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Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ginaz on 03/09/2006 18:58:57 How is it going? i'm quite curious.
i'm not an alt i'm, not a spy i'm just curious Video: 'Behind enemy lines' Queen of the Amazones |

Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 03/09/2006 19:34:05 TCF are still holding D7 as far as I know.
Greatly outnumbered but with the current lag and their improved tactics they happily kill D2 Dreads :)
If I got facts wrong here, bite me...
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:35:00 -
[3]
D7 was still in TCF hands yesterday, and looked very, VERY secure.
A friend in D2 told me that they had lost many dreads trying to take it.
Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected]) RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:47:00 -
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Things are -relatively- calm in Tribute right now. There hasn't been a really serious attempt from the coalition to kick us out of D7 since about one week before the dragon patch, so we roam in tribute and around. We've got quite a lot of nice fights away from POSes, and we're waiting to see what will happen first: another big tide of metal coming at us, or a diplomatic settlement...
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:53:00 -
[5]
Humm.....Throw a rock down south and you'll hit five D2 it seems these days.
*Shrug*
Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword Things are -relatively- calm in Tribute right now. There hasn't been a really serious attempt from the coalition to kick us out of D7 since about one week before the dragon patch, so we roam in tribute and around. We've got quite a lot of nice fights away from POSes, and we're waiting to see what will happen first: another big tide of metal coming at us, or a diplomatic settlement...
By diplomacy you mean you bring more mercenaries? And who would be so completely insane to assemble another 350+ fleet while the server is not running... "optimal"? Of course you¦d be quite happy and your pos would be #1 @ your killboard.
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Shadowsword Things are -relatively- calm in Tribute right now. There hasn't been a really serious attempt from the coalition to kick us out of D7 since about one week before the dragon patch, so we roam in tribute and around. We've got quite a lot of nice fights away from POSes, and we're waiting to see what will happen first: another big tide of metal coming at us, or a diplomatic settlement...
By diplomacy you mean you bring more mercenaries? And who would be so completely insane to assemble another 350+ fleet while the server is not running... "optimal"? Of course you¦d be quite happy and your pos would be #1 @ your killboard.
You are a tard. Your lame excuses etc you hint at in an initially friendly thread, makes your alliance look stupid, although not as stupid as it makes you look.
Leave the forums you suck at them.
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Yaay
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:03:00 -
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see, now i gotta go and look for that pic we took the other day sieging another pos. I believe it was 15 shuttles that fell outta that hauler we killed.... or was it 20.
but no, they don't try to lag the system at all.
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:03:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Nafri afk me ingame 
<3
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:03:00 -
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afk me ingame 
From Dusk till Dawn
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Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Edoo on 03/09/2006 20:05:40 lol
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
You are a tard. Your lame excuses etc you hint at in an initially friendly thread, makes your alliance look stupid, although not as stupid as it makes you look.
Leave the forums you suck at them.
Look mum, i yell at ppl on the internet. Why don¦t you do stuff no one cares about again?
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:14:00 -
[13]
Can't we all just e-get along?
Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected]) RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Shadowsword Things are -relatively- calm in Tribute right now. There hasn't been a really serious attempt from the coalition to kick us out of D7 since about one week before the dragon patch, so we roam in tribute and around. We've got quite a lot of nice fights away from POSes, and we're waiting to see what will happen first: another big tide of metal coming at us, or a diplomatic settlement...
By diplomacy you mean you bring more mercenaries? And who would be so completely insane to assemble another 350+ fleet while the server is not running... "optimal"? Of course you¦d be quite happy and your pos would be #1 @ your killboard.
Mercenaries? I just spoke with one of our diplomats and FC, and they comfirmed that we haven't contacted any mercenary entity. Where do you find your infos?
As for the rest, I won't answer to trolling.
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Humm.....Throw a rock down south and you'll hit five D2 it seems these days.
*Shrug*
so true, seems they would rather be anywhere other than fighting TCF
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Shadowsword Things are -relatively- calm in Tribute right now. There hasn't been a really serious attempt from the coalition to kick us out of D7 since about one week before the dragon patch, so we roam in tribute and around. We've got quite a lot of nice fights away from POSes, and we're waiting to see what will happen first: another big tide of metal coming at us, or a diplomatic settlement...
By diplomacy you mean you bring more mercenaries? And who would be so completely insane to assemble another 350+ fleet while the server is not running... "optimal"? Of course you¦d be quite happy and your pos would be #1 @ your killboard.
Mercenaries? I just spoke with one of our diplomats and FC, and they comfirmed that we haven't contacted any mercenary entity. Where do you find your infos?
As for the rest, I won't answer to trolling.
The second part is actually true, isnt it? Exactly this scneario has happened in the last large assault in d7-.
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FubarSF
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chewan Mesa Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 03/09/2006 19:34:05 TCF are still holding D7 as far as I know.
Greatly outnumbered but with the current lag and their improved tactics they happily kill D2 Dreads :)
If I got facts wrong here, bite me...
Yes they still controll d7, but that's it. If the servers could handle the load, their pos's would have been waisted 2 weeks ago.
Outnumbered my ass. They have the best and biggest ally in the game - LAG.
So how many shuttles can you fit in an indy ???
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:48:00 -
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not trying to detrect from TCF's pretty commendable defence of the D7 system. But Lag probably as much if not more then their tactics has been responsible for the such high losses by the offensive forces.
& with the gate queue system supposedly (as i understand it) making the moving of the huge numbers of ships into 1 system needed almost impossible (correct me if im wrong or misunderstand it). Coupled with the server issues atm imo it isnt the most practicable plan to restart the assault. _______________________________________________ The above comments & views do not reflect the opinions of Cosmic Odyssey or Chorus of Dawn; just those of an enlightened member  |

Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ginaz on 03/09/2006 20:52:58 wtf some moderator might want to close this thread, some noobbody ran into it, having an IQ of 20 or less
i think i'll afk Nafri  Video: 'Behind enemy lines' Queen of the Amazones |

Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Edoo
You are a tard. Your lame excuses etc you hint at in an initially friendly thread, makes your alliance look stupid, although not as stupid as it makes you look.
Leave the forums you suck at them.
Look mum, i yell at ppl on the internet. Why don¦t you do stuff no one cares about again?
Look mom, i was dropped at birth, now i act tough on a computer game!
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche not trying to detrect from TCF's pretty commendable defence of the D7 system. But Lag probably as much if not more then their tactics has been responsible for the such high losses by the offensive forces.
& with the gate queue system supposedly (as i understand it) making the moving of the huge numbers of ships into 1 system needed almost impossible (correct me if im wrong or misunderstand it). Coupled with the server issues atm imo it isnt the most practicable plan to restart the assault.
Of course lag affected the outcome of the battles happening around a POS. Pretending otherwise would be stupid. But I don't know of anything TCF did to deliberately increase lag. Some of the things we do, like letting spare ships in space, do have the side effect of increasing lag a little, but that only that, a side effect.
And, the way I see it, TCF has the advantage of the defensor (POS), and Morsus has the advantage of massive help from it's allies. So the situation is pretty balanced, I think...
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:11:00 -
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so, in short, eve is totally broken right now and nobody wants to throw down the expensive stuff. ccp pls fix it!
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Kai Lae
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kai Lae on 03/09/2006 21:20:10
Originally by: Shadowsword
Of course lag affected the outcome of the battles happening around a POS. Pretending otherwise would be stupid. But I don't know of anything TCF did to deliberately increase lag. Some of the things we do, like letting spare ships in space, do have the side effect of increasing lag a little, but that only that, a side effect.
Since the only people who would actually believe this statement are morons, that must be who you take us for, morons. I'll be remembering this one.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:37:00 -
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You can remember, or misinterpret, whatever you like, it doesn't change facts.
The facts are that I'm in a better position than youself to know why we do this or that.
The facts are also that I consider myself a correct, decent player (in a moral as well as skilled sense). And most my corp-mates, if not all, feel the same. If TCF players were creating lag just to create lag, I'd be raising all hell for Colsup to get out of it, and knowing my corp, I wouldn't have a lot of pushing to do to get that. But I don't, because I know for a fact that we don't use exploits (okay, a few individuals might use them, but there's bad apples in every alliance, and they're certainly not representatives of our alliance).
I'll add that any use of exploits would be directly contrary of the reasons why TCF was created in the first place. (To make a name of ourselves and play the game at the highest levels)
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:42:00 -
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TCF having 100 people in gang and maybe 50 to 100 spare ship dispersed over our 17 PoS sure create all the lag, your 350+ people blob did not create ANY lag. Stop being crybabies, no matter what 450+ people in a system fighting there's going to be crippling lag, you chose to fight knowing the risk, you lost, get over it.
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:51:00 -
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kai lae, before talking, you should take part to the battle. on the battle field, at least, figther have respect for figther. peopple like you that try to use bad propagenda aren t figther. you are too coward for this. as well as telling that we are filling indus with ton of shuttle should think twice before telling craps that nobody beside yourself beleive.
anyway, i want to thanks all mm, guard, razor and D2 pilot that are figthing in a great mood and respect. we salute you.
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ZePequerio
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: FubarSF Yes they still controll d7, but that's it. If the servers could handle the load, their pos's would have been waisted 2 weeks ago.
By Morsus ?    You mean like when you put a TCF POS in reinforced and not even trying to finish it the following day ? 
Originally by: Kai Lae Edited by: Kai Lae on 03/09/2006 21:20:10
Originally by: Shadowsword
Of course lag affected the outcome of the battles happening around a POS. Pretending otherwise would be stupid. But I don't know of anything TCF did to deliberately increase lag. Some of the things we do, like letting spare ships in space, do have the side effect of increasing lag a little, but that only that, a side effect.
Since the only people who would actually believe this statement are morons, that must be who you take us for, morons. I'll be remembering this one.
Those who believe that we intentionnaly increase lag are the realest morons We really want to fight but apparently morsus prefer to take down all crokite roids 
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Don ZOLA on 03/09/2006 22:39:40
Originally by: ZePequerio
Originally by: FubarSF Yes they still controll d7, but that's it. If the servers could handle the load, their pos's would have been waisted 2 weeks ago.
By Morsus ?    You mean like when you put a TCF POS in reinforced and not even trying to finish it the following day ? 
Originally by: Kai Lae Edited by: Kai Lae on 03/09/2006 21:20:10
Originally by: Shadowsword
Of course lag affected the outcome of the battles happening around a POS. Pretending otherwise would be stupid. But I don't know of anything TCF did to deliberately increase lag. Some of the things we do, like letting spare ships in space, do have the side effect of increasing lag a little, but that only that, a side effect.
Since the only people who would actually believe this statement are morons, that must be who you take us for, morons. I'll be remembering this one.
Those who believe that we intentionnaly increase lag are the realest morons We really want to fight but apparently morsus prefer to take down all crokite roids 
y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
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feedbegin
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:44:00 -
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Did you ever go to see one of our poses ,i dont think so and if we throw shuttle in less than one hour a gm is moving to see if it is true so shut up .
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: feedbegin Did you ever go to see one of our poses ,i dont think so and if we throw shuttle in less than one hour a gm is moving to see if it is true so shut up .
there r screenshots, and about lag , we all know that pos shoots no matter of lag, and ur pos is ur no1 killer (rofl ?) so plz dont spread bs that u dont have interest to make lag, when its ur main interest...
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Chee
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: ZePequerio We really want to fight but apparently morsus prefer to take down all crokite roids 
We can dedicate a couple of pages slinging mud at each other about that if you like 
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Poolpy
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: feedbegin Did you ever go to see one of our poses ,i dont think so and if we throw shuttle in less than one hour a gm is moving to see if it is true so shut up .
there r screenshots, and about lag , we all know that pos shoots no matter of lag, and ur pos is ur no1 killer (rofl ?) so plz dont spread bs that u dont have interest to make lag, when its ur main interest...
Guess what, there are even screenshot of a MM pos filled with secure can...
Anyway, you can think whatever you want, i guess that you have already a opinion about tcf (as ebil lag xploiter).
i dont have to think much bout that, facts r more then clear...
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Archonon
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:29:00 -
[33]
Originally by: NOObbody
By diplomacy you mean you bring more mercenaries? And who would be so completely insane to assemble another 350+ fleet while the server is not running... "optimal"? Of course you¦d be quite happy and your pos would be #1 @ your killboard.
Allways entertaining to see ur ignorance and what sort of lie u're able to believe. ** News ** Our scientists discovered all secrets about the entity called "LAG" and now we're building "the lag buble" soon fitted on our interdictors. Fear us.
Oh i don't know TFC, "show info" is ur friend. _______________________
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:44:00 -
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instead of talking on the forum, come and figth us. don t stay in your station, docked all the day , crying for your lost system.
come on, and figth us ! we want to figth , but you are too affraid for this it s a simple fact.
little grunt |

