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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:39:27 -
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Shaleb Heworo wrote:In all honesty: That might be the reason why you don't understand how broken ogb is: You don't pilot your ship. You see the strategic aspect only. Pilots in solo/small gang pvp have to rely on spaceship piloting tactics like kiting or slingshots and for reasons already stated that's exactly where obg becomes a problem. You on the other hand try to negate that problem by defining eve as a game of grand strategy where the opinion of those who focus on fast paced solo/small gang pvp can be disregarded because afterall it's just those players who play the wrong game. The truth is that both aspects are a part of eve and therefore you should listen to the players who have a problem in their part of the sandbox. EVE is a tactical game by its very nature. It's much more tactical than action-based, and piloting your ship actually requires very little skill. You can glorify your FW frigate exploits all you want, but I fly small ships too, and stand by my statement. Most fights are decided before they happen, not after.
Furthermore, if we're to only "listen to the players who have a problem in their part of the sandbox," EVE is going to experience some very drastic changes. For example, the people losing their autopiloting haulers full of crap to gankers at high-sec gates have a problem in their part of the sandbox. I guess that means we need to address that as soon aspossible, right? Or are we going to have a double standard?
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2349
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:44:15 -
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Shaleb Heworo wrote:
In all honesty: That might be the reason why you don't understand how broken ogb is: You don't pilot your ship. You see the strategic aspect only. Pilots in solo/small gang pvp have to rely on spaceship piloting tactics like kiting or slingshots and for reasons already stated that's exactly where obg becomes a problem. You on the other hand try to negate that problem by defining eve as a game of grand strategy where the opinion of those who focus on fast paced solo/small gang pvp can be disregarded because afterall it's just those players who play the wrong game. The truth is that both aspects are a part of eve and therefore you should listen to the players who have a problem in their part of the sandbox.
Yeah, because commanding your ship and using strategy has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with making sure your transversal is high, or knowing when to pull range, or what ranges you should orbit certain kinds of targets, or breaking up an enemy fleet by kiting away, or when to/when not to overheat.
Come on now. Don't be silly. I win 9 out of every 10 fights I get into, with or without my fleet. You're not talking to a novice.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2349
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Posted - 2014.12.05 06:50:13 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: EVE is a tactical game by its very nature. It's much more tactical than action-based, and piloting your ship actually requires very little skill. You can glorify your FW frigate exploits all you want, but I fly small ships too, and stand by my statement. Most fights are decided before they happen, not after.
Oh, but he's FW. The land of fantasy where if you're warpcore stabbed or you cloak up on the beacon when someone enters local, that means you won because you're better than them, and you're now free to talk smack in local whilst you hide.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:25:12 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:SoonGäó Off-grid boosting should stay. Don't like it? Probe down the booster alt, and kill it.
I see you missed the part where he said they just park their happy asses on station and dock at the first sign of trouble.
You should feel quite lucky that it has apparently never happened that way for you. I have a feeling that puts you in a minority. |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:27:38 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'm fine with OGB and I'll tell you why.
To make a good booster takes a long time. It's not like banging out a gank alt on a trial. It's more than six months of focused min/max training to do one simple thing. To add on grid capabilities to that would be another number of months.
Hogwash. I bought mine at the character bazaar with the 7B that I was able to afford because Im a long-time player. With 5 accounts I can afford to plex too. It's not fair to the little guy either way.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:34:17 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Shaleb Heworo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:SoonGäó Off-grid boosting should stay. Don't like it? Probe down the booster alt, and kill it. Can't do that without a probing account. Which brings you back to the point where a second account shifts the odds to a point where you basically "need" one to compete in pvp. Can you see how this might discourage new players? Why the hell do you need another account just for probing? There is literally nothing stopping you from training probing skills and strapping a probe launcher on a combat ship. OGB alts are usually untanked, sitting at a safespot, with mids and lows full of ECCM and sensor backup arrays. The good boosts are coming from Command ships, which would only be able to fit a t1 or improved cloak.. which cant be used while boosting. T3s have less boosts, but can be covert cloaked/nullified.. but once again.. not while boosting. T3s would also be running command processors, taking more midslots. And during combat, most OGB alts aren't tabbed to or d-scanning. TLDR, Drop some damn combat scanner probes and start probing while other people are fighting. Best case scenario, you get a hit, you warp to it, point it and **** it, worst case scenario.. the OGB alt is d-scanning, sees your probes and either warps or cloaks.. effectively taking them out of the fight anyways. WTL;SDFR (Way too long:Still didn't ******* read) Stop blaming OGB because you are averted to effort.
