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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:32:38 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote: few people can say they made a trillion from PVP only
I don't think anyone has ever said that
Of course, if you played since 2004 you would know that PvP is nothing but a profitless isk sink.
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
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Hiasa Kite
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:36:46 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:Zifrian wrote:
Ultimately who cares though? Play how you want. It's your money.
Nuff said Btw what the foolish think their Hardcore PvPer's forget is without Miners they would all be flying around in noob ships as it's the miners that are at the top without them there is no ammo other than from NPC and they don't sell that much. That's not how a free economy works. That's not how any of this works.
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GhostOfDoom
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:GhostOfDoom wrote: few people can say they made a trillion from PVP only I don't think anyone has ever said that Of course, if you played since 2004 you would know that PvP is nothing but a profitless isk sink.
no I should hope not , my point is most people on both sides pvp and pve are new and don't know what eve was like when a LVL 4 mission was a Corp event lol
Miner and PvP Hauling Building just plain market trader I hear little moaning from either side coming from the older players.
Hate to say this but Eve is cruel to the new player get over it or get out.
we had it worse we trained skills that are no longer in game ok we got SP back but still damn I had learning V and Advanced learning V.
mining a gate they were the days watching pods pop as the flew through them.
I just hate people that call them self PvPers and hunt the defenseless.
but that's just me I used to find the hardest kid in a new school and kick his ass or make sure he would think twice before trying again |

GhostOfDoom
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:11:57 -
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Sol Project wrote:[quote=Kestral Anneto][quote=Sol Project]I hope that cleared it up for you. :)
well your wrong and if you want to find me This is where I afk mine
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:16:52 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote: I just hate people that call them self PvPers and hunt the defenseless.
Hate the game, not the playa, fool
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:25:58 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:I just hate people that call them self PvPers and hunt the defenseless. Even when the "defenseless" won't even take the time to bother defending themselves?
If a hockey team took to the ice but after the whistle didn't bother to go after the puck, but rather just stood around doing nothing, would you boo them or the team that was scoring all the goals against them?
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:29:11 -
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Black Pedro wrote:GhostOfDoom wrote:I just hate people that call them self PvPers and hunt the defenseless. Even when the "defenseless" won't even take the time to bother defending themselves? If a hockey team took to the ice but after the whistle didn't bother to go after the puck, but rather just stood around doing nothing, would you boo them or the team that was scoring all the goals against them? Wrong response.
He does not understand what PvP means and believes it has something to do with the other side being on equal terms somehow.
Space Honour. Wannabe good people usually have fake honour and assume everyone should have it, because it allows them to pretend that they are strong, good people.
You should read what he says, not what he thinks he says. |

Sol Project
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:34:10 -
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For some odd reason it's mostly those who don't understand the what PvP and PvE means ... ... who somehow believe that it's a badge one wears that tells everyone what kind of person he is.
I think you people are stupid for categorising people into "PvP" and "PvE".
Talking with someone about something he has no real understanding of and rather believes he knows what he is talking about, because all those other people who have no clue say the same crap ...
... well that's not going anywhere, right? |

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:46:23 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings.
"gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...

"gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more.
I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi...
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:56:44 -
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La Rynx wrote: I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight.
Gudfites are not seen
They are experienced.
As you said yourself, you should always GF an opponent you respect
Though if you are polite you will do it to those you do not, too.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:59:42 -
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La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... I never write that. It's bullshit.
People write it after any type of combat, which completely devalues it.
Hypocrites everywhere. |

Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:02:52 -
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La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... Hey btw, how about a short, red skirt? |

Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:06:41 -
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Hm. I can see you more in black.......
Dominatrix... yeah, definitely.
Hmhmhm.
Woah, should have edited the first post instead. -.- |

Hiasa Kite
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:19:41 -
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La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... "Gf" is a simple gesture that means "no hard feelings". If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser.
Simple etiquette, really. I'm curious why you can't seem to understand that.
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GhostOfDoom
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:26:13 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... "Gf" is a simple gesture that means "no hard feelings". If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. Simple etiquette, really. I'm curious why you can't seem to understand that.
no point in trying to explain if he doesn't know by now he never will. a little respect goes along way
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
628
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:33:12 -
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La Rynx wrote:I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. I've seen it a lot in FW |

Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:39:51 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... "Gf" is a simple gesture that means "no hard feelings". If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. Simple etiquette, really. I'm curious why you can't seem to understand that. no point in trying to explain if he doesn't know by now he never will. a little respect goes along way Thanks for proving my point completely.
You are a hypocrite. |

