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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:55:16 -
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So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! Running Multi Accounts and alts is, I dont Mind paying Subs But waitinng 10 years and payinng 2-3 billionn just to pilot my blingships just like your Hyped out trailers is crazy well at least I got free fireworks and Pirate outfit for free. meannwhile im stuck flying a atron after 3 years this game it dost make sense owning anything else but cheap crappy ships and forced to play in some Corp of retards flyinng there borinng doctrines. No love For The Free and Independent Solo Multibbbox sandbox Player to runn a fleet by themselves (would cost 600-1000k A month overall this game is great I just hate b eing forced to be part of some collective blobb I wannt my own Ball of death my own Blobb my own Sovereignty..BBut Not Pay 20k to do it!
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1124
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:59:32 -
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GTFO
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
202
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:01:17 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! Running Multi Accounts and alts is, I dont Mind paying Subs But waitinng 10 years and payinng 2-3 billionn just to pilot my blingships just like your Hyped out trailers is crazy well at least I got free fireworks and Pirate outfit for free. meannwhile im stuck flying a atron after 3 years this game it dost make sense owning anything else but cheap crappy ships and forced to play in some Corp of retards flyinng there borinng doctrines. No love For The Solo Multibbbox Player to runn a fleet by themselves (would cost 600-1000k A month overall this game is great I just hate b eing forced to be part of some collective blobb I wannt my own Ball of death my own Blobb my own Sovereignty..BBut Not Pay 20k to do it! Yeah, "unfortunately" for that, eh?
You're going to probably have to rethink how you're playing if you want to own Sovereignty, and you're only supposedly flying an Atron... After three years of play. |
Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction Gears Confederation
98
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:02:01 -
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I think you need to spend your money for a psychiatrist.
Dude, where is my Quafe Megathron?
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:02:09 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:GTFO I
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Mag's
the united
18463
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:02:38 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:GTFO
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Johnson Stroker
Stroker Corporation Holdings LLC Hybrid-Synergy Authority
1
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:05:05 -
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Their are like minded individuals like yourself out there. Find them, Unite, Fight for it. Nothing is gonna be given to you. |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
2728
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:05:54 -
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Suddenly my head hurts.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
GSLLC Recruitment
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Mag's
the united
18463
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:08:05 -
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Azda Ja wrote:Suddenly my head hurts. Those Cornrow plaits, may be a little too tight.
Nah what am I saying, he nuts.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
370
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:09:08 -
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If you want your own everything, go play a single player game
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
66
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:11:23 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!!
AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!!
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
370
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:15:52 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
66
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:18:53 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings
Are you being sarcastic? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
203
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:26:53 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings Are you being sarcastic? You can change the CSPA charge to 0 for players sending you mail. So yeah, it depends on the settings of the player you're sending it to. Unless you know that already, and posted as a joke. In that case, damn AS. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:29:43 -
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This is why Eve will only have 500 viewers On twitch tv vs 100k Daily because all of you old Bitter Corps dont wanna change fine with me I shop somewhere else go ahead wait 10 years just to train for virtual ships as much as your car or mortgage Good luck getting or keeping New Players yes it is Dark In Here Maybbe its Time to Cut My loss ANd GTFO!!!! ya Right Fat Chance!!!!! ;):):):) your just goinng have to live With us The Crendravens Donnt worry i cann afford this it will be my Pleasure...http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/c/5795626
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
370
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:30:25 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings Are you being sarcastic? No. I'm assuming you are referring to the CSPA charge when sending a mail in-game, which can be set to 0 within the mail settings (open mail, press the options button in the top left, open Settings).
The reason this option is here is to prevent spam by bots, however most players have set the charge to 0. You can also increase the default price.
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1734
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:33:08 -
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You're looking for a single player game.
Witty Image - Stream
Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:36:12 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings Are you being sarcastic? No. I'm assuming you are referring to the CSPA charge when sending a mail in-game, which can be set to 0 within the mail settings (open mail, press the options button in the top left, open Settings). The reason this option is here is to prevent spam by bots, however most players have set the charge to 0. You can also increase the default price. Are You Kidding Me ?????????You Cant Troll a TRoll;)
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Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:36:20 -
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You do realize if your willing to just plop down money for entertainment you can buy plex then sell it for isk. Then take your isk and just buy a already trained character, bypas the whole waiting period altogether. |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
66
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:39:37 -
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OK!!!
Based on the OP, as well as intelligent responses to the OP, as well as intelligent responses to my response to the Op, I believe I have enough "evidence" to prove Eve players have a tendency to go "postal".
I have been playing Eve for 6 years. I have a kill-board. I am in a Corp. I have 66 likes. Come on people. OF COURSE I was joking!!
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
203
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:46:21 -
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Kharaxus wrote:OK!!!
Based on the OP, as well as intelligent responses to the OP, as well as intelligent responses to my response to the Op, I believe I have enough "evidence" to prove Eve players have a tendency to go "postal".
I have been playing Eve for 6 years. I have a kill-board. I am in a Corp. I have 66 likes. Come on people. OF COURSE I was joking!!
Just checkin'. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:48:13 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:You do realize if your willing to just plop down money for entertainment you can buy plex then sell it for isk. Then take your isk and just buy a already trained character, bypas the whole waiting period altogether. Even more expensive!!!!! I Dont Mind paying I can afford this however the average Joe cant so it going to alienate alot of poor folk you feel me? So that means our playerbase will stay at 50k daily for the next 10 years.
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
370
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:49:33 -
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Kharaxus wrote:OK!!!
Based on the OP, as well as intelligent responses to the OP, as well as intelligent responses to my response to the Op, I believe I have enough "evidence" to prove Eve players have a tendency to go "postal".
I have been playing Eve for 6 years. I have a kill-board. I am in a Corp. I have 66 likes. Come on people. OF COURSE I was joking!!
A joke has to be funny before you can call it a joke. But yeah you're a real pro if you have 66 likes in 6 years.
inb4 I thought it was funny
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
370
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:52:04 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Sugar Smacks wrote:You do realize if your willing to just plop down money for entertainment you can buy plex then sell it for isk. Then take your isk and just buy a already trained character, bypas the whole waiting period altogether. Even more expensive!!!!! I Dont Mind paying I can afford this however the average Joe cant so it going to alienate alot of poor folk you feel me? So that means our playerbase will stay at 50k daily for the next 10 years. Average Joes don't want to be their own ball of death.
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
66
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:55:32 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:[quote=Sugar Smacks] the average Joe cant so it going to alienate alot of poor folk you feel me? So that means our playerbase will stay at 50k daily for the next 10 years.
The average Joe that has been alienated tends to "re-write" the rules of war.
Boston Tea Party anybody? |
Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
67
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:56:28 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:OK!!!
Based on the OP, as well as intelligent responses to the OP, as well as intelligent responses to my response to the Op, I believe I have enough "evidence" to prove Eve players have a tendency to go "postal".
I have been playing Eve for 6 years. I have a kill-board. I am in a Corp. I have 66 likes. Come on people. OF COURSE I was joking!!
A joke has to be funny before you can call it a joke. But yeah you're a real pro if you have 66 likes in 6 years. inb4 I thought it was funny
Yea Im not the forum warrior other people strive to be. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:22:31 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Sugar Smacks wrote:You do realize if your willing to just plop down money for entertainment you can buy plex then sell it for isk. Then take your isk and just buy a already trained character, bypas the whole waiting period altogether. Even more expensive!!!!! I Dont Mind paying I can afford this however the average Joe cant so it going to alienate alot of poor folk you feel me? So that means our playerbase will stay at 50k daily for the next 10 years. Average Joes don't want to be their own ball of death. Average Middle class (if That even exists anymore) The rich are geting richer annd the poor even poorer. What Im saying Our Eve community needs to stop this 20% thinking and theHell with the 90% mentality bottom line we need more players and CCP needs to reduce 50% to 75% of the costs in this game for it to grow also add a first person shooter Perspective for our Pilots to engage each other PVP on the planets annd we need hell more PVE Conntent thats more Immersive instead of the Grind (thats for another thread.) However The average Joes may not want there own ball of the death... the fact is I assure you they ant damn paying for one.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1127
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:23:21 -
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The average joe has to slog uphill through fire like the rest of us to get where he's going. It literally builds character. Patience and learning are intrinsic to success, there is no 'I WIN' button. What you want is not EVE. Just checked your poast history, and yeah. The door is that way. -> Give your stuff to Unsuccessful At Everything on the way out, because I surely do not want it.
