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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1923
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:56:02 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I see that you have plenty of excellent ideas for changes to be made. But how would you take control of your seat on the CSM to make these changes? What are your plans for making your vision become a reality? How do you intend to have an influence on the CSM?
P.S.: did you write that passage linked above about you being a blackmailer? Come on now, be honest. Its always hard to get your own ideas on the agenda. Best way to do so, is trying to convince the CSM /CCP one by one and let them see why some of the ideas should be added to Eve. But in the end its still CCP's decision.
I might be all grrr...war dec everything in game and enjoy being a 'evil guy', but the CSM is hard serious work. If I make it to be a CSM, they'll see a way more serious side of me.
That link above is about 50% true and 50% bull ships. Not something I feel like responding to here. Move it to C&P and I might if I have the time.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2341
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:05:41 -
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That's it, you're going on my list, Tora!
CSM X: Sabriz Adoudel, Mike Azariah, Xander Phoena, Sugar Kyle, Corbexx, Jenshae Chiroptera, Marlona Sky, Tora Bushido
Highsec reform thread
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Valkin Mordirc
625
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Posted - 2015.02.12 06:25:24 -
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Shalimar Dante wrote:No Tears.
only your right face. You and Alex Meyer.
And last but not least i dont pay 10.000.000.000,00 ISK and i dont rejoin GS-E
Sounds like an Epic story. Why should Tora be apart of a CSM ballet if he's creating content? This seems like an excellent piece to go along with the rest of Highsec Fun.
If GSE lost 500bil and cracked because of it, YAY! Content! If GSE cracked because of poor leadership, YAY Content! If GSE is currently falling apart and Tora is deccing every shed corp, YAY Content.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
52
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:16:40 -
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0/ Tora
As a fellow merc, i would love some changes to the GUI for contacts and wars to give us more tools to analyze and organize data. Here are some of the things i think need changing.
I may spend some time to make some pretty pictures for these but for now.
War History - A way to organize/sort war history by date ended, rather then date began. There are a number of other ways to sort them that id like but this is the main one. - Colour code the background of each finished war with green for winner and red for loser - this gives some quick visual clarity. - Add a search function that allows you to look up all wars that said corp/alliance was involved in, including assists. - Add a pay bill button (and confirmation) to the right click options for active wars so you can do it from elsewhere.
Contacts - Allow us to add a secondary colour tag to contacts for organization. For example, i set pending wars to orange, active wars to red, and i leave neutrals clear for when i mass add corps/alliances. Id like to be able to set a secondary colour tag for things like known neutral scouts/logi, gankers etc etc. - Label groups. Please let me make a group of labels so i can split them into 'random wardecs', 'contract targets', ' Other mercs', 'Clients' etc.
Corporation - Pay bills is buggy and shows a lot of finished wars, please fix - Add a show info button when right clicking to pay a bill to give quick access to the corp info. - Add a search filter
Other - Create a customizable label that can be assigned to corps/alliances that all members can view (or even better have it customizable for certain roles. Would be handy to be able to set contract targets or clients to a easily viewable list, or have an icon that appears on show info to immediately indicate the label
Im sure there more i will add later. This was just off the top of my head |
Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
909
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:54:36 -
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Sahriah BloodStone wrote:0/ Tora
As a fellow merc, i would love some changes to the GUI for contacts and wars to give us more tools to analyze and organize data. Here are some of the things i think need changing.
I may spend some time to make some pretty pictures for these but for now.
War History - A way to organize/sort war history by date ended, rather then date began. There are a number of other ways to sort them that id like but this is the main one. - Colour code the background of each finished war with green for winner and red for loser - this gives some quick visual clarity. - Add a search function that allows you to look up all wars that said corp/alliance was involved in, including assists. - Add a pay bill button (and confirmation) to the right click options for active wars so you can do it from elsewhere.
Contacts - Allow us to add a secondary colour tag to contacts for organization. For example, i set pending wars to orange, active wars to red, and i leave neutrals clear for when i mass add corps/alliances. Id like to be able to set a secondary colour tag for things like known neutral scouts/logi, gankers etc etc. - Label groups. Please let me make a group of labels so i can split them into 'random wardecs', 'contract targets', ' Other mercs', 'Clients' etc.