Sorry to disagree with you, but youre wrong for 2 reasons:
1. As mentioned in the OP, often the boosters sit on station and dock at the first sign of trouble. Not also that anyone shooting them is going to get the sentry guns firing on them while Happy McFuktard docks.
2. Oh, so just strap a probe launcher and probe em down?
We're usually talking firgates here in FW, right? Here's some facts for you
Expanded Probe Launcher 1 - 220 CPU to fit Expanded Probe Launcher 2 - 242 CPU to fit. Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher - 242 CPU to fit.
Sorry my friend, but this time your post looks rather like a troll, as what youre suggesting is not really feasible.
-the artist also known as Ssabat
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:37:18 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Does a 4-star General or Admiral directly participate in a battle? No. They observe and give orders to frontline commanders, and the battle is swayed by their influence.
Do the enemy combatants have a reasonable expectation of a warfield that somehow doesnt excesibly punish the new soldiers? No?
Straw Man.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:43:57 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Zappity wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:
If you can name a legit, objective difference, then you have some semblance of an argument.
The logistics have to come on grid to have any effect. *POW* right in the kisser! Don't try to cherry-pick your arguments like that.
I didnt see any cherries being picked. You asked a valid and simple 1-line question, and got a simple 1-line answer that should have been satisfactory to you.
Quote: We're talking about a 1v1+1 scenario here. If you're already engaged with an enemy who's tackling you, there's nothing you can do about that logistics cruiser that comes on grid 70km away from you. I know this for a fact, because I've been doing wars for the past forever, and that's how every such engagement played out. Whether it's a booster, or a logistics, or even another dps ship, the average utility during the fight will lean in favor of the party with twice as many characters in play.
And don't tell me something like "well, you can just break free of the combat ship and engage the logistics," because if that was the case, then there'd be nothing to complain about in the first place; you could de-aggro from any fight, booster or otherwise. Keep all other factors constant in this equation.
tl'dr can't admit it when someone blows my case out of the water in 1 simple sentence. |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:48:15 -
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Shaleb Heworo wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Shaleb Heworo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:SoonGäó Off-grid boosting should stay. Don't like it? Probe down the booster alt, and kill it. Can't do that without a probing account. Which brings you back to the point where a second account shifts the odds to a point where you basically "need" one to compete in pvp. Can you see how this might discourage new players? Or with the scanning module and the mobile depot in my cargohold, but hey...who needs adaptability? I only fly 1 fit ever after all... so before you enter a plex or engage a wt at the gate you jump to your safespot drop depot, wait timer, refit, scan for booster, realize that said booster is a command ship sitting at station/realize you can't scan down the booster with an unbonused hull, refit for combat anyway and finally warp back to not fight the target because you don't know if it's associated with said booster? seriously, enlighten me. Wouldn't it MAYBE be better to just let a terrible mechanic go for the sake of more pilots willing to engage spontaniously and more action for everyone?
No dude, you cant do that. Look at the CPU on your frigs, then look at the CPU requirement for expanded probe launchers. You cant fit them, suggesting so was an ignorant excuse on some ppl's parts.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:54:18 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote: I see what your problem is, mate. You're just a neckbeard....
From what Ive seen in local chats and on these forums, folks are either about 14 years old or really ignorant or just a "hipster" who says "neckbeard" because all the other lemmings jumping on an insult bandwagon against someone says it.
I mean really, "neckbeard?" Do you know what that means? How the f**k do you equate that to someone whom you believe to be making $****** arguments? Or even if you think theyre an ********, wtf does a neckbeard have to do with that? It's really dumb, man.