Also. Just NO. Seriously. You are bad, and you should feel bad for how bad you are.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Wendrika Hydreiga
220
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:24:13 -
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Have you, like, tried using just one character and one account?
I mean, how hard could it be? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
204
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:28:17 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Sugar Smacks wrote:You do realize if your willing to just plop down money for entertainment you can buy plex then sell it for isk. Then take your isk and just buy a already trained character, bypas the whole waiting period altogether. Even more expensive!!!!! I Dont Mind paying I can afford this however the average Joe cant so it going to alienate alot of poor folk you feel me? So that means our playerbase will stay at 50k daily for the next 10 years. Average Joes don't want to be their own ball of death. Average Middle class (if That even exists anymore) The rich are geting richer annd the poor even poorer. What Im saying Our Eve community needs to stop this 20% thinking and theHell with the 90% mentality bottom line we need more players and CCP needs to reduce 50% to 75% of the costs in this game for it to grow also add a first person shooter Perspective for our Pilots to engage each other PVP on the planets annd we need hell more PVE Conntent thats more Immersive instead of the Grind (thats for another thread.) However The average Joes may not want there own ball of the death... the fact is I assure you they ant damn paying for one. >EVE is always growing. >DUST already exists (though terrible as it may be) >What you say does not reflect reality. |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
414
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:37:57 -
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Removed a flaming post and those quoting it.
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
To the OP, don't fret so much about needing multiple accounts and having to get into the big ships. I only have one account (well aside from this one lol) and I get by just fine with my three characters on it. It will likely take me a long time to get the ISK needed for the really big ships (or I could just PLEX it), not to mention the training time, but in the meantime I have my corp and alliance I belong to and I am very happy with them.
Of course I cannot name them for reasons, but I would highly recommend to the OP that you find a similar corp and alliance, one with a strong sense of community and willingness to help out all players that join them, new and old alike. Before you know it, you'll be having so much fun in the roles you can offer your corp & alliance, plus gradually expanding your ability, that you'll forget about the "mad rush to the top" until you happen to check the requirements for something and simply smile, "Oh, I can fly that now? Cool! Hey guys...."
That is why I love this game.
ISD Supogo
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:38:06 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:The average joe has to slog uphill through fire like the rest of us to get where he's going. It literally builds character. Patience and learning are intrinsic to success, there is no 'I WIN' button. What you want is not EVE. Just checked your poast history, and yeah. The door is that way. -> Give your stuff to Unsuccessful At Everything on the way out, because I surely do not want it.
Also. Just NO. Seriously. You are bad, and you should feel bad for how bad you are. Should I bring out the Violin? trust Me Lots of Patience I have And Character i dont Have to work to Hard. Yes Your right we will See Alot Of New Players Going Out The Door with this attitude .
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:40:33 -
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ISD Supogo wrote:Removed a flaming post and those quoting it. Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated. To the OP, don't fret so much about needing multiple accounts and having to get into the big ships. I only have one account (well aside from this one lol) and I get by just fine with my three characters on it. It will likely take me a long time to get the ISK needed for the really big ships (or I could just PLEX it), not to mention the training time, but in the meantime I have my corp and alliance I belong to and I am very happy with them. Of course I cannot name them for reasons, but I would highly recommend to the OP that you find a similar corp and alliance, one with a strong sense of community and willingness to help out all players that join them, new and old alike. Before you know it, you'll be having so much fun in the roles you can offer your corp & alliance, plus gradually expanding your ability, that you'll forget about the "mad rush to the top" until you happen to check the requirements for something and simply smile, "Oh, I can fly that now? Cool! Hey guys...." That is why I love this game. I agree Can I Join You?
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1127
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:53:09 -
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Most new players leave. This is simply due to the nature of EVE. The ones who stay tend to stay for a very very long time. Since you don't really seem to grasp my point, I'll put it in the same terms I've given in the past to women who were romantically interested in me, few that they were.
"If you want to be with me, be with me for who I am, not who you think I may be able to become. I am not something for you to mold into some potential ideal. If you try you will fail and experience only disappointment. If by some miracle you succeed you will have destroyed everything that made you interested in me in the first place. Both of us will be lessened. I am what I am, and will become what I will become through the course of my own decisions and experiences."
Now, think on this. This applies to EVE more than you seem to understand.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5304
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:14:10 -
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OP.
Your stuff, can I have it? As it is obvious you dont need it anyway.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1131
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:24:45 -
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Also, I'd recommend following up on Supogo's advice. Find a corp of like minded people and share the burden and joy of filling the roles with others. I would have unsubbed due to boredom if I hadn't fallen into a crew of like-minded people. The one-man army thing may be appealing, but with recent changes it's not so tenable anymore. It's also not really in the spirit of the game. Self-imposed isolationism is a road to burnout and quitting the game. Without other people to help enrich your gaming experience things get stale pretty quickly, especially if PVE is your primary concern. If PVP is what you are going for then this advice is even more important, as your multitude of alts cannot act as a forum for new ideas and tactics for you. You literally need other people for this. Sometimes the good stuff comes from your foes, other times from your allies... either way it's not about the characters so much as the people behind them.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:28:54 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Most new players leave. This is simply due to the nature of EVE. The ones who stay tend to stay for a very very long time. Since you don't really seem to grasp my point, I'll put it in the same terms I've given in the past to women who were romantically interested in me, few that they were.
"If you want to be with me, be with me for who I am, not who you think I may be able to become. I am not something for you to mold into some potential ideal. If you try you will fail and experience only disappointment. If by some miracle you succeed you will have destroyed everything that made you interested in me in the first place. Both of us will be lessened. I am what I am, and will become what I will become through the course of my own decisions and experiences."
Now, think on this. This applies to EVE more than you seem to understand. I was that new Player. In The Real world Business that dosnt make sense you want to retain customers you want them to come back .And Fans or the Loyal Eve Following CCP already knows they got that base However they want to grow and Expand Im more aligned with the vision of CCP (That is why i cotinnue to pay the Subs) .than the few corps and people that dont share or reflect that in this community (I wont mention names) was there promotions and trailers that got me interested in this game not the disappointing corps and few rotten apples however I dont mix business with Pleasure dont get me wrong it was very Poetic and romantic your Point .However I grasp More than you think.I will be Opening a gaming House in my Hood so My Team Corp People My clan I will have in Due Time we will make our own content so let the haters hate However Props to CCP The only reason i stick around is because of its Vision and there is few I like in this game(not so dark souls I wonnt mention names But Thanks for the Fireworks at dodixie on New years it was a pleasure being part of that !!!! http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/b/605522760 Little laggy But you get my Point.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1131
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:39:44 -
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Can I revert back to personal attacks now? The random caps plus the rampant 'not so much getting it as saying he gets it thing' is starting to damage my calm. At this point i'm pretty sure OP is just a self-aggrandizing twit who's begging for attention to plug his own interests. Please? I'll even be nice to Veers for a whole 24 hours if you guys will let it slide.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
204
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:40:48 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:In The Real world Business that dosnt make sense you want to retain customers you want them to come back .And Fans or the Loyal Eve Following CCP already knows they got that base However they want to grow and Expand... EVE is growing EVE is growing EVE is growing
Chribba tells us EVE is growing
So EVE is growing.
The 'this is EVE' trailer was an excellent step towards advertising what EVE is. But the core concepts of the gameplay remains the same. That's not bad business.
[Most] of us encourage new players immensely. If people don't like EVE then they leave; that's fine. There's nothing wrong with it. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:49:30 -
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Your stuff, can I have it? As it is obvious you dont need it anyway.[quote=J'Poll]OP. Sorry I already reprocessed all my Machariels
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
205
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:55:49 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:J'Poll wrote:OP.
Your stuff, can I have it? As it is obvious you dont need it anyway. Sorry I already reprocessed all my Machariels Reprocessing faction equipment is the stupidest thing I've heard all day. |
Miallia
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
738
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:57:25 -
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Kharaxus wrote: Yea Im not the forum warrior other people strive to be.
