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Maelana Black
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Maelana Black on 13/09/2006 20:40:54 Edited by: Maelana Black on 13/09/2006 20:40:22 Edited by: Maelana Black on 13/09/2006 20:38:22 My adventures in EVE.....
1) Participate in the Beta, have a great time and enjoy an epic battle when we are all given Battleships at the end, but unfortunately at the time cannot play regularly due to work commitments 2) Start playing game on trial 3) Have great time and subscribe 4) Eventually become the proud owner of a nice shiny Ferox 5) Take a mission into 0.4 space and on my return hit a gate camp with two Battleships and Heavy Combat Drones 6) Escape with pod intact, but suffer heavy losses and have to go back to my Moa and grind away for more money to pay for equipment to refit the Ferox 7) Get new Ferox fully fitted with Arbalest heavy Launchers and Prototype 250mm Railguns 8) Grind away to get 60,000 LP from my agent and the standing to use Jump Clones which I beleive will enable me to fly in low sec space with some security. 9) Find out that I can only Jump Clone once every 24 hours and so can either stay safe or add hours onto my Skill Training time 10) Decide to use an ALT. for scouting and stay using my drone with Implants 11) Attempt to do Angel Extavaganza, which I believe is cursed as everytime I have done it the server has dropped or I have lost a connection during it, clear the first room and lose my connection 12) Get my connection back half an hour later and find myself back in the staion, minus Ferox, minus 70 million + in equipment and minus +2/+3 Implants (about another 70 million) 13) Stare at the screen for awhile realising that to reach the place I once was a few minutes ago will require days of grinding again. 14) Fill out a petition 15) Read on website that it will take about 8 weeks for anything to be done, if at all 16) Take ALT into 0.0 space and pass through system after system of empty, unpopulated space and manage to mine in an Asteroid Field in my Ibis before saying "come and get me if you think you are hard enough" in local and getting shot down by a Carrier 17) Decide enough is enough, tell everyone I am leaving and give 97 million and over 600 items and ships worth about 400 million to the first person to Evemail me to say that he was sorry I was leaving. 18) Cancel subscription 19) Fly one last suicide mission deep into 0.0 space in my Ibis and go and watch TV 20) See lots of flashing coming from the direction of the computer and see that I am back in my station, minus about 50,000 SP (she had 970,000) 21) Go outside and target the nearest ship (sorry about that) and after I get one shot off, get killed by a Sentry Gun. 22) Get bored trying to end it all and delete EVE off my harddrive instead. 23) Think that in eight days I could have been flying a Raven (would have ben six if I had not lost all my implants) 24) Write my one and only forum entry and expect the usual replies from the Fanboys. 25) Goodbye 26) Realise that most people don't actually read what you put and expect 50 replys saying "can I have your stuff"
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Darksaber64x
Jump Cloneses
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:36:00 -
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Interesting... don't know how you would get podded while doing a mission though
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FosterK
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: FosterK on 13/09/2006 20:39:45 Sorry to hear it went so bad for you :/
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:38:00 -
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just wire me youre assets thx and bye sorry to see u go
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Eternal Fury
Caldari Shadow Of The Light
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:38:00 -
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ok. First.
why are you leaving?
you sound like you had basically the same experience we all had the first few times we went to 0.0.
Are you quitting because you lost so much? Becuase you found the game boreing? Because of lag?
You didn't give any good reason for quitting.
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Ozawi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:38:00 -
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Good luck. ------------------------------------------------ This sig is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine alone. Mods keep out, or I will drop trou and sprinkle some tinkle in your Cheerios! |
Sakamoto Maya
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:40:00 -
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You should try WoW. I think it will be better for you.
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Anti Protagonist
Gallente Archron Dusyfe Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:44:00 -
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I read it, I just happen to be at work and can't send you the eve mail. ;)
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:46:00 -
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try WOW its risk frree
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Darksaber64x Interesting... don't know how you would get podded while doing a mission though
You can't.
I'm sorry, I think that
A: You really should have considered insurance, as your losses would have been negligable.
B: You don't have to grind for months if you use your brain for a few seconds.
C: If you were part of a good corp, or started one, you probably would not be in this situation to begin with.