And to think I used to brag that I played a game for smart people. Lemme tell ya folks, I dont do that anymore. |
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:54:28 -
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Sabarian Thraxx wrote:
We're usually talking firgates here in FW, right? Here's some facts for you
Expanded Probe Launcher 1 - 220 CPU to fit Expanded Probe Launcher 2 - 242 CPU to fit. Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher - 242 CPU to fit.
Sorry my friend, but this time your post looks rather like a troll, as what youre suggesting is not really feasible.
A fairly typical fit for me is to have an offlined SOE expanded probe launcher. If I find something on dscan that looks like it needs probing I offline other mods and online the probe launcher. |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 08:58:05 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Charlie Firpol wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:...just annoying when you have to deal with uber solo frigs with loki links... Get your own links and not be solo? Wow, that was hard. This game sucks, let's all go play Elite instead. What kind of arguement is that? Get the same as your enemy, but more? Damn, you-¦re good at game balancing and tactics. What kind of counter-argument is that? It sounds like you just want everyone to let you win. This is where my country went wrong, was by telling kids that they're all winners, giving everyone a trophy, and punishing talent, intellect, and skill, because it makes everyone else feel inferior. You realize you were supposed to naturally grow out of that in high school, right?
Probably supposed to grow out of calling people "neckbeards" too, brofus.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:05:03 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:If we can agree that the nerf would stop with the timer and potentially kill-mails and sensor strength rebalancing (though the latter would only need a very small adjustment, since scanning is much stronger now), then we should just go through with it and put the matter to rest. IF. Keyword "if."
The timer addresses the issue of boosters exploiting sentry gun mechanics on gates and on station, but doesnt matter at all to the booster in a deep safe because nobody in a frig (remember, OP is talking about FW, which is mostly ppl running around in frigs) can fit an expanded probe launcher anyway?
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:10:36 -
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Brutus Le'montac wrote:Train up for an ogb yourself, or stop whining. this is clearly the "he cant haz nice things cuz i dont haz them" kinda behavior.
people invested months of training and subscription to train for it.
Nope, I bought myself a very nice booster for 7B. Did I get that 7B buy spending around $100 rl cash on plex to sell, or did I get it in-game because I have an older toon that can generate that much isk? At least option 1 is "pay to win" and option 2 still puts the newer players who cant afford that at a disadvantage.
Quote: its also a compleet valid mechanic.
I see you havent read the numerous posts where CCP is quoted as saying it is not a valid mechanic and that they intend to change it ASAP.
Quote: so its easy, get one yourself or stop your whining behavior.
How bout read the thread before shiptoasting?
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:16:06 -
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This kind of bothers me. I have an OGB and I don't think people realize it takes like a year of focused training to max out leadership and get Command ships kills. It's like 20m SP all included. Then add in the fact you need to keep that account active and paid for, for a year while you train it, and keep subscribing it for the boosts once it's done training.
A lot of the comments I read are people complaining they can't beat another guy because he's got boosts. Well you're not fighting 1v1. You're fighting 2v1. It's kind of normal to get killed in those situations. If you had 2 accounts as well you could go harass the booster and force him to dock, then you can get your fair fight with the other pilot. Or you can bring your own logi, ewar, ... do something else to turn the odds.
Before OGBs were a think people just had a Falcon or Pilgrim following them. 2 accounts will always be better than 1 account and if OGB gets removed people will just find a new, better use for their 2nd account that gives them the upper hand in fights. Will you complain about the next best thing too? Or will you just accept that 2 accounts get the upper hand on 1 account and get a 2nd one as well? |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:21:22 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Sabarian Thraxx wrote:
We're usually talking firgates here in FW, right? Here's some facts for you
Expanded Probe Launcher 1 - 220 CPU to fit Expanded Probe Launcher 2 - 242 CPU to fit. Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher - 242 CPU to fit.
Sorry my friend, but this time your post looks rather like a troll, as what youre suggesting is not really feasible.
A fairly typical fit for me is to have an offlined SOE expanded probe launcher. If I find something on dscan that looks like it needs probing I offline other mods and online the probe launcher.
