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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1542
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Posted - 2014.12.10 12:39:16 -
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If people vote for me, they will know their Fedo's are safe. Already have a few thousand running around in my HQ (no joke ).
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Michele Bachmann
Collapsed Out Overload Everything
103
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:26:18 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:You might have different views on things in Eve and real life and that's ok. The biggest difference between you and me is, I tell people that right away, straight in the face and not on the forums when it suites me. But you're right, making jokes at a great thing as Evesterdam is terribad. And laughing with the entire group about good presentations is also very bad. Having fun with you at the bar, when you accept our beers..... Ahh, well, I think you get the point by now. Very disrespectful to use an event as Evesterdam for your own personal issues. You're probably the last to lecture me about respect.
I'm offended at the presumption that I somehow used Evesterdam as some vehicle for a personal vendetta.
I observed you acting like an ass, I felt it pertained to your CSM run (of which I had no knowledge of at Evesterdam) and I voiced my opinion.
If I were you I'd be telling people how good your interpersonal skills are but seeing that you lack any ability to respond to criticism in any sane manner, that would just be a waste of everyone's time.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1545
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:44:40 -
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Michele Bachmann wrote:I'm offended at the presumption that I somehow used Evesterdam as some vehicle for a personal vendetta. I observed you acting like an ass, I felt it pertained to your CSM run (of which I had no knowledge of at Evesterdam) and I voiced my opinion. If I were you I'd be telling people how good your interpersonal skills are but seeing that you lack any ability to respond to criticism in any sane manner, that would just be a waste of everyone's time. Are you sure beer was all you had in Amsterdam ? Funny how your opinion is so different then all the other people I spoke too. Personal opinions are ok, but don't go crazy on the fairy tales
You are offended....lol
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4523
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Posted - 2014.12.10 17:45:08 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Michele Bachmann wrote:I'm offended at the presumption that I somehow used Evesterdam as some vehicle for a personal vendetta. I observed you acting like an ass, I felt it pertained to your CSM run (of which I had no knowledge of at Evesterdam) and I voiced my opinion. If I were you I'd be telling people how good your interpersonal skills are but seeing that you lack any ability to respond to criticism in any sane manner, that would just be a waste of everyone's time. Are you sure beer was all you had in Amsterdam ? Funny how your opinion is so different then all the other people I spoke too. Personal opinions are ok, but don't go crazy on the fairy tales You are offended....lol To be honest, while I've only had contact with you through the game I'd be surprised if Michele's comments are far off. You are pretty self obsessed and not really a people person. It would be half interesting to see you get onto the CSM just to see how long it takes for them to ask you not to show up to meetings. That said, it's probably better for people to stick their votes somewhere they might make a worthy difference.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1547
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Posted - 2014.12.10 18:35:13 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:To be honest, while I've only had contact with you through the game I'd be surprised if Michele's comments are far off. You are pretty self obsessed and not really a people person. It would be half interesting to see you get onto the CSM just to see how long it takes for them to ask you not to show up to meetings. That said, it's probably better for people to stick their votes somewhere they might make a worthy difference. Are we talking about me or yourself Lucas ? If there is someone who enjoys listening to his own long forum posts, It's you mate Do you think I could run Marmites for years if I wasn't a people person? Players who have been there from the start. Do you think I would have good relations with so many alliances all over Eve ? Just because you don't know about these things, doesn't mean they aren't there. You life in your own perfect world, where everyone else is weird, which is ok, but remember it's just your fantasy world. Don't start making up things because it makes you feel better. That's not very nice, is it ?
/me waiting for longggg "I am Lucas, I am so great" posts....
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4525
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:37:44 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Are we talking about me or yourself Lucas ? If there is someone who enjoys listening to his own long forum posts, It's you mate Do you think I could run Marmites for years if I wasn't a people person? Players who have been there from the start. Do you think I would have good relations with so many alliances all over Eve ? Just because you don't know about these things, doesn't mean they aren't there. You life in your own perfect world, where everyone else is weird, which is ok, but remember it's just your fantasy world. Don't start making up things because it makes you feel better. That's not very nice, is it ? /me waiting for longggg "I am Lucas, I am so great" posts.... Wow, after all this time, still running with the "I know you are so what am I" response. Think that will really win you the votes? And yes, I think any idiot could run a highsec corp which goes after easy targets. There's literally nothing to run. You don't have assets, you don't need to worry about holding space. You can just dock up if the going gets tough. Other than accepting recruits and kicking people out when they lose a ship, you really don't have to do anything. And I seriously doubt the "good relationships" based on the way people talk about Marmite and yourself specifically.