D: I have trouble taking your post seriously, due to the fact that your story has a hole or two in it. You are either exaggerating the facts, or are a troll looking to get a rise out of people.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:02:00 -
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I'd have to agree with the OP on this one.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:06:00 -
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its a humerous post
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Winter QC
Amarr Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:08:00 -
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Good luck to you.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord try WOW its risk frree
WHATEVER! You have to run like 45 seconds to go get your body... What a drag! I quit counterstrike too because you always had to wait for the WHOLE round to end. I couldn't handle it, even though I was the pwnz0r with teh l337 sk1llz
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Moghydin
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:13:00 -
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Sorry to hear that those things happened to you, but:
1) joining a good corp could have saved you a lot of trouble (like shooting someone in front of a sentry gun for example) in the 1-st place. Eve is not a solo game
2) don't take into low sec what you can't afford to lose. When I undock in a ship in low sec or 0.0 I already view this ship as potentially lost, because eventually it happenes to every ship.
3) you shouldn't rush to fly a battleship, because if you do, you'll find out that this bs sucks, but the only thing that suck will be your skills. Train all supplementary skills needed and only then train for a battleship itself.
4) didn't know you can get podded by npc's on a mission
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:16:00 -
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The risk of losing it all is exactly why I play this game.
PVP is lot more fun when one person is going home in tears, sans many millions in ship value. It really adds an element of tension and adventure.
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Norma Stitz
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:26:00 -
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See you in a couple of monjths mael
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Yotah
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord try WOW its risk frree
Ah! I was wondering where most of the UO PK scum went to... The cretins are now playing EVE!
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loony zoon
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:29:00 -
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You care enough to rant.
What other game is going to make you care that much ?
We'll be seeing you soon
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:32:00 -
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75% of the OP makes no sense at all...
Your losses were ridiculously small compared to just about everything else you COULD have lost.
A tech 1 BC... ? OMG no!
Podded on a mission? nope... (low sec mission running, got ganked, tried to log off.. podded? upset?)
TBH this is quite funny
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LaCoHa
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:32:00 -
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man i allways joke about leaving.. didnt think it was actually possible.
haha
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: loony zoon You care enough to rant.
What other game is going to make you care that much ?
We'll be seeing you soon
QFT. Also with Eve, the best way to play is just to keep subscribing and only ever log-in to change skill training. You cause no server lag, CCP get their money and you have a good skilled-up character ready for when the game becomes fun at some indeterminate point in the future. Also remember: without that subscription, you can't whine on the forums - which imho is the absolute most fun you can have in Eve.
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Maelana Black
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:36:00 -
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One more post then just to clarify why I am leaving and clear up any confusion on my original post.
I'm not leaving because I died in 0.0 space, I just went there for fun in an Ibis. I was killed both times in Nalvula whilst trying to do Agent missions, not from NPC's (lvl 3 missions are too easy to die), but first from gate campers and second from a gang of three, one with a bounty of over 10 million, but as my connection had dropped I didn't witness it, but I was told that my ship still stays in the game even when you are logged out.
Everyone says I should have turned down the missions, but I would have been hated by all the Agents if I had done that.
The game is very enjoyable, but I can't understand the mentality of the people who destroy your ship and pod you because they have been in the game for a while and are flying Battleships, after all what do they want with my junk when they can afford T2 stuff.
Are people so pathetic that they can only pick on the weak and defenceless? Sounds a bit too much like real life for my liking.
Of course my ship was insured, but a 23 million return on a Ferox does not cover the 140 million of lost implants and equipment or the 7.2 million to re-insure it and
who said anything about grinding for months, my character was only just over a month old, well, I was expecting the fanboys, but only one, I will have to try harder
Yes, my post was supposed to be humerous, but factual, after all it is only a game, one I thought I would be enjoying for a long time, but ultimately as I like to solo most of the time, one in which I don't think has any future for me due to the actions of others.
I was very much planning on PvPing as soon as I could cover any losses and be competitive, but as I was setup for rat specific fights and not able to fight back I find it a bit lame and unsportsman like
So I suppose the ultimate question has to be "why are complete beginners made to go into lowsec space in order to complete missions when they are not ready and why, if they cancel the mission do they lose such high standing"? (even though I had never cancelled a mission before I went from 9.1 to 8.8 standing when I cancelled the mission I lost my ship in)
I guess I am a bit disapointed as I very much fell in love with the genre when I first played "Elite" way back when on the BBC Micro Model B and this brought back the good times I had playing it, but at least I only had to worry about Thargoids and not every little schoolboy who thinks that somehow killing someone 3 on 1 while scrambling and jamming them makes them good players.