I believe in you, Kharaxus.
EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
30
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:09:39 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:In The Real world Business that dosnt make sense you want to retain customers you want them to come back .And Fans or the Loyal Eve Following CCP already knows they got that base However they want to grow and Expand... EVE is growing EVE is growing EVE is growing Chribba tells us EVE is growingSo EVE is growing. The 'this is EVE' trailer was an excellent step towards advertising what EVE is. But the core concepts of the gameplay remains the same. That's not bad business. [Most] of us encourage new players immensely. If people don't like EVE then they leave; that's fine. There's nothing wrong with it. I try To understand why People leave I pay attention to those little details that get swept under the rug those are the little cracks in the dam (Its never good when player stop subscribing).Of course Eve Is Growing due to CCPs Right choice in focusing all their resources to one Game vs scattering thier assets. really its the Patches and and new leadership and direction that brought me and alot of players back to resubscribe however we still have a long way to go as whole so i see hope and ROI in the Future Or I wouldn't waste my time posting in these forums .Im Glad Though You are part of those encouraging and helping new players(so i will give credit where due) Because they are the bread and butter especially if they stay long enough to really enjoy this great military SCi Fi MMO.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:13:33 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:J'Poll wrote:OP.
Your stuff, can I have it? As it is obvious you dont need it anyway. Sorry I already reprocessed all my Machariels Reprocessing faction equipment is the stupidest thing I've heard all day. You Either really Took me serious or i assume you being sarcastic if Not The Cracks In The damn are Bigger than i thought.
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:17:22 -
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Gotta agree with OP. EVE isn't so much a sandbox as a pay to win game where you need multiple accounts to do anything pretty much anything.
Pity the silly clowns that make this crusty old paper/rock/scissors game their life and live on the forums. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
7425
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Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! Running Multi Accounts and alts is, I dont Mind paying Subs But waitinng 10 years and payinng 2-3 billionn just to pilot my blingships just like your Hyped out trailers is crazy well at least I got free fireworks and Pirate outfit for free. meannwhile im stuck flying a atron after 3 years this game(just Kidding) it dost make sense owning anything else but cheap crappy ships and forced to play in some Corp of retards flyinng there borinng doctrines. No love For The Free and Independent Solo Multibbbox sandbox Player to runn a fleet by themselves (would cost 600-1000k A month overall this game is great I just hate b eing forced to be part of some collective blobb I wannt my own Ball of death my own Blobb my own Sovereignty..BBut Not Pay 20k to do it!
After reading this, I feel that you could have a lucrative career in writing Nigerian scam spam.
Look at his fine piece of English language mutilation that I received just today and tell me it's not perfect for your style.
Scammer wrote:HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I AM SORRY TO TELL YOU IF THIS IT'S NOT TRUE, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MILLER GARY, HERE IN MY DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING WITH UNKNOWING NUMBER CONFIRMING THAT YOU ARE DEAD. HOWEVER, HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT MY DEPARTMENT SHOULD SEND HIM YOUR FUNDS $1.4USD TO HIS HOME ADDRESS AS YOUR NEXT OF KIN BENEFICIARY. HE TOLD MY DEPARTMENT THAT YOU INSTRUCTION HIM TO CLAIM YOUR PROPERTIES INCLUDING YOUR INHERITANCE FUND THAT WAS DEPOSITED WITH THIS DEPARTMENT. WE ARE VERY SORRY TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE NO WHERE TO BE FOUND ON EARTH AND I DONGÇÖT KNOW WHETHER THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T REPLY THE MESSAGE I SENT TO YOU REGARDING TO BE SENDING YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT OF WESTERN UNION, WHICH WE WILL BE SENDING (2) DIFFERENT PAYMENTS EACH DAY $5000 UNTIL THE FULL PAYOUT IS RECEIVED. PLEASE YOUR URGENT RESPONSE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS. I AM HEREBY THIS WRITING PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS IS TRANSFERRED TO GARY AS NEST OF KIN IF YOU FAIL TO REPLY MY EMAIL IN 24 HOURS WITH THIS NEEDED CHARGE TO PAY.
FURTHERMORE, MR. GARY SAID HE KNOWS HE WAS GOING TO SPEND SOME OF HIS FUNDS TO RECEIVE YOUR INHERITANCE FUNDS AS YOU MENTIONED A THING LIKE THAT TO HIM AND I SHOULD LET HIM KNOW THE FEE TO BE PAID NOW, WELL, MY DEPARTMENT TOLD HIM TO WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM YOU BY EMAILING YOU RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE TO RESPONSE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS MESSAGE IS RECEIVED BECAUSE WE ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS CLAIM.
GARY SAID HE HAD THE $79 TO SEND TO ENABLE MY DEPARTMENT TO START SENDING HIM (2) DIFFERENT PAYMENTS EACH DAY $5000. THEREFORE,IF YOU FAILURE TO SEND THE $79 WITHIN 24 HOURS THEN MY DEPARTMENT WOULD RELEASE YOUR INHERITANCE PAYOUTS TO HIM, BELOW IS INFORMATION ON HOW TO SEND THE FEE AND OTHER THAN THAT WE WILL BE SENDING GARY (2) DIFFERENT PAYMENTS EACH DAY TILL THE FULL PAYOUT.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:25:10 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Gotta agree with OP. EVE isn't so much a sandbox as a pay to win game where you need multiple accounts to do anything pretty much anything.
Pity the silly clowns that make this crusty old paper/rock/scissors game their life and live on the forums. Actually, it's about team work. y'know, other people, friends (going by your name, maybe you don't know) Multiple accounts just circumvents this
I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1131
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:25:20 -
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Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:27:46 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Can I revert back to personal attacks now? The random caps plus the rampant 'not so much getting it as saying he gets it thing' is starting to damage my calm. At this point i'm pretty sure OP is just a self-aggrandizing twit who's begging for attention to plug his own interests. Please? I'll even be nice to Veers for a whole 24 hours if you guys will let it slide.
Please?Really Seriously Are You Mad Bro????Twit??Come on man No need for Insults keep it civil U made me loseShocked total respect for you
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
394
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:41:17 -
[50] - Quote
Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! Running Multi Accounts and alts is, I dont Mind paying Subs But waitinng 10 years and payinng 2-3 billionn just to pilot my blingships just like your Hyped out trailers is crazy well at least I got free fireworks and Pirate outfit for free. meannwhile im stuck flying a atron after 3 years this game(just Kidding) it dost make sense owning anything else but cheap crappy ships and forced to play in some Corp of retards flyinng there borinng doctrines. No love For The Free and Independent Solo Multibbbox sandbox Player to runn a fleet by themselves (would cost 600-1000k A month overall this game is great I just hate b eing forced to be part of some collective blobb I wannt my own Ball of death my own Blobb my own Sovereignty..BBut Not Pay 20k to do it!
Capitalism is a *****, ain't it?
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1133
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:41:33 -
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Do you have any godly idea how much effort it takes to be nice to Veers for 24 hours?
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
68
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:44:11 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Scammer wrote:Edit:........Useless all caps gibberish....... Mr Epeen
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Equinnox Dethahal
Black Anvil Industries SpaceMonkey's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:52:43 -
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Think of it this way.
Youll want to pay the $30 per account for at least three months of time.
In those three months youll want to focus on some money making activities. Get into a corp with good PI locations, get into a Navy Vexor or Ishtar or other well known isk farmer....
Then once your three months is up judge your ability to farm around 1bil a month with enough left over to play.
If you think its not going to happen then lop another $30 per account. By six months you should be able to farm the game for free.
Realistically. Getting out of high sec, into low sec FW and or null sec / WH farming should be a priority....within three months specializing into a ratting ship making that one bill should take a matter of a day or two, leaving around a full month to farm for playing.
Its that first couple months where your just going to have a awful time if you expect to farm a PLEX...give it some time and it wont be that much money....and you probably wont want to do it out in high sec alone.
People put far too much value on their money with gaming, if you can get a good three months of entertainment for $30 that's not bad at all compared to other forms of entertainment. You don't need 6 accounts to enjoy the game. One will do, two is nice.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12476
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:08:20 -
[54] - Quote
Why is this troll/rant thread still open?