Corporation - Pay bills is buggy and shows a lot of finished wars, please fix - Add a show info button when right clicking to pay a bill to give quick access to the corp info. - Add a search filter
Other - Create a customizable label that can be assigned to corps/alliances that all members can view (or even better have it customizable for certain roles. Would be handy to be able to set contract targets or clients to a easily viewable list, or have an icon that appears on show info to immediately indicate the label
Im sure there more i will add later. This was just off the top of my head
God yes to all of that, how do I give you more than one thumbs up?
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
300
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:23:16 -
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This GSE drama shows that Tora is loyal to friends. This is supposed to be used as a reason to vote against him? That is some fairly odd logic
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
1922
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:25:30 -
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Sol epoch wrote: ... You change your mind so much I am suprised you even know what day it is.
Vote Tora for CSM X if you want no response to questions and no idea why he is there . Damn he doesn't even know why!
In these difficult times I at least trust Tora (and Sabriz) a hell of a lot more to make the right call, at the right time, on any given issue -- than the likes of Mike Asariah or Sugar Kyle, who just nod sagely when CCP suggests more nerfs to the game we love.
Just as you can always trust a Mike Asariah or Sugar to side with a nerf, you can also count on Tora and Sabriz to defend the sandbox. It really is that simple, everything else is conjecture theatre for the autistic.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5094
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Posted - 2015.02.12 21:43:05 -
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This year I'm starting to have a look at the running CSM candidates in a bit more depth, and I've written a short review of your campaign, which can be found here.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1943
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Posted - 2015.02.13 08:10:02 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:This year I'm starting to have a look at the running CSM candidates in a bit more depth, and I've written a short review of your campaign, which can be found here.
You can write a blog any way you want it to go. ItGÇÖs clear that you and I donGÇÖt like each other. This is affecting your judgement. If I give someone a peace of cake, they would probably say GÇ£Ohh nice, thank you, I love cake!GÇ¥. Someone like you would say GÇ£Ohh Tora is a bad man, he is trying to make me fat!!GÇ¥. If you want to be a good writer Lucas, try to write these things without personal feelings. ItGÇÖs probably the hardest thing to do as a writer. This is one of the things that will make me a good CSM, as I can do this.
GÇ£Tora has changed his mind since he started his campaignGÇ¥ vs GÇ£Tora listens to the community and is willing to change if neededGÇ¥
The CSM isnGÇÖt about my ideas, itGÇÖs about the communities ideas. A CSM is there to listen to the voices and express them at the meetings.
GÇ£IGÇÖve been quite critical of a few CSM members since the beginning of these campaigns, and Tora is the only one that has gone out of his way to ignore me, even going so far as to block me on twitter from reading his feed.GÇ¥ Looking at how people respond to your forum walls of text, are you sure itGÇÖs just me who wants to ignore you ?
Ok, thanks for the effort and Eve content (yes, I really mean that ), but IGÇÖll be going back to ignore Lucas mode.
Life short and prosper......
Tora
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2015.02.13 08:50:44 -
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I call it as I see it. It has nothing to do with feelings for you. I have no reason to dislike you beyond the fact that you are a terrible candidate for the CSM for precisely the reasons I've listed. You don't "listen to the community" you listen to a few select people and you change your mind if it will benefit you to do so. A CSM member needs to stand up for what the community wants, not just pitch and agree with ideas. I don't trust you to do that, and I certainly don't trust you not to change your mind about what is a good idea half way though. How can players be behind you if in 2 months time you might suddenly be against their playstyle because you can't make up your mind?
I get the impression that you just sit there and echo what you think people want to hear. More importantly than anything else a CSM member needs to be free-thinking with clear opinions about what is good and bad about the game, backed by substantial EVE knowledge. I don't believe you have that. I believe you'll say what you think people want to hear to try to get yourself elected, and you'll do it more for the glory of "look at me, I'm a CSM member" rather than to actually help the game.
Thanks though for turning this into an attack on me personally. This just further proves that what I wrote in the blog post is true. You are unable to handle criticism at this stage, so there's no way you'll be able to handle the amount of criticism you'll get as a CSM member.
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Haedonism Bot
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
1705
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Posted - 2015.02.13 10:51:41 -
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Lucas, your blog post and your comments in this CSM thread and others show you to be ill-informed, judgemental, and overly biased in your opinions. Also, you misspelled "focused".