Fair enough.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:25:38 -
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[quote=Aivo Dresden]This kind of bothers me. I have an OGB and I don't think people realize it takes like a year of focused training to max out leadership and get Command ships kills. It's like 20m SP all included.[quote]/quote]
OK guys, I promise this is the 2nd to last time (cuz I got another post inc) that I'm going to repeat this:
I bought a very nicely trained booster alt for 7B. I use him offgrid too becuase wth everyone else does, right? Didnt take me ANY TIME AT ALL, ALL IT TOOK WAS ISK I COULD GET WITH RL MONEY VIA PLEX.
Its freaking pay to win.
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:32:37 -
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So again, why shouldn't 2 accounts be better than 1 account, regardless of how you got the character? Is owning more than 1 account pay to win now? |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
6133
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:34:47 -
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Sabarian Thraxx wrote:Aivo Dresden wrote:This kind of bothers me. I have an OGB and I don't think people realize it takes like a year of focused training to max out leadership and get Command ships kills. It's like 20m SP all included. OK guys, I promise this is the 2nd to last time (cuz I got another post inc) that I'm going to repeat this: I bought a very nicely trained booster alt for 7B. I use him offgrid too becuase wth everyone else does, right? Didnt take me ANY TIME AT ALL, ALL IT TOOK WAS ISK I COULD GET WITH RL MONEY VIA PLEX. As for scanner alts, I regularly raise them on my trader accounts (the traders have all the skills they need) and have no trouble selling em for a few billion isk a piece, which, again, is obtainable via RL Money --> Plex --> ISK. Its freaking pay to win. Even for what little part I play in it as I say above, I still no it's BS too, and Im not gonna gripe when it's taken care of.
Except it's not pay to win, because having links =/= automatic win whether they're on or off grid.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
6134
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:37:16 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:So again, why shouldn't 2 accounts be better than 1 account, regardless of how you got the character? Is owning more than 1 account pay to win now?
Because managing two accounts simultaneously requires you to divide your attention. If you're fighting on a frigate on one account and paying a lot of attention there, you might not think to dscan for the probes homing in on your booster alt.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:37:54 -
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When OGB gets removed, we'll just bring a recon alt instead. Give it a week before people come to the forums to complain how OP neuts, jams, damps, ... on recons are. At the end of the day, it ultimately still comes down to 2 accounts are better than 1 account. You'll have to deal wit it. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
24697
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:43:11 -
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Sabarian Thraxx wrote:I see you havent read the numerous posts where CCP is quoted as saying it is not a valid mechanic and that they intend to change it ASAP. Link even one post by CCP saying it's not a valid mechanic.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
VENDO - wardec in effect. Check evemail and use TS when online.
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:43:20 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:So again, why shouldn't 2 accounts be better than 1 account, regardless of how you got the character? Is owning more than 1 account pay to win now?
Is owning more than 1 account the same thing as buying a pretrained character or are you making completely illogical connections?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5694
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:47:37 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:When OGB gets removed, we'll just bring a recon alt instead. Give it a week before people come to the forums to complain how OP neuts, jams, damps, ... on recons are. At the end of the day, it ultimately still comes down to 2 accounts are better than 1 account. You'll have to deal wit it. At least I will be able to shoot at that recon alt. Well, unless it is a Falcon.
The Paradox
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:47:52 -
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Sabarian Thraxx wrote:Is owning more than 1 account the same thing as buying a pretrained character or are you making completely illogical connections? It's not really relevant how the character was acquired is it? You have an alt OGB, how you got it is irrelevant. One took time, the other took dollars, which ultimately are time as well. You earn your cash working, spending time. If someone wants to pay $250 for an OGB, or instead just spend the ingame time training it, the end result is the same, an alt account with an OGB char on it.
If you want to complain about the character bazaar being "pay to win", go make a thread for that instead. |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:49:57 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Sabarian Thraxx wrote:I see you havent read the numerous posts where CCP is quoted as saying it is not a valid mechanic and that they intend to change it ASAP. Link even one post by CCP saying it's not a valid mechanic.
