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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:18:47 -
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o7 CCP Greyscale.
I find his disappearance on the eve (heh) of the nullsec revamp interesting, but then CCP Veritas left after the team working on Dogma was in place; it could very well be that they saw that things were in good hands and it was a good time to leave without being too disruptive.
Thanks for seven years, and good luck wherever you end up!
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1418
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:21:47 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves. (Another) winter is coming. And CCP should be moving their foreign talent to better liveable places than Iceland.
As I said, following devs like rockstars... makes no sense. We have gained seagull, I'm not worried. And as I said before, this is what networking is. You get a buddy who goes to a new company and then they can help you get in later, for whatever reason. And I would not blame greyscale for leaving, the vitrial the guy got for the jump fatigue alone... sheesh.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2670
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:23:57 -
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DaReaper wrote: "omg riot/ea/whatever is taking over ccp!" Eve Online has improved quite a bit since these guys left...
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
503
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:24:42 -
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Career Jump Fatigue initiated... 5 years before next resume may be sent.
Good Luck Greyscale. Sad to see any polarizing (yet passionate) individual go. Good hunting.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
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Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
425
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:27:52 -
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Every Dev that leaves can openly play the game, if they so wish... shame not to see more of them taking up the pod, honestly.
I know CCP Greyscale was quite polarizing for some, was stuck with a tough job that always was going to attract some flak, and sometimes involved some pretty big risks that were hard to get buy in from the community over. Time will tell how some of the later initiatives he spearheaded really turn out, but I'll always remember him for some very intelligent discussions held at Fanfest and wish him all the best with his next role. |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
188
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:33:15 -
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It amuses me when players blame a dev for a change as if that dev came up with the idea, made the change and authorized that change all on their own. All done without any input or work from other devs, or authorization from their boss. Its like the morons that complain about the development of a UI change is a waste because those devs working on the UI should have been working on Sov.
The simple mentality of gamers is indeed universal across all games. I hear the same things in other game forums. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
101
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:40:39 -
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I think a lot of us are saying
GOOD FAWKING RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
im glad he's gone!.. I truly am.. he's was terrible.. remove jump fatigue, he's literally killed the rorqual.. idiot didn't even know it was used for mining support.. and what he's done to industry is a freaking travesty.. the idiot didn't want a "perfect crafter"... screw him in his nerdy behind and im glad he's gone..
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3510
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:39:51 -
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Removed an off topic post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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dark heartt
515
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:46:52 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game."
You mean changes that a lot of people like?
http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
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MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
randomly named no tax corp v2
30
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:50:15 -
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He did well to stick to his guns over the jump changes, despite the avalanche of short-sighted whining that came in his direction. In the end he was proved right on that front. |
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
311
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:52:30 -
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DaReaper wrote:
As I said, following devs like rockstars... makes no sense. We have gained seagull, I'm not worried. And as I said before, this is what networking is. You get a buddy who goes to a new company and then they can help you get in later, for whatever reason. And I would not blame greyscale for leaving, the vitrial the guy got for the jump fatigue alone... sheesh.
I follow Eve like I follow Liverpool.
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:53:25 -
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DaReaper wrote:And we care why?
Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea. well why do people follow rockstars or sports team members?
because theya re involved with something they care about. the personalities and goals of the devs are what shape and direct the form and future of the game, when one leaves, their influence goes too, and is replaced by whoever takes up the reins.
its like yanks and their eggball teams, they get fanatical over who is and isnt on what team and how they perform, because that player can influence whether the team will flounder or prosper in the tournament |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10796
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:58:32 -
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I wonder when Riot will announce their new hire...
Regardless, sorry to see him go, he was always a catalyst for interesting developments.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
512
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Posted - 2014.12.09 00:59:08 -
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I went to school with Greyscale, I was finally going to get to go to Fanfest this year and was going to try and wedgie him or something.
He was in the year above me and me was a butthole.
Now I'll never get that chance
TMC Senior Developer
http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
311
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:00:19 -
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What ever my opinion of the changes you have made to my beloved mistress Eve Online. I know you did them believing you would make the game better for everybody. I also know that while to many of us you are solely a game Developer, you have like all of us, many facets to your life. I wish you all the best at your new employer, living in your new city, exciting times for you. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
313
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:01:01 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:(apologies for the source) Why?
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
439
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:33:23 -
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Good luck out there, Greyscale.
Go do stuff!
o7
Vote Sabriz!
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:46:26 -
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o7 Greyscale
Take care and be well.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
874
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:54:07 -
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o7 CCP Greyscale.