Sin Angel
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:47:00 -
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I cant talk for my alliance but i will be there to fight once the server is more stable for sure.
you want to fight? well ill wait untill the indies you have been filling with shuttles issue is resolved either way to place judgement there, i miss the days before pos warfare when the skill was in fighting not lagging.
-Sin
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quellious
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:01:00 -
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Hi guys,
So, looks like it's the new 'flame me' thread ...
However, current situation involve mostly TCF versus Morsus Mihi (D2 please correct me if you feel that you are actively fighting in Tribute atm).
Concerning Morsus Mihi vs TCF, there was some POS war and TCF kepts it's new station :) We could argue a loooong time about why, how, is it fair or not ... Concerning potential intentionnal lag, i'm sure that GM did/will handle that untill fights are fair. (But none will ever know what actions were taken)
Comming back to current situation, i'd just had : Thx for the fun. We came for that, and i personnaly had some nice fun. - > Order Falcon & Pilgrim > Colsup |

Chee
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:08:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Axia Firehead instead of talking on the forum, come and figth us. don t stay in your station, docked all the day , crying for your lost system.
come on, and figth us ! we want to figth , but you are too affraid for this it s a simple fact.
a 40 TCF fleet logged off in C2X before the weekend, after not wanting to fight a 40 morsus gang next door.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dragerest on 04/09/2006 00:14:24 lag for the lose
lagged out for 10-20mins.. hope the next patch fixes something yeah right. lag was sooo bad. and there was less than 200people in system. awesome ________________________________________________________ nerf WCS |

Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 04/09/2006 00:14:24 lag for the lose
lagged out for 10-20mins.. hope the next patch fixes something yeah right. lag was sooo bad. and there was less than 200people in system. awesome
Over 220 in local, but yeah 100 people fighting is enough to cause serious lag :(
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Goobler
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Axia Firehead instead of talking on the forum, come and figth us. don t stay in your station, docked all the day , crying for your lost system.
come on, and figth us ! we want to figth , but you are too affraid for this it s a simple fact.
Last i heard is that tcf gangs keep logging off and avoiding fight. as someone here already said. you wont get a fight if you are not logged in. simple as that. most of north will problably know you as loggers always...have fun. |

Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:27:00 -
[41]
sorry i only saw 194, but i walked away after 5mins and ate supper and watched tv. ________________________________________________________ nerf WCS |

Khayman33
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Khayman33 on 04/09/2006 01:26:20 Edited by: Khayman33 on 04/09/2006 01:25:25
Originally by: Chee
Originally by: Axia Firehead instead of talking on the forum, come and figth us. don t stay in your station, docked all the day , crying for your lost system.
come on, and figth us ! we want to figth , but you are too affraid for this it s a simple fact.
a 40 TCF fleet logged off in C2X before the weekend, after not wanting to fight a 40 morsus gang next door.
Remember the 10/0 u take in your face in D7- few day while you outnumbered us near 2v1 in Bs's numbers . You speak too much mate , too much... I think you forgot some decisif factor like bubulle need to jump in etc...
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.04 03:16:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 03/09/2006 20:05:40 lol
get yourself atleast a good looking helmet.
you havent learnt from your former inability regarding forums and ingame concerning your former history (PA). --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |

Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.04 03:19:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: feedbegin Did you ever go to see one of our poses ,i dont think so and if we throw shuttle in less than one hour a gm is moving to see if it is true so shut up .
there r screenshots, and about lag , we all know that pos shoots no matter of lag, and ur pos is ur no1 killer (rofl ?) so plz dont spread bs that u dont have interest to make lag, when its ur main interest...
thats why eve sucks and thats why RA sucks and all their methods and sadly TCF arent anything better than that, though they are very experienced combat pilots, but they "exploit" weaknesses in the game like G did in its very early times of existance. --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |

Winter QC
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Posted - 2006.09.04 03:27:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:34:29 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:33:24 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:30:16
Originally by: Don ZOLA
y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
English version will follow. RIGHT NOW!1!11!!1 OMG WTF LOL TAHTS JUST PLANE SILY!!!1111 OMG IF LAG SI DA ONLEY REASON WE MANAEGD 2 CONTINUA TEH WAR UNTIL NOW HOW COMA M DIDNT KIK OUR AS3S WH3N WA FIRST W3NT IN THERE?!!!?!! OMG WTF LOL Y DID THEY NED 2 CAL D2 2 LEND TH3M A HAND??!!!?!!! WTF I MEAN ACORDNG 2 U BORK3D GME M3CHANIS R DA ONLEY R3ASON WERA STIL THERA!11!1! OMG WTF AND WA AL KNOW HOW KNOWLEDGAABLE U R ABOUT TEH SITUATION TH3RE!!!1!!!! WTF LOL R BAD APL3S IN 3VERY ALIANCES AND I HIGHLEY DOUBT THEIR AC3PT3D IN TCF (SM3 FOR OUR ENEMEIS)!111! OMG TAHT SIMPLEY WUDNT FIT IN TCFS IEDALS AND SUCH TH3N!1!1!111 WTF LOL AGANE IF U RATH3R CRY ON A FORUM INSTEAD OF G3TNG OF UR ARSA AND FIGHT ITS FIEN BY MA !1!1!!1 LOL
Non-AOL Version Right. Now that's just plain silly. If lag is the only reason we managed to continue the "war" until now, how come MM didn't kick our asses when we first went in there? Why did they need to call D2 to lend them a hand? I mean, according to you, borked game mechanics are the only reason we're still there. And we all know how knowledgeable you are about the situation.
There are bad apples in every alliances, and I highly doubt they're "accepted" in TCF (Same for our ennemies). Tharporat simply wouldn't fit in TCF's ideals and such. If lag was intentionally created, many corporations would leave the alliance right away.
I'd rather lose a system/region than getting labeled as an exploiter. So are others. Believe it or not, there is no thread named "OMG GUSY LETZ USE BILLIONS O SHUTLEZ SO WE CAN LIEK OMGWPN LOLLOLOL" on our private forums.
Then again, if you'd rather cry on a forum instead of getting off your arse and fight, it's fine by me.
Cheers
EDIT: Kudos to AOLer Translator, that thing rocks.
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.04 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: INZi on 04/09/2006 04:01:07 are these the frenchians who snuck in behind FE's, d2's, ERA's, KAOS's, MM's etc. backs and took over some regions while tenal/venal was burning hot? the frenchians that whould be wtfpwnbarg'd asap?
just curiouse.
edit: ghetto style typos got typo'd
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.04 04:09:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:34:29 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:33:24 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:30:16
Originally by: Don ZOLA
y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
English version will follow. RIGHT NOW!1!11!!1 OMG WTF LOL TAHTS JUST PLANE SILY!!!1111 OMG IF LAG SI DA ONLEY REASON WE MANAEGD 2 CONTINUA TEH WAR UNTIL NOW HOW COMA M DIDNT KIK OUR AS3S WH3N WA FIRST W3NT IN THERE?!!!?!! OMG WTF LOL Y DID THEY NED 2 CAL D2 2 LEND TH3M A HAND??!!!?!!! WTF I MEAN ACORDNG 2 U BORK3D GME M3CHANIS R DA ONLEY R3ASON WERA STIL THERA!11!1! OMG WTF AND WA AL KNOW HOW KNOWLEDGAABLE U R ABOUT TEH SITUATION TH3RE!!!1!!!! WTF LOL R BAD APL3S IN 3VERY ALIANCES AND I HIGHLEY DOUBT THEIR AC3PT3D IN TCF (SM3 FOR OUR ENEMEIS)!111! OMG TAHT SIMPLEY WUDNT FIT IN TCFS IEDALS AND SUCH TH3N!1!1!111 WTF LOL AGANE IF U RATH3R CRY ON A FORUM INSTEAD OF G3TNG OF UR ARSA AND FIGHT ITS FIEN BY MA !1!1!!1 LOL
Non-AOL Version Right. Now that's just plain silly. If lag is the only reason we managed to continue the "war" until now, how come MM didn't kick our asses when we first went in there? Why did they need to call D2 to lend them a hand? I mean, according to you, borked game mechanics are the only reason we're still there. And we all know how knowledgeable you are about the situation.
There are bad apples in every alliances, and I highly doubt they're "accepted" in TCF (Same for our ennemies). Tharporat simply wouldn't fit in TCF's ideals and such. If lag was intentionally created, many corporations would leave the alliance right away.
I'd rather lose a system/region than getting labeled as an exploiter. So are others. Believe it or not, there is no thread named "OMG GUSY LETZ USE BILLIONS O SHUTLEZ SO WE CAN LIEK OMGWPN LOLLOLOL" on our private forums.
Then again, if you'd rather cry on a forum instead of getting off your arse and fight, it's fine by me.
Cheers
EDIT: Kudos to AOLer Translator, that thing rocks.
u are posting under an alts synonym. u are trying to be intelligent. yet, you arent intelligent enough to use ur main and are infact ridiculing ur own alliance (i hope TCF that it isnt one of ur own alts).
erm....
Amusing.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.04 04:10:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 04/09/2006 04:11:02
Originally by: INZi Edited by: INZi on 04/09/2006 04:01:07 are these the frenchians who snuck in behind FE's, d2's, ERA's, KAOS's, MM's etc. backs and took over some regions while tenal/venal was burning hot? the frenchians that whould be wtfpwnbarg'd asap?
just curiouse.
edit: ghetto style typos got typo'd
I wont stop drooling on you   
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.04 04:15:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 04/09/2006 04:11:02
Originally by: INZi Edited by: INZi on 04/09/2006 04:01:07 are these the frenchians who snuck in behind FE's, d2's, ERA's, KAOS's, MM's etc. backs and took over some regions while tenal/venal was burning hot? the frenchians that whould be wtfpwnbarg'd asap?
just curiouse.
edit: ghetto style typos got typo'd
I wont stop drooling on you   
But yes, you are right.
drool is allways welcome. makes me skin shiny.
ty for the reply
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.04 04:17:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 04/09/2006 04:16:48 Now all u idiots see why infact Sebiestor Females pwn everything in terms of beauty and witness ^^ --------------------------------
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.04 05:20:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:34:29 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:33:24 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 03:30:16
Originally by: Don ZOLA
y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
English version will follow. RIGHT NOW!1!11!!1 OMG WTF LOL TAHTS JUST PLANE SILY!!!1111 OMG IF LAG SI DA ONLEY REASON WE MANAEGD 2 CONTINUA TEH WAR UNTIL NOW HOW COMA M DIDNT KIK OUR AS3S WH3N WA FIRST W3NT IN THERE?!!!?!! OMG WTF LOL Y DID THEY NED 2 CAL D2 2 LEND TH3M A HAND??!!!?!!! WTF I MEAN ACORDNG 2 U BORK3D GME M3CHANIS R DA ONLEY R3ASON WERA STIL THERA!11!1! OMG WTF AND WA AL KNOW HOW KNOWLEDGAABLE U R ABOUT TEH SITUATION TH3RE!!!1!!!! WTF LOL R BAD APL3S IN 3VERY ALIANCES AND I HIGHLEY DOUBT THEIR AC3PT3D IN TCF (SM3 FOR OUR ENEMEIS)!111! OMG TAHT SIMPLEY WUDNT FIT IN TCFS IEDALS AND SUCH TH3N!1!1!111 WTF LOL AGANE IF U RATH3R CRY ON A FORUM INSTEAD OF G3TNG OF UR ARSA AND FIGHT ITS FIEN BY MA !1!1!!1 LOL
Non-AOL Version Right. Now that's just plain silly. If lag is the only reason we managed to continue the "war" until now, how come MM didn't kick our asses when we first went in there? Why did they need to call D2 to lend them a hand? I mean, according to you, borked game mechanics are the only reason we're still there. And we all know how knowledgeable you are about the situation.
There are bad apples in every alliances, and I highly doubt they're "accepted" in TCF (Same for our ennemies). Tharporat simply wouldn't fit in TCF's ideals and such. If lag was intentionally created, many corporations would leave the alliance right away.
I'd rather lose a system/region than getting labeled as an exploiter. So are others. Believe it or not, there is no thread named "OMG GUSY LETZ USE BILLIONS O SHUTLEZ SO WE CAN LIEK OMGWPN LOLLOLOL" on our private forums.
Then again, if you'd rather cry on a forum instead of getting off your arse and fight, it's fine by me.
Cheers
EDIT: Kudos to AOLer Translator, that thing rocks.
u would be surprised if u knew how "knowledgable" i am. there r no lag issues at tcf poses, iraq is free.
if ur corps would leave alliance for someone creating lag, u would already be disbanded ^^
u would at least look smarter if u had stay silent. and tbh u just labeled urself as an idiot, luckily for u , u didnt had balls to post with main.
and i do get fights on daily basis, so no worries bout me go deploy some more er shutles ? :D
Woodie come piracy, theres no other choice for ya :P
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 05:45:00 -
[52]
D7 has turned into a boring, frustrating pos war. There's some skirmishing in the pipe but mainly it's a stalemate. We've brought massive numbers in the recent past on the pos in D7 and I'm sure we will again. But mainly it's a pain in the ass.
As far as I can tell we're all confident that we're going to kick TCF's butt out of D7. Just a matter of when.
This is my personal opinion. TCF has conducted themselves well but I wouldn't say with any particular genius and no one's quaking on their boots about them. It's mainly the horrific lag when we try to siege their pos. You bring enough dreads to hurt the pos and they take so long to load up and that they're already taking hits before their backup can come and bail them out. Anyway that's how I see it.
No disrespect to TCF. I've neither seen or heard anything bad or reprehensible from TCF pilots. But the POS situation is far from perfect as has been noted several times on these forums.
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 06:08:00 -
[53]
Wow nothing new....rumor,flamming and insult...the most powerfull weapons in Eve online was the official Forum of the game and their flammer...not the Titan
You think we exploit the Lag?Then I INVITE ALL GM to come in D7 an investigate all our Pos and write a public message here to say to all conspirator if its true about that and if its true ((i gonna be surprise myself)), then I gonna blow up all the ((mysterious hidden )) shuttle myself But of what i have see, all our evil shuttle atm in d7 are in the Corps hangard 
I'm very boring about this escuse of The North Coalition, damn if you want to destroy us you have a lots of strategic tactic you can make...but you decide to make the same tactic all the time and blame us and CCp about your own defeat. For my case this Lag escuse is just a no sense and its just a purpose to make flamme here because you have nothing constructive to say about this campaign flammer peoples, **** get a life! Come figth us and rethink your offensive, we want challenge We want figth the great Morsus, an alliance I always respect for their good pvp warrior! Come to d7 and figth!
To answer to the people who say that ours Pos kill much more that the TCF fleets dont upset me, but its a sad news for you.Because its a much shame if a Pos kill you better than us, not the inverse !! Or its an another escuse again to justified why TCF repel your force out of D7, Mister flammer?
Anyways...I hate Pos war me too! I understand you are boring of this siege, but in War it can take 1 minute or 10 year to win a battle...we must accept the fact thats it gonna be long and we must all stop to limited us about the Damn Pos/lag effect...use your brain more than ever and all this war can be different! Flame here or petition day and hour To CCp will not change nothing for a while anyways.
Its just the action on the field by the pilots and the tactic of the FC that gonna make the difference and its true for all battle...the Lag was a negative factor for all of us like weather in a IRL frontline!We must all adapt like all the civilisation on Earth have done in the past....to conclued all of this, stop have escuse and *****ing , plz come make GOOD pvp to us because we are the invader and you the defender...not the inverse huh?...THEN PROVE YOUR MIGTH PEOPLE OF MORSUS!
See ya in space people of the North Coalition!
And dont give up TCF !!! YARRRRRRRRRRR!
TCF, the first alliance in Eve online to win mysteriously all its battles by staying docking in NPC stations (; |

nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 06:54:00 -
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Edited by: nico wurz250 on 04/09/2006 06:54:28
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Humm.....Throw a rock down south and you'll hit five D2 it seems these days.
*Shrug*
The Goons seems to be to mutch boring, maybe there is a corp witch is fighting?  .
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 07:12:00 -
[55]
Edited by: nico wurz250 on 04/09/2006 07:13:53
Originally by: Liet Traep D7 has turned into a boring, frustrating pos war. There's some skirmishing in the pipe but mainly it's a stalemate. We've brought massive numbers in the recent past on the pos in D7 and I'm sure we will again. But mainly it's a pain in the ass.
Here you have the answer? Who will turn its ally into a boring "isk sink" for CCP, without fun? .
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 07:47:00 -
[56]
Originally by: nico wurz250 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 04/09/2006 07:13:53
Originally by: Liet Traep D7 has turned into a boring, frustrating pos war. There's some skirmishing in the pipe but mainly it's a stalemate. We've brought massive numbers in the recent past on the pos in D7 and I'm sure we will again. But mainly it's a pain in the ass.
Here you have the answer? Who will turn its ally into a boring "isk sink" for CCP, without fun?
I wish i had the answer. I wish there was a way to make sieging a pos fun. I can't figure out a way to make it fun and fair. So i'll just nuddle along as best i can.
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 08:15:00 -
[57]
maybe you are just unable to do it. personnaly, i know a way to "kick" us out of tribute. but guys, don t forget. all wars are bloody, all wars cost a lot. and it s seem that you don t want to do the war, as you aren t ready to put isk and blood in it. too sad. in fact, we win before the attack. it s easy to know who win a war when the "ennemis" don t want to figth.
about your comment on the shuttle. i will advise you one thing. shut your mouth, because GM didn t said anything to us about those mistery shuttle or so, and, as you know, you called them often. your comment is harrassement. but, we don t mind, because we know it s lies. you are just able to lie and cry. your name shouldn t be morsus mihi , but baby crying.. hopefully, some of your guys have the figthing spirit , and are respectfull. we thanks them for this. for the others, you , flamers.. go in hell!
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 08:34:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Don ZOLA y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
Hundreds of shuttles...
There is one screen in circulation that show maybe 40 shuttles in the overview, said screen is about one month old, and that's enough for you to say we have "hundreds of shuttles" in our poses... 
About industrials full of shuttles, lol. A packaged shuttle takes 500m3. An iteron 3 with standard expanders must have around 13-14k m3, at most. That makes, say, 25 shuttles. Great, 25 item IDs in the database, wow, that must generate a lot of lag. My armageddon has 7 gleam lenses, 7 auroras, 21 T1 lenses, and sometimes 10+ items coming from loot. 45+ items ID in the database. Not counting drones... OMG, I must be one ebil exploit user !
You say you're well informed, but the nonsense you're writing tend to prove your sources begin and end with what some coalition members want everyone to think.
"but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours..."
And Tundragon wouldn't? Are you so leet that you'd be able to take on the coalition and and wrestle a region out of it's control? Next time you'll say that the sky is blue.
Same thing for the POS stuff: extended fights aournd a POS tend to make the pos appear in a lot of killmails. Why does that surprise you?
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:19:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Shadowsword
Hundreds of shuttles...
There is one screen in circulation that show maybe 40 shuttles in the overview, said screen is about one month old, and that's enough for you to say we have "hundreds of shuttles" in our poses... 
D2 did the same thing when they fought goonfleet in Cloud Ring, claiming that the 2-3 goon pilots they popped with a dozen bookmarks in their holds was proof positive that all of GF was copying BM's just to lag out the system. And I think instead of the shuttle excuse that they are using against you, they instead claimed that the dozen or so cans in the goon POS used to distribute ammo was really a sinister plot to crash the node.
Everyone knows that lag is the deciding factor in POS battles. But for some reason many D2 pilots feel compelled to blame it on supposed misdeeds by their opponents rather then CCP failing to anciptate and react to developing playstyle.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:26:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Happydayz
Everyone knows that lag is the deciding factor in POS battles. But for some reason many D2 pilots feel compelled to blame it on supposed misdeeds by their opponents rather then CCP failing to anciptate and react to developing playstyle.
To me, the fact that we're even suspecting it is more or less proof. Myself and the way I like to play this game. If the situation is laggy I try to minimize lag for the system. But with goons and TCF these issues crop up the exact opposite way. When the lag gets bad, that's when they have their huge logistical issues and need to copy bm's and plant shuttles. If they had any decency they would do the opposite and make sure none of that **** happens when the server is acting up. Like the rest of us do. Except LV then too I guess.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:29:00 -
[61]
Originally by: DeadProphet
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Humm.....Throw a rock down south and you'll hit five D2 it seems these days.
*Shrug*
so true, seems they would rather be anywhere other than fighting TCF
They also wander in the wrong areas and get anhilated 
Ouch at the dread losses , tbh LAG Monster should be stoned to death  "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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DrRockIT
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:48:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
They also wander in the wrong areas and get anhilated 
Oh no, we lost some ships, while killing others....
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leefdorp
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:58:00 -
[63]
i think we should use cov ops for our lags tactics i dont like the screen shoot on the forum 
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Poolpy
dev zero
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Posted - 2006.09.04 10:08:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Poolpy on 04/09/2006 10:07:38
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 04/09/2006 09:26:44 If the situation is laggy I try to minimize lag for the system. But with goons and TCF these issues crop up the exact opposite way. When the lag gets bad, that's when they have their huge logistical issues and need to copy bm's and plant shuttles. If they had any decency they would do the opposite and make sure none of that **** happens when the server is acting up. Like the rest of us do. Except LV then too I guess.
Theorem 1 of POS warfare
Everytime there is a stalemate, one of the 2 side will allways use these kind of accusation to make the other side appear bad and gain sympathy, instead of blaming themself...
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.04 10:24:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Fred0
If the situation is laggy I try to minimize lag for the system. But with goons and TCF these issues crop up the exact opposite way. When the lag gets bad, that's when they have their huge logistical issues and need to copy bm's and plant shuttles.
Popping 2-3 ships with BM's in them out of literally thousands destroyed? Seeing a dozen or so shuttles at a POS and claiming they are trying to lag out a system?
Look, POS warfare sucks. You know this, I know this, everyone knows this. But when you start grasping for straws like this it looks a little silly.
Quote: If they had any decency they would do the opposite and make sure none of that **** happens when the server is acting up. Like the rest of us do. Except LV then too I guess.

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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 10:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Poolpy Edited by: Poolpy on 04/09/2006 10:07:38
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 04/09/2006 09:26:44 If the situation is laggy I try to minimize lag for the system. But with goons and TCF these issues crop up the exact opposite way. When the lag gets bad, that's when they have their huge logistical issues and need to copy bm's and plant shuttles. If they had any decency they would do the opposite and make sure none of that **** happens when the server is acting up. Like the rest of us do. Except LV then too I guess.
Theorem 1 of POS warfare
Everytime there is a stalemate, one of the 2 side will allways use these kind of accusation to make the other side appear bad and gain sympathy, instead of blaming themself...
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.04 10:33:00 -
[67]
Originally by: NOObbody
But what are we to blame for? As we have seen, 300 ships are not enough to down a defended pos these days. So there was no problem with insufficient will and participation.
Can't really blame anyone. Game mechanics are broke.
Out of curiosity, how many defenders were there?
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:00:00 -
[68]
85 to 90.
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:06:00 -
[69]
and they blame lag because they make their BS fleet warp in at close range of a large pos fitted for maximum dammage ... any decent fleet commander will never do this , but, they did , and then, petition to be reimbursed and then blame us for lag.. how funny..
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:27:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Axia Firehead Edited by: Axia Firehead on 04/09/2006 11:08:29 and they blame lag because they make their BS fleet warp in at close range of a large pos fitted for maximum dammage ... any decent fleet commander will never do this , but, they did , and then, petition to be reimbursed and then blame us for lag.. how funny..
on other side, i would like to say that it s not TCF vs D2 , but TCF vs morsus mihi, with the help of razor, guard, d2 , and friends.
Good fight last night, you had other ppl with u tho if I'm not mistaken - Toxin and Outbreak ?
I did laugh while our small gang were on the way tho, when ccp sent a msg to all players warning them about copying bms and lagging out the game, nothing to do with you tho I'm sure  Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |

WiseMagic
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:27:00 -
[71]
Edited by: WiseMagic on 04/09/2006 11:27:46 I`m shure this upcomming patch is gonna hurt TCF alot with no more mass bm`s copying ohh no maybe lag will be reduced now all CCP needs to do is sort out POS wars and TCF can`t hide behind ne mechanics/exploits "ohh did I say exploits" nemore 
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:29:00 -
[72]
toxin is outbreaks ticker luthien  ________
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:34:00 -
[73]
just lol tbh
Chestbeating by tcf is so uber. U r fighting next to a large control tower which is blue too u. So who can u lose a battle or even lose ships to such a perfect situation. U know where we are U know how many we are U know when we leave U know what we are going to do and u just kill a few dns, which have been replaced and gained sov over one system.
U killed a few dreads, but in fact if u would be better u would have killed way more, but ur not as good as u think u r.
So i suggest stay in d7, claim the vicotry and hope that there will be no big update that a server can handle a big gang next to a pos, cause this patch would mark the end of ur pressence in tribute.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:40:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Turkantho toxin is outbreaks ticker luthien 
ssshhh don't tell anyone  Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |

Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:51:00 -
[75]
Originally by: DrRockIT
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
They also wander in the wrong areas and get anhilated 
Oh no, we lost some ships, while killing others....
Its a tease not a smack Damn power outage made me miss that fight and i was stuck in agil  "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:07:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 just lol tbh
Chestbeating by tcf is so uber. U r fighting next to a large control tower which is blue too u. So who can u lose a battle or even lose ships to such a perfect situation. U know where we are U know how many we are U know when we leave U know what we are going to do and u just kill a few dns, which have been replaced and gained sov over one system.
U killed a few dreads, but in fact if u would be better u would have killed way more, but ur not as good as u think u r.
So i suggest stay in d7, claim the vicotry and hope that there will be no big update that a server can handle a big gang next to a pos, cause this patch would mark the end of ur pressence in tribute.
When we started a thread about the loss of a bunch of D2 capital ships (7 of them?) in the same day, you went all "omg chestbeating!". Now a neutral start a thread, we answer in a reasonable, factual way, and the thread hasn't even reached 10 posts that D2 start trolling it, with Morsus on it's heels. And the "omg chestbeating!" rethoric start again. Next time we know, you'll claim that the OP is one of our alts, too.
I feel relief thinking that you're only a noisy minority of the coalition, that your leadership is more realist than you, and that the others are actually decent players.
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Chee
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:27:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Shadowsword When we started a thread about the loss of a bunch of D2 capital ships (7 of them?) in the same day, you went all "omg chestbeating!". Now a neutral start a thread, we answer in a reasonable, factual way, and the thread hasn't even reached 10 posts that D2 start trolling it, with Morsus on it's heels. And the "omg chestbeating!" rethoric start again. Next time we know, you'll claim that the OP is one of our alts, too.
Shadowsword, TCF members in this thread are saying morsus mihi hides in station etc. Its the corp forum so we all sling mud at each other here. TCF included. So argueing about the argueing in useless and in itself flaming?
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Simon Illian
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:34:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Simon Illian on 04/09/2006 12:36:13 I like being call an epxloited without the knowlege of what really happen in a War, just what you have heard and what i call propaganda :p
You have accusated all of TCF to do ALL we can do to remove fun, aka crash the node or do too much lag :
=> Copying Bm (have you somes serious PROOF than 1 member in Tcf doing this on purpose ?)
=> Puting shuttle (an old,a month argument. It might seen laughable but at the start they goal is simple, when we loose ship we don't want to take another in a pod, so we have set shuttle for replacement .It's call a prepartion to pay the price of a war, lose of some ship. This story have been immediatly solve by a discussion to the gm and we have, ourself, put the shuttle in ship maintenance array for the pleasure of having lesss lag).
=> Putting Iteron III & a lot of ship in space in the force field ... hum ... what can i says, i don't see anything wrong here, they have their purpose for our logistic, we use them regulary, did we accusate you to cause lag in our system (D7-ZAC) cause you are in space with you'r ship ?
=> Fighting only at POS when we have a deathstar on our side : Yes when you attack some of our POS, but now since how many Week did it not occur ? and i've daily fight in Tribute, the majority of the fight don't appear near our POS..
To resume :
=> If you think some member of TCF Expl0it the games, just do a petition, don't appear to be like an idiot if you have no proof ... i've see a things, when party tend to lose a fight, they immediatly accuse the other side to exploit , maybe things doesn't go so well MM ?
=> Each War have a cost, are you ready to fight for things who have no value for D¦ (Dreadgnought) to remove us from D7-ZAC ?
=> Having the Control tower in the 1st place on our killboard is logic, a lot of fight have occur near the POS, and ... dunno what, the CT have fire in a lot of different target (cycling) and is involved in an enormous number of kill, somes kill alone, but it's far from the majority of the kill.
We have come to Tribute to learn, we learn. We have come to Tribute to have fun, we have a lot of fun. We have come to Tribute to test Conquerable Space, we have lot of fun.
Ps : in simple word, i'm here in tribute to have fun, we have a lot of godo fight, and stop posting riddiculous argument on the forum please.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:52:00 -
[79]
wow spinning.
Lets gooo
Ok capitals, who cares those things are there to get blown up, u blew some up, with the top killer "large mimatar control Tower" being the number one bs and support killer, imange the same situation and about 50 bs shooting ur 30 bs, and then figure if u would be able to shoot a dread? not to mention the ability of moving. Yes or no, i guess no cuase most of u r bs would be gone before the dn acticates his rep. But with having all the time in the world to activate ur modules its not that much of a good effort, to launch a spehre or two, wait till the guns do somethign and relay on ur control tower to deal with support. so killin dns whil those guys dont have any chance of gettin away, or the enmy to counter ur attack is not a tacital situation that u or ur fc has created being good. That situation has been occured cause the server can not handle anything except npcing and mining ops. So i suggest even if u have killed a few be happy with what u got, but always keep in mind that this is far from being over.
Iam not blaiming u, ur just the guys who are using everything on their way to gain something, but well if the eve server would habe been as good as the forum presence of bob, u would be somewhere else doing something that nobody would care about.
D2 has shown that if u want a pos war u can have one, so at the 5th is patch day, lets hope that most of the bugs disaappear and see how long u can stay where u r with a workin server.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:02:00 -
[80]
I'm still wondering why D¦ & friends still play eve, you seem to hate this game and all your opponents so much, it's incredible you still manage to log on with that much bitterness.
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Wulfgard
Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:09:00 -
[81]
Haha, strange irony to see our arch enemies (D2+ friends) having the same headache we have with POS assaults (vs RA & AAA).
Good luck to both sides 
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:17:00 -
[82]
things that drop out of tcf pos
all lies, huh?
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Simon Illian
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:30:00 -
[83]
maybe they were in ship maintenance array and don't cause lag ...
anyway all this event show a place for "smaller" alliance to gain control of it
in Cloud Ring, D¦ doesn't and can't offer to Goon XZH, they have send many ship, lose many and at the end they have win this war (they have hold CR before it was R I S E)
The Est/south coalitation have regain territory to RA cause they can't defend all their territory in front of supperior number, but they can't achieve the willpower, the organisation to defeat their last stronghold (it's my view from an external ppl, so i may be wrong, feel free to correct me)
We see the same situation in the north, where dedicaced ppl can counter the blobbing machine, if not, how in hell can a new alliance trying to live in 0.0 ???
=>In the North, the D¦ coalition, the the south Axiom/Ascn (and probably POS) are friend and defend together in Fade/Deklein/Branch/Tenal/Tribute/Vahle of the silent
=> In the south-west you have BoB with their good organisation, strong pvpers => In the est you have the coalition of -LV-, KOS ... (sorry to miss somes, it's not to be insulter, just you see my point) defend together
so whats left :
=> Curse : Station Npc, hard to control => Catch : The corridor, maybe the last region to change ownership, maybe Huzzard got not the best alliance together to blob, and the willpower to defend their territory ?(i really don't know, it's suppossiotion) => Pure Blind : not so good land => Syndicate : War zone since i'm born in this game and NPC station make hard to perfectly control the area. => Geminate & Providence : i don't know in detail this region but they seem to be no so attractive.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 13:41:00 -
[84]
Originally by: liquidism things that drop out of tcf pos
all lies, huh?
Show us a screen of your fleet attacking a PoS with hundreds of shuttle, not a screen when you are looting, if all these ships were in hangars bay / inside a few haulers it won't cause lag during the battle, if you have 15 sec freeze when you pop the stuff once you destroyed the pos, it's a non-issue
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:01:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Chee
Originally by: Shadowsword When we started a thread about the loss of a bunch of D2 capital ships (7 of them?) in the same day, you went all "omg chestbeating!". Now a neutral start a thread, we answer in a reasonable, factual way, and the thread hasn't even reached 10 posts that D2 start trolling it, with Morsus on it's heels. And the "omg chestbeating!" rethoric start again. Next time we know, you'll claim that the OP is one of our alts, too.
Shadowsword, TCF members in this thread are saying morsus mihi hides in station etc. Its the corp forum so we all sling mud at each other here. TCF included. So argueing about the argueing in useless and in itself flaming?
What did you expect? No one like being labeled an exploiter, espescially after all the efforts we put into the Tribute campaign, and some of our guys tend to get taken away when they counter-flame.
I'll propose you this: I'll do what I can to convince every TCF not to flame when posting here, and you stop your members from saying that we try to increase lag, or fight only around a POS, because you know as well as me that it's not the case.
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:16:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:26:35 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:22:35 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:21:48
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
u are posting under an alts synonym. u are trying to be intelligent. yet, you arent intelligent enough to use ur main and are infact ridiculing ur own alliance (i hope TCF that it isnt one of ur own alts).
erm....
Amusing.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
u would be surprised if u knew how "knowledgable" i am. there r no lag issues at tcf poses, iraq is free.
if ur corps would leave alliance for someone creating lag, u would already be disbanded ^^
u would at least look smarter if u had stay silent. and tbh u just labeled urself as an idiot, luckily for u , u didnt had balls to post with main.
The fact that both of you were unable to detect the irony/sarcasm in my last post saddens me. I mean, you're using big words like "knowledgeable" but still can't take a few more seconds to type "you" and "you're" so you actually sound somewhat intelligent (I know, old World of Warcraft habbits, eh?).
I mean, I'm getting called stupid and immature by someone that can't even make complete sentences and use words instead of lame abbreviations. A few errors is fine by me, but when u teyp liek tis, u sond liek a foool lolol. I'll take your so-called insults more seriously when you actually take the time to flame me/my alliance correctly. Until then, you're a fool.
As for me being an alt, how about you get off your lazy arses and do a show info on me before making pointless accusations? Maybe it'll save you a post or two. (Oh my gawd he's a week old, let's alert the intarweb, it's a mother$&%*@*T alt on a mother#&$*%@% MMORPG).
Shaming my alliance? I doubt it. See, I didn't make pointless accusations, didn't type like a 12 years old cybersexing on AIM and actually used paragraphs and grammar. The only somewhat "bad" thing I did was to mock both of your l33t typen skilz (and to be honest, I'm still laughing). I expressed my opinion on the matter in a civil way, for the most part.
Now, we can continue this pointless crap if you want or we can drop it. It's up to you guys. (Just to be sure you understand, I'll translate from english to 12 years old: Nwo, we can liek continu tihs pintless carp if u want LOLOL or we can liek dorp it........ itz up to U gusy!).
Much love, Winter
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:26:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:22:35 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:21:48
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
u are posting under an alts synonym. u are trying to be intelligent. yet, you arent intelligent enough to use ur main and are infact ridiculing ur own alliance (i hope TCF that it isnt one of ur own alts).
erm....
Amusing.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
u would be surprised if u knew how "knowledgable" i am. there r no lag issues at tcf poses, iraq is free.
if ur corps would leave alliance for someone creating lag, u would already be disbanded ^^
u would at least look smarter if u had stay silent. and tbh u just labeled urself as an idiot, luckily for u , u didnt had balls to post with main.
The fact that both of you were unable to detect the irony/sarcasm in my last post saddens me. I mean, you're using big words like "knowledgeable" but still can't take a few more seconds to type "you" and "you're" so you actually sound somewhat intelligent (I know, old World of Warcraft habbits, eh?).
I mean, I'm getting called stupid and immature by someone that can't even make complete sentences and use words instead of lame abbreviations. A few errors is fine by me, but when u teyp liek tis, u sond liek a foool lolol. I'll take your so-called insults more seriously when you actually take the time to flame me/my alliance correctly. Until then, you're a fool.
As for me being an alt, how about you get off your lazy arses and do a show info on me before making pointless accusations? Maybe it'll save you a post or two. (Oh my gawd he's a week old, let's alert the intarweb, it's a mother$&%*@*T alt on a mother#&$*%@% MMORPG).
Shaming my alliance? I doubt it. See, I didn't make pointless accusations, didn't type like a 12 years old cybersexing on AIM and actually used paragraphs and grammar. The only somewhat "bad" thing I did was to mock both of your l33t typen skilz (and to be honest, I'm still laughing).
Much love for the trolls, Winter
I can't understand a word you're Seine... Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |

Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:29:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:30:40

(Seine? Isn't that a river or something in France? I've never left America )
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:41:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 04/09/2006 14:42:27 Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 04/09/2006 14:42:11
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:30:40

(Seine? Isn't that a river or something in France? I've never left America )
Thank god someone spotted it, ffs you're not even French !!
Well done that man, have a cheese and onion baguette, on me.. Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |

Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:44:00 -
[90]
Well actually that was pretty well done.
/highfive
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Esaam DeVries
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:20:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Thank god someone spotted it, ffs you're not even French !!
Well done that man, have a cheese and onion baguette, on me..
I can explain why a French could have problems understanding this joke.
Seine is pronounced /sɛn/ in french so that's quite far from sayin' ;) And we don't have onion baguettes. If you can find any it would be in a English shop like Marks & Spencer.
ps : a rare video footage of Le TCF carrier. --
TRUST Shop : from T2 to Captital ship(yard)s. Shop smart, shop T-shop. |

Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:39:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Esaam DeVries
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Thank god someone spotted it, ffs you're not even French !!
Well done that man, have a cheese and onion baguette, on me..
I can explain why a French could have problems understanding this joke.
Seine is pronounced /sɛn/ in french so that's quite far from sayin' ;) And we don't have onion baguettes. If you can find any it would be in a English shop like Marks & Spencer.
ps : a rare video footage of Le TCF carrier.
i prefer this one:
TCF Tribute fortress
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:40:00 -
[93]
Why is even D2 trying to kick TCF out of Tribute already?
I hope it's not about the 'we only want blues around us' syndrome, because it sucks. It looks like the same **** when FoE was annihilated by G. We had good enemies nearbies, only a few jumps to travel to get a fight and it only turned into a 'yet another blue region'. I regret having taken part in that, now the north is incredibly dull.
Oh, and I miss G, much less smack on the forums back then.
____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships |

DANGEROUS
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:57:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Sorja Why is even D2 trying to kick TCF out of Tribute already?
I hope it's not about the 'we only want blues around us' syndrome, because it sucks. It looks like the same **** when FoE was annihilated by G. We had good enemies nearbies, only a few jumps to travel to get a fight and it only turned into a 'yet another blue region'. I regret having taken part in that, now the north is incredibly dull.
Oh, and I miss G, much less smack on the forums back then.
Here Here
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Shuriken Ertai
Gallente Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:04:00 -
[95]
We dont like em : /
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:12:00 -
[96]
nice carrier vid (:
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:26:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Doc Punkiller
i prefer this one:
TCF Tribute fortress
lmao  That one is so fitting.
As for D2, they fight us because they're buddies with Morsus, but they'd prefer to work out a NAP with us.
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DANGEROUS
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:49:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Doc Punkiller
i prefer this one:
TCF Tribute fortress
lmao  That one is so fitting.
As for D2, they fight us because they're buddies with Morsus, but they'd prefer to work out a NAP with us.
I am CERTAIN that we want to wipe u off the face of the north!!! Deffo not Nap u!!!!
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:53:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Doc Punkiller
i prefer this one:
TCF Tribute fortress
lmao  That one is so fitting.
As for D2, they fight us because they're buddies with Morsus, but they'd prefer to work out a NAP with us.
maybe in your dreams, but ingame situation is quite different
ohh, and I guess such posts are very bad for your diplomats and their work *gg*
From Dusk till Dawn
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:17:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Amerame on 04/09/2006 17:25:56
Originally by: Nafri
ohh, and I guess such posts are very bad for your diplomats and their work *gg*
Oh noz !
EDIT : D¦ doesn't want allies, they want pets, that will be their downfall ultimately. Your pets cannot defend themselves, they could not against Goon, they cannot against TCF, enjoy PoS warfare to its fullest, since D¦ has to defend 1/4 of eve by itself.
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:58:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 04/09/2006 17:25:56
Originally by: Nafri
ohh, and I guess such posts are very bad for your diplomats and their work *gg*
Oh noz !
EDIT : D¦ doesn't want allies, they want pets, that will be their downfall ultimately. Your pets cannot defend themselves, they could not against Goon, they cannot against TCF, enjoy PoS warfare to its fullest, since D¦ has to defend 1/4 of eve by itself.
D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers 
From Dusk till Dawn
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.09.04 18:33:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Sorja Why is even D2 trying to kick TCF out of Tribute already?
I hope it's not about the 'we only want blues around us' syndrome, because it sucks. It looks like the same **** when FoE was annihilated by G. We had good enemies nearbies, only a few jumps to travel to get a fight and it only turned into a 'yet another blue region'. I regret having taken part in that, now the north is incredibly dull.
Oh, and I miss G, much less smack on the forums back then.
Simply put, reds scare off carebears, carebears are money, and money is power. Having reds next door to fight is great for the PvPers, but it means the carebears won't come out and you won't collect the 500mil or so in tax money that day to build half of a Carrier. Ultimately such resources tend to be useful for major wars and region-conquering, though whether that's more enjoyable than next-door-neighbor PvPing is another argument entirely. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.04 18:35:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Sorja Why is even D2 trying to kick TCF out of Tribute already?
I hope it's not about the 'we only want blues around us' syndrome, because it sucks. It looks like the same **** when FoE was annihilated by G. We had good enemies nearbies, only a few jumps to travel to get a fight and it only turned into a 'yet another blue region'. I regret having taken part in that, now the north is incredibly dull.
Oh, and I miss G, much less smack on the forums back then.
Sorja. So you are suggesting we do not fight them since we can then keep reds close to us? 
If you fight you fight to win. Everything else is just lousy practice. But while you do that you hope that you will never run out of enemies. Like LV are now in Venal. What you are suggesting though has to be the biggest mental "knickers in a twist moment" I've ever seen on these forums. We should just send a fleet in to camp two hours a day?
If the north is dull it's because you are in the wrong system.
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Garek
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:40:00 -
[104]
Originally by: liquidism things that drop out of tcf pos
all lies, huh?
I just have to say one thing. As you can see this was in H-W at the start of our campaing. When we were setting everything up. I think Battles are going on in D7 or am I missing something :)
Please stop the post about TCF generating lag. This isn't helping anything.
Good luck and fly safe :)
Regards
Garek
Diplo
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:02:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Garek
Originally by: liquidism things that drop out of tcf pos
all lies, huh?
I just have to say one thing. As you can see this was in H-W at the start of our campaing. When we were setting everything up. I think Battles are going on in D7 or am I missing something :)
Please stop the post about TCF generating lag. This isn't helping anything.
Except that it seems you are generating lag.
Come on, don't bull**** us. Lag only works for your benefit when it's POS warfare. Maybe it's not doctrine, but it apparently is happening.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:06:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Kusotarre
Except that it seems you are generating lag.
Come on, don't bull**** us. Lag only works for your benefit when it's POS warfare. Maybe it's not doctrine, but it apparently is happening.
have you ever seen, or heard of a fight involving 450 people in the same system with no crippling lag in the last year ? or even, ever ? You're the ones bull****ting on how a dozen spare ship in a couple of PoS would be the cause of the lag. You know what ? yesterday 220 people in a system NOT A SINGLE TCF SPARE SHIP and ... it was very laggy, now imagine twice as many people ...
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:22:00 -
[107]
That's not a dozen.
It's more than a hundred.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:07:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Amerame on 04/09/2006 22:12:02 Edited by: Amerame on 04/09/2006 22:08:28
Originally by: Kusotarre That's not a dozen.
It's more than a hundred.
There were at most a dozen unoccupied ships in the pos fight were you lost dreadnoughts(feel free to check our fraps of the fights, they are publicly available), and since this screenshot has been taken after the pos has been destroyed, I bet the shuttle were inside hangar bay or inside haulers.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:28:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:26:35 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:22:35 Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 14:21:48
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
u are posting under an alts synonym. u are trying to be intelligent. yet, you arent intelligent enough to use ur main and are infact ridiculing ur own alliance (i hope TCF that it isnt one of ur own alts).
erm....
Amusing.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
u would be surprised if u knew how "knowledgable" i am. there r no lag issues at tcf poses, iraq is free.
if ur corps would leave alliance for someone creating lag, u would already be disbanded ^^
u would at least look smarter if u had stay silent. and tbh u just labeled urself as an idiot, luckily for u , u didnt had balls to post with main.
The fact that both of you were unable to detect the irony/sarcasm in my last post saddens me. I mean, you're using big words like "knowledgeable" but still can't take a few more seconds to type "you" and "you're" so you actually sound somewhat intelligent (I know, old World of Warcraft habbits, eh?).
I mean, I'm getting called stupid and immature by someone that can't even make complete sentences and use words instead of lame abbreviations. A few errors is fine by me, but when u teyp liek tis, u sond liek a foool lolol. I'll take your so-called insults more seriously when you actually take the time to flame me/my alliance correctly. Until then, you're a fool.
As for me being an alt, how about you get off your lazy arses and do a show info on me before making pointless accusations? Maybe it'll save you a post or two. (Oh my gawd he's a week old, let's alert the intarweb, it's a mother$&%*@*T alt on a mother#&$*%@% MMORPG).
Shaming my alliance? I doubt it. See, I didn't make pointless accusations, didn't type like a 12 years old cybersexing on AIM and actually used paragraphs and grammar. The only somewhat "bad" thing I did was to mock both of your l33t typen skilz (and to be honest, I'm still laughing). I expressed my opinion on the matter in a civil way, for the most part.
Now, we can continue this pointless crap if you want or we can drop it. It's up to you guys. (Just to be sure you understand, I'll translate from english to 12 years old: Nwo, we can liek continu tihs pintless carp if u want LOLOL or we can liek dorp it........ itz up to U gusy!).
Much love, Winter
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
and btw there r no infiedels in iraq - hint if u repeat it enough times it will look like truth ^^
TDG Recruitment |

Garek
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:31:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Kusotarre
Originally by: Garek
Originally by: liquidism things that drop out of tcf pos
all lies, huh?
I just have to say one thing. As you can see this was in H-W at the start of our campaing. When we were setting everything up. I think Battles are going on in D7 or am I missing something :)
Please stop the post about TCF generating lag. This isn't helping anything.
Except that it seems you are generating lag.
Come on, don't bull**** us. Lag only works for your benefit when it's POS warfare. Maybe it's not doctrine, but it apparently is happening.
As I said and will say again: Fightsare going on in D7 not in H-W. TCF posses don't have shuttles anymore like they needed at start of the campaign.
Please keep the topic to it's subject and let's be proactive to find solutions to any problems on each side instead of giving critics at everyone :) You hink this is possible? would be great if we all could get along ^^ 
Regards
Garek
--- Diplo
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:32:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Don ZOLA y u have hunderds of shuttles on pos for its defence, isnt that logical to everyone ?
get a grip u r still there cuz of game mechanics, u should say ty ccp and stfu. just dont get me wrong, i know there r some good fighters in tcf, but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours...
edit : spelling :/
"but still if it wasnt pos&lag warfare u would be wiped out of region in matter of hours..."
And Tundragon wouldn't? Are you so leet that you'd be able to take on the coalition and and wrestle a region out of it's control? Next time you'll say that the sky is blue.
Same thing for the POS stuff: extended fights aournd a POS tend to make the pos appear in a lot of killmails. Why does that surprise you?
we never had intension to claim any space, be sure that if we did we would control it. dunno why u try to twist my words, anyway u r failing at that too...
and about pos stuff - so much lag ur opponents cant shoot, even u cant shoot, but guess who can ? ^^ must be pos :P
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:02:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and btw there r no infiedels in iraq - hint if u repeat it enough times it will look like truth ^^
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:15:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Kusotarre
Except that it seems you are generating lag.
Come on, don't bull**** us. Lag only works for your benefit when it's POS warfare. Maybe it's not doctrine, but it apparently is happening.
you know that attacking a pos generate lag, and that you will be in a lag situation. don t blame other if you loose ship or battle because of this, because you are the one who attack us. we were able to take down 2 systems, and you aren t able to take back D7.. who is doing something wrong? the one who could do the things, or the one that try to get some shame escuse because they cannot? when we face a problem , we try to answert with a solution, we don t blame others about this. grow a bit, and try to use your brain on battle field instead of crying over the forum..
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Goobler
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:29:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Axia Firehead
Originally by: Kusotarre
Except that it seems you are generating lag.
Come on, don't bull**** us. Lag only works for your benefit when it's POS warfare. Maybe it's not doctrine, but it apparently is happening.
you know that attacking a pos generate lag, and that you will be in a lag situation. don t blame other if you loose ship or battle because of this, because you are the one who attack us. we were able to take down 2 systems, and you aren t able to take back D7.. who is doing something wrong? the one who could do the things, or the one that try to get some shame escuse because they cannot? when we face a problem , we try to answert with a solution, we don t blame others about this. grow a bit, and try to use your brain on battle field instead of crying over the forum..
umm..funny how you always say grow a pair but reality seems a bit different. First almost all post regarding this subject are coming from tcf and are,with few exceptions, pure flame.
Whenever you encounter a gang that is same size as yours you either - log off or loose. I saw that by looking at all involved kb and chatting with some of my friends from north and watching that kind of action live numerous times since almost 3 or 4 months now. I see a lot of tcf flaming and smacking here and am looking forward to joining an alliance i have friends in and that has or had /dunno/ emire war with you and seeing you smack some more.
And if i understood correctly, you are saying grow bals to people that went on to fight at your pos under this lag - thats a shame and pure smack. |

Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:14:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Axia Firehead on 05/09/2006 00:16:19 goobler, does i have to remind you that alt don t have to post here? if you want to post there, then, post with your main. and yes, i did some check.
security status : 0.0 standing : none.
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Sin Angel
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:44:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Sin Angel on 05/09/2006 00:45:59
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and btw there r no infiedels in iraq - hint if u repeat it enough times it will look like truth ^^
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
Meh i dont want to join flame fests but your flaming people for bad grammar and/or spelling is appauling, im dyslexic i have GREAT difficulty spelling properly this alone has taken me a long time to write with semi coherent spelling let alone my grammar.
An educated person would know that spelling and grammar abilities hold very little to do with inteligence, im about to finish my first of 2 degrees while being mce certified and looking to start cisco qualifactions but i cant spell for s**t, would you say im an idiot? would you say that im being lazy? id hope not.
Maybe you should concentrate more on the thread and what people write in their posts rather than pick at spelling and grammar this is not an english class its a forum for a game.
After this post i will go back to using "u" "r" "y" etc instead of full words because they help me to avoid having a huge headache worrying about what i type being of a reasonable standard by allowing me more time putting words in the right place instead of spelling everything perfectly.
-Sin
(sorry for going off topic people this is a pet hate of mine that many people seem to employ)
-Edit spelling (duh)
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:50:00 -
[117]
I think this has gone way past the op's intent. D7 is still in TCF's hands. The rest of Tribute is in the hands of Morsus Mihi and Guard. That should satisfy the OP's question and now this thread can be closed. It seems the longer this thread goes on it makes both sides look bad.
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:53:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Winter QC on 05/09/2006 00:54:21 Sin Angel: That's one of the "good" reasons to type like in such a way. My posts weren't meant to shame/insult dyslexics.
Cheers, Winter
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Quarantine
Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:57:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Nafri
D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers 
Uh? D2 tried to nap TCF months ago already, and they refused (or rather, didn't want to include MM/Guard in the deal). I'd be surprised if some D2 diplomat isn't still hammering the convo-NAP button right now. Oh, and wb Sorja.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 00:57:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/09/2006 00:57:57
Originally by: Liet Traep That should satisfy the OP's question and now this thread can be closed. It seems the longer this thread goes on it makes both sides look bad.
I reckon this is an interesting statement in this thread.. its only page 4 and already it seems both parties are having thoughts about the wisdom of it being continued.
Thankgod for the 'no alt posting' rule, now threads can come to a natural conclusion (if necessary) without having nameless retards fanning the flames pointlessly.
Sorry for going off topic....
Pls continue.. 
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.05 06:07:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Quarantine
Originally by: Nafri
D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers 
Uh? D2 tried to nap TCF months ago already, and they refused (or rather, didn't want to include MM/Guard in the deal). I'd be surprised if some D2 diplomat isn't still hammering the convo-NAP button right now. Oh, and wb Sorja.
That will surely spill Nafri's Tea pot 
You what are still friends with D2 then or is that over also ? "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.05 06:18:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Quarantine
Originally by: Nafri
D¦ has friends and your not one of them, so your red, and we also dont nap POS huggers 
Uh? D2 tried to nap TCF months ago already, and they refused (or rather, didn't want to include MM/Guard in the deal). I'd be surprised if some D2 diplomat isn't still hammering the convo-NAP button right now. Oh, and wb Sorja.
That will surely spill Nafri's Tea pot 
You what are still friends with D2 then or is that over also ?
Not really, Quarantine has no clue.
Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends.
So its not D¦ vs TCF, its basicly MM + friends vs TCF.
Anyway, last comment on this, for further questions, convo ingmae
From Dusk till Dawn
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:02:00 -
[123]
you smack them for hugging pos' yet you show up with a fleet about 3 times their size. Do you really think they would just warp to the gate to engage you with those odds?
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 08:47:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Nafri
Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums...
Like in this thread? Looking at the first page I see troll posts from 4 different D2/MM members before the first TCF start flaming back. The same trend can be seen in just about any thread where TCF is concerned.
You don't like smack? We have no interest in it, either, so if you keep your guys in check, you can be sure we'll reciprocate...
Originally by: Nafri
I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends.
So its not D¦ vs TCF, its basicly MM + friends vs TCF.
Anyway, last comment on this, for further questions, convo ingmae
That's right.
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Quarantine
Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.05 09:10:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Nafri
Not really, Quarantine has no clue.
Cmd Woodlouse refused their request for a NAP and since they smack us on forums I think that with friends is over... Basicly, we refused any talks with TCF about naps, it isnt our war, were just helping friends.
When TCF entered Venal, they asked for the nap and woody refused (several times I've heard). During the goon invasion in CR, when TCF started to attack MM/GUARD, you had people in your lead panic and try to nap them. Maybe not all of you were aware of it, like when trillian tried to sell us out to goons, but it definately happened.
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2006.09.05 10:30:00 -
[126]
Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes.
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ZePequerio
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:30:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Rimini Toranos Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes.
You must be kidding right ? I really hope that CCP will fix it so instead of killing 7 dread in one day it's gonna be 20...
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:33:00 -
[128]
Originally by: ZePequerio
Originally by: Rimini Toranos Well ... the thing is that if there were no lag issues the station in d7 would return to allied control in 20minutes + reinforced time + 20minutes.
You must be kidding right ? I really hope that CCP will fix it so instead of killing 7 dread in one day it's gonna be 20...
But you dont have that many dreads, we could destroy. Just fun... At least the frustration of not being able to control your ship and react on the situation will be gone.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:41:00 -
[129]
Sure, the most important thing in a fight is getting adrenaline out of it. Winning or losing is only secondary. And lag isn't really good for adrenaline. You might as well toss a dice to see if you're going to get out in one piece or in a station.
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Burner23
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:57:00 -
[130]
Tip off they day.
If TFC playes it right you will never ever get the system. TFC will pos spam the whole system, then make them all deadstar posses. D2 fleet will come in and try to shoot the posses, TFC will have bs's boosting the pos. You may manage to put it in reinforce mode, then TFC will carrier jump stront in and pos will be fixed. In the mean while you will have to suffer great loses on your dreads and bs's fleets. And in the end you will just quite doing it because why lose so much for something thats not worth it.
So just wait till devs fix the lag or what ever, and do some pew pew for fun.
RA did it others can do it to. with good timing a good team they will win.
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katz3
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:04:00 -
[131]
Quarantine is so cute. <3
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Miss Lilly
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:46:00 -
[132]
Yes,
The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience.
The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew.
And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time.
Was it worth it TCF?
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Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:04:00 -
[133]
/me shakes head
"Oh lord what did i do? Please forgive me!" Video: 'Behind enemy lines' Queen of the Amazones |

Karylia
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:11:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Miss Lilly
The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew.
Oh really ? You wanna talk about your small mining POS's around D7 ? :D |

Fornacis
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:22:00 -
[135]
Sorry, but from my observation ... the only thing controlling D7 is TCF's POS's. There maybe a dozen or so TCF online during my watch, and they are either docked or hiding in POS's.
The only fighting they want, is when we are assaulting a POS, and they have lag on their side.
Take this as trolling, mud slinging, talking ****, whatever....just giving my opinion and observation.
TCF WILL be removed.....and that is the bottom line.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:27:00 -
[136]
Yes, it was, and still is, worth it. The goal of this campaign isn't related to isks. It's not about just owning a conquerable, either, or we could have saved ourselves a lot of efforts and just built an outpost.
Because we hold on when everyone was thinking we'd be gone in a week, the community at large now see TCF as a signifiant power, with both the will and the pvp strength to do more than a few ganks here and there, not just some random npc station alliance, and that, is priceless, both for politics and for recruitment.
And I won't speak about "fun" or "experience", I think you got the idea already. :p
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Khayman33
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:30:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes,
The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience.
The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew.
And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time.
Was it worth it TCF?
You are only with half in the truth ,you don't have complete control of tribute , just H-W and where your gang moving like us :) And for the isks, it's sure it's not a peaceful time so we don t make lot of isks ( logic just a few :p ) and we don't have region to run for make it :)
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 14:57:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Fornacis Sorry, but from my observation ... the only thing controlling D7 is TCF's POS's. There maybe a dozen or so TCF online during my watch, and they are either docked or hiding in POS's.
The only fighting they want, is when we are assaulting a POS, and they have lag on their side.
Take this as trolling, mud slinging, talking ****, whatever....just giving my opinion and observation.
TCF WILL be removed.....and that is the bottom line.
fornacis , it s sure that you don t see us, as we don t see you. for this, you need to be active in pvp, and it s not your case. the last time you were involved in a kill was the 4 july... 2 month ago .. so, your "observation" don t mean a lot...
little grunt |

Gozmoth
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:02:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Miss Lilly Was it worth it TCF ?
Actually ? Yes. And not only it was worthy but we take great pleasure at it ! I hope that I will see soon a big confrontation between MM and TCF, man to man.
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Bloodst0ne
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:15:00 -
[140]
Glad to see this forum is heating up again..
On topic: Err.. umm.. Lag sucks.!
-blood
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:37:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes,
The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience.
The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew.
And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time.
Was it worth it TCF?
You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:50:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Miss Lilly Yes,
The war over Tribute is definitely MM vs TCF. Both have allies, with MM's allies being more numerous and active. The game mechanics have forced some delays to POS removal Op's, but that is only minor inconvenience.
The current situation is MM & allies controlling Tribute and Venal, making TCF having only occasional gang ops. There is no room for TCF make any isk nor enlargen their grasp, so it is just game of very enjoyable bigger and smaller gang/fleet ops of pew pew.
And during all this, billions of isk is being spent on ship replacements and POS fuels, all the time.
Was it worth it TCF?
You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not.
Stop barking plz. You too lost small POSes - how come you could let it happen O_O. And you only hold (not even control) D7 - H-W and IMK are still there (surprise!!! IMK is also Tribute!). So except for one system which you hold (yeah snipe em if they come with 1 ship, run if they bring more) you dont have any other input into it.
And btw: where are YOUR fleets when we come with equal forces? Ah logged off... sorry. So its either you outblob us or we outblob you and force you to log off.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:55:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Stop barking plz. You too lost small POSes - how come you could let it happen O_O. And you only hold (not even control) D7 - H-W and IMK are still there (surprise!!! IMK is also Tribute!). So except for one system which you hold (yeah snipe em if they come with 1 ship, run if they bring more) you dont have any other input into it.
And btw: where are YOUR fleets when we come with equal forces? Ah logged off... sorry. So its either you outblob us or we outblob you and force you to log off.
Yeah we lost a few small pos I don't claim otherwise, I do not claim that TCF control tribute 23/7 unlike you. If you controled tribute destroying small pos with strontium would never have happened. See fleet of 80 people hitting on a pos, that should be a golden opportunity for you to attack us ? or that large pos we destroyed in D7- with just battleship, where were your fleets ?
Fact is that no one control venal & tribute both are highly dangerous at the moment.
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quellious
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:58:00 -
[144]
Hi guys,
Accordings to my observations, Tribute is currently under TCF control. The fun thing is that MM are doing just what VC has done when BoB came in Fountain ... they hide just at the borderline between 0.0 and empire. They deployed a cct2 production line within 3 jumps from empire, and we already damaged some part of it without resistance.
As a remind D7 is still flagged with TCF sovereignty whereas our oponents sweared that they will remove us in next weeks ... trust who you want now :)
Fights in Tribute are almost over ...
- > Order Falcon & Pilgrim > Colsup |

Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:05:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Shadowsword Because we hold on when everyone was thinking we'd be gone in a week, the community at large now see TCF as a signifiant power, with both the will and the pvp strength to do more than a few ganks here and there, not just some random npc station alliance, and that, is priceless, both for politics and for recruitment.
And the prize for joker of the month goes to the above...
The community is not as stupid as you may think. The community is aware that the numbers are on our side but POS removal with the current state of the game is almost impossible. TCF are a power, yes but then so is every single alliance in the game is a power. But how much you have is the question.
You have D7, but does that concern any of the northern alliances? naaaa!! I come and go through D7 as I would normmally on most days. Who's living in your real home of H-PA? Mordus Angels I beleive, with almost no oppostiton. So where is your power? You have neither a secure home, base of operations, freedom of travel, numbers to expand your current holdings or in fact the real credibility to call your selves a power that should be considered significant. A threat.... ok yea i'll give you that, you do put it up sometimes but usually in smaller ships (NJ4 last night?) and leave the bigger ships with your polishing drones back in the hangar if there's a thought you may lose the fight.
Bottom line is do not kid yourselves, this is something that YOU do not control. Holding D7 is being controlled by CCP at the moment because of weaknesses in the game infrastructure that everyone is waiting to be fixed. When it is, your time will be done and you will be forcibly removed and personally I look forward to your complete and utter removal from the North. Go on and beat your chests a little more for a while longer, pat each other on the backs for a great 'victory' against the northern coalition and hug each other at night before you go to bed.
But bear in mind reality is just around the corner and it's going to be tearing a rather large chunk out of your rear as the folly of your actions and words bites back.... have fun for now, but time is aaaall it's taking and we have plenty of that in hand.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:13:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Amerame on 05/09/2006 16:12:48 If every single alliance in the game could pull a russian, there wouldn't be many alliance with 3+ stations in the game. Don't make it sound like it's easy, you still need to be able to deplay 20-50 large PoS, you need to have 100 people avaible 23/7 to defend pos. Fact is that to defend you need just 100 - 150 people in gang, and you can defend yourself against any number with those, afaik not THAT many alliance in the game can field a fleet of 100 ships by itself, MM can't, razor can't, in the northeast except D¦ and TCF no single alliance can field those numbers.
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Miss Lilly
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:16:00 -
[147]
Originally by: quellious Hi guys,
Accordings to my observations, Tribute is currently under TCF control. The fun thing is that MM are doing just what VC has done when BoB came in Fountain ... they hide just at the borderline between 0.0 and empire. They deployed a cct2 production line within 3 jumps from empire, and we already damaged some part of it without resistance.
As a remind D7 is still flagged with TCF sovereignty whereas our oponents sweared that they will remove us in next weeks ... trust who you want now :)
Fights in Tribute are almost over ...
Your observations are wrong.
Originally by: Amerame
You cannot use tribute more than we can, you control tribute, then how come we destroyed most of your small pos around ? where were your fleets to prevent us from destroying them ? I mean come on, I know it's just a few small poses, but you knew when they went out of reinforced and you did not even dared to form up to protect them. Why ? is it because you can't ask D¦ to lead your fleet to defend a small pos can you ? don't make it sound like MM has ANY significant military power, you do not.
Those small POS's we don't care about, we let you destroy. Why would it be anything bigger than that? Since when has military provess been measured by destroyed small POS's? Fact is that MM can still make isk in Tribute/Venal, you cannot.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:20:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Bloodst0ne Glad to see this forum is heating up again..
On topic: Err.. umm.. Lag sucks.!
-blood
Off topic , U SUCK :P
On Topic , if tribute stations are still under TCF control and not MM then TCF is currently holdign tribute and if MM are fightign then its a warzone but if MM are holdign staions then it is a contested area , so all the batterign about we wont u guys suck bla bla bla has realy no meaning the only meaning is the current status of the stations and the effect of the battels on who holds soverginty. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:34:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Miss Lilly
Those small POS's we don't care about, we let you destroy. Why would it be anything bigger than that? Since when has military provess been measured by destroyed small POS's? Fact is that MM can still make isk in Tribute/Venal, you cannot.
Yes TCF has not been able to make isk in venal in the last 5 months, and still can't. It's only in your dreams that the northern coalition can disrupt our grinding in venal, as for tribute go ahead and try to mine / rat, there are no TCF in Tribute.
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Vegas
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 16:49:00 -
[150]
1st of lets not forget there are 3 stations in Tribute. 1 under TCF control 2 under MM/Guard(allied) control.
This thread really has no meaning, TCF you can claim victory where you wish, you can scream on the forums all you like that you are killing our small POS's. You can even have the map changed to your sovreignity for i all care.
Fact is you want to live in the north and control 2 of your own outposts. As this conflict continues and your forum whoring grows there is less chance of you ever doing this.
The worst thing your alliance ever did was not attack Tribute whether you wanted to show the north you were a valid enemy/ally. Is was come to the forums with it all.
I for one hope and will never agree to a NAP with TCF, the longer the conflict continues the less distance i have to travel for pvp.
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Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned.
Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:19:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
*snip*-Tirg
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
i must admit this time u hit the nail, u have no idea how ubercool i am, and how lasy egocentric i am. im 4tw and everyone knows it :D
u r also right i dont wanna spend even a milisecoond to write everything properly, whichever word i can use shortcut for, i use it. ppl who should have my respect have it, and remember respect is earned not just given.
maybe if i cared for ur opinion i would write grammaticly/spelling correct posts to be sure u comprehended correct (thou i dont think anyone has problems with understanding what i write anyway), but all u can do is obviously just pointing at my spelling so i have no intension to change the same.
uneducated ? whatever rocks ur boat, im pretty sure im much more educated then u , but its completely irrelevant anyway
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ZePequerio
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 17:30:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Miss Lilly
Those small POS's we don't care about, we let you destroy. Why would it be anything bigger than that? Since when has military provess been measured by destroyed small POS's? Fact is that MM can still make isk in Tribute/Venal, you cannot.
Quite amusing to read that while making money  We have enough ressources to keep fighting in tribute for a while 
Originally by: Vegas
I for one hope and will never agree to a NAP with TCF, the longer the conflict continues the less distance i have to travel for pvp.
Then travel it ! Drop your mining barge undock and come to fight cause i really have the impression that there's only TCF who's living in tribute.
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Vegas
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:12:00 -
[153]
Originally by: ZePequerio
Originally by: Vegas
I for one hope and will never agree to a NAP with TCF, the longer the conflict continues the less distance i have to travel for pvp.
Then travel it ! Drop your mining barge undock and come to fight cause i really have the impression that there's only TCF who's living in tribute.
Hhmm then surely you would be controlling HW and IMK also? And im sure we both know that is'nt going to happen --------------------------------------------
Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned.
Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:13:00 -
[154]
/me sigh...
I wonder why I even try to quench the flames in this thread, since even MM and TCF diplomats make posts that blatently invite flaming.
Obviously, trying to get a reasonable discussion about this conflict is an exercice of futility. Can a mod lock this, please?
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:29:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Shadowsword /me sigh...
I wonder why I even try to quench the flames in this thread, since even MM and TCF diplomats make posts that blatently invite flaming.
Obviously, trying to get a reasonable discussion about this conflict is an exercice of futility. Can a mod lock this, please?
always talk ingame
From Dusk till Dawn
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lazyb22
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:38:00 -
[156]
Edited by: lazyb22 on 05/09/2006 18:40:01 As you can fully see that its not only LV having the problem taking out poses. When you have a good enemy, trying to get him out of a system no matter the numbers, LAG will always win and the defenders have the upper hand.
I didnt read the entire thread just the first part and the first thing that came to my head was C-J with RA. LAG sucks and until it can get fixed a well organized defender will always win.
Lazyb22
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Karylia
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:41:00 -
[157]
It's a game guys...just a game, keep cool :)
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Miss Lilly
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:43:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Karylia It's a game guys...just a game, keep cool :)
without ennemies this game will be boring no ?
Agree 100%.
Looking forward having you as enemies for loooooong time \o/
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:18:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
*snip*-Tirg
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
i must admit this time u hit the nail, u have no idea how ubercool i am, and how lasy egocentric i am. im 4tw and everyone knows it :D
u r also right i dont wanna spend even a milisecoond to write everything properly, whichever word i can use shortcut for, i use it. ppl who should have my respect have it, and remember respect is earned not just given.
maybe if i cared for ur opinion i would write grammaticly/spelling correct posts to be sure u comprehended correct (thou i dont think anyone has problems with understanding what i write anyway), but all u can do is obviously just pointing at my spelling so i have no intension to change the same.
Of course I'm right.
Quote:
uneducated ? whatever rocks ur boat, im pretty sure im much more educated then u , but its completely irrelevant anyway
Sorry but flipping burgers at McDonald's doesn't make you more intelligent.
Now that we're done with our little flame war (which I've enjoyed, to be honest), I need to find something else to do.
Good day, sir.
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Vegas
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 19:42:00 -
[160]
Originally by: lazyb22 Edited by: lazyb22 on 05/09/2006 18:40:01 As you can fully see that its not only LV having the problem taking out poses. When you have a good enemy, trying to get him out of a system no matter the numbers, LAG will always win and the defenders have the upper hand.
I didnt read the entire thread just the first part and the first thing that came to my head was C-J with RA. LAG sucks and until it can get fixed a well organized defender will always win.
Lazyb22
QFT --------------------------------------------
Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned.
Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:03:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Shadowsword /me sigh...
I wonder why I even try to quench the flames in this thread, since even MM and TCF diplomats make posts that blatently invite flaming.
Obviously, trying to get a reasonable discussion about this conflict is an exercice of futility. Can a mod lock this, please?
It's a sick, sad world, bud. This thread only proves it.
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Petite Pierre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:23:00 -
[162]
Tous sont la bas pour pvp et le plaisir de le pvp jeux.
Alors, pourquoi cette blaguerie sur les forums ? --------------------
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Axia Firehead
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.05 23:15:00 -
[163]
maybe because peopple dont like to feel insulted, wich some peopple do , accusing us of exploting. this only make anger and hatred growing, to a non return point.
first, we had a lot of respect for the coalition, but, more and more, with the flame, the smack, and the insult, this respect change to anger, and anger to hatred. too sad.. for all of us. but, human nature is like this.
now, i think that this tread should be lock, or thing will be said that nobody want to hear ( or read )
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.05 23:25:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Winter QC
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
*snip*-Tirg
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
i must admit this time u hit the nail, u have no idea how ubercool i am, and how lasy egocentric i am. im 4tw and everyone knows it :D
u r also right i dont wanna spend even a milisecoond to write everything properly, whichever word i can use shortcut for, i use it. ppl who should have my respect have it, and remember respect is earned not just given.
maybe if i cared for ur opinion i would write grammaticly/spelling correct posts to be sure u comprehended correct (thou i dont think anyone has problems with understanding what i write anyway), but all u can do is obviously just pointing at my spelling so i have no intension to change the same.
Of course I'm right.
Quote:
uneducated ? whatever rocks ur boat, im pretty sure im much more educated then u , but its completely irrelevant anyway
Sorry but flipping burgers at McDonald's doesn't make you more intelligent.
Now that we're done with our little flame war (which I've enjoyed, to be honest), I need to find something else to do.
Good day, sir.
flame war ? it needs some intelligence to get in flame war. facts which u gave out about everything was pointing out my typing. grats sir, im pretty sure that child who can read can conclude that sir.
but practice more maybe u get a grip one day...
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:15:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:16:21
Originally by: Don ZOLA
it needs some intelligence to get in flame war.
Quoted for rofl.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:19:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:16:21
Originally by: Don ZOLA
it needs some intelligence to get in flame war.
Quoted for rofl.
for quality flame war , if u dont look it that way then ur giberish is flame war too.
i dont count "i rule u suck" in flame war...
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Wintersun QC
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:22:00 -
[167]
Actually, you'd kick my arse any day in Eve. So I guess I suck -AND- rule. Which is quite an accomplishment .
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:29:00 -
[168]
^ Was me.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:35:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Wintersun QC Actually, you'd kick my arse any day in Eve. So I guess I suck -AND- rule. Which is quite an accomplishment .
can u like stop quoting me and bs around, u r not posting anything related to topic or anything inteligent related to anything in ur posts so plz stop spam which involves me in it by quoting me...
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:38:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:39:29 I didn't quote you in my last post.
(And at the same time, it's kinda hard to contribute something to a "omg you create lag" and "omglolol exploitz" thread.)
It's been a pleasure "dealing" with you sir, I look forward our next epic battle.
Much love, Winter
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:45:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:39:29 I didn't quote you in my last post.
(And at the same time, it's kinda hard to contribute something to a "omg you create lag" and "omglolol exploitz" thread.)
It's been a pleasure "dealing" with you sir, I look forward our next epic battle.
Much love, Winter
it was related to me and answer to me, so dunno if u understand it fully but it involves me.
its still much more contribution cuz at least its on topic ^^... epic battle ? u frenchies really like to exaggarate and boost around , u prolly even won in that battle in which u had no proper offense nor defence....
i dont count explaining basics to noobs in battles sir, so hope u learned something valuable in ur forum whoring career...
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:50:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:51:41 I don't see how whoring forums is "bad". Thanks to you, I've had lots of good laughs.
Oh, and you're wrong. Random silly accusations != contributing to the thread.
My carrier is bigger than yours.
Edit: If you actually took the time to read the thread instead of blindly posting random crap, you'd notice I mentionned that I've never left America. So I guess that takes out the "frenchie" part of your last post.
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:52:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
there is difference between quality forum whoring and ranom babbling.
therefore as u failed at quality forum whoring u dont contribute to thread.
No, there isn't.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:52:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Winter QC I don't see how whoring forums is "bad". Thanks to you, I've had lots of good laughs.
Oh, and you're wrong. Random silly accusations != contributing to the thread.
My carrier is bigger than yours.
there is difference between quality forum whoring and ranom babbling.
therefore as u failed at quality forum whoring u dont contribute to thread.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:01:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 00:56:56
Originally by: Don ZOLA
there is difference between quality forum whoring and ranom babbling.
therefore as u failed at quality forum whoring u dont contribute to thread.
No, there isn't.
EDIT: The hell do you think we've been doing for the last 2 days? Not contributing to the thread. And guess what? I love it.
as its more then obvious that point of ur posting in this thread is to counter me with some stupid remarks and try to have last word in "disscussion". i hereby state that i will not reply to u anymore and let u have that precious "vicotry" for u, cuz we already found out u have bit different standards for victories, and let u be able to sleep well with no tears tonite. u should have gone into ur point before so i could have realised it faster and let the children enjoy their free posts on forums. may the last post be urs, enjoy in it :)
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Wintersun QC
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:04:00 -
[176]
Why thanks.
That was too easy.
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:05:00 -
[177]
^ Was me.
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 04:43:00 -
[178]
Winter Qc.......shut up lol Dont help the flamme here! ATM you justified the existence of pathetic people who cry because they can win online....plz stop that its not gonna help us to win something....Think about it...its just a forum
And nobody can lock this nosense Topic?
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.06 07:02:00 -
[179]
er tcf is stupid!....
sorry i got nuthin, I suck at smack 
I hope we can get back to poking each other with big sticks over the coming days
and email [email protected] if your eally want some tactical lockage
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Wintersun QC
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.06 10:55:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Emrod Winter Qc.......shut up lol Dont help the flamme here! ATM you justified the existence of pathetic people who cry because they can win online....plz stop that its not gonna help us to win something....Think about it...its just a forum
And nobody can lock this nosense Topic?
You've just ruined my fun. Who am I supposed to pick on now?

