and above contested levels, stop any new novice and small complex spawns and allow only medium & above. (heck it could eve be at 98%+)
Nice idea |
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