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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:13:00 -
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If Amarr are the laser users, tell me why Minmatar use LADAR targeting and target painting (both being, essentially, laser systems). By the way, Amarr use RADAR targeting (good old trusty radio waves)...
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:15:00 -
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Because CCP dislike continuity more than the writers of Red Dwarf?
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:16:00 -
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It would make more sense for minni to use RADAR targeting, I mean come on, they're still using nuclear stuff.
Amarr would have even less of a reason to want to fit target painters than minni though. I think target painters... apart from making the ships over powered, seem like a caldari type of thing and so does LADAR targeting systems to me.
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Ash Vincetti
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:22:00 -
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That's because the Minmatar created the technology, then stole it and duck-taped it to their solar sails. This left the poor amarr scientists stumped and in order to not be sabotaged by the dirty slaves they reverted back to their previous "secure" technology.
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Midnighter
Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:24:00 -
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If Amarr used Ladar systems, there is the high possibility of interference from the large range of frequencies of energy emitted by the Lasers. Radar removes that potential.
I also thought Target Painters actually used some form of energy wave to amplify the energy signature of the ship, making it easier to target and hold, rather than an actual laser.
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Sodhammer
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:29:00 -
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The Minmatar seem to borrow technology from all the races and piece it together with duct tape. Jack of all trades, master of none.
And I am 45 seconds to late to post that Ladar might get interference from Laser weapons.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:42:00 -
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In a patch note, Tuxford revealed that even he thought that the Amarrian targeting system was LADAR and Minmatar RADAR rather than the other way around (with regards to how Guristas jam for reference).
As for target painting, in current real life it is done by laser to determine coordinates accuratly. There's nothing saying that it is lasers in EVE, but the animation suggests it (I told zincol he was a nubin for using lasers on a Hugin ). - Base insurance payout: 40% of ship base price Platinum cost: 33% of ship base price Platinum payout: 100% of ship base price Ship base prices can be found in CCP's Item Database. |
Filan Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:59:00 -
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the TPs could also be bathing the hull/shields of the target in some kinda low level radiation which the sensors can see easier.
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DrEiak
Amarr IONSTAR Vox Imperium
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Posted - 2006.09.08 02:01:00 -
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Lol
When Eve = Science is the day I tear up all my expensive books for school.
Its semantic, in the end lasers could do holy damage for all I care, and minmataar ships can be made of magic and rainbows. As long as everything works in the end
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.09.08 04:01:00 -
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I agree that it seems like Amarr should be using LADAR and Minmatar should use RADAR
Also, it would be more appropriate from balance AND common sense point of view for Caldari to be the most vulnerable to ECM and Amarr being most resistent to ECM.
Caldari rely on high tech stuff, they got more electronics, therefore they should be more vulnerable than someone using simple brute force technology.
Caldari already got too many advantages, while Amarr need a little boost. Changing this ECM faction balance would be a step in right direction.
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.09.08 04:16:00 -
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Simple - CCP drinks alcohol in large amounts.
The whole business does. CCP is a living breathing creature dosed up on booze =P
Minmatar should have radar because it seems like an older primitive type of system compared to whatever LADAR is which I have no idea what it is. ---
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.08 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: DrEiak Lol
When Eve = Science is the day I tear up all my expensive books for school.
Its semantic, in the end lasers could do holy damage for all I care, and minmataar ships can be made of magic and rainbows.
Holy damage and made of rainbows? Minnie are suppose to be sucky ffs!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.08 08:22:00 -
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Technically, RADAR is a form of LADAR, it just uses different frequencies.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.08 09:08:00 -
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I am finally going to vent my thoughts on a different matter but it seemed suited for this thread.
Caldari are fond of Long range warpfare right? (If you answear "no" to this I would like to point out the range bonus on many of their ships, the velocety bonus on missiles, which makes them go further, they primary use railguns and not blasters when it comes to hybrids and well, missiles are generally longer ranged than other guns) Back to the point. Caldari are fond of long range combat. Gallente are fond of close range combat.
That makes it all fecked up that Caldari's prefered EW style is ECM and Gallente's is Remote Sensor Damping.
It should be the other way around, should it not?
I mean - Sensor damping would benefit Caldari more since it is more effective at longg range than ECM is (RSD being 100% chance of doin the effect while ECM is more chance based)
OTOH Why use an EW module that limite the range of your attacker when your prefered style fo combat brings you WITHIN that range, even if you have THREE dampers on the target?
ECM would suit Gallente better (maybe make the max range 30km or so) and RSD would suit Caldari style of warfare much better.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.08 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sandra Tseng on 08/09/2006 09:13:12 LADAR/LIDAR Laser Detection and Ranging
RADAR Radio Detection and Ranging.
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Imaos
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Posted - 2006.09.08 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: Imaos on 08/09/2006 09:44:46
Originally by: Sandra Tseng
Caldari are fond of long range combat. Gallente are fond of close range combat.
That makes it all fecked up that Caldari's prefered EW style is ECM and Gallente's is Remote Sensor Damping.
It should be the other way around, should it not?
I mean - Sensor damping would benefit Caldari more since it is more effective at longg range than ECM is (RSD being 100% chance of doin the effect while ECM is more chance based)
OTOH Why use an EW module that limite the range of your attacker when your prefered style fo combat brings you WITHIN that range, even if you have THREE dampers on the target?
The answer is in your question. Gallente use dampeners to force the Caldari to go close quarter. Great for a blaster vs rail combat.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.08 09:46:00 -
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I thought this was gonna be a whinethread about: why the apoc with 800mm outdamages the megapulse
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Arkanor
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanor on 08/09/2006 11:01:00
Originally by: DrEiak Lol
minmataar ships can be made of magic and rainbows. As long as everything works in the end
MGRL just threw a party.
Why exactly does it matter? Amarr were first into space, naturally they used the first available system.
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McTaggart
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:36:00 -
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And the next person to post the 'how can lasers do em damage?' idiocy gets a -10 standing. By that logic everythign should do kinetic.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:54:00 -
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Don't try and offload that target painting bonus on us.
Ah, hell no you don't!
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.08 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: McTaggart And the next person to post the 'how can lasers do em damage?' idiocy gets a -10 standing. By that logic everythign should do kinetic.
ROFLMFAO, yeah i laugh at EVERYONE who posts that LOLOLOLOLOL
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.08 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap I thought this was gonna be a whinethread about: why the apoc with 800mm outdamages the megapulse
I dont' do whine threds.
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