Pick one. Doesn't matter which one.
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If you are reading this while being naked ... me too!!
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
68
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:12:27 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Why is this troll/rant thread still open?
Because of the title and all the griping that follows. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:35:35 -
[56] - Quote
Equinnox Dethahal wrote:Think of it this way.
Youll want to pay the $30 per account for at least three months of time.
In those three months youll want to focus on some money making activities. Get into a corp with good PI locations, get into a Navy Vexor or Ishtar or other well known isk farmer....
Then once your three months is up judge your ability to farm around 1bil a month with enough left over to play.
If you think its not going to happen then lop another $30 per account. By six months you should be able to farm the game for free.
Realistically. Getting out of high sec, into low sec FW and or null sec / WH farming should be a priority....within three months specializing into a ratting ship making that one bill should take a matter of a day or two, leaving around a full month to farm for playing.
Its that first couple months where your just going to have a awful time if you expect to farm a PLEX...give it some time and it wont be that much money....and you probably wont want to do it out in high sec alone.
People put far too much value on their money with gaming, if you can get a good three months of entertainment for $30 that's not bad at all compared to other forms of entertainment. You don't need 6 accounts to enjoy the game. One will do, two is nice.
Having 6 accounts is entertaining Im just waiting for my 2nd computer alienware I wanna have 20 more all Im asking is to reduce the price give us players 75% discount on multi subs and also make the training faster and ships cheaper so i can take on a whole fleet trust me that would make 6 oclock news 1 man corp with 1000 accounts beats goonswarm now that would be entertaining Im not knocking your style all the power to you and agree with most you posted. however i really Hate Vexors or Ishatar seem everybbody got one because thats the doctrine i just donnt like the feel what im sayinng it dont feel like a Machariel ,Dremiel or Cynabal if you kow what I mean.
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
68
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:46:04 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Having 6 accounts is entertaining Im just waiting for my 2nd computer alienware. I wanna have 20 more all Im asking is to reduce the price give us players 75% discount on multi subs and also make the training faster and ships cheaper so i can take on a whole fleet trust me that would make 6 oclock news 1 man corp with 1000 accounts beats goonswarm .now that would be entertaining !Im not knocking your style all the power to you and agree with most you posted. however i really Hate Vexors or Ishatar seem everybbody got one because thats the doctrine i just donnt like the feel what im sayinng it dont feel like a Machariel ,Dremiel or Cynabal if you kow what I mean. you gotta understand Im a Online poker player and starcraft player RTS oriented 1 accout 1 ship zzzzzzz and hearig a bunch of guys burping and talkig about whos flying P is bigger On voice comms just bores the hell out of me.
You're going to need to learn grammar before taking on a fleet of Goonswarm. A clean mind means a clean decision making process.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:55:34 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Having 6 accounts is entertaining Im just waiting for my 2nd computer alienware. I wanna have 20 more all Im asking is to reduce the price give us players 75% discount on multi subs and also make the training faster and ships cheaper so i can take on a whole fleet trust me that would make 6 oclock news 1 man corp with 1000 accounts beats goonswarm .now that would be entertaining !Im not knocking your style all the power to you and agree with most you posted. however i really Hate Vexors or Ishatar seem everybbody got one because thats the doctrine i just donnt like the feel what im sayinng it dont feel like a Machariel ,Dremiel or Cynabal if you kow what I mean. you gotta understand Im a Online poker player and starcraft player RTS oriented 1 accout 1 ship zzzzzzz and hearig a bunch of guys burping and talkig about whos flying P is bigger On voice comms just bores the hell out of me. You're going to need to learn grammar before taking on a fleet of Goonswarm. A clean mind means a clean decision making process. Ill Just Hire you! Got no time for Grammer damt Jim i ant a Eglish major I just wann fly Titans. They got rid of the clones upgrades now lets make Eve free To Play!
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
68
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:03:04 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Ill Just Hire you! Got no time for Grammer damt Jim i ant a Eglish major I just wann fly Titans. They got rid of the clones upgrades now lets make Eve free To Play!
lol
Ok Im starting to like your style.
You still have a long ways to go.
Learning some basic game mechanics is a great place to start, before you "multiply".
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Serene Repose
1992
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:06:27 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Average Joes don't want to be their own ball of death. You couldn't be more wrong. Average Joes are closet fatalists. Their only problem is, they're not sure that after they're gone somebody might blame them. So, they stick around.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
637
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:13:57 -
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Bookmarked, will read again.
"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin"
- The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:55:55 -
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Well I think its time to wrap up this Thread. I just wanna say I Love Eve Online all i ask To Eliminate the $20 Monthly Subscription And leave only Plex micro trannsaction System to buy ships at reasonable prices And Truly have a Free to Play Sci fi MMO so I can Fullfill My sandbox fantasies Of flying with 20 accounts regardless I like to end on a Good note Who Know Perhaps Ill meet My Soulmate with her 20 accounts One day multiply well untill than Peace :)
The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. Albert Einstein
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
207
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Posted - 2015.01.03 23:22:02 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Well I think its time to wrap up this Thread. I just wanna say I Love Eve Online all i ask To Eliminate the $20 Monthly Subscription And leave only Plex micro trannsaction System to buy ships at reasonable prices And Truly have a Free to Play Sci fi MMO so I can Fullfill My sandbox fantasies Of flying with 20 accounts regardless I like to end on a Good note Who Know Perhaps Ill meet My Soulmate with her 20 accounts One day multiply well untill than Peace :)
The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. Albert Einstein I know you wanted to wrap up the thread, but I just wanted to say (since nobody seems to have touched on it explicitly), you cannot remove the subscriptions costs. Are you insane? I thought you were proclaiming how a good business works just prior. How can CCP profit if there is no profit?
>Businesses need profit
>CCP gets profit mainly from subs and PLEX (which people buy from CCP to sell to other players for ISK, it's not F2P)
>Remove subscription costs
>No profit for CCP
>EVE actually dies
>Happy days. Oh wait, no it's not, there's no EVE. |
Christopher AET
hirr Northern Coalition.
880
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Posted - 2015.01.03 23:42:28 -
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OP
You being bad at the game is a you proble, not a game problem. I would ask for your stuff but I doubt there is much of value.
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
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Badel Jramodarr
1762
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:17:01 -
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My only gripe about Eve Online is: how much people gripe about Eve Online...gripe gripe gripe gripegripegripegripe
...gripe Gripe, a thin grape destined for a grassy grave
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:40:13 -
[66] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me.
You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to do anything.
In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience so much of content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people, believe it or not. |
Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:25:24 -
[67] - Quote
I personally hate tidi, i also feel it destroys an element of realism to the game. I hope they at least get to lessen it at some point. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1736
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:43:04 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You silly kids missed the point. In a singleplayer game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content.
In other singleplayer games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the singleplayerness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not.
The more suited to me EVE is, the more it will attract and maintain me. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "play a singleplayer game", you are a rational, productive, and helpful person, I should really refrain from posting. It seems some other words fit your post better, and as such I have inserted them for you.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
421
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Posted - 2015.01.04 02:40:27 -
[69] - Quote
Solops Crendraven wrote:waitinng 10 years and payinng 2-3 billionn just to pilot my blingships just like your Hyped out trailers is crazy You do realize that there are only a few ships in the game that require more than a year of training to fly well (and many ships require much less)?
I mean, I had this character in an Archon with good skills in under a year after creating it.
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:03:40 -
[70] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Well I think its time to wrap up this Thread. I just wanna say I Love Eve Online all i ask To Eliminate the $20 Monthly Subscription And leave only Plex micro trannsaction System to buy ships at reasonable prices And Truly have a Free to Play Sci fi MMO so I can Fullfill My sandbox fantasies Of flying with 20 accounts regardless I like to end on a Good note Who Know Perhaps Ill meet My Soulmate with her 20 accounts One day multiply well untill than Peace :)
The monotony and solitude of a quiet life stimulates the creative mind. Albert Einstein I know you wanted to wrap up the thread, but I just wanted to say (since nobody seems to have touched on it explicitly), you cannot remove the subscriptions costs. Are you insane? I thought you were proclaiming how a good business works just prior. How can CCP profit if there is no profit?>Businesses need profit >CCP gets profit mainly from subs and PLEX (which people buy from CCP to sell to other players for ISK, it's not F2P) >Remove subscription costs >No profit for CCP >EVE actually dies >Happy days. Oh wait, no it's not, there's no EVE. Heres a eve Qoute F-----Brilliant "Yes I know you're tackled, please die quietly" - Zagdul
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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:09:45 -
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That you have all yet to join the Project...
