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Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.02 11:56:48 -
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Hey guys,
I have 5,8mil sp in guns and ZERO in missiles. I do not intent to train missiles at all so I am looking for a faction warfare mission ship that uses guns.
I am thinking about getting a Loki but are there any other options? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.02 12:23:19 -
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oh wow, loki would be a longer term plan
think thrasher>stabber>hurricane>hac and then maby t3.
i dont fly minmatar in particular but for any other race thers a progressioin of anolougs you should fly before you get into a t3
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.02 12:36:29 -
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I am gallente and Minmatar skilled.
My end goal is doing the lvl 4's and most people recommend stealth bombers. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.02 12:39:49 -
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To PvP in or farm in ?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.02 12:42:10 -
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Farm the missions with, I am now pvping in all kinds of ships. |
Torothin
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
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Posted - 2015.01.02 14:29:25 -
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Mach is the best option. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.02 18:59:35 -
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Torothin wrote:Mach is the best option. Thanks and what kind of fit would I need? Arty or auto cannon mach? |
Torothin
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
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Posted - 2015.01.02 19:13:05 -
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800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster. |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.02 23:37:40 -
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Torothin wrote:800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster. nice trolling or do u do faction warfare missions in low with that |
Torothin
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
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Posted - 2015.01.03 01:25:13 -
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:Torothin wrote:800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster. nice trolling or do u do faction warfare missions in low with that
I run 0.0 angel missions with that. Get on my level pubbie. |
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Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:54:16 -
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Fair enough....
Anyone else? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the Loki. |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:08:39 -
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Min kuvien wrote:Fair enough....
Anyone else? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the Loki.
Loki is great. I lose em all the time.
SB is better. Launch torps from 74km away and blitz the missions.
If you use Loki either it will be a brawler, and in the fight, means tanking as well as killing. Or you use Arties and kite as best you can. But if people catch on you are doing it, thats a fat kill for them.
Torpedo launching SB can get in and out of missions faster. Just saying. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:18:04 -
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Fair enough though a arty loki with big AB should run through them?
And I don't feel like wasting 3mil sp on the missile skill that I will never use besides the missioning. |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:34:56 -
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I will check my Arty Loki and get back to you. The key would be range - how many computers is it going to take to kite/blitz. Next would be survivability against other players - FW attracts a lot of pirates that specialize in killing FW players. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:33:39 -
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Sweet, I guessed a Loki would blitz them and with a web still viable to kill somthing smaller if it gets into the mission. |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:11:29 -
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I give up. Trying to fit a Loki to shoot out to 70 km is giving me a headache.
My best guess would be to get a Tornado.
See the thing is. A SB shoots torpedo's. Torpedo's are very powerful. You can blitz the missions easily. And you are using a ship designed to shoot the torpedo's very well. Plus you can fly around lowsec in a cov-ops really well and survive.
Whereas a Tornado would be a much bigger target. A Tornado kiting in missions will be easily tackled by ships specifically designed to do their work. Then the other small ships will easily swarm you and surgically cut you wide open.
FW players tend to dislike Tornados anyway because they sit at Amamake and snipe FW frigs.
You might get away with this though because Minmatar faction warfare sucks at the moment. So likely people will be paying more attention to where the action is at, rather than what one solo player is doing.
The more you get into this the more precise you will become. Be very careful. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:58:55 -
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I am flying with Amarr by the way. |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:46:39 -
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Min kuvien wrote:I am flying with Amarr by the way.
Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT?
Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc. |
Nightingale Actault
Big Richard Club Ghosts of Deep Space
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:23:05 -
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OP a Loki could and will work, however if you're going for a cloaky (for FW safe travel) I'd recommend the Stratios. It's not as much of a gun ship as it may be a drone ship, however, you still can still use lasers at least. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:27:22 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Min kuvien wrote:I am flying with Amarr by the way. Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT? Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc.
Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank. |
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Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:44:59 -
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Have you done FW before? This is sparse but give an idea:
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=FactionalWarfare |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.03 20:42:45 -
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Min kuvien wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Min kuvien wrote:I am flying with Amarr by the way. Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT? Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc. Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank.
What I would do is focus purely on DPS and range to 74km. Everything else because you may have to tank - likely tank other players more than the NPCs.
Check out the SB on your tools. Build it up to range at 74km. What is the DPS? Because that is what you are going for with a T3. The SB has a very fragile tank, so you are already ahead in that department. Along with the cloak.
I think your best bet is going to be a speed tank, because you are on your toes and alert anyway.
Check out the missions on eve-survival as well. Gauge what you are going to have to do to blitz those missions.
Everything EVERYTHING in Eve is a lot harder than it is on paper - remember that.
Also remember if I go back to FW (not likely - I like my Alliance) I am your worst enemy. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:22:07 -
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You could of course team up with other people and run them in assault frigates. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.04 08:33:40 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Min kuvien wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Min kuvien wrote:I am flying with Amarr by the way. Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT? Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc. Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank. What I would do is focus purely on DPS and range to 74km. Everything else because you may have to tank - likely tank other players more than the NPCs. Check out the SB on your tools. Build it up to range at 74km. What is the DPS? Because that is what you are going for with a T3. The SB has a very fragile tank, so you are already ahead in that department. Along with the cloak. I think your best bet is going to be a speed tank, because you are on your toes and alert anyway. Check out the missions on eve-survival as well. Gauge what you are going to have to do to blitz those missions. Everything EVERYTHING in Eve is a lot harder than it is on paper - remember that. Also remember if I go back to FW (not likely - I like my Alliance) I am your worst enemy.
But these are still no real numbers: how much dps does the rats do at certain ranges? How much dps I have to do to kill the triggers in a reasonable amount of time? And if you go back to fw: I couldn't care more..
Hasikan Miallok wrote:You could of course team up with other people and run them in assault frigates. And being dependend everyday on other people, not somthing I will look forward to..
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Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.04 09:55:06 -
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http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png
Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..
And still mid slot over, what to put there? |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.04 11:43:16 -
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Min kuvien wrote:http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png
Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..
And still mid slot over, what to put there?
Tracking computer with tracking scripts or optimal range scripts. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:12:54 -
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Nice one forgot about that, will fit a SB and see what dps that has.. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:48:28 -
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Min kuvien wrote:http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png
Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..
And still mid slot over, what to put there?
ECM Burst ??
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.01.05 00:24:12 -
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Min kuvien wrote:I am flying with Amarr by the way.
Hound or ishtar with bouncers.
Just make sure you travel fit between missions, and scout if you are using an ishtar, Mobile depots FTW. |
Min kuvien
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.05 06:38:39 -
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Ishtar is also option, not that great of drone skills.. How about a sniping cane? |
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