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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 10:56:00 -
[181]
^ Damn you alt.
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kashkaisha
Minmatar Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:12:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Winter QC
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Winter QC Edited by: Winter QC on 04/09/2006 23:04:06
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so all u have to say is about my spelling ? didnt expected anything better tbh, and i have no intension to change my way of typing cuz u lack one chromozome to understand it...
and yea blame it on the WOW and 12 yo...dunno how u guessed thou...
Right. So it's my own damn fault you can't take a few more seconds of your time to sound a bit brighter? I mean, it's not that hard and it pleases everyone that reads your posts. But hey, you're too cool for that, aren't you? I mean, being an egocentric piece of **** > having respect for those that will read your worthless posts.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
and if u check my sentences they r mostly correct and sorry that i dont wanna lose my time to write ARE instead of r, etc...cuz guess what, i dont give a **** do u understand it or not, and for having gramatically and spelling errors - have u ever heard of anyone not living in usa and not having english as native ? and plz read carefully i dont tyep liek that etc as i said i just use some "shortcuts"....
No sh*t. That's just great. Now you blame it on the fact that English isn't your native language. Well NEWS FLASH, it isn't mine either. I learned it by reading forums and by playing video games - as english classes weren't implemented at school back then. Is it a reason for me to type like an uneducated tool? No. (And as stated in my previous post, I don't give a damn about a few grammatical/spelling errors. Not everyone had english as their native language.)
But then, I don't see how the fact that English isn't your native language is making you type "u", "y", "ur" "u r" instead of "you", "why", "your", "you're/you are". Unless it's coming from a lazy, spineless fool with 0 self-respect.
Originally by: Don ZOLA
*snip*-Tirg
I'll insert a random, useless comment in an attempt to prove my point just like you did: Bewbs. (See, it didn't work. Just like it didn't work in that pathetic attempt of a post you just made.)
Much love, Winter
(On-topic: smack smack smack, your mom, my carrier is bigger than yours, etc.)
i must admit this time u hit the nail, u have no idea how ubercool i am, and how lasy egocentric i am. im 4tw and everyone knows it :D
u r also right i dont wanna spend even a milisecoond to write everything properly, whichever word i can use shortcut for, i use it. ppl who should have my respect have it, and remember respect is earned not just given.
maybe if i cared for ur opinion i would write grammaticly/spelling correct posts to be sure u comprehended correct (thou i dont think anyone has problems with understanding what i write anyway), but all u can do is obviously just pointing at my spelling so i have no intension to change the same.
Of course I'm right.
Quote:
uneducated ? whatever rocks ur boat, im pretty sure im much more educated then u , but its completely irrelevant anyway
Sorry but flipping burgers at McDonald's doesn't make you more intelligent.
Now that we're done with our little flame war (which I've enjoyed, to be honest), I need to find something else to do.
Good day, sir.
flame war ? it needs some intelligence to get in flame war. facts which u gave out about everything was pointing out my typing. grats sir, im pretty sure that child who can read can conclude that sir.
but practice more maybe u get a grip one day...
Lol, for a corp who build is reputation on "low" pirating gate camp in rancer, you ave quite a opinion in tcf thread involving. If you ask me why i post that, just get out of the tread, that way you cut half the smack talk
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: kashkaisha
Lol, for a corp who build is reputation on "low" pirating gate camp in rancer, you ave quite a opinion in tcf thread involving. If you ask me why i post that, just get out of the tread, that way you cut half the smack talk
my corp earned its reputation much before u even bought ur first learning skills in this game. and it was earned by making pf-346 one of the bloodiest chokepoints in eve for 2 years. during that time we became well known pirate faction (aswell our teddybears friends:), we became respected for being skilled, not using exploits (like some sides mentioned in this thread do ^^), honouring our word and giving respect where respect is due.
our operations in rancer cant harm our reputation in any way, cuz we r still same as we were before but bit more ruthless :P. low empire is our way to earn isk and we dont c anything wrong in that.
so next time plz buy a clue before u try to "attack" someone without knowing facts bout that person, cuz u r just trying to start smack war with me but not having much brains for it and going offtopic...
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Winter QC on 06/09/2006 19:13:16
Originally by: Don ZOLA
so next time plz buy a clue before u try to "attack" someone without knowing facts bout that person, cuz u r just trying to start smack war with me but not having much brains for it and going offtopic...
Quoted for irony.
Edit: Caps r teh bad omglolbbq.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 19:24:00 -
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Why don't both of you convo each other ingame to see who has the biggest e-peen, and stop polluting this thread?
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T'namo Celai
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.09.06 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: T''namo Celai on 06/09/2006 19:50:05
Originally by: Shadowsword Why don't both of you convo each other ingame to see who has the biggest e-peen, and stop polluting this thread?
..unneeded bumps.
Just let it go, I'm starting to dislike clicking any TCF related thread, because it's as much chest beating as the bob threads used to be.. I think you are COLSUP's PR person (or: you appear to be so from your posts), and you might want to reconsider the amount of attention you are getting atm, and what whould happen with your image if the situation ends different from what you think/hope atm.
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Emrod on 07/09/2006 04:13:42
Originally by: T'namo Celai Edited by: T''namo Celai on 06/09/2006 19:50:05
Originally by: Shadowsword Why don't both of you convo each other ingame to see who has the biggest e-peen, and stop polluting this thread?
..unneeded bumps.
Just let it go, I'm starting to dislike clicking any TCF related thread, because it's as much chest beating as the bob threads used to be.. I think you are COLSUP's PR person (or: you appear to be so from your posts), and you might want to reconsider the amount of attention you are getting atm, and what whould happen with your image if the situation ends different from what you think/hope atm.
Useless comment T'namo... get a life or come figth ingame plz 
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:18:00 -
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[MOA] 207: [TCF] 19
i think we are winning that fight.
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Kalyster
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Doe [MOA] 207: [TCF] 19
i think we are winning that fight.
Actually 20. We got a veldspar one this morning.
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Doe [MOA] 207: [TCF] 19
i think we are winning that fight.
If you count assists as kills, coming up with huge ratios is pretty easy. Espescially for a gank squad operating away from the front line, where the enemy is concentrated. So, nothing to brag about, sorry. If you want to impress the crowd, come makes that ratio around D7...
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Karylia
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:18:00 -
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It reminds me the 4S Killboard, where all killmails issue by the alliance was entered (4S + others) while only the looses of the corp was entered. Not bad to tip the scale in its favour :)
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Reann Ni'shaang
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Karylia It reminds me the 4S Killboard, where all killmails issue by the alliance was entered (4S + others) while only the looses of the corp was entered. Not bad to tip the scale in its favour :)
(sry for my english)
Because it is 4S Corporation killboard it includes all kill mails with 4S Corporation pilots in them. It also includes only 4S Corporation losses. It does not include any kills or losses made by other Morsus Mihi members in the Campaing pages you most likely are refering at. So your assumption that it includes all kills from RAWR and only 4S Corporation losses is incorrect. Contact me ingame for further information if required.
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword So, nothing to brag about, sorry. If you want to impress the crowd, come makes that ratio around D7...
That would be preatty much imposible, wouldn't it?
POS hugging FTW
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Shadowsword
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.08 07:55:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
Originally by: Shadowsword So, nothing to brag about, sorry. If you want to impress the crowd, come makes that ratio around D7...
That would be preatty much imposible, wouldn't it?
POS hugging FTW
Lastest pos kill: august 20. About 800 entries in our killboard since then. Do we really hug pos? pretty moronic statement.
What is exactly this saying, that Toothless dogs always bark loudest? One kill and 3 assists against TCF in the last 2 months, and very little pvp activity overall.
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Garek
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.08 08:38:00 -
[195]
Please could you close the subject. 
We have other things to do.
Thank you
Regards
Garek
--- Diplo
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Vathar on 08/09/2006 11:56:04
Originally by: Simon Illian => Having the Control tower in the 1st place on our killboard is logic, a lot of fight have occur near the POS, and ... dunno what, the CT have fire in a lot of different target (cycling) and is involved in an enormous number of kill, somes kill alone, but it's far from the majority of the kill.
Just did a quickcheck while I was bored, but there is a HUGE amount of solo kills (including BS kills) from control towers.
Just looking at the last 20 BS kills from the POS, 16 are solo kills, 3 include significant forces, and one includes a lone stiletto tackling the BS.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, the net Isk is based upon the numbers of people present on killmails to end up with a balanced kills/losses total, and the pos still shows the upper hand. That last part is not surprising, it's there 24/7, has huge firepower, while even top killers of any alliance have to sleep now and then!
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Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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jude miel
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.08 16:55:00 -
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top killer.... Minmatar Control Tower 172 kill 0 loss Ghost Eagle 575 kill 25 loss Nit2B 763 kill 6 loss ect ect ect.... Control Tower top in point not top killer.
and that please make believe that all the kill are posà the lag prevents you aimed us but not the reverse, one logoff has all the combat and exploded fact your ship (lol); one undock never bus our base one a doomday which makes exploded your ship personallyà ect ect ectà I see that: we have D7, the coalition has loss 2 or 3 times larger than us, than one makes money in tribute and venal, than the pos which explodes in this moment are morsus.
forgiveness for my English (that made a long time that I left the school also ^^)
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.09.08 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: jude miel top killer.... Minmatar Control Tower 172 kill 0 loss Ghost Eagle 575 kill 25 loss Nit2B 763 kill 6 loss ect ect ect.... Control Tower top in point not top killer.
Depends on the way you look at your killboard, a quick browsing on ghost Eagle and Nit2B's kill-list tell me they're fleet animals, meaning that you'll see them appear on long kill-mails (disclaimer: to get on top of a killboard does not happen by sheer luck, so they have to be competent and dedicated players, don't think I'm trying to be offensive on that point).
We can also consider that Ghost and Nit's presence on top of the killboard has started a long time ago, whereas the POS started racking up kills when you started your assault on tribute. But, by your own killboard rules, you get less points when there are many people, which makes sense, same seems to go for net isk.
What I see is many BS kills coming from the POS, where no pilots appear on killmails, so by reading this, I come to think that POS play a large part in those engagements (perhaps too large, but this is not criticism aimed at TCF, merely a criticism of game mechanics)
As for the second part of your post, I have to admit that I didn't really understand what you were saying, but you can always Evemail it to me in french ... _
Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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Tirg
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.09.08 19:23:00 -
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