But once this is done ill be happy
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Keno Skir
717
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Posted - 2015.01.04 05:35:43 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Badly thought out ramblings, using the language skills of a 4 year old.
No. Everything you have posted no.
It is quite simply not at all important whether or not you get to fly loads of accounts at once. Eve costs are fine, and i think i'm right in saying that CCP will be making some changes to the multiboxing (keystroke cloning) rules to actually try to prevent people from doing what you are talking about doing. I firmly agree with this course of action and consider players like you to be one of the most irritating parts of the game .
I think the vast majority of established players would prefer the eve community to grow slowly with decent players than get cheaper and be flooded with thousands of l33t kids like almost every other unplayable MMO.
OP please consider just leaving the game alone and changing your tactics instead of trying to ruin the game to fit your PvE loving single player playstyle.
TL:DR :
Ahh shadup
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Jurico Elemenohpe
14th Legion The Bloc
68
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Posted - 2015.01.04 06:29:17 -
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wat
not sure if posting in a waah boxing banned or waah boxing thread
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.04 06:46:20 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Badly thought out ramblings, using the language skills of a 4 year old. No. Everything you have posted no. It is quite simply not at all important whether or not you get to fly loads of accounts at once. Eve costs are fine, and i think i'm right in saying that CCP will be making some changes to the multiboxing (keystroke cloning) rules to actually try to prevent people from doing what you are talking about doing. I firmly agree with this course of action and consider players like you to be one of the most irritating parts of the game . I think the vast majority of established players would prefer the eve community to grow slowly with decent players than get cheaper and be flooded with thousands of l33t kids like almost every other unplayable MMO. OP please consider just leaving the game alone and changing your tactics instead of trying to ruin the game to fit your PvE loving single player playstyle. TL:DR : Ahh shadup
This post was originally written almost three years ago and as software/hardware evolves, so must our stance on what goes within our game. It has become increasingly difficult for us to track the capabilities of various pieces of software over the years as their number, as well as the features they offer, increase greatly in number.
In other words, it is unfortunately impractical for us to evaluate whether specific pieces of software can be used without breaking EVE's EULA/ToS. This post should not be taken as endorsement for utilizing specific pieces of software/hardware with EVE, but as a guideline to what is acceptable.
Our general stance towards the concept of multiboxing has not changed but we cannot guarantee that the EULA is being upheld should you use any of the software/hardware mentioned by name in this post, nor will we at EVE customer support be able to officially endorse or sanction specific third party multiboxing programs.
Players wishing to multibox are responsible for familiarizing themselves with our EULA and Terms of Service, the following clauses in particular are of much relevance to this topic:
EULA: 6. CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct 2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. 3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
ToS: 21. You will not attempt to decipher, hack into or interfere with any transmissions to or from the EVE Online servers, nor will you try to create or use any third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game.
The old, out of date, post can be seen below as it originally appeared:
"Hello there,
To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times.
Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping).
An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time!
Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA.
I hope this clears up this matter." also I wouldnt care less if they didnt allow it . It would be cheaper for me in the Long run anyway.
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Mary Jane Moonbeam
Shiva Furnace
4
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Posted - 2015.01.04 07:06:36 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me. You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content. In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not. The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting.
You can play in EVE without playing with other people.
Then you just miss all the content that is other people. Which is most of EVE, as it appropriate for an MMO.
Pretty simple, but nobody seriously expect people like you to understand even the simplest of things.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1138
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Posted - 2015.01.04 07:07:14 -
[76] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me. You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content. In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not. The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting.
If we were discussing a game such as Freelancer, or any of the various other sandbox single player games your argument would be perfectly valid. As EVE is a MMO it is not. I have yet to encounter a MMO of ANY type that has all of it's content readily accessible for solo play. Cooperative play yields greater results, and always has. Pushing away from the social aspect of the game limits your own options, you deny yourself access to the majority of the content.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Keno Skir
717
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Posted - 2015.01.04 07:13:27 -
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Thank for the news from 3 years ago mate
Your massive copy paste of out dated information does indeed make you seem very clever..
Here's some news from 2 weeks ago.
They don't have any issue with running multiple accounts, long as you aren't keystroke cloning. For the size of "Ball" you're talking about you would require keystroke cloning software which as of 4 days ago is against that EULA you were just rubbing in my face so confidently.
Saying you don't care when you made a whole thread about how you really really do care is a bit weird isn't it. Your massive dodgy looking multiboxing installation would suggest you care a whole bunch
Gùï> 3 Week Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.04 07:28:34 -
[78] - Quote
Definition - What does Sandbox mean?
A sandbox is a style of game in which minimal character limitations are placed on the gamer, allowing the gamer to roam and change a virtual world at will. In contrast to a progression-style game, a sandbox game emphasizes roaming and allows a gamer to select tasks. Instead of featuring segmented areas or numbered levels, a sandbox game usually occurs in a GÇ£worldGÇ¥ to which the gamer has full access from start to finish.
A sandbox game is also known as an open-world or free-roaming game. Techopedia explains Sandbox
Gamers play sandbox games according to their preference. These games include structured elements GÇô such as mini-games, tasks, submissions and storylines GÇô that may be ignored by gamers. In fact, the sandbox game's nonlinear nature creates storyline challenges for game designers. For this reason, tasks and side missions usually follow a progression, where tasks are unlocked upon successful task completion.
Sandbox game types vary. Massive multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG) generally include a mixture of sandbox and progression gaming and heavily depend on emergent interactive user gameplay for retaining non-progression-focused gamers. Modern "beat 'em ups" and first-person shooters have delved more deeply into the sandbox realm with titles like the "Grand Theft Auto" series, "Red Dead Redemption," "AssassinGÇÖs Creed" and others, allowing gamers to run and gun wherever the mood takes them.
In spite of their name, various sandbox games continue to impose restrictions at some stages of the game environment. This can be due the game's design limitations, or can be short-run, in-game limitations, such as some locked areas in games that are unlocked once certain milestones are achieved
1)So The Point Is I will Play Damn well as I Please! 2)Especially If Im Paying for It. 3)What Im asking Is Simple. 4)Make Eve Free! No Subs! 5)However You gotta Pay For the Ships. 6)Im Not Ret3rd3d Of course CCP Must Get Paid!
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.04 07:32:16 -
[79] - Quote
Keno Skir wrote:Thank for the news from 3 years ago mate Your massive copy paste of out dated information does indeed make you seem very clever.. Here's some news from 2 weeks ago.They don't have any issue with running multiple accounts, long as you aren't keystroke cloning. For the size of "Ball" you're talking about you would require keystroke cloning software which as of 4 days ago is against that EULA you were just rubbing in my face so confidently. Saying you don't care when you made a whole thread about how you really really do care is a bit weird isn't it. Your massive dodgy looking multiboxing installation would suggest you care a whole bunch No problem anytime Mate!
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Obscene CSPA Charge
Lisa Needs Braces.
0
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Posted - 2015.01.04 08:25:59 -
[80] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:So Damn Bloody Expensive!!!!!! AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!! That depends on the player's settings Are you being sarcastic? You can change the CSPA charge to 0 for players sending you mail.
...but why would you do that?
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
210
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Posted - 2015.01.04 09:22:16 -
[81] - Quote
Obscene CSPA Charge wrote:Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:Kharaxus wrote:
AND!!! It costs money to send people mail!!
That depends on the player's settings You can change the CSPA charge to 0 for players sending you mail. ...but why would you do that? Because I'm n.. ...your name..
Oh, now I just want to send a mail message to you..
