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Sloshy Bane
Mortiferus Punctim Mutual Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2014.12.22 04:24:57 -
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Hello everyone I recently made the switch to Linux mint 17.1 MATE and have been trying to get eve running correctly I got it installed via wine and it runs great minus the graphics everything is REALLY dark and it's hard to see anything really (minus the in-game menus, HUD and things of that nature) I also just tried installing it via playwithlinux with the same issue. Any ideas on a fix for this? you have no idea how grateful I would be. (I'm pretty new to linux so talk to me like a linux noob :) )
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:18:36 -
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What videocard do you have? What drivers do you use?
Please show output for lspci | grep VGA and glxinfo | grep string
It looks like it's maybe nouveau and no s3tc. |
Sloshy Bane
Mortiferus Punctim Mutual Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:28:27 -
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Not sure how to show the output like you asked but im using a ATI Radeon 5770 and from the driver selection window thing im using the recomened driver:
xserver.xorg-video-ati version 1:7.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 |
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:35:43 -
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Just copy and paste the commands (in italics) and post the feedback. Use the terminal.
Output would be like this:
core@CoreBox:~ > lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1) core@CoreBox:~ > glxinfo | grep string server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.4 client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation client glx version string: 1.4 OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.113 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler OpenGL version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.113 OpenGL shading language version string: 4.40 NVIDIA via Cg compiler core@CoreBox:~ >
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:38:18 -
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Sloshy Bane wrote:Not sure how to show the output like you asked but im using a ATI Radeon 5770 and from the driver selection window thing im using the recomened driver:
xserver.xorg-video-ati version 1:7.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 Just open a terminal window and type the commands. Or copypaste. Then copypaste the result. Well, ok, nevermind. Looks like AMD + opensource drivers. Try installing libtxc-dxtn. Both amd64 and i386 versions.
I think it should be called something like libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 considering mint is a flavour of ubuntu. so sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386
It's the most likely culprit because no textures would probably result in black textures, and s3tc is usually omitted by default in opensource drivers due to licensing issues. |
Sloshy Bane
Mortiferus Punctim Mutual Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:57:24 -
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it worked! Amazing. THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH. I seriously love you. (no homo) :D |
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.22 14:11:24 -
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Well done mate.
Did you switch to mint from another distro or from windows?
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Sloshy Bane
Mortiferus Punctim Mutual Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2014.12.24 08:01:07 -
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Switched from windows. ^^ |
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.24 14:27:54 -
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Sloshy Bane wrote:Switched from windows. ^^
Well double gratz for making the big switch from windows.
I am using linux mint myself, really impressed with the cinnamon desktop. All though I have heard good things about the MATE desktop, especally for people that prefered the GNOME 2 desktop to the design philosophy of GNOME 3.
If you ever wanna mix things up you should try cinnamon also, after all its only a few terminal commands away :)
How are you doing getting all the 3rd party app alternatives, such as eft, comms, jabber, fraps etc?
Regards,
Valencia Mariana
The Red Circle Inc.
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Ziku
Dominant Paradigm
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Posted - 2015.01.20 05:08:11 -
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I am having an identical issue.
I used the below command,
sudo apt-get install libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386
and my issue was resolved.
Thank you Torgeir Hekard |
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Jester Chanlin
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.25 23:06:50 -
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Valencia Mariana wrote:
How are you doing getting all the 3rd party app alternatives, such as eft, comms, jabber, fraps etc?
I'd like to know more about this as well. I can create a great non VM environment on one of my systems. Get the game working and patched. Then when I go to functional play I learn comms wont work or what not. So i have to keep Windows as the host PC and if I want to play with linux run it in VM. Of course I can't run EVE in a VM. |
Ronix Aideron
Windrammers Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:14:32 -
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I am also running Linux Mint 17.1 with Cinnamon. I have recreated a lot of functionality. My only struggle now is GTKEveMon. I can seem to find all of the packages needed to compile the source.
Teamspeak & Mumble have native Linux clients that you can install and run.
Start the day off slow and taper off from there.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron
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Jester Chanlin
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:32:10 -
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I think bluetooth was another sticking point with me. Anyone have luck with this working? |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.27 23:48:58 -
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Valencia Mariana wrote:How are you doing getting all the 3rd party app alternatives, such as eft, comms, jabber, fraps etc?
Eft: Pyfa (Python Fitting Assistant). Very similar to EFT and platform independent Comms: As said above, just use the native TS3 or Mumble client. Jabber: Pidgin is available for Linux and other OSes and supports XMPP (read: Jabber Protocol) Fraps: Have a look at this thread. I used GLC in the past and it worked well for me. Evemon: Apparently gtkevemon is alive, although I can't comment on that, I don't use Evemon or Gtkevemon.
Jester Chanlin wrote:I think bluetooth was another sticking point with me. Anyone have luck with this working?
No idea what that's got to do with anything, but from my experience, bluetooth works out of the box with *ubuntu and is better integrated and more intuitive to use than what I've seen from Windows. I suppose it depends on whether or not your particular BT device has driver support, so ymmv. |
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:05:12 -
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I faced the same issue as OP. It was partially resolved thanks to the advice given here. However, windows inside the client still don't show up, including the settings window.
Here is the command output you requested.
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8570D] server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.4 client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI client glx version string: 1.4 OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.1.0 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30 OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.0 OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
I hope you can help.