For those that understand, I thank you for your kind words
Good hunting
Over and Out
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:36:00 -
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Quote: 5) Take a mission into 0.4 space and on my return hit a gate camp with two Battleships and Heavy Combat Drones 6) Escape with pod intact, but suffer heavy losses and have to go back to my Moa and grind away for more money to pay for equipment to refit the Ferox 7) Get new Ferox fully fitted with Arbalest heavy Launchers and Prototype 250mm Railguns 8) Grind away to get 60,000 LP from my agent and the standing to use Jump Clones which I beleive will enable me to fly in low sec space with some security.
So, let me get this straight. As soon as you lose your old Ferox, you start working for a new one - and because apparently you're so expert at surviving, you decide to kit it out in expensive gear (with a fit that ensures you have a trashy ferox, no less).
Then because you hate grinding so much, and have such a history of fiskal wisdom, you get pricey implants and decide to grind for massive standing with an NPC faction. Because cheaper implants or doing your research for stations that don't require NPC-standing to jumpclone would be nuts.
I really don't think you hate EvE. I think you hate yourself. Part of the amazing thing about EvE is that making irrational decisions actually has the potential to hurt you in the long run.
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Yotah
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Moghydin Sorry to hear that those things happened to you, but:
1) joining a good corp could have saved you a lot of trouble (like shooting someone in front of a sentry gun for example) in the 1-st place. Eve is not a solo game
Sorry Moghydin, but this is just not so. According to official EVE website, this is what it says about soloing: "However, the level at which each player decides to participate is a matter of personal choice. The game leaves ample room for continual progress and variety in all its solo playing aspects. For those who opt to do so, becoming the best lone-wolf pirate or bounty hunter is a never-ending task as the competitors are other human players who will employ every method at their disposal to gain an edge over the rest. Solo players are also able to hire out their services as mercenaries or hit men to other players or player-run corporations."
According to CCP, EVE is suppose to be solo-friendly. If players are forced to join Corps to gain access to low security sectors, in any reasonable degree, then CCP ought to knock off the solo-friendly line!
By the way, I LOVE your sig! Babylon 5 is/was such an awsome series! Almost as good as Firefly!
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Anti Protagonist
Gallente Archron Dusyfe Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:46:00 -
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You can turn down the mission before you accept it for no standing loss once per (some time period I'm forgetting at the moment, but it will warn you if you're going to lose standing because it was too soon). If you fail a mission (which is what you did when you lost the first ferox), then you always lose standing. On the other hand, you could have kept the mission, gotten your new ferox, gone back and done the mission (so long as it wasn't over a week) and only lost the time bonus.
As far as pirates and low sec.... That's a huge part of the game. If you don't like that risk, you have the option of only staying in high sec or not playing. Sorry, I'm not trying to sound harsh here, that's just the reality of the game. There's a lot you can do to avoid running into trouble in low sec. I'm frequently in and out of low sec myself and I haven't lost a ship in months due to a gate camp or pirates. And that's not because I haven't seen them or been in situations where I could have.
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Yotah
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kaiu 75% of the OP makes no sense at all...
The OP is rather clear in the post. Maybe you just can't read...?
Quote: Your losses were ridiculously small compared to just about everything else you COULD have lost. A tech 1 BC... ? OMG no!
You obviously can't read. The OP only has 900k SP. This means a T1 BC is a big deal. Not everyone is as l33t and roxxor as your attitude... but I'm sure you make it up with your personality.
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Sakamoto Maya
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sakamoto Maya on 13/09/2006 21:51:12
Originally by: Maelana Black One more post then just to clarify why I am leaving and clear up any confusion on my original post.
I'm not leaving because I died in 0.0 space, I just went there for fun in an Ibis. I was killed both times in Nalvula whilst trying to do Agent missions, not from NPC's (lvl 3 missions are too easy to die), but first from gate campers and second from a gang of three, one with a bounty of over 10 million, but as my connection had dropped I didn't witness it, but I was told that my ship still stays in the game even when you are logged out.