Quote:This evemail message is subject to a CSPA service charge of 1,000,000 ISK, which you must accept to complete the invitation. 1 million. Huh. I thought it was going to be higher. You disappoint me Obscene CSPA Charge.... |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
210
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Posted - 2015.01.04 09:35:43 -
[82] - Quote
Solops Crendraven wrote:4) Make Eve free! No subs!
5) However, you gotta pay for the ships.
6) I'm not retard3d of course CCP must get paid! Oh, GOD NO.
EVE is not a pay-to-win. But what you described, if I'm reading that right, is that those who want to win have to pay...
That's great. Ok everyone, get the Lemonade Stand out --We've gotta pay for this Cap Fleet. No Titans, though, we're limited to $10,000 only. |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
3967
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Posted - 2015.01.04 10:22:46 -
[83] - Quote
Yeah have fun manually multiboxing 20 accounts without using any input duplication (ANY duplication, so that includes the picture above)
I'd also like to point out that all of the problems you've listed thus far aren't problems.
"GUISE, DIS KNIFE IS WAY TOO SHARP, PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THEMSELVES AND DOING LAWSUITS" "That's the point, we have a warning label on it, GTFO"
The Drake is a Lie
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
68
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Posted - 2015.01.04 11:57:44 -
[84] - Quote
So now he's copy/pasting content, instead of demanding Eve be free before he creates content and pay for it? |
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:14:31 -
[85] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You silly kids missed the point. In a singleplayer game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content.
In other singleplayer games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the singleplayerness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not.
The more suited to me EVE is, the more it will attract and maintain me. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "play a singleplayer game", you are a rational, productive, and helpful person, I should really refrain from posting. It seems some other words fit your post better, and as such I have inserted them for you.
It seems you lack common sense. The more people your game appeals to, the better. Funny that you can't grasp this simple concept and now refusing to admit you were wrong. |
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:18:46 -
[86] - Quote
Mary Jane Moonbeam wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me. You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content. In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not. The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting. You can play in EVE without playing with other people. Then you just miss all the content that is other people. Which is most of EVE, as it appropriate for an MMO. Pretty simple, but nobody seriously expect people like you to understand even the simplest of things.
Forcing co-op gameplay is not necessary to be an MMO and actually detracts from the sandbox element. Ultima Online was the first great sandbox mmo and you could do ALL of the content solo. The PVP was much better too. Yours is a ignorant, one-dimensional way of thinking. Get some common sense. There are more possibilities other than black and white.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8275
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:38:53 -
[87] - Quote
This thread reeks of failure and apathy...oh hay no life, I thought you 'd biomassed.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1742
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:41:26 -
[88] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:The more people your game appeals to, the better. Yes, everything should aim for the lowest common denominator. Thats what results in quality work.
Witty Image - Stream
Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:44:11 -
[89] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:This thread reeks of failure and apathy...oh hay no life, I thought you 'd biomassed.
You are describing your post history. This is a forum, kid. Try saying something productive instead of your useless one liners. Do you ever think about what you are even doing?
I know you must be a sad situation for you but a video game forum really isn't the place for you to have your social life, cool guy.
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:47:04 -
[90] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:The more people your game appeals to, the better. Yes, everything should aim for the lowest common denominator. Thats what results in quality work.
That does not equate.
Just stop posting now and save yourself further embarrassment, kid. |
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2015.01.04 18:25:17 -
[91] - Quote
The OP claims he is buying a second Alienware product
The price tag on them products.... Is just insane ...i would be more concerned with paying that then extra EVE online accounts.
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Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2015.01.04 18:30:13 -
[92] - Quote
I don't know about you guys but I'm doing just fine after spending a bit on DCT for a PI alt.
But again, I am always tempted to pay for a scout but I find that sticking my own ass on fire serves as a better scout rather than 15$. |
Roel Yento
Death Row inc
46
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:21:10 -
[93] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Mary Jane Moonbeam wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me. You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content. In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not. The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting. You can play in EVE without playing with other people. Then you just miss all the content that is other people. Which is most of EVE, as it appropriate for an MMO. Pretty simple, but nobody seriously expect people like you to understand even the simplest of things. Forcing co-op gameplay is not necessary to be an MMO and actually detracts from the sandbox element. Ultima Online was the first great sandbox mmo and you could do ALL of the content solo. The PVP was much better too. Yours is a ignorant, one-dimensional way of thinking. Get some common sense. There are more possibilities other than black and white. Saying "the people are the content" is an excuse for not having great gameplay. Whenever I hear people say that I think they are an ignorant apologist that is only knee-jerk defending whatever crappy mmo they play. Many people play mmos without co-op gameplay and desire it. You should be embarrassed.
So everyone was doing dungeons in UO solo? While some dungeons were for solo play, it was in your best interest to have a party to go through. Also most mmo's have a focus on multiplay, hence the party and raid content that so many people work towards. I would like to see you solo a raid or 10man dungeon in wow or any of its clones lol.
There are plenty of things you can do solo in eve but there is no reason for everything in game to be made for solo play. Oh and plenty of the content in UO was the pvp. Thiefs in town, people sneaking into your home, and the player killers along the roads to other towns.
For OP, many gamers spend more than 20 bucks in a month on games so paying for one or two accounts if they wish is not a big deal. If 15 to 30 bucks a month is too much than perhaps stop gaming and get another job since you are having financial issues is the way to go. As for alts, no one said you need an alt. Getting an alt is a choice and many players that have alts actually don't need an alt, they are just impatient and want to fly their tengu and proteus asap instead of training one at a time. Eventually they will have most ships trained on both accounts though then they lose the point of having them. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
S0lo responds to EVE Online Lieutenant Community Communications Liaisons (ISD)http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
295
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:26:45 -
[95] - Quote
Dr Prometheus wrote:I think you need to spend your money for a psychiatrist.
CCP psychiatrists would charge you 1 plex for a one hour session on the couch.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
31
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:10:13 -
[96] - Quote
Celise Katelo wrote:The OP claims he is buying a second Alienware productThe price tag on them products.... Is just insane ...i would be more concerned with paying that then extra EVE online accounts. /blinks Ya That Alienware Rig Price is a Joke To Bad we couldn't Gate camp on their Delivery Routes http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/b/607205512
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2493
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:29:47 -
[97] - Quote
Dear OP ...
... I burst out in laughter at ...
"Make EVE free, remove the sub, make THE SHIPS COST MONEY" ROFL!! :D
I can not comprehend how you manage to keep this trollfest of yours open and I am absolutely sure the name Cendraven is hidden in ky memory somewhere ...
... anyhow ...
100/10, you are a genius!
I apologise if this gets your thread locked, but it certainly won't stop these ..... people from posting.
*bows*
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Solecist Project
Snuggle Society Covalent Bonds
12552
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:33:29 -
[98] - Quote
And he has one hell of a good portrait too!!!!
Reminds me of the RnK guy .... ... and certainly shares the brilliance. ^_^
10/10 ask me for a date!!
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1008
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:33:50 -
[99] - Quote
Solops Crendraven wrote:it dost make sense owning anything else but cheap crappy ships and forced to play in some Corp of retards flyinng there borinng doctrines.
I suggest you grow a heart, a brain and a personality.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Keno Skir
721
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:38:02 -
[100] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:The more people your game appeals to, the better.
No
Gùï> 3 Week Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2493
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:39:37 -
[101] - Quote
Lol the mindless zombies just keep rolling in. ^_^
Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai
Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
32
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Posted - 2015.01.05 06:32:33 -
[102] - Quote
Yes!Open your minds!Make Eve Free.No more Subs.And 75%off all ships.why not ????is it to much to ask from this community. I just dont get it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uObnEYcKj8I
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
217
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Posted - 2015.01.05 06:37:14 -
[103] - Quote
Now you're just getting creepy. And since you haven't really commented on the feedback we provide about making EVE F2P, I get the idea that you're trolling. Goodbye. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
32
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Posted - 2015.01.05 06:43:00 -
[104] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Now you're just getting creepy. And since you haven't really commented on the feedback we provide about making EVE F2P, I get the idea that you're trolling. Goodbye. ?????????now im a troll? before you assume and judge me please to first understand me you been so busy insulting me you havnt realized i am only trying to help the eve community please take the time to watch my stream on this issue http://www.twitch.tv/s0lo/b/607205512 important note; the New Age has begun corps, goon and bni is old news and rhetoric . so i now declare this chapter closed .now for the reign of the Eve Of Thrones. let us celebrate the rise of new powers and players no taxes and free rent! http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-three-eyes-raven.jpg Winter is here...