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:47:21 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:La Rynx wrote:Then would you agree the request to the miners to type "gf" when they have been ganked by codies, serves only to to pi-ss of the miners even more? Wrong, it's simple gaming etiquette. The "gf" is a simple polite congratulatory gesture from the loser to the victor in any PvP scenario. You see it all the time at the end of any fight, "gg"'s and "gf"'s get thrown around a lot to indicate the end of the game and that there's no hard feelings. "gf" is a token of respect. No reason to gf if no fight happened. No reason to give if you do not respect your "opponent". One gives a "gf" on your own free will. Demanding it, is ridiculous...  "gf"s happen mostly in games like Battlefield, or Starcraft, not so much on MMO with the exceptions on certain arenas. Codies want to be villains, why the should they be respected? There are hard feelings and codies make a point to create them. To request for "gf" is just a way to anoy the victim more. I havent seen any gf in EvE when it comes to fight. OK, wait, on sisi... "Gf" is a simple gesture that means "no hard feelings". If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. Simple etiquette, really. I'm curious why you can't seem to understand that.
"No hard feelings" is only a part of it. But since, i explained it in detail and it is really simple, it is you that does not want to understand. Better read again.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:49:26 -
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La Rynx wrote:
"No hard feelings" is only a part of it. But since, i explained it in detail and it is really simple, it is you that does not want to understand. Better read again.
Hey now, don't ignore my blatantly stupid attempts to get closer to you! |

GhostOfDoom
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:49:49 -
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Quote:Thanks for proving my point completely.
You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black
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Sol Project
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:55:01 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:Quote:Thanks for proving my point completely.
You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black I, unlike you, am always honest. When something pisses me off, I tell it. I don't "gf" when there was no "gf". I understand what PvP means. I don't talk about how "PvPers" shoot "defenseless people" and a few posts later pretend that "respect" should be given after losing. This would include losing to a suicide gank as well, you know?
Being killed as "defenseless target" would demand a "gf" as well!
You are a hypocrite. A wannabe good person, not realising that actual good people don't pretend **** and certainly don't ignore when they are wrong about facts and rather stupidly stick to their own irrational beliefs! |

Hiasa Kite
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:59:19 -
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La Rynx wrote:[]"No hard feelings" is only a part of it. But since, i explained it in detail and it is really simple, it is you that does not want to understand. Better read again. I've reread your post, no explanation is given why etiquette wouldn't be followed. If you're referring to another post, please link it.
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GhostOfDoom
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:03:22 -
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Sol Project wrote:GhostOfDoom wrote:Quote:Thanks for proving my point completely.
You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black I, unlike you, am always honest. When something pisses me off, I tell it. I don't "gf" when there was no "gf". I understand what PvP means. I don't talk about how "PvPers" shoot "defenseless people" and a few posts later pretend that "respect" should be given after losing. This would include losing to a suicide gank as well, you know? Being killed as "defenseless target" would demand a "gf" as well! You are a hypocrite. A wannabe good person, not realising that actual good people don't pretend **** and certainly don't ignore when they are wrong about facts and rather stupidly stick to their own irrational beliefs! And post with your main, coward! blowing a miner out the sky and saying GF is bollocks as there is no fight I don't hunt miners never have never saw the point i rather lose a good fight than win a **** one so get your facts right |

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:04:20 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. What nonsense, in that case one lost and one is the loser. No need to give a good fight.
It comes all back to respect. As i explained:
codies are not perceived as "villains". "Clowns Troupe" would cover it more. Wanna-be-tough-guys going for the weakest links. Going for the weakest links is ok in the EvE sandbox, but doesn't make you heros or knights. codies lie: They say they are allways -10 and actual on the blog there is the proof that they do not. codies are not respected.
No gf!
You may insist and stomp with your feet now!

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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:04:53 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:Sol Project wrote:GhostOfDoom wrote:Quote:Thanks for proving my point completely.
You are a hypocrite. where the pot the kettle wants to call it black I, unlike you, am always honest. When something pisses me off, I tell it. I don't "gf" when there was no "gf". I understand what PvP means. I don't talk about how "PvPers" shoot "defenseless people" and a few posts later pretend that "respect" should be given after losing. This would include losing to a suicide gank as well, you know? Being killed as "defenseless target" would demand a "gf" as well! You are a hypocrite. A wannabe good person, not realising that actual good people don't pretend **** and certainly don't ignore when they are wrong about facts and rather stupidly stick to their own irrational beliefs! And post with your main, coward! blowing a miner out the sky and saying GF is bollocks as there is no fight I don't hunt miners never have never saw the point i rather lose a good fight than win a **** one so get your facts right
English isn't your first language, is it?
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7100
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:05:41 -
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La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. What nonsense, in that case one lost and one is the loser. No need to give a good fight. It comes all back to respect.
And your lack of respect for basic manners is self evident
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:08:29 -
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La Rynx wrote:You may insist and stomp with your feet now!
Why would we lower ourselves to your level?
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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GhostOfDoom
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:09:05 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:La Rynx wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:If you lose a fight, you congratulate the victor while simultaneously confirming you're not a sore loser. What nonsense, in that case one lost and one is the loser. No need to give a good fight. It comes all back to respect. And your lack of respect for basic manners is self evident
I seems the way of things these days respect is frowned upon as if it's a sign of weakness.
sad to think these people believe this to be true in real life as well
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:10:53 -
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GhostOfDoom wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: And your lack of respect for basic manners is self evident
I seems the way of things these days respect is frowned upon as if it's a sign of weakness. sad to think these people believe this to be true in real life as well
I think if you hung around with some adults you may find things are different from how you perceive them to be.
And who are "these people"?
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
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GhostOfDoom
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:11:01 -
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admiral root wrote:La Rynx wrote:You may insist and stomp with your feet now! Why would we lower ourselves to your level?
there's no point in arguing with them they wont listen or learn |
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