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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.09.11 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Hmmm... So now you're shooting 2 friendly alliances and NAP'ing with Outbreak?
If you call ganging up to shoot those friendly alliances and allowing Outbreak to operate out of your POSes "NAP'ing", I guess so...
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Castor IV
Originally by: Cloue
Then why do you need toxins help?
Well actually we where invited to the party by Innerdrive, sadly he left the party prematurely. 
The Innerdrive joke is getting old now. Why don't you go harrass D2 if there is any truth in it?
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: dan drorgar on 26/09/2006 12:06:40
Originally by: KnifeyMcShanker Edited by: KnifeyMcShanker on 26/09/2006 06:31:06 [yada yada] From now on, we will be supporting YouWhat Alliance and their cause.
I hate to see old friends set to red, but it had to be done.
I've expected you so-called "friends" to do this all along. RISE has always had a big weakness, it allowed far too many leeches like NAS, ARHO and YW in its space, leaving it vulnerable to backstabbing of this kind.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2 well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
Better check if you got podded by YW and meant to set them to -10 instead.
Not that it matters now. Contact our diplomats when you regret this decision (RISE's diplomats btw.).
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mikron Alexarr KnifeyMcShanker received an Eve-mail about us being set to -10 for the attack of an ally of RISE in a lowsec region around Mara that is notorious for PVP. There were no killmails sent. There were no names mentioned. We were simply accused, tried, and denied.
Did you even verify that the sender of that mail was in RISE? Your members seem to get a little confused sometimes. Did you bother to contact any diplomats of RISE to deal with this, who were your friends at the time according to you? You didn't even try to rectify the situation, instead you attacked a RISE hauler before you even posted here. That's not a way to treat a friendly alliance, it's simply backstabbing and it reeks of opportunism.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it. 
Do you see TOXIN POS's deployed? No Do you see TOXIN Carrier's? No Do you see TOXIN Dread's? No
So I'll quote myself from page 4
Originally by: Selpy
Simple answer.. pew pew..... zatt zatt.... boom boom.... "you got mail" *\o/*
Would you care to rephrase this now, since you:
- fielded 6 Dreads and 2 Carriers to put an undefended medium (member-owned) moon-mining POS in F7C into reinforced mode
- anchored a small Amarr POS in F7C
Not fighting for territory, yeah right. ;-)
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: EnglishBob Whisk, Fetch me my violin.
You're so sweet, but I don't really care much about a cheap moon-mining POS that we emptied in time anyway. I'm pointing out that you're contradicting yourselves. It is undisputable now that you are fighting together with -Y- for our territory and that you can forget about your reputation as a PVP corp that doesn't like alliances, territorial wars and POS warfare.
You also used to smack less, but I guess that comes with lower standards.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess
Man, you need to cut back on the haterade and just have some fun.
I am having great fun with you here on EVE-O, thank you ;-)
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Selpy Since you quoted me, I'll reply to this, and quite frankly, if you used your head for more than a hat rack, you'd see 1 simple thing staring you back in the face that show's we are not here for territory.
a) Quit the dumb smack
b) I know that you are not in alliance; you are fighting for territory nevertheless (see your corpmate's post above; yes, I know he is just trying to be silly as well)
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Randay The small pos was put up by me, as a cyno/carrier spot, just in case Rise wanted to bring it. But it seems they have more important things to do, like making forum posts about it.
We generally have more important things to do, like fighting for our territory against an inferior backstabber who would be dust without you guys coming to the rescue every time.
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if you want to join me, you can contact my recruiter, Randay. Thank you.
No chance, I'd only join corps that state their intentions in a straightforward, serious way and don't have to smack around in this clownish matter.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: dan drorgar on 01/10/2006 18:15:41
Originally by: Ilmonstre so if we shoot down a POS where RISE people hide in F7C wich is a entrence point so it would be usefull if a hostile POS would be shot down is fighting a POSwar and not killing a reinforced ss so you will either have to keep switching safespots when shivaja is in there with his carrier or just let him get away with it becouse he is protected by a POS.
*trying to understand this post without punctuation*
F7C is an entrance point to what exactly? Territory you are supposedly not fighting for?