You need to learn to be fair and balanced in your reporting in your blog, like I am in mine.
www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2015.02.13 11:48:45 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Lucas, your blog post and your comments in this CSM thread and others show you to be ill-informed, judgemental, and overly biased in your opinions. Also, you misspelled "focused". You need to learn to be fair and balanced in your reporting in your blog, like I am in mine. My opinions are just that, my opinions. They are no more or less biased than anyone else holding their own opinions. Ill-informed I very much doubt - differing in opinion to yourself perhaps, but that doesn't make me ill-informed just because I don't agree with your point of view. And judgemental, sure. I'm writing a blog post which give my opinion on whether or not a CSM candidate should be voted for, so it's likely to be judgemental.
By the way, "focussed" is a common way of spelling the word in the UK. Both are acceptable.
And I tell you what. I'll write up my blog as I see things, alright? I write my opinions as they are. If that get's some people's backs up, then too bad, get over it.
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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
190
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:03:07 -
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Being a High-Sec dweller myself for a long time with most of my characters and praying that EVE doesn't turn that nerfed Disneyland I will support Tora and Sabriz with my votes to the CSM-X.
EVE need to stay as EVE. The funny thing is:I have trader, mission runner, incursion runner, industrialist and all sort of high-sec professions among my Chars, I fly with DScan everywhere I go, I keep one eye on what I'm doing and the other on local channel and the places where, supposedly, I would not be secure (low and null) are the ones where I'm not that paranoid. yeah, that is true, believe you or not.
About content, was a long time, since INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE, I don't laughed as much as I do when reading Miner Bumping.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:44:37 -
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Not convinced that's not a code alt based on language, but I'll bite.
I think quite a lot of people would rather EVE doesn't turn into a "nerfed disneyland". But that's not what Sabriz and Tora stand for. What they want is their playstyles to be the primary playstyles of highsec. If Tora was being honest, he'd realise how badly unbalanced wardecs are and propose heavy rebalances to that.
It really amuses me though that you say that from a character who has always been in an NPC corp. Why no actual corp? Could that be perhaps because entering into a player corp in highsec if you do anything beyond pure PvP is completely pointless, thanks primarily to wardec mechanics?
At the end of the day you can vote for whoever you want. If you think Tora is a good candidate, then go ahead and vote for him. Just remember you're voting for someone who needs to have a wide range of skills - and most importantly needs to be able to maturely handle criticism - and if you vote for someone purely based off of the fact that for the past month he's run a campaign that says "EVE is evil", you are more likely to end up with a dud.
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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:17:39 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Not convinced that's not a code alt based on language, but I'll bite.
I think quite a lot of people would rather EVE doesn't turn into a "nerfed disneyland". But that's not what Sabriz and Tora stand for. What they want is their playstyles to be the primary playstyles of highsec. If Tora was being honest, he'd realise how badly unbalanced wardecs are and propose heavy rebalances to that.
It really amuses me though that you say that from a character who has always been in an NPC corp. Why no actual corp? Could that be perhaps because entering into a player corp in highsec if you do anything beyond pure PvP is completely pointless, thanks primarily to wardec mechanics?
At the end of the day you can vote for whoever you want. If you think Tora is a good candidate, then go ahead and vote for him. Just remember you're voting for someone who needs to have a wide range of skills - and most importantly needs to be able to maturely handle criticism - and if you vote for someone purely based off of the fact that for the past month he's run a campaign that says "EVE is evil", you are more likely to end up with a dud.
Haha, yeah, my "engrish" is not that good, perhaps because is not my native language as well?
As I said, believe you or not - Uedama and Halaima are a nightmare for me, but these guys are really active folks that love the game, as much as I do. I've being called an Alt from lots of people in EVE and I would love if that statement was a reality. Unfortunately, I'm an Alt of nobody, even playing EVE since 2006.
In fact, I have several disagreements with Tora and Sabriz. As example, I don't like when Sabriz refers to haulers that take his courier contracts as "useful idiots"... And no, I didn't take any, but I need them too.
I could log on the other accounts with Chars in player corporations and alliances, but this is the one I use on the forum and I will post with him, regardless of what you think.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
156
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:54:34 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:This year I'm starting to have a look at the running CSM candidates in a bit more depth, and I've written a short review of your campaign, which can be found here.
