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Rebeca Rocksteadian
Gallente Supernova Mining and Maufacturing - G-wing
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:10:00 -
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Not sure if this is the best thread to post this question in, but though you guys might be able to help. I was wanting to do some 0.0 ratting and was wondering:
a. what is the best way to go about doing this?
b. is it worht it to do 0.0 ratting over agent missions?
thanks for any help
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Awox
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:17:00 -
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I think is probably the 0.0 ratting is the best way to get quick ISK and sec boost.
The best way to do it? Get an Achura alt, buy +3 implants, train for 40 days to fly a t2 fitted raven and join some industrial corp out in 0.0
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Kandeed
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kandeed on 07/09/2006 20:49:19 Or if you can't afford to make a alt and use a t2 raven, find a station in 0.0 you can move your clone to, use that to evade the choke points. Find a outa the way system, 1 Gate, No stations, lots of belts. Use a ship that can tank them and deal the dps to kill them at a ok speed, i use a rax, not fast but can't afford a bs, nor can i fly one. Or you could get into a frig with t2 guns and fly under the bs's guns.
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Lodhi
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:17:00 -
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Enyo 4 Light neutron II's 1mn AB II x5/fleeting webb 3*Shadow serpentis mag stabs Small armor rep II
Find a nice place in vale of the silent or fountain - get rich
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Galan Amarias
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:38:00 -
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If you have two friends and fight turret using rats, Sansha's Bloodraiders... then you can play on the cheap. Get three frigs, any three frigs will do, be fast 600+ m/s, get in close with a nos and in your face weapons, tear the poor helpless things apart. You will have trouble hauling off all the loot so it might be handy to preposition some giant secure containers in a SS. But since you are using frigs, if you boom, *shrug* no big loss.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 23:13:00 -
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Caracel. I use to take anything up to 650K. Other then that i pull out the raven and overkill :)
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.09.08 00:00:00 -
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Caracal could take down bigger BSs if it wasn't made of paper. A ferox can take down 1.5m spawns but it takes forever since its dps is actually about the same as the caracal.
Raven is your best bet. You'll pay for it after a weekend of ratting assuming you do about 4 hours a day.
As for looting. Don't loot unless you have an indie with a bunch of tractor beams in the system. You'll make more money killing rats then spending 5 or 10 minutes collecting loot. Though what i do is put a tractor beam on my raven and loot cans within 20km while i'm still killing the rest of the spawn but thats as far as i go.
For safety, stay out of the first belt. When hostiles come in, they usually warp to the first belt and then scan. Or if they are lazy they just walk the rest of the belts.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.08 00:35:00 -
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Quote: Caracal could take down bigger BSs if it wasn't made of paper. A ferox can take down 1.5m spawns but it takes forever since its dps is actually about the same as the caracal.
I find the DPS to be smaller then the caracel if your using missiles. if you have a missile boat ferox then dont put guns in the remaining highs.. ;)
and yes, the caracel is made of paper, but as the DPS is similer to a ferox im not going to moan.
I have my ravens, and my feroxs, and so on, but atm the caracel is my fave ship for anything for its pure ******* firepower. --------------------------
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.08 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer
and yes, the caracel is made of paper
There is no such thing as a "caracel".
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Cutie Chaser
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.09.08 01:28:00 -
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Can people scan out your secure containers hidden at safespots, or by any other way locate them?
Can anyone suggest an 0.0 alliance that has Serpantis rats that I could try to slip past into a backwater system? |
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.08 03:03:00 -
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caracal has more firepower "5% per level" then Ferox. 20% more. and if a caracal does 120 damage, and a ferox does 100, if the BS tanks 70 damage, the ferox will do 30, and the caracal will do 50 "big difference"
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Rina Shanu
Peace Loving Criminals
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rebeca Rocksteadian a. what is the best way to go about doing this?
Best way to go asbout it is get in touch with some 0.0 entity(BoB ASCN CVA LV D2 whatever) and as for permission for your corp to rat in their space. If this is not possible, get yourself some BMs and hug the gate, when it is clear, jump in and get to a secluded low level 0.,0 area that doesn't have pilots in. Rat here as long as you want or until they decide to come get yo, but they will not mostly cause people in 0.0 aren't so many and they will not mobilise a gang for somebody ratting solo or with a friend in some backend system.
Originally by: Rebeca Rocksteadian b. is it worht it to do 0.0 ratting over agent missions?
Yes, it is. Best way of getting insta isk. I see you're gallente. I prefer using t2 frigs, so if you can, my advice is for you to use them. If not, try using a nice fitted thorax. You got drones and guns and everything. Or a brutix. Or a bs obviously.
RECRUITMENT this ok dear? |
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 08/09/2006 12:08:33
Originally by: Duban Banned caracal has more firepower "5% per level" then Ferox. 20% more. and if a caracal does 120 damage, and a ferox does 100, if the BS tanks 70 damage, the ferox will do 30, and the caracal will do 50 "big difference"
The ferox has one more missile hi-slot, and more low-slots for BCS. Plus it can stay longer in combat because of it's increased tankability (5% increase resistance for each BC-level ftw.).
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Yang Tze
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:19:00 -
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So you fly down to the back end of nowhere in your Thorax or Raven or whatever, and start ratting. How long's your ammo going to last? What do you do when it runs out?
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 08/09/2006 12:39:20 Ignore all these blokes. If your not in an alliance and wanting to hunt in 0.0 you want the following.
#A good very low true sec status group of systems #A Amarr HaC or Af / No need for extra ammo #If a HaC fit a cloak.
Head into 0.0 out of peak hours and work your way in deeper. Good systems for this are Fountain and Delve as theyre both very easy to get into. Stations will all have people in system so stay away from them. If someone enters your system youve decided to chain in SS, if its a fleet SS and then cloak to stop them probing you.