At the end of the day, we don't need someone that acts like a child whenever they are criticised in the CSM. Perhaps that works from running a nub alliance, but it really doesn't work in the grown up world. You can accuse me of "making it up" all you want, but people can go ahead and look at the posting history of yourself and your alt General Lemming, and they can see the way you act. If they really want to vote for that, they have that choice, but I doubt most people will. Should you by some miracle make it (let's face it, competition is weak this year), I give it 2 meetings before CCP tells you to leave.
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Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1002
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:11:26 -
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I never knew you could troll these CSM campaign threads but it looks like it's OK.
Can I have a higher up confirm it's for everyone to do or do you have to be a bottom feeding nullbear scrub like Lucas to do it?
D.
Psychotic Monk:
I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4525
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:14:19 -
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Danalee wrote:I never knew you could troll these CSM campaign threads but it looks like it's OK.
Can I have a higher up confirm it's for everyone to do or do you have to be a bottom feeding nullbear scrub like Lucas to do it? Having an opinion isn't trolling. Whether or not Tora likes it or agrees is irrelevant. Everything I've said can be independently verified if you so wish. Your post however is off topic, as I'm not the CSM candidate, so your opinions of me are in fact irrelevant.
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Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1002
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:21:32 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Danalee wrote:I never knew you could troll these CSM campaign threads but it looks like it's OK.
Can I have a higher up confirm it's for everyone to do or do you have to be a bottom feeding nullbear scrub like Lucas to do it? Having an opinion isn't trolling. Whether or not Tora likes it or agrees is irrelevant. Everything I've said can be independently verified if you so wish. Your post however is off topic, as I'm not the CSM candidate, so your opinions of me are in fact irrelevant.
Well, I also have an opinion, it is the following;
Lucas is a manchild whose toys got smashed by marmites hence his terribad trolling/crying on every thread related to Tora, Marmites or any other good EVE players.
Lucas is frustrated from doing nullbear industry 24/7 and having no friends except for the pubescente monkeys he sometimes gets to fly with when they need a cyno or throwaway logi.
If this needs to be in the CSM Campaign threads, I don't know. I've reported our posts and we'll let CCP decide. By the way, nothing you've said is based on fact, everything is based on your feelings. Learn the difference.
D.
Psychotic Monk:
I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4525
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:36:18 -
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I'm not going to get into a debate with a known troll over this, so this will be my last response to yourself.
It's a fact that when criticised, Tora reacts by attacking and insulting other players in a manner that can only be likened to a child on a playground. Feel free to go back through his forum posting history and verify this for yourself. He certainly does not have the attitude one would want to see from someone holding the responsibility of representing the playerbase. His campaign proposals themselves are badly thought out, badly presented and self serving. If you disagree, great. People can read what they want and make their own decisions. And let's face it, the fact that you've come to his thread specifically to insult one of his critics is clearly and indication of the type of player he keeps in his close circles.
As for your opinions about me, they are not relevant to this thread. If you want to go off somewhere and start up a whole thread dedicated to insulting me, please, feel free.
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Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1002
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:39:49 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Straw grasping
In my quotes of everything you've written in this thread so far, please point me to the facts you keep referring to? Don't shoot the messenger if you dislike the real facts baby It makes you look... What was that word you used? Childish!
D.
Psychotic Monk:
I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2903
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:30:16 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
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Vice Admiral
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1550
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:01:37 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:/me waiting for longggg "I am Lucas, I am so great" posts.... Damn I am good Vote for Tora, he can predict the future !
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1552
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Posted - 2014.12.12 20:23:53 -
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I take CSM more serious then this.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Don Purple
1074
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:53:25 -
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I am crying xD.
I am just here to snuggle.
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Sweet Trader
The Hollow Men
31
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:33:39 -
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Fewer crunchies and more dancing eh?
Clearly this campaign just got real. |
Kerrat Braban
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:15:14 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:If youGÇÖre logged in, I think you should also be active behind the keyboard. AFK cloakers and miners should press a notification button every 20 minutes, which appears randomly on the screen. So if I have to go pee I have to log, not cloak. If I have to run downstairs to fetch a Pizza, I have to log, not wait in a Station. If I have to drive my son to school which only takes a few mins I have to log, not sit in a POS....
I guess I have to be happy that you'll allow me to stay online for 20 mins without activity.
Now for real, if you want people to be online and active have CCP build a timer into the client, if there's no action for 20 mins have it closed. Too extreme? Thought so.
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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
527
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Posted - 2014.12.14 02:51:58 -
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But... I like afk cloaking!
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Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
1687
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Posted - 2014.12.15 22:35:41 -
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If Ankesemtapemkah liked to PVP, the campaign thread would probably look like this.
Tora just doesn't have to social skills to be an effective CSM. The petty back and forth on this thread is fairly typical of the interactions I've had with him, both working with and against him.
We can do better.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1566
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Posted - 2014.12.15 22:47:58 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:If Ankesemtapemkah liked to PVP, the campaign thread would probably look like this.