A very balanced review that I will endorse. I also listened to the podcast.
I agree with your final analysis and think he needs to get an agenda without contradiction as this can be seen as weak and people will not be comfortable with it.
I hope he does not take this the wrong way as I know his way of playing and have first hand experience of the way he does things.
As a conclusion I say that Tora is not in the CSM campaign for EVE he is in it for Tora which comes over quite clearly.
Good Advise is free and can come from some unusual areas. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1949
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:04:45 -
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If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
156
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:07:38 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol.
Maybe you should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack!
In the podcast you stated you listened to people and changed your approach, Maybe the one's you are knocking have some good advice you should take on board just like the population you hope to represent? |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1950
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:38:43 -
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Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol. Maybe you should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack! In the podcast you stated you listened to people and changed your approach, Maybe the one's you are knocking have some good advice you should take on board just like the population you hope to represent? Humble, hahaha I am here for the evil side of Eve, not for the crybabies in game.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
157
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:31:06 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol. Maybe you should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack! In the podcast you stated you listened to people and changed your approach, Maybe the one's you are knocking have some good advice you should take on board just like the population you hope to represent? Humble, hahaha I am here for the evil side of Eve, not for the crybabies in game.
And you miss the point again.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1952
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:51:57 -
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Sol epoch wrote:And you miss the point again. You know how arrogant that sounds. Think about it
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2360
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:24:57 -
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Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol. Maybe you should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack! In the podcast you stated you listened to people and changed your approach, Maybe the one's you are knocking have some good advice you should take on board just like the population you hope to represent? Humble, hahaha I am here for the evil side of Eve, not for the crybabies in game. And you miss the point again. You're missing his point, actually. He's having too much fun watching you squirm to bother explaining it to you, or perhaps he doesn't feel you're worth his time, but I feel your pain so I'll give you a hint: it's all about your attitude. He reads your posts and listens to what you say, and he disagrees with it. Do you have good ideas? Maybe, sometimes definitely yes. Is it presented in an unbiased fashion? Far from it. Your posts have been very self-centered and condescending. You talk like Tora's platform is an affront to everything you hold dear. Maybe you really feel that way, but bringing it into the discussion isn't going to help.
CSM X: Sabriz Adoudel, Mike Azariah, Xander Phoena, Sugar Kyle, Corbexx, Jenshae Chiroptera, Marlona Sky, Tora Bushido
Highsec reform thread
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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
159
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:07:16 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Sol epoch wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:If I make it to the CSM, I'll promise never to listen to players like Lucas, Veers and Sol. Maybe you should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack! In the podcast you stated you listened to people and changed your approach, Maybe the one's you are knocking have some good advice you should take on board just like the population you hope to represent? Humble, hahaha I am here for the evil side of Eve, not for the crybabies in game. And you miss the point again. You're missing his point, actually. He's having too much fun watching you squirm to bother explaining it to you, or perhaps he doesn't feel you're worth his time, but I feel your pain so I'll give you a hint: it's all about your attitude. He reads your posts and listens to what you say, and he disagrees with it. Do you have good ideas? Maybe, sometimes definitely yes. Is it presented in an unbiased fashion? Far from it. Your posts have been very self-centered and condescending. You talk like Tora's platform is an affront to everything you hold dear. Maybe you really feel that way, but bringing it into the discussion isn't going to help.
And what exactly is Tora's point? More to the point what is yours in quoting the above are you Tora's spokesperson?
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11765
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:11:46 -
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Sol epoch wrote: And what exactly is Tora's point?
I should have thought that was obvious.
You aren't worth consideration.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5100
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:12:03 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:You're missing his point, actually. He's having too much fun watching you squirm to bother explaining it to you, or perhaps he doesn't feel you're worth his time, but I feel your pain so I'll give you a hint: it's all about your attitude. He reads your posts and listens to what you say, and he disagrees with it. Do you have good ideas? Maybe, sometimes definitely yes. Is it presented in an unbiased fashion? Far from it. Your posts have been very self-centered and condescending. You talk like Tora's platform is an affront to everything you hold dear. Maybe you really feel that way, but bringing it into the discussion isn't going to help. Actually it's just another example of a player criticising Tora where he has put himself in a position to be criticised and judged. Then rather than responding in a mature way, Tora has tried to make a joke of it or simply insulted the players in question. This is not a new trait, and it's certainly not something I'd expect to see from someone running for a CSM position. Of course Tora can't see this, because in his mind he's perfect and it's the rest of us that must be flawed.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2361
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:38:28 -
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Sol epoch wrote:And what exactly is Tora's point? More to the point what is yours in quoting the above are you Tora's spokesperson?
