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Orcablasta
Criminal Violence
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:07:21 -
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Can we get a Gas Harvesting dedicated ship, seems CCP want dedicated ships, but people still using Cane or other COMBAT ships as Gas harvesters, something on the lines of the Noctis maybe
6 - Highs
4 gas harvesters
1 Scanner
1 cloak
4 - Mids
4 - Lows
3 rigs or 2
bonus for Gas mods
reduced for cloak
bonus to scanning
Just saying feel free to flame or support  |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:23:47 -
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If only there was some ship that was optimized for this already. I'd Venture a guess that one could find one or two ships that meet this description, if they would just Prospect for it.
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Orcablasta
Criminal Violence
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:29:38 -
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The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)
a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)
So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship |
Thenoran
Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:37:54 -
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The Prospect IS the Gas Mining ship.
With bonuses it mines mores with two harvesters than any cruiser/BC does with five. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:42:15 -
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Orcablasta wrote:The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)
a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)
So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship
1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time. |
Orcablasta
Criminal Violence
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Posted - 2014.12.08 20:56:18 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Orcablasta wrote:The Prospect is very inefficient (1 lazer)
a barge size ship is what I'm getting at. but that's ok you continue on your negativity (glass is half empty)
So many ships have alternatives (Class size) would e nice to have something in Gas SPECIFIC not just a generic ship 1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time.
Slow on the up take ?
Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret
so yeah 1 lazer
I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester
So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
1040
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Posted - 2014.12.08 21:03:55 -
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Orcablasta wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time. Slow on the up take ? Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class 1 - Covert cloak 1 - Probe scanner 1 - Gas Turret so yeah 1 lazer I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.
Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship?  |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
437
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Posted - 2014.12.08 21:39:26 -
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Well one drawback of a gas barge would be its low chance of survivoh I just noticed your name.
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Orcablasta
Criminal Violence
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Posted - 2014.12.08 21:42:41 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Orcablasta wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time. Slow on the up take ? Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class 1 - Covert cloak 1 - Probe scanner 1 - Gas Turret so yeah 1 lazer I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes. Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship?
wow what a great idea use an alt, wish I thought of that. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.12.08 21:54:18 -
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Orcablasta wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Orcablasta wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:1 Gas harvester? That's news to me. My Prospects use 2, and suck gas clouds dry in very short periods of time. Slow on the up take ? Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class 1 - Covert cloak 1 - Probe scanner 1 - Gas Turret so yeah 1 lazer I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes. Mobile Depot and refit? Use a dedicated prober instead of your gas harvesting ship? wow what a great idea use an alt, wish I thought of that.
It doesn't have to be an alt or second account. My pilots can scan and gas mine - whether they scan and refit with a mobile depot or have two separate ships is really up to you.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:20:07 -
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Orcablasta wrote:Slow on the up take ?
Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret
so yeah 1 lazer
I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester
So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.
As others have said, bring a mobile depot and refit.
1. Scan down gas sites and bookmark them.
2. Drop mobile depot.
3. Refit.
4. Scoop depot to avoid being scanned.
5. Go mine with 2 harvesters.
6. Profit.
EDIT: Or, scan them down with a dedicated scanning ship, bookmark them, and come back in your two-harvester Prospect. Either way works.
Given the speed with which a Prospect can clean out most gas sites, I don't really see the need for a bigger gas mining platform. Now, if there were larger sites available that the Prospect couldn't handle on it's own in a short time, I'd say that'd qualify as a need.
Having said that, I have always found it somewhat irksome that the Prospect only has 3 high slots.
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Aran Hotchkiss
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:24:09 -
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I might a nice amount of isk on the side scanning down emerald nebula in my Buzzard from time to time and then running them in my prospect.
For a while the venture was the go-to gas harvesting ship, able to mine a huge amount of gas compared to its size and cost, and the more recent prospect is a nice surprise.
Gas harvesting differs from standard mining currently in the sense that bigger ships =/= better, along with the fact that rather than a constant supply of asteroids that you mine over time, instead there are random occurrences of small quantities of gas with a relatively high value, which would clash with having a slow, covetor-style gas harvesting barge. |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:29:37 -
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the prospect has almost everything you wanted. You just need to fit mobile depot to refit. A bigger ship would just make it harder to do. |
Sigras
Conglomo
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:19:52 -
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Orcablasta wrote:Slow on the up take ?
Prospect has 3 highs - (and no way to defend not even 1 drone) and a frig class
1 - Covert cloak
1 - Probe scanner
1 - Gas Turret
so yeah 1 lazer
I fail to understand why your so negative towards a new CLASS of gas Harvester
So many ships classes but so little industrial ship classes.
It's almost as though they wanted you to have to make trade-offs when fitting your ship... |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2014.12.09 02:30:00 -
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to let you know , the gas harvesting skillbook allow to use 5 gas harvesters on level 5 so people were using ships sush a gnosis for this type of task how about tech 3 barge that can fit has harvesters? it could have three modes ore mining , ice mining, gas harvesting each mode apply role bonus and allow fit proper equipment
yes we do need gas harvesting upgrade as gas mining isnt affected by orca/rorqual boost sadly.
my idea for dedicated gas harvesting ship
6 high slots 5 turret slots
3 med slots
3 low slots
2 rig slots
cargo capacity 400
gas storage facility 15000
ship could have big sig size, but be able to covops,scan signatures ,no combat capablity
oh we should have also ice harvesting drones and gas mining drones tooo |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:46:31 -
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Amak Boma wrote:to let you know , the gas harvesting skillbook allow to use 5 gas harvesters on level 5 so people were using ships sush a gnosis for this type of task how about tech 3 barge that can fit has harvesters? it could have three modes ore mining , ice mining, gas harvesting each mode apply role bonus and allow fit proper equipment
yes we do need gas harvesting upgrade as gas mining isnt affected by orca/rorqual boost sadly.
my idea for dedicated gas harvesting ship
6 high slots 5 turret slots
3 med slots
3 low slots
2 rig slots
cargo capacity 400
gas storage facility 15000
ship could have big sig size, but be able to covops,scan signatures ,no combat capablity
oh we should have also ice harvesting drones and gas mining drones tooo
The role bonus of the ship (venture and prospect) make using 2 gas mining lasers better than any other ship with 5 lasers.
And the only link that matters (duration) does affect gas mining. |
DaeHan Minhyok
Multiplex Gaming
The Bastion
35
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Posted - 2014.12.09 14:02:52 -
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While a cruiser sized gas harvesting ship might be interesting the gas market seems to be doing just fine without it. And as mentioned, there are a couple comparable frigate options. |
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