Tora just doesn't have to social skills to be an effective CSM. The petty back and forth on this thread is fairly typical of the interactions I've had with him, both working with and against him.
We can do better.
If you can do it, anyone can. At least my social skills are much better then yours. This Noir. support might just have given me more votes.
Thanks for the bump ! <3
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
70
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Posted - 2014.12.16 00:04:31 -
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Would surely agitate against stealth "nerf hisec to death" candidate such as you sir.
A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
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Evei Shard
Shard Industries
391
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:09:30 -
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I find it difficult to take your proposed changes seriously considering the alliance you lead thrives on pushing the limits on some of the very issues you've brought up.
In fact, it beckons the mind to consider whether or not your proposals are merely an elaborate charade, the end game of which would be switching your official position to the exact opposite upon election.
Profit favors the prepared
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1568
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Posted - 2014.12.16 08:17:16 -
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If you look at the last two replies you can see one telling me I will nerf Eve to death and the other one who thinks I will do nothing as it doesn't suite my alliance.
Eve is about content and balance. If I think Eve is getting to nerfed, I will bring in more darkness. If it's to dark, shine more light. And to keep this in balance, I talk and listen to people. Even to people I personally do not like.
Making decisions as a CSM should not be about feelings, but facts.
I have made some strong statements here on this post. Not because that is the fixed direction, but to get some good discussions going on and see how people think about things. After reading the replies, I'll start correcting the direction we move in.
No Yin without yang and vice versa.
For people who think I will turn high-sec in to a nerfed Wow Disneyland, no worries
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4559
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Posted - 2014.12.16 11:37:46 -
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The truth really being that you'd only really push for changes which benefit you regardless of whether it's balanced or good for the game, whine endlessly about other changes which negatively affect you and explode into childlike rage when you are challenged. I'm pretty sure most people know how you behave and really don't want to see the CSM with someone like you on it. I mean seriously, look at your response to Alekseyev: "At least my social skills are much better then yours". This isn't a school playground where "I know you are so what am I" is a normal response. Also, it's "than".
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1568
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Posted - 2014.12.16 11:54:33 -
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Eve is a great game, where you can get daily tears from some predictable players. This is something I will never nerf !
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
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Skandel
The Wet Spot
9
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Posted - 2014.12.16 12:11:44 -
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This thread needs more 'high level' industrialists. |
Kirk36
The Chosen 0nes Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.12.16 13:15:17 -
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i vote for Tora Bushido |
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
447
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Posted - 2014.12.17 06:49:55 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Edit: I retract my earlier comments. Tora's platform is nothing at all like what I would have expected from him. I apologize to my supporters for having previously endorsed him, I made an error of judgement.
A vote for Tora's platform is a vote for more safety, less player interaction and less engaging gameplay in highsec.
As a consequence, it's also a vote for more people to transfer their wealth generation activities out of dangerous space and into highsec. We are already seeing an exodus from wormholes as people move back to the safe wealth production of highsec and any increase in highsec safety will only make this worse. Once the bottom of the food chain leaves, there's nothing left for small gangs to fight over.
I certainly did not expect you to push the Veers Belvar line of 'Ganking hasn't been nerfed nearly enough, we need massive additional nerfs to it'.
I agree entirely with Sabriz, and am very disappointed in the positions Tora Bushido has taken here. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1577
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Posted - 2014.12.17 08:12:30 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:I agree entirely with Sabriz, and am very disappointed in the positions Tora Bushido has taken here. As I said before, my direction has not yet been set in stone. I am using them to see how people think about Eve. I am not here to make Eve as I would like it to see it, I am here to make it as the community wants it to be. So tell me, how would you like Eve to be.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
20931
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Posted - 2014.12.21 01:19:55 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Are we talking about me or yourself Lucas ? If there is someone who enjoys listening to his own long forum posts, It's you mate Do you think I could run Marmites for years if I wasn't a people person? Players who have been there from the start. Do you think I would have good relations with so many alliances all over Eve ? Just because you don't know about these things, doesn't mean they aren't there. You life in your own perfect world, where everyone else is weird, which is ok, but remember it's just your fantasy world. Don't start making up things because it makes you feel better. That's not very nice, is it ? /me waiting for longggg "I am Lucas, I am so great" posts....
Tora, I can't speak for everyone, but I personally look for a certain level of maturity in a CSM candidate. CSM is a diplo position, in many ways, and you have to deal with CCP who are the most psychologically difficult alliance of all. Falling for Lucas's bait post shows a lack of that maturity.
You can throw eggs and be as reactive as you want to be, but it reflects badly on you more than anything. This isn't Lucas's CSM candidacy thread, it's yours. Don't [insert 4 letter word here] where you live, or so they say.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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