Oh, and I still want those divisions in the orca's fleet hangar back .
Remove insurance.
This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2414
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Posted - 2014.12.09 02:13:19 -
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dark heartt wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game." You mean changes that a lot of people like? The only ones who like them are those who think they make a difference, and those who take advantage of them for entertainment. Kill rights and bounty-hunting could have been so much more, but weren't. And you know what? That seems to define a lot of EVE changes recently. The people who seem to do the best jobs at CCP today are those who are working on things like ship rebalancing, usability, and artistic/visual improvements. Everything else is full of oversimplification and catering to the lowest common denominator.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
101
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Posted - 2014.12.09 02:18:50 -
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welp with his departure there goes any hope to rebalance and fix the rorqual since he said it himself that it will take a full on "team" to fix it.. just due to the changes he already put in place completely forgetting about the Capital Industrial Ship.
I guess fozzie will give her some new rigs or an extra slot somewhere..
Rorqual Rest in Peace... she was gutted in crius she was put to sleep in phoebe now her change maker is gone with no one left to even fix it he even had to pull "data" to find out she was used for mining support. so with him gone is the idea of "you will want this thing in the field" gone with him??
so many questions left and no one will answer it..
a good day and a sad day at the same time.
guess she'll get a timer for an answer.
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Evei Shard
Shard Industries
385
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Posted - 2014.12.09 02:21:48 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:welp with his departure there goes any hope to rebalance and fix the rorqual since he said it himself that it will take a full on "team" to fix it.. just due to the changes he already put in place completely forgetting about the Capital Industrial Ship.
I guess fozzie will give her some new rigs or an extra slot somewhere..
Rorqual Rest in Peace... she was gutted in crius she was put to sleep in phoebe now her change maker is gone with no one left to even fix it he even had to pull "data" to find out she was used for mining support. so with him gone is the idea of "you will want this thing in the field" gone with him??
so many questions left and no one will answer it..
a good day and a sad day at the same time.
guess she'll get a timer for an answer.
Don't fall apart just yet. Remember, in a recent devblog they said that letting caps into high-sec wasn't off the table for discussion. There's still hope for the Rorqual yet.
Profit favors the prepared
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
868
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Posted - 2014.12.09 02:48:55 -
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DaReaper wrote:And we care why?
Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea.
i think you don`t use twitter right? well i hate that s*... to. |
Liam Inkuras
Mafia Redux
1371
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:19:34 -
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Riot Games has gained an awesome dev.
Wait, that's where all CCP employees go when they leave right?
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1065
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:36:27 -
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Xtreem wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Xtreem wrote:DaReaper wrote:And we care why?
Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea. He made some good changes, while I agree they are not rockstars, Devs with a good vision is a good thing. people do seem to assign credit for specific changes to whatever dev is being the public face of the team responsible i have no idea which people were responsible for certificates, or whose project it was, but i remember greyscale is given credit and he happened to write the devblog i like certificates, i used the system a lot when starting out. helped me with early skill planning and with identifying important skills That's how project heads work. Project heads are in most cases assigned to projects, they don't choose them. They may make choices on implementation but for the most part they are just there to ensure the execution of an idea.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1065
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:37:33 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game." What is the applicable EvE saying? Oh yeah, adapt or die. Funny how people like to be selective with that opinion.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2414
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:48:27 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game." What is the applicable EvE saying? Oh yeah, adapt or die. Funny how people like to be selective with that opinion. Adapt or die to...Simplification? I'm not sure how that makes sense.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
496
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:50:45 -
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Out with the old and in with the new.
Lets keep this pace going on cutting the withered fruit, as the results have seemed to be more than positive.
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com
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Theodoric Darkwind
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
311
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Posted - 2014.12.09 04:15:51 -
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He was very polarizing and won't be missed.
On one hand some good came from his efforts like the new crimewatch system and the Phoebe jump changes (I live in null, own both a carrier and dread and still think the changes were a good idea in general).
But, remember he also is the person responsible for the dominion sov system, tied with Incarna as probably the worst design decision in the history of EVE. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2014.12.09 04:33:22 -
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Was he upset that teams are being cancelled?
Jokes aside, I was impressed with the way Greyscale fearlessly implemented changes to industry while patiently listening to player input and explaining CCP opinion and direction in the forums. It's not easy to keep a level head when players are rioting. He certainly withstood the heat in the kitchen with the jump changes.
Best of luck with the next stage of your career! |
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