If we needed a POS to hide at in F7C we'd probably just put up a DS one I guess.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault Welcome to being primary, Dan.
Welcome to me not caring Marko.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces ...stuff..
If you need me to explain to you the difference between "speaking for my alliance" and "speaking about my alliance", then I suggest English classes.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Selpy
Let me paint a picture for you....3 brute's walk into your house, they kick your teeth in, then go around trashing your house...are they there to take your house and claim it as thier own? no, they are there to kick your teeth in and smash your stuff, plain and simple. That's what were doing, that's what we've been doing ...and that's what we'll continue to do.
I love broken analogies. Try to complete it with the brutes defending someone else's assets, letting him into my house while they are sitting there and of course never harming him. Such sweet, caring brutes.
But it's all very pointless and silly really.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn After checking up the kid Dan, The amount of yellow lamemods in his lowslots explains his general behaviour, or lack there of.
Do you actually have a purpose with your posts or does your fingers just go nuts when you don't post?
Speaking for my alliance btw...
More lame smack and even lies from Outbreak. I'm really disappointed, in all honesty. You used to be a reputable and decent PVP corp, what the hell happend?
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
so.. you speak about your alliance (at length), but do not represent them in anyway, yet you proudly display your alliance tags under your avatar on the forums.
Yes, I am voicing my personal opinion and see no reason to hide my alliance tag. If someone in charge orders me to shut up, I probably will.
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You know what that sounds like don't you? .. a get out clause, so you can say whatever pleases you with immunity and no comeback on your beloved alliance.
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
First, my alliance doesn't own me and my value to it is my presence on the battlefield (among other things). If I harmed its reputation like all the Outbreak smackers here are doing to their corp, I would probably get kicked and seek other challenges.
How would it be more brave to remove the alliance tag? Because I would have to argue with ISD then? ;-)
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess
We ****ed in your cornflakes and you are bitter about it.
That's what it looks like from here. 
I'm so impressed with you guys. You had us all fooled, but your lame "outbreak" here on eve-o was revealing...
If you are going to throw more dirt, try to back it up, perhaps you can fool some more people that there is any substance to your smacking.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn
1. Don't ever call me a liar. The only thing I stated was regarding yellow lamemods in lowslots. Since I see them there, that wasnt a lie. It's nothing to be embarassed about, but don't call me a liar.
In the way you wrote it, it was a lie. The amount is 1 and you only ever saw 1 single killmail (that was posted twice) with me using a WCS on a Tempest, which I had to bring on my own to a nearby fight after losing 1 with hostile interceptors expected on the way.
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What's with the obsessive need to try and paint us as a none-PvP corporation? Because we shoot a pos? WHat was that in your book, NPCing?
You are painting yourselves as a corp that has resorted to dumb mud-throwing on eve-o while contradicting itself continuously, most likely because you're hired guns and don't want to admit it.
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Your urge to find something bad to say about us is pretty funny, with a twist of sad.
It's funny that you are writing this after deliberately searching for old killmails on griefwatch so you could smack me about having used WCS in the past.
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PS. IF you are right, and we are not a PvP corp...then..what the hell will happen to you guys when a PvPcorp comes along to fight you?
We will win if we have the numbers, we will lose if they have them. Simple as that. We will not posture here and we will not resort to immature mud-throwing and smacking here.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces .. yet you failed to answer the following question, Dan....
Originally by: Nez Perces
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
I would not type them unless I wanted people for some reason to think that I am speaking for my alliance. It has nothing to do with bravery.
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to me and I'm sure many others, you are abdicating responsability for your posts by hiding behind the 5 words in your signature...
It is not up to me to decide what effects my posts will have on other people. I am only making it 100% clear that my posts reflect my personal opinion and not the alliance's standpoint.
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dan drorgar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: SwindonBadger
when people say random bollax we tend to hold u to it,. u are talking for your alliance dan, they will feel it, the results of your words
So tell me, are you trying to extort my alliance to kick me or to make me shut up, or do you just need another reason to justify siding with -Y- while everyone is seeing you involved in their territorial war?
I made it clear that I voiced my personal opinion. I cannot be held responsible for whatever your hurt egos make you do, but of course I will do what my alliance asks me to while I am a member. So don't be surprised if I stop posting. ;-)
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