In your opinion I am being very self-centered and condescending but that is just your opinion wrong nonetheless and nothing more, You are entitled to it as am I or anybody else.
Maybe you also should be a bit more humble in your approach and not take all that is said as an attack! I'm just trying to give you some advice. You seem to be failing to get the kind of response you want out of Tora. I've already discussed things with him in a civil manner and he has responded to me with seriousness. He doesn't take you seriously and I'm telling you why. You can continue along the path you are on and expect the same outcomes, or you can change what you are doing to change your outcome.
I'm satisfied with what I'm getting, Tora is apparently satisfied with what his responses are getting. There's my advice. Take it or leave it.
CSM X: Sabriz Adoudel, Mike Azariah, Xander Phoena, Sugar Kyle, Corbexx, Jenshae Chiroptera, Marlona Sky, Tora Bushido
Highsec reform thread
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
542
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:55:24 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:AFK, while in Space, on the same grid If youGÇÖre logged in and undocked, I think you should also be active behind the keyboard. Players should press a notification button every 30 minutes if they are still on the same grid in space. One of the reasons I think people go AFK while mining... Miners, mercs and gankers in hisec arent the only players in game. What about players who live in space where it is not possible to dock (like wormholes or hostile null) and uncloaking = death?
W-Space Realtor
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1957
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Posted - 2015.02.14 15:05:42 -
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I used to fly in wh space for a few years and I understand they don't have much other options then to be cloaked in space. Sometimes for longer periods to get fleets in the wh's. Then you're not just sitting still without a good reason. In most cases you will be flying around, checking posses, statics etc. Not sure if you'll sit still on grid for longer then 30min much ?
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
542
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Posted - 2015.02.14 15:29:42 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:I used to fly in wh space for a few years and I understand they don't have much other options then to be cloaked in space. Sometimes for longer periods to get fleets in the wh's. Then you're not just sitting still without a good reason. In most cases you will be flying around, checking posses, statics etc. Not sure if you'll sit still on grid for longer then 30min much ? And I am not saying you cant be cloaked..... I love cloaks For example during preparation stages of operations we might spend weeks collecting intel on some holes, requiring you to be online and watch as much as you can. And every time you log on or off, you make yourself visible a potentially blow the whole operation. I cant risk being seen every time I want to check whether they are doing anything noteworthy. So with your "solution" we'd either have to push a button up to 47 times a day or not do intel at all. I dont see how either option improves the game.
Or we might be watching someone who is preparing to farm, which can take hours.
And many PvPers multibox during large fight, placing their covops in various holes along the fight for getting warpins, collecting intel, combat scanning or looking for exfiltration routes if the hole gets collapsed or camped. These scouts are just sitting there, being handy in case they are needed. And if Im flying a logi, I really dont want to be clicking random button on other screen just so my buzzard sitting in safespot doesnt die because Im currently busy repping my fleetmates.
So yeah... while I might sympathise with your desire to deal with AFK miners in hisec, I dare say that ******* over wormholers (and others) in the process isnt the right way to do it. Forcing players to click buttons that dont do anything isnt gonna bring fun to anyone. And people who simply cannot dock because the design of space doesnt allow them to do so, shouldnt be extra penalized for living in already hostile place. Unless you propose ejecting AFK players from stations and POSes.
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Tora Bushido
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Axloth Okiah wrote:So yeah... while I might sympathise with your desire to deal with AFK miners in hisec, I dare say that ******* over wormholers (and others) in the process isnt the right way to do it. Forcing players to click buttons that dont do anything isnt gonna bring fun to anyone. And people who simply cannot dock because the design of space doesnt allow them to do so, shouldnt be extra penalized for living in already hostile place. Unless you propose ejecting AFK players from stations and POSes. I agree....
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