Edit: From what little I know, I suppose it is an issue with the amd-radeon GPU I recently started using. Perhaps I need a different version/different settings of wine to work with this. I had Eve running nicely on a PC using nvidia tech. |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 06:38:28 -
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I believe your problem is you have a relatively recent GPU (also, isn't 8570D a part of an APU?) and a relatively old mesa.
Mesa 10.1.0 is already a year old, and the current version is something like 10.5.6.
I suggest you first try upgrading mesa to the latest version.
Ah, and if you had an NViia GPU on the same machine, maybe try a fresh wine prefix or fiddle with various wine options (i.e. you could have been using ARB shaders or some other tweaks you forgot about). |
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.10 09:51:32 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote: Mesa 10.1.0 is already a year old, and the current version is something like 10.5.2.
I suggest you first try upgrading mesa to the latest version.
Thanks for the quick response!
I've tried upgrading mesa using the synaptic package manager, however it automatically marks several packages, including the cinnamon desktop I use, for removal. Which is irritating.
I've also tried getting help in the Linux Mint forums, but the thread I started there has yet to be approved by a a moderator.
Do you have any advice?
And thanks again, I probably wouldn't have noticed that Mesa is outdated otherwise.
Oh, and yes 8570D is part of an APU. I recently bought a new PC, plugged in my old HD containing Eve and have been trying to fix the very problems I had faced when I first started playing Eve ever since (i.e. since yesterday). |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 10:36:24 -
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Well, the reason you have an old mesa is probably because your mint is based on ubuntu 14.04 which also has that mesa version.
You could probably find an ubuntu PPA with a fresh mesa for 14.04 (there IS one with the latest mesa and all the fancy stuff like gallium-nine, which you actually can probably use. I just don't remember it's name - try googling something like mesa ppa) and try plugging it in, though I'm not sure about the consequences. You'd also probably need a fresh kernel and a fresh Xorg (obtained in the same way). Aand if you want to try gallium-nine, you'll need a wine patched for that (also available in PPAs)/
Other than that I don't really know what's the proper way to get fresh stuff on mint. Well, other than building from source. Details on http://www.mesa3d.org/install.html , but you'll probably have to read documentation about debian/ubuntu packaging before that, because you'll be replacing the existing working mesa and video drivers which is SCARY. I've only done packaging with deb-sources, and that should be different from third-party source tarballs, so I can't give advices on that. Just remember to proceed with extreme caution and be ready to spend some time in console fixing borked drivers after a particulary bad make install (should get a separate working computer for that because you'll need googles).
PS: maybe adjusting various graphics settings (like shader quality) would help? |
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.10 11:37:53 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote: maybe adjusting various graphics settings (like shader quality) would help?
I've tried adjusting the graphics settings. It's running now, the only remaining issue is that I have worse FPS than I had on my last PC, which was nine years old. I'll see if I can find a way to use more up to date graphics software. Ironically, I bought this new PC expecting better graphics performance. Boy was I wrong.
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 11:58:57 -
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Better performance with an APU and video memory taken from the main memory pool? Duh.
Though you can try gallium-nine. They say when it works, it WORKS (you may expect 50% performance increase).
Ar you may try fglrx drivers instead of opensource, but lately I don't think there's much point. |
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Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:05:50 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Better performance with an APU and video memory taken from the main memory pool? Duh.
I'm sorry. What do you mean by that? |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:08:04 -
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Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain wrote: I'm sorry. What do you mean by that?
Well, it's an integrated video chip that has to be squeezed in a certain heat package. That is, your CPU + GPU combo can't consume more than... eeehhh... 65? Or 95 watts? Consider that modern mid-range GPUs eat 250ish watts under load and think about the implications.
Also being a single APU chip it obviously lacks onboard memory, so it has to use the regular system memory for it's video memory. Which is slower in itself (GDDR5 is about 3 times faster than an average DDR3) and AFAIK with a much narrower bus width (64bit for system memory and usually 192-256bit for proper videocards).
For example, I have an HD4870 at home which is what? 7 or 8 years old. According to various online charts it should be about 2 times faster than modern integrated GPUs. |
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:45:37 -
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Because of what you said I checked again. It has 4 GB memory integrated in the APU/GPU in addition to it's 8 GB RAM.
As you can probably tell, I'm not partucularly knowledgeable about computers. Shouldn't an additional PU with 4 GB of memory help increase performance?
I'm asking because I want to find out if it's a hardware or software problem. Or if I am the problem. |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 14:56:56 -
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Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain wrote:Because of what you said I checked again. It has 4 GB memory integrated in the APU/GPU in addition to it's 8 GB RAM.
As you can probably tell, I'm not partucularly knowledgeable about computers. Shouldn't an additional PU with 4 GB of memory help increase performance?
I'm asking because I want to find out if it's a hardware or software problem. Or if I am the problem.
You can't have memory integrated into an APU. APU looks like a normal CPU. It physically has no space for a dedicated memory.
What's your full specs? |
Pippinpaddleopsicopolis Padocain
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:02:46 -
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AMD Phenom Quad-Core 4 GHz RAM 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM AMD Radeon HD 8570D, 4096 MB HyperMemory, DirectX-« 11, VGA, HDMI
I've tried following the instructions here. Which resulted in the client not worling at all.
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:26:25 -
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Ugggh. Something is wrong with those specs. HD8570D is an integrated video in, I believe, AMD Kaveri APU line. They aren't called Phenom as far as I know. The phenom line were CPUs without integrated GPUs and have been discontinued since dunnowhen (now they have FX series instead).
And yes, HyperMemory is a fancy way to say your video memory is a lie. |
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