CCP Fozzie says they WILL remove it ASAP, and I'm going to give u TWO quotes on that. Now I suppose you'll overly parse and nitpick and say "uhh well they didnt say it was an invalid mechanic, they just said its no good and theyre gonna get rid of it, not the same thing, neckbeard hurrr hurrr"
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3077992#post3077992
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3079425#post3079425
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 09:54:34 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:Sabarian Thraxx wrote:Is owning more than 1 account the same thing as buying a pretrained character or are you making completely illogical connections? It's not really relevant how the character was acquired is it? You have an alt OGB, how you got it is irrelevant. One took time, the other took dollars, which ultimately are time as well. You earn your cash working, spending time. If someone wants to pay $250 for an OGB, or instead just spend the ingame time training it, the end result is the same, an alt account with an OGB char on it. If you want to complain about the character bazaar being "pay to win", go make a thread for that instead.
Maybe I will make that thread, but the concept certainly PERTAINS to this thread as well, because you people keep making the argument that you spent so much time levelling up your boosters and I'm PROVING that its an invalid argument because any month old ******* with daddy's credit card can buy an offgrid booster thats just as good if not better than your precious toon you spent a year levelling. GET IT?
And man, cmon, dude there is a difference between spending time levelling up your guy and "spending time working irl to make the rl cash u use to buy one." Cmon dude, are u really serious? So ANY P2W game is legit because hell, we all gotta work, right? Why cant we spend our hard-earned money on what we want?
Hell, lets bring back the Incrana micro transactions while we're at it. Its already done by proxy via plex for aurum.
edit: s c h m u c k is censored? really CCP? |
Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:00:44 -
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There's no guarantee you'll win with an OGB, or any amount of accounts or characters for that matter. So inherently it isn't pay to win.
You're really just complaining someone with more accounts beats you in a straight up fight. Unless you want to restrict EVE to 1 login per IP or something, you'll never be in the right here. If someone can log in multiple accounts and bring those to the fight, the opponent is going to be in a rough spot. Doesn't mean he can't disengage or even still beat you though. |
Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:04:50 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Aivo Dresden wrote:So again, why shouldn't 2 accounts be better than 1 account, regardless of how you got the character? Is owning more than 1 account pay to win now? Because managing two accounts simultaneously requires you to divide your attention. If you're fighting on a frigate on one account and paying a lot of attention there, you might not think to dscan for the probes homing in on your booster alt.
I semi-afk my booster on another computer with its monitor next the the main one. The Dscan window is front and center the whole time, with the mouse pointer on "scan." Even while fighting, it's not a feat by any means to click the second mouse's button every so often. And yep, 'soon as I see probes I (being already aligned of course) dock up. Them thar Damnations aint cheap, hoss!
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Sabarian Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Panic.
4
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Posted - 2014.12.05 10:08:14 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:There's no guarantee you'll win with an OGB, or any amount of accounts or characters for that matter. So inherently it isn't pay to win.
How bout we agree to call it "Pay to have an advantage?" Can you admit that thaat is fair?
Quote: You're really just complaining someone with more accounts beats you in a straight up fight. Unless you want to restrict EVE to 1 login per IP or something, you'll never be in the right here. If someone can log in multiple accounts and bring those to the fight, the opponent is going to be in a rough spot, OGB, recon, or otherwise. Doesn't mean he can't disengage or even still beat you though.
No Im not. I run 5 accounts, man, one of which has my dirty little OGB. Obviously I dont have a problem with multi-boxing. So that being said, thats not the argument Im making at all, I;m saying that OFFGRID BOOSTING is bullhockey. It is a clear strawman to claim I am arguing against multiple accounts. You can have a real person with only 1 account running offgrid boosts and it would still be bullhockey. Do you REALY not see the difference or are you just being obtuse now?
EDIT: Anyway guys, as has been linked numerous times in this thread by numerous people, including most recently me, CCP doesnt like OGB and they are actively working on the code to get rid of it. So tbh there's no reaosn for us to argue here, if you have a problem with it take it up with CCP. They disagree with you |
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