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Jollyreaper
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Posted - 2006.09.02 15:58:00 -
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Been flying rails since I've been in the game and felt like blasters were worth an experiment. I fit out a cat with five neutron blasters to see how it would work, using tungsten ammo to give them just a wee bit more range. They don't seem to do much more damage than when I had the cat equipped with nice rails and you also end up so close to the target that you're taking extra damage from their blasters.
so, am I missing anything?
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.02 15:59:00 -
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Cat is not a blaster boat.Acctualy its a destroyer so it sucks naturaly(PS:get a frig).
Blasters are the best close range weapon in-game.
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Vexctor
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:00:00 -
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also use antimater ammo or void ammo don't worry about range you get in really close, use blasters on a thorax and brutix they are great
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:01:00 -
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Catalyst is not a blaster boat, neutrons are inferior to ions on pretty much every ship, and fitting 5 turrets to a catalyst is a war crime.
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Bloodst0ne
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:31:00 -
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Blasters when fitted correctly and on the proper ships are almost always the highest dps ships of their class. They also track better than most of their counterparts. Although the range is the big sacrifice. They are also easier to fit than rails.
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Clais Monaige
Prodigy Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.02 18:16:00 -
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 Originally by: xeom
Cat is not a blaster boat.
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Catalyst is not a blaster boat
You're kidding! The falloff bonus sucks at railguns, so fitting it with blasters is intended by the devs, if you ask me. Though i don't like them on a cat, my quickfit testing says that it rocks enough to be worth to be fitted. If you wanna go for range -> Cormorant is the far better choice.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.02 18:27:00 -
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Yeah, but it's dog slow.
The trick with blaster boats is they need to be able to get into blaster range relatively quickly. The canonical blaster boats are probably the Thorax and the Megathron - the rax because it gets that cap bonus, allowing it to run under MWD for longer, and the Megathron because it's tough enough to survive a short run in to blaster range. The Cat is slow and fragile, which just isn't a good combination for blasters.
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Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.02 20:33:00 -
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Cat is a blaster boat, problem is it's the worst one in game. It's slow, which makes it difficult to use in this manner, and it can't take fire either. The combination of these 2 factors make for a deadly combination to any cat user.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.02 20:37:00 -
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@OP: Blasters are good for royally ******* up a target up close and personal.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.02 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Clais Monaige
Originally by: xeom
Cat is not a blaster boat.
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Catalyst is not a blaster boat
You're kidding! The falloff bonus sucks at railguns, so fitting it with blasters is intended by the devs, if you ask me. Though i don't like them on a cat, my quickfit testing says that it rocks enough to be worth to be fitted. If you wanna go for range -> Cormorant is the far better choice.
It moves like a pig, and has 2 mids.
Not to mention 50% optimal bonus...
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Jollyreaper
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Posted - 2006.09.03 04:00:00 -
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Hmm. I shall have to try out the Thorax with that setup. I have the skills to fly it now, was just enoying the majesty of the Vexor for the moment. Four 200mm rails, BOOYA! And EMP drones to help take the shields down. :) So, what size blasters are good for the Vex, and how many? I've noticed that the Serpy rats have some very scary ships equipped with blasters, do a number on my shields. However, I'm not quite sure how they have it setup and how they get the range they do. The Brutixes I can handle, their range seems to crap out at 10km, but the Serp Vexors seem to be able to reach out and touch someone past 20km. Yeouch! Is that a module or something they're using to get that range?
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.09.03 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dahak2150 on 03/09/2006 04:05:19
Catalyst is one weird bird.
1 bonus says rails, the other says blasters. But the speed/tank (or lack thereof) say rails again.
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Giant Haystacks
Ore Mongers
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: Clais Monaige
Originally by: xeom
Cat is not a blaster boat.
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Catalyst is not a blaster boat
You're kidding! The falloff bonus sucks at railguns, so fitting it with blasters is intended by the devs, if you ask me. Though i don't like them on a cat, my quickfit testing says that it rocks enough to be worth to be fitted. If you wanna go for range -> Cormorant is the far better choice.
It moves like a pig, and has 2 mids.
Not to mention 50% optimal bonus...
if you want a rail dessie train cal frig 3 and use a cormorant, it has 10%/lvl to optimal instead of falloff.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Verus Potestas on 03/09/2006 18:22:21
And if you want a blaster dessie, you're screwed.
Both hybrid dessies work best with rails. One, the cormorant, has increased range. It is considerably better for sniping. It can fit less rails, and less damage mods, but for better range (more tracking computers/sensor boosters).
The other, the catalyst, has better damage and tracking (8 turrets, tracking bonus, more damage mods), but cannot snipe nearly as effectively.
Both are pathetic blaster ships, and to be quite honest, neither are too hot as rail ships.
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BoinKlasik
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Giant Haystacks
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: Clais Monaige
Originally by: xeom
Cat is not a blaster boat.
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Catalyst is not a blaster boat
You're kidding! The falloff bonus sucks at railguns, so fitting it with blasters is intended by the devs, if you ask me. Though i don't like them on a cat, my quickfit testing says that it rocks enough to be worth to be fitted. If you wanna go for range -> Cormorant is the far better choice.
It moves like a pig, and has 2 mids.
Not to mention 50% optimal bonus...
if you want a rail dessie train cal frig 3 and use a cormorant, it has 10%/lvl to optimal instead of falloff.
100km sniporant 4tw!
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Vurg
Nubs.
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Vurg on 03/09/2006 19:46:34
T2 neutrons on an enyo. 10km range with null is a wonderful thing.
Originally by: O'Sirius
Ceptors are crappy in solo PvPing
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Clais Monaige
Prodigy Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Clais Monaige on 03/09/2006 20:33:00
Originally by: Verus Potestas
The other, the catalyst, has better damage and tracking (8 turrets, tracking bonus, more damage mods), but cannot snipe nearly as effectively.
...which speaks more for a blaster boat if you ask me
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Clais Monaige
Originally by: Verus Potestas
The other, the catalyst, has better damage and tracking (8 turrets, tracking bonus, more damage mods), but cannot snipe nearly as effectively.
...which speaks more for a blaster boat if you ask me
It has a 50% optimal bonus as well. It is just closer range than the corm.
It sucks in general, but sucks less with rails than blasters.
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Gierling
Gallente
Celestial Fleet
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:03:00 -
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It is relatively easy to get 400 + DPS out of a catalyst with blasters.
It is nothing to sneeze at
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Skrypt
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:38:00 -
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I am a great fan of blasters. The great joy in using them is two fold:
1) Blasters opperate at a range most weapons can't hit at.
2) The DPS of blasters is amazing when setup right.
Also, when you fly a blaster boat, there's a great increase in the intensity of battles. I love getting up close and personal and just tearing people up. It's purely adrenaline.
The downsides to blasters are cap issues, especially when being nossed and you have to be quick... Very quick. Range often can determine the outcome of a battle.
That being said, definitely go with blasters when you can.
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Clais Monaige
PPN United
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
It is relatively easy to get 400 + DPS out of a catalyst with blasters.
How? With T2 Ammo and Implants?
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Benglada
Finite Auxiliary
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Clais Monaige
Originally by: Gierling
It is relatively easy to get 400 + DPS out of a catalyst with blasters.
How? With T2 Ammo and Implants?
yea....and?
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Clais Monaige
PPN United
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Posted - 2006.09.05 22:13:00 -
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I guess that's why they are barely flown - to expensive for the high risk due to lack of any defense...or in other words: only for the brave 
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