Everyone says I should have turned down the missions, but I would have been hated by all the Agents if I had done that.
The game is very enjoyable, but I can't understand the mentality of the people who destroy your ship and pod you because they have been in the game for a while and are flying Battleships, after all what do they want with my junk when they can afford T2 stuff.
Are people so pathetic that they can only pick on the weak and defenceless? Sounds a bit too much like real life for my liking.
Of course my ship was insured, but a 23 million return on a Ferox does not cover the 140 million of lost implants and equipment or the 7.2 million to re-insure it and
who said anything about grinding for months, my character was only just over a month old, well, I was expecting the fanboys, but only one, I will have to try harder
Yes, my post was supposed to be humerous, but factual, after all it is only a game, one I thought I would be enjoying for a long time, but ultimately as I like to solo most of the time, one in which I don't think has any future for me due to the actions of others.
I was very much planning on PvPing as soon as I could cover any losses and be competitive, but as I was setup for rat specific fights and not able to fight back I find it a bit lame and unsportsman like
So I suppose the ultimate question has to be "why are complete beginners made to go into lowsec space in order to complete missions when they are not ready and why, if they cancel the mission do they lose such high standing"? (even though I had never cancelled a mission before I went from 9.1 to 8.8 standing when I cancelled the mission I lost my ship in)
I guess I am a bit disapointed as I very much fell in love with the genre when I first played "Elite" way back when on the BBC Micro Model B and this brought back the good times I had playing it, but at least I only had to worry about Thargoids and not every little schoolboy who thinks that somehow killing someone 3 on 1 while scrambling and jamming them makes them good players.
For those that understand, I thank you for your kind words
Good hunting
Over and Out
You seem to have zero ability to adapt. If you see something doesn't work, try another way! Plus, you are not forced to go into low-sec. It was your choice. A mere .3 decrease in standing is nothing. You can cover that loss with a few completed missions. Heck, if you don't want to go into low sec for a mission, you don't even have to accept the mission. Now I'm afraid WoW might even be too hard for you.
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:50:00 -
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You don't lose any standing for declining missions (as long as you only do one every 12 hours IIRC or something in that ballpark), you do however lose standing for failing/canceling missions.
As you hopefully realize, there are a plethora of agents in different locations, of differing qualitys and whatnot. Going to low security is a choice. As is fitting expensive gear and implants. You can choose to forfeit either of the two until you have a good concept of local/scanner/warpalignment. Or you can at least learn to use your tools before venturing into combat.
There is also an onliners map, you don't have to fly through 0.0 to trial and error which systems are empty. Station systems are heavily populated, the rest are usually only trafficked. Trafic moves quickly, leaving local empty most of the time although the lanes themselves are busier than most of low security empire.
Anyways, you're frustrating yourself by being thickheaded and dramatic about setbacks. EvE is not nearly as harsh as you're trying to make it sound.
Edit : As for why you got shot : Opportunity. You admitted yourself that your equipment was very well worth shooting you for, and so is alot of other peoples. Hence why camps are setup - to catch the heavily underprepared, blow them up and take their cargo. As a rule of thumb, why would anyone not intent on being your friend not blow you up, when you offer the opportunity? (Particularly as you have many ways of preparing, MWDS/ECM/Stabs/Local/Instas etc)
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.13 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Yotah
Sorry Moghydin, but this is just not so. According to official EVE website, this is what it says about soloing: "However, the level at which each player decides to participate is a matter of personal choice. The game leaves ample room for continual progress and variety in all its solo playing aspects. For those who opt to do so, becoming the best lone-wolf pirate or bounty hunter is a never-ending task as the competitors are other human players who will employ every method at their disposal to gain an edge over the rest. Solo players are also able to hire out their services as mercenaries or hit men to other players or player-run corporations."
How is the ease of evasion, a global intel system that only reliably shows significant numbers or people residing in the same system for extended periods of time and a combat system that favors the aggressor (that includes being disfavorable towards campers, who are defenders) solo-unfriendly?
I've been there, done that (am still doing it) and solo in very hostile space, in a 1-man corporation, with no real income and definitely not a single soul to back me up. Without altscouting too. Short of having a consentual 1v1 arena, it doesn't get much more solofriendly.
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