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
69
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:33:27 -
[105] - Quote
ROFL!! HAHAHAHA!!!
"I got 3-4-5 accounts because I like to play that way but its too expensive......" (from OP's twitch)
There's a reason why we have corps and alliances - at the very least so we don't have 3-5 accounts. If you are going to gripe you're going to get flamed.
I was just in a C1 WH that had 7 towers. With a hi-sec static. They were all offline. Likely because the tower was owned by 10 member corps and each corp, were a a corp of alts. For this example - better to do a "jaunt" with a hauler and POS structures, do your thing in the WH, then take it all down and leave. Point being - do the "jaunt" with a corp. Not your alts..... Other people. Just an example.
Once again Devs. A trailer focusing on Corps and Alliances at the noobie would be good right about now. There is already one about a solo Wolf ratting - saved a miner from pirates - the miner introduced him to his corp - and he became part of an alliance of players that worked together. We need a more modern trailer that uses that as an individual element. |
Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
42
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Posted - 2015.01.05 13:29:54 -
[106] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Gotta agree with OP. EVE isn't so much a sandbox as a pay to win game where you need multiple accounts to do anything pretty much anything.
Pity the silly clowns that make this crusty old paper/rock/scissors game their life and live on the forums.
it is pay to win, ... if you choose to measure yourself against someone in the real world with more money.
But that's a choice. Comparison to anyone else is not a part of the game.
At anyone point in time, if everyone had one toon and did no money extras, then there will alway be someone ten times poorer than you and someone ten times richer than you.
How and why they got there, in your situation, is irrelevant. Everyone is on their own race, I'm not racing you, and you only race me by your choice.
"Lykouleon wrote:
STOP
TOUCHING
ICONIC
SHIP
PARTS"
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
42
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Posted - 2015.01.05 13:35:43 -
[107] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Mary Jane Moonbeam wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anything you can do with multiple accounts you can do with multiple people. Go out and make some friends and stop whinging. And trust me, 'pay to win' mentality only results in hilarious killmails at the expense of those who embrace it. But hey, I benefit from that particular form of idiocy, so by all means encourage people to spend more on things they don't understand how to use. It makes things spicy for me. You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content. In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not. The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting. You can play in EVE without playing with other people. Then you just miss all the content that is other people. Which is most of EVE, as it appropriate for an MMO. Pretty simple, but nobody seriously expect people like you to understand even the simplest of things. Forcing co-op gameplay is not necessary to be an MMO and actually detracts from the sandbox element. Ultima Online was the first great sandbox mmo and you could do ALL of the content solo. The PVP was much better too. Yours is a ignorant, one-dimensional way of thinking. Get some common sense. There are more possibilities other than black and white. Saying "the people are the content" is an excuse for not having great gameplay. Whenever I hear people say that I think they are an ignorant apologist that is only knee-jerk defending whatever crappy mmo they play. Many people play mmos without co-op gameplay and desire it. You should be embarrassed.
omg, *facepalm*
"Lykouleon wrote:
STOP
TOUCHING
ICONIC
SHIP
PARTS"
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Solecist Project
Snuggle Society Covalent Bonds
12553
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Posted - 2015.01.05 14:19:32 -
[108] - Quote
Leannor wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Gotta agree with OP. EVE isn't so much a sandbox as a pay to win game where you need multiple accounts to do anything pretty much anything.
Pity the silly clowns that make this crusty old paper/rock/scissors game their life and live on the forums. it is pay to win, ... if you choose to measure yourself against someone in the real world with more money. But that's a choice. Comparison to anyone else is not a part of the game. At anyone point in time, if everyone had one toon and did no money extras, then there will alway be someone ten times poorer than you and someone ten times richer than you. How and why they got there, in your situation, is irrelevant. Everyone is on their own race, I'm not racing you, and you only race me by your choice. The really funny part is how he talks about people on the forums ... ... while he cried about how CCP changed his rattlesnake. Think it was a rattlesnake.
He's a fulltime troll, don't feed him.
But this whole thread is one gigantic troll that's very well executed.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
35
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Posted - 2015.01.05 19:01:52 -
[109] - Quote
I dont mind getting Flamed on this Thread However I just don't understand why Everybody on this Forum Wants to pay a subscription for a MMO this really disturbs me while every other MMO beside Wow is free and they use Micro transactions to make money. I thought I would get more support I though maybe we can make the 2 other alt in our one account more useful so i wouldnt have to purchase 3 more accounts wouldn't it be great they can also log in too,With all honestly dont you think paying $20 for ship a little Expensive?All Im saying is If Ships where a $1 each people wouldnt be so miser about flying the bling and we would have Epic battles.Is that Unreasonable?
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12557
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Posted - 2015.01.05 19:06:28 -
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Sixth page.
Ask me for a date!
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2015.01.05 19:15:09 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Sixth page.
Ask me for a date!
Well, the head pose with respect to the body is really sexy, thumbs up!
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.05 19:26:14 -
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Ya i like her vest. and you just reminded me whats up with the Absurdly Expensive Virtual Monocles selling on the market? And people Think i need to see a shrink
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.05 20:09:34 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind getting Flamed on this Thread However I just don't understand why Everybody on this Forum Wants to pay a subscription for a MMO this really disturbs me while every other MMO beside Wow is free and they use Micro transactions to make money. I thought I would get more support I though maybe we can make the 2 other alt in our one account more useful so i wouldnt have to purchase 3 more accounts wouldn't it be great they can also log in too,With all honestly dont you think paying $20 for ship a little Expensive?All Im saying is If Ships where a $1 each people wouldnt be so miser about flying the bling and we would have Epic battles.Is that Unreasonable? And rattlesnakes way overpriced I mean ill buy one but its going to suck losing my bling vs some 2cents frigs .and why they brown looking or is it my PC Low settings.
$20 is cheap to buy/fit a ship. Expensive if you don't know how to fly it and stay camped in a station or cloaked.
The reason people want to pay to play this game is because of the amount of WORK done to maintain an excellent MMO that has stood the test of time - all you have done is gripe.
Rattlesnakes aren't so expensive if you find an Indy to build it for you.
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Jurico Elemenohpe
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:40:10 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind getting Flamed on this Thread However I just don't understand why Everybody on this Forum Wants to pay a subscription for a MMO this really disturbs me while every other MMO beside Wow is free and they use Micro transactions to make money. I thought I would get more support I though maybe we can make the 2 other alt in our one account more useful so i wouldnt have to purchase 3 more accounts wouldn't it be great they can also log in too,With all honestly dont you think paying $20 for ship a little Expensive?All Im saying is If Ships where a $1 each people wouldnt be so miser about flying the bling and we would have Epic battles.Is that Unreasonable? And rattlesnakes way overpriced I mean ill buy one but its going to suck losing my bling vs some 2cents frigs .and why they brown looking or is it my PC Low settings. Not really overpriced if you know how to make isk.. A few hours of in game farming or a couple of hours in a job (at $10/hour) |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:48:43 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:every other MMO beside Wow is free Not really, they just compromise the game instead. It might be pay to progress faster, which encourages building grind into the game model, or nickel and diming, which encourages putting content (usually cosmetic) behind a paywall.
Having a subscription fee is a burden the game has to carry, a downside to playing it, but it is a metalevel burden which doesn't actually affect the game itself. 'Free' games almost invariably just move the burden inside the game world as described above, which is why 'free to play' is, in the vast majority of cases, synonymous with ****.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:59:17 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:With all honestly dont you think paying $20 for ship a little Expensive? I currently have 5 paid accounts (lowers head in shame).
Solops Crendraven wrote:All Im saying is If Ships where a $1 each people wouldnt be so miser about flying the bling and we would have Epic battles. There'd be no reason to without consequence.
Like during titan events on SiSi: it is a novelty, but doesn't make for sustained long-term game-play. |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
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Posted - 2015.01.06 02:55:49 -
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No one's making you run multiple accounts, you do that on your own terms.
