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Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Flaming sambuka on 16/09/2006 21:35:24 Enyo is i believe.
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Murehk on 16/09/2006 21:35:42 Simple question to save me time.
Do any of you guys know of the top of your head which frig has the capability to do the most dps with a standard setup?
I'm geussing Ranis or Ishkur although I'm not sure.
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:50:00 -
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Could someone second this?
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Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:53:00 -
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Flaming sambuka is so leet there needs not to be a seconding :P
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:55:00 -
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Ppl have said that too me befor eand after a min or 2 of digging I've proved them wrong, don't really have a min or 2 to work out dps from that many ships with all those setups atm though.
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy rabbit killer's inc
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:56:00 -
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retribution
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:57:00 -
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Retri has weak DPS, even with 3 heatsinks 2 gyro wolf outdamages it.
IIRC Wolf has one of highest DPS in game from frig class, not sure abt gally ones tho (i know ishkur can get pretty high too).
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn retribution
indeed the pulse conflag retri is the DPS king -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Litus Arowar on 16/09/2006 22:02:21 for straight out gun damage, retribution
otherwise ishkur, with 3 blasters, 3 dmg mods, 3 medium + 2 light drones
[EDIT] and of course, we're talking raw DPS, resistences aren't relevant in this situation
cytomatrix> Try sitting inside a big frickin ball filled up with glue and tubes stuck up your nose and your arse. Then compare RL and Eve. |
GO MaZ
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: GO MaZ on 16/09/2006 22:01:22 Pretty sure it's the Ishkur because it's sacrificing a possible Light Neutron II and a rocket launcher for 3 extra medium drones and 1 extra light drone, which with good skills are worth 115dps on their own
Ishkur pushes about 380dps, enyo pushes about 370 (but only within a couple KM)
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 22:01:12 double post :(
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:01:00 -
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Just checked:
Max skilled retri, 4x med pulse t2 + confla, 3x heatsink t2 - 280 raw DPS
Max skill wolf, 4x 200mm + hail, 2x gyro: 335dps
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 16/09/2006 22:02:23
Best way to really find out is to use NB's excel spreadsheet. :)
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Murehk
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:07:00 -
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Oh yea, Im only interested in it if it has enough mids to tackle with . Like I said though, i don't have the time to work it out, thats why I was asking to see if anyone knew of the top of their heads.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Litus Arowar on 16/09/2006 22:12:06
Originally by: Deva Blackfire Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 22:07:36 Just checked:
Max skilled retri, 4x med pulse t2 + confla, 3x heatsink t2 - 280 raw DPS
Max skill wolf, 4x 200mm + hail, 2x gyro: 335dps
EDIT: some more numbers (from qfit):
Enyo, neutron t2, 4x magstab + hobgoblin t2 = 365 DPS
Ishkur, neutron t2 (void), 3x magstab 3x hammer, 2x hobgoblin = 379dps
wolf, 200mm (hail), 4x gyro = 400dps
I stand corrected... I'd still like to see a max raw DPS calc for the ishkur as posted above... the theoretical blaster max is 240, would the drones add another 135 or so? 3 meds, 2 lights... not a drone user, so I don't know how good they get
[EDIT] oh wow, I clicked reply before you re-edited, and didn't realize you give the answer already ;)
cytomatrix> Try sitting inside a big frickin ball filled up with glue and tubes stuck up your nose and your arse. Then compare RL and Eve. |
Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:13:00 -
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arghh you people couldnt just let me have my moment and be right for once
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:15:00 -
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Drones do 135dps with max skills, with typical skill set (interfacing 4, combat drone op 4, spec 3-4) it will be a bit above 100 i think (cba to check right now with other skills :)
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:25:00 -
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my retribution hits over 300. 290 with t1 crystals ________________________________________________________ nerf WCS |
Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:29:00 -
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Damage hardwires?
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: inSpirAcy on 16/09/2006 22:33:56 A gank Ishkur (3 LN II + Void, 3 MS) pushes about 360 DPS with 3 Hammerheads and 2 Hobgoblins.
Edit: Oops, someone's already done that above me. With a slightly higher result, too.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy Edited by: inSpirAcy on 16/09/2006 22:33:56 A gank Ishkur (3 LN II + Void, 3 MS) pushes about 360 DPS with 3 Hammerheads and 2 Hobgoblins.
Edit: Oops, someone's already done that above me. With a slightly higher result, too.
367 if you wanna be reeeeally picky... well actually really picky would be 367.4, but that's quickfit :)
cytomatrix> Try sitting inside a big frickin ball filled up with glue and tubes stuck up your nose and your arse. Then compare RL and Eve. |
inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Litus Arowar 367 if you wanna be reeeeally picky... well actually really picky would be 367.4, but that's quickfit :)
I've never trusted Quickfit since it said my Raven setup would do negative DPS.
I estimated from NB's graph (which only lets you choose one type of drone), so I wasn't far off.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:43:00 -
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Can someone run a graph for wolf with 200mm t2, hail and 4 dmg mods? Seems that Qfit is really borked there.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: inSpirAcy on 16/09/2006 22:47:09
Originally by: Deva Blackfire Can someone run a graph for wolf with 200mm t2, hail and 4 dmg mods? Seems that Qfit is really borked there.
333 DPS.
Edit: That's with an empty launcher slot, mind. Not sure what fits there in reality on a Wolf.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 22:47:00 -
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Thx - so qfit gives way too high results :?
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.16 23:03:00 -
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Once again we see Amarr comes out at the botton -- the retribution has the lowest dps of the frigs considered here (ishkur, wolf, enyo) even in a pure-damage setup. Morover it has only 1 med slot, its the slowest of the three (tied with enyo), and guns use a significant amount of cap (whereas the wolf doesn't need any cap for its guns).
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.16 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire Thx - so qfit gives way too high results :?
It's widely understood to be broken, yes.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 23:07:48 I can only say one thing:
the myth called "retri has one mid cause it has so good damage it would be overpowered with two" is busted already. Maybe its time to give it an ability to tackle?
Quote: It's widely understood to be broken, yes.
I knew it already that most results were +-5% correct. But difference between 333 and 400 is a *bit* higher than error margin :/
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tasty Burger
Originally by: Deva Blackfire Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 22:08:53 Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 22:07:36 Just checked:
Max skilled retri, 4x med pulse t2 + confla, 3x heatsink t2 - 280 raw DPS
Max skill wolf, 4x 200mm + hail, 2x gyro: 335dps
EDIT: some more numbers (from qfit):
Enyo, neutron t2, 4x magstab + hobgoblin t2 = 365 DPS
Ishkur, neutron t2 (void), 3x magstab 3x hammer, 2x hobgoblin = 379dps
wolf, 200mm (hail), 4x gyro = 400dps
EDIT2:
As for standard setups: enyo/ishkur/wolf will deal most pain (2 gyro on wolf as for mine standard ;p)
Lol at 4 magstabs on an enyo/gyros on wolf.
Um - whats so funny abt it when i was setting up for max damage rather than typical combat setup?
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Deva Blackfire
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 16/09/2006 23:42:16 #^%$# my connection sucks :(
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