Ignore all loot except faction spawns, just keep killing bs after bs and you will get an easy 20mill per hour.
Note - To NPC with the retribution you will need TOP skills to be able to kill the high end NPC's in a reasonable timeframe. Retri can kill 1.1mill bs's with ease. 1.8mill is a nightmare lol
If you cant afford/dont have the skills etc for the above. join an alliance
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.08 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cutie Chaser
Can anyone suggest an 0.0 alliance that has Serpantis rats that I could try to slip past into a backwater system?
Fountian....However you have to put up with me hunting you that ok? :D --------------------------
0.01 ISK to the first mod that writes in my sig! :D Pay cash value in cookies plskthx - Immy Oh man thats gonna be a lot of cookies. Make them chocolate chip aswell - Xorus I'll give ya a goat for them cookies!-Tirg |
Rina Shanu
Peace Loving Criminals
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Posted - 2006.09.08 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yang Tze So you fly down to the back end of nowhere in your Thorax or Raven or whatever, and start ratting. How long's your ammo going to last? What do you do when it runs out?
You can have a cargo full of ammo. By the time you finish that ammo you should have: * a nice sec status, * made enough isk to cover for 3 feroxes or more thoraxes and setup * have a few very good safe spots.
So you can now afford to risk making a run or two to get a secure container and enough ammo to stay there even longer. If you don't make it it should be no biggy couse you can afford it. (use a scout?) Best thing is for amarr cause we all know they consume no ammo unless it's t2.(I'm amarr :P)
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.08 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The ferox has one more missile hi-slot, and more low-slots for BCS. Plus it can stay longer in combat because of it's increased tankability (5% increase resistance for each BC-level ftw.).
They both have 5 launcher slots.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath |
Tammarr
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Posted - 2006.09.08 19:20:00 -
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Take hauler alt, stuff cargo with sec containers and ammo. Roll hauler out into the system of your desire. SS the containers, log alt of, bring in main. log alt on go to planet etc, drop can with bms for sec cans. Log main, get can and bookmarks... you now have ammo for several days of ratting.
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NerVee
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.09.09 11:15:00 -
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mg your all noobs
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.11 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The ferox has one more missile hi-slot, and more low-slots for BCS. Plus it can stay longer in combat because of it's increased tankability (5% increase resistance for each BC-level ftw.).
They both have 5 launcher slots.
Doh on me.
Though, apart from that - my argument is still valid.
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: NerVee mg your all noobs
and your wisdomness helped this thread by a very ill-uminating post.
we shall be for ever grateful
Now to the OP. Join a 0.0 corp if your going for the isk. If not than grinds those missions. may get some nice offers from agents.
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Icarium Intaki
Gallente Vindication Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.11 22:34:00 -
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Sorry for jacking the thread, but I was curious.... If 0.0 ratting in a Thorax, is an armour tank or super-hard hitter best? Or to put it another way, what to have in low's?
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Areconus
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Posted - 2006.09.11 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Areconus on 11/09/2006 23:12:35
Originally by: Icarium Intaki Sorry for jacking the thread, but I was curious.... If 0.0 ratting in a Thorax, is an armour tank or super-hard hitter best? Or to put it another way, what to have in low's?
Bad idea, unless you have max skills....your radius will be too big and bses will harm u like crazy. Even with an ab and up close and personal, you may be getting off easy on the gunshots but the torps will tear u apart. Now that 'might' be possible if your facing one bs, ut any more than one and you will be toast. Also, you will be toast against large numbers of cruisers and/or frigs
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Dynast
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Posted - 2006.09.12 01:25:00 -
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It's totally worth it to rat in 0.0, if only because living in 0.0 is just plain better and more fun than living in Empire space. There's real risk, a need to fly aware, and great bounties and sometimes great loot. Not to mention people are generally a bit more polite, since you can shoot them at will if they cheese you off. This, of course, goes both ways. At least for me, 0.0 ratting has really suited me.. I like to solo, and have really sporadic play times, so the upsides are great and the downsides (getting camped now and then) doesn't really matter when you don't have a hardon to play for hours straight.
A thorax is fine for starters, when I moved out to Syndicate I had something like 500k combat SP, a Thorax, and 3 mil to my name. It didn't take long at all to afford upgrades to a Brutix and later a Domi.
Personally I like to loot, it cuts into your ISK/hour, but if you accumulate a good sized stash of mixed components out in 0.0 you can avoid having to go back to Empire for anything other than skill books, ships, and t2 components.
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mallina
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.09.12 02:04:00 -
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IF you have a character that can fly transports and are competant with 0.0 travel with them, then best option is to take some giant secure cans and anchor them in a safespot somewhere in a backend 0.0 far away from any main traffic routes or stations/areas of general activity. these cans could be used to carry ammo, but can be extremely useful for storing valuable loot also. I managed to fill up 6 GSCs doing this in Delve,and then haul the contents back when finished (but leaving the cans there) to Aridia. at least 100mil worth of minerals and 200mil worth of sellable loot (heavy dim NOS, rolled tungsten plates, modulated guns, etc)
one rule about backend system npcing though: if someone enters local, 99% chance that they're there to kill you. which means, jump to a safespot ASAP. if you dont see them on scanner at all then chances are they're in either a Force Recon or Covops, the latter which would mean you'd likely have to log to save your SS being busted / you dying
the biggest issue with this i found is getting an NPC setup ship to and from that system (in the case of a BS). Transporting the cans / loot shouldnt be too difficult with instas and a blockade runner though, but you can never be too careful :) ----------- <3 Turbulance |
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