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Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.06 06:00:59 -
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It's free if you aren't a complete mutt. You can make a subscription each month passively just through manufacturing. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:25:36 -
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Why would You fly Around with 1k worth of plex?????? And I thought I was Throwing away Money. http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/1500-lost-in-eve-online-ship-attack/
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:33:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:It's free if you aren't a complete mutt. You can make a subscription each month passively just through manufacturing. A Nutt Maybe A MuttIM NOt
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omgitsbees Isayeki
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 14:38:47 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:You're looking for a single player game.
No single player RPG like Eve-O though, so i'll continue playing this. I also don't have any complaints about Eve-O, so we are all good here.
According to the money figure in the article, that is about 75 months worth of Eve-O subscription? |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:23:45 -
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stupid is as stupid does. undock with a month or two's worth of rent and don't scream when you lose it. microtransaction is a terrible idea that does not fit eve. You should feel a modicum of shame about your relentless attempts to promote your twitch channel that nobody really cares about. You should feel greater shame for seriously trying to change the nature of a game that appears to be older than you are. Also, now that we've gone full circle and heard what you have to say... GTFO.
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:31:19 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:every other MMO beside Wow is free Not really, they just compromise the game instead. It might be pay to progress faster, which encourages building grind into the game model, or nickel and diming, which encourages putting content (usually cosmetic) behind a paywall. Having a subscription fee is a burden the game has to carry, a downside to playing it, but it is a metalevel burden which doesn't actually affect the game itself. 'Free' games almost invariably just move the burden inside the game world as described above, which is why 'free to play' is, in the vast majority of cases, synonymous with ****.
You forget the best reason for the sub fee ... gets rid of the transiant riff raff who don't care about EVE.
If you're paying for something, you're gunna commit to it. Be it as a piewat, Jita scammer, spy, leader, flunky or carebear, they're all as important as each other.
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STOP
TOUCHING
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SHIP
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:39:44 -
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Leannor wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:every other MMO beside Wow is free Not really, they just compromise the game instead. It might be pay to progress faster, which encourages building grind into the game model, or nickel and diming, which encourages putting content (usually cosmetic) behind a paywall. Having a subscription fee is a burden the game has to carry, a downside to playing it, but it is a metalevel burden which doesn't actually affect the game itself. 'Free' games almost invariably just move the burden inside the game world as described above, which is why 'free to play' is, in the vast majority of cases, synonymous with ****. You forget the best reason for the sub fee ... gets rid of the transiant riff raff who don't care about EVE. If you're paying for something, you're gunna commit to it. Be it as a piewat, Jita scammer, spy, leader, flunky or carebear, they're all as important as each other.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:47:59 -
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Leannor wrote:You forget the best reason for the sub fee ... gets rid of the transiant riff raff who don't care about EVE.
If you're paying for something, you're gunna commit to it. Be it as a piewat, Jita scammer, spy, leader, flunky or carebear, they're all as important as each other. I don't even want to state the total amount of time over the years that I have been subbed and yet never bothered logging in (or having a skill training).
But that's probably just me, the point stands in general I would imagine.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:48:05 -
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Leannor wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:every other MMO beside Wow is free Not really, they just compromise the game instead. It might be pay to progress faster, which encourages building grind into the game model, or nickel and diming, which encourages putting content (usually cosmetic) behind a paywall. Having a subscription fee is a burden the game has to carry, a downside to playing it, but it is a metalevel burden which doesn't actually affect the game itself. 'Free' games almost invariably just move the burden inside the game world as described above, which is why 'free to play' is, in the vast majority of cases, synonymous with ****. You forget the best reason for the sub fee ... gets rid of the transiant riff raff who don't care about EVE.
A(freaking)men to that.
If you're paying for something, you're gunna commit to it. Be it as a piewat, Jita scammer, spy, leader, flunky or carebear, they're all as important as each other. [/quote]
This is also the genius of PLEX. When you spend hours ratting to get one, that experience has more value than the "free to plaY" situation of "log in/play game".
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:43:55 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Leannor wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:every other MMO beside Wow is free Not really, they just compromise the game instead. It might be pay to progress faster, which encourages building grind into the game model, or nickel and diming, which encourages putting content (usually cosmetic) behind a paywall. Having a subscription fee is a burden the game has to carry, a downside to playing it, but it is a metalevel burden which doesn't actually affect the game itself. 'Free' games almost invariably just move the burden inside the game world as described above, which is why 'free to play' is, in the vast majority of cases, synonymous with ****. You forget the best reason for the sub fee ... gets rid of the transiant riff raff who don't care about EVE. A(freaking)men to that. If you're paying for something, you're gunna commit to it. Be it as a piewat, Jita scammer, spy, leader, flunky or carebear, they're all as important as each other.
I see You all are quite Passionate about eve Online never really met such a lot in my life who enjoy Paying corp taxes, subs ,$60 monocles, and lose 1k worth of plex I have to say thats quite admirable. I admit I lost 3b worth of stuff in a orca in a WH playing cat in mouse against a Pirate corp as well as blobbing with BNI.I guess its worth $20 a month.Dont tell no one.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:50:17 -
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Can you give me a hint where I know your name from?
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
35
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:52:39 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Can you give me a hint where I know your name from? Who Me?
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:57:49 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Can you give me a hint where I know your name from? Who Me? Yeah you.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:01:35 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Can you give me a hint where I know your name from? Who Me? Yeah you.
Probably from BNI or Spectra Fleet. I also Play alot Of Games Using Solops Perhaps That.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:12:49 -
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Hm. *scratches her boobee*
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
36
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:34:05 -
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Ive come to conclusion that Eve Online is Worth the $Money Even I I will be spending the rest of my life training skills and still never finish it will be well worth it.I did some soul searching An I realized there is nothing reallyto gripe about. Long Live Eve However one last note;I like to thank the Liaisons team for cracking down on trolls ,flames,and other Jibberish and grief on the forms I really meant every word of my gripes about spending my money now to alliance with a corp that are not filled with flames trolls and Jibberish thats a whole other thread and story Peace This forum is now Locked Indefinitely
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:36:39 -
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I really wonder how you managed to slip through.
Best troll of 2015 and it's only january...
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:40:28 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Ive come to conclusion that Eve Online is Worth the $Money Even I I will be spending the rest of my life training skills and still never finish it will be well worth it.I did some soul searching An I realized there is nothing reallyto gripe about. Long Live Eve However one last note;I like to thank the Liaisons team for cracking down on trolls ,flames,and other Jibberish and grief on the forms I really meant every word of my gripes about Eve and spending my money now to alliance with a corp that are not filled with flames trolls and Jibberish thats a whole other thread and story Peace This forum is now Locked Indefinitely
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
37
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:45:44 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I really wonder how you managed to slip through.
Best troll of 2015 and it's only january... LOL Im not a troll However My Friend who stopped paying eve does have a gripe being this is a gripe thread I have a question to the Eve commuinty is it true that if you have a account that is not active for a period of time they delete it Im serious he was pissed off and I never heard such a thing. So i need some official verification because what happens if I spend over a trillion isk on skills and ships and I go MIA for 3 years without paying subs do I get Deleted???? Thanks it a real concern of mine.
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:46:11 -
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No, but as the OP officially abandoned it and as long as he doesn't report it for lockage ...
LAWLESS SPACE!!!
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOBOOBS!!!
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:47:48 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Solecist Project wrote:I really wonder how you managed to slip through.
Best troll of 2015 and it's only january... LOL Im not a troll However My Friend who stopped paying eve does have a gripe being this is a gripe thread I have a question to the Eve commuinty is it true that if you have a account that is not active for a period of time they delete it Im serious he was pissed off and I never heard such a thing. So i need some official verification because what happens if I spend over a trillion isk on skills and ships and I go MIA for 3 years without paying subs do I get Deleted???? Thanks it a real concern of mine. God I love you for some unknown reason, really. :D
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
37
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Posted - 2015.01.07 18:57:15 -
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Almost forgot Ive mean so selfish with my own gripes I havnt even asked the Eve community about their gripes Imean with the sound of this Forum it seem evrybody is happy so I doubt it if you have some real genune complaints feel free to gripeI really want to know.
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