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Hookage Hoeslice
Talocan Souls Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:13:42 -
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Ok so I've been looking for a moon to set up a POS in HS and every moon I've been to has one. The problem is 90% of them have no shield and probably abandoned. We should be able to blow up a tower with no shield in HS without concord getting involved. This is ridiculous and needs to be fixed. People are taking up valuable space and there's nothing we can do without being raped by concord and losing sec status.
Make abandoned POS in HS free game. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:14:40 -
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Or, you know, declare war. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:24:17 -
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Please use the search facility as this has been raised time and again.
Lock requested for redundant thread.
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Hookage Hoeslice
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:24:18 -
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afkalt wrote:Or, you know, declare war.
Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. So basically I have to create an alt, train so I can make my own corp, go to war and blow up an abandoned tower. That's dumb. |
Velicitia
XS Tech
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:28:28 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:afkalt wrote:Or, you know, declare war. Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. So basically I have to create an alt, train so I can make my own corp, go to war and blow up an abandoned tower. That's dumb. Besides, what if they are in the default corp? Can you even declare war on them? Doubtful.
you can't launch POS towers if you're in a NPC corp, so ...
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Hookage Hoeslice
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:29:04 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:Please use the search facility as this has been raised time and again.
Lock requested for redundant thread.
Well if it's been brought up time and time again, why has this not been done? How hard would it be for them to add a line of code with and yes or no if forcefield is up? If yes, concord takes action. If no, concord grabs popcorn. |
Hookage Hoeslice
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:29:56 -
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Velicitia wrote:Hookage Hoeslice wrote:afkalt wrote:Or, you know, declare war. Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. So basically I have to create an alt, train so I can make my own corp, go to war and blow up an abandoned tower. That's dumb. Besides, what if they are in the default corp? Can you even declare war on them? Doubtful. you can't launch POS towers if you're in a NPC corp, so ...
What if they launched it while in a corp and later left the corp....? Did you even think that one thru? |
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:32:49 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. They should. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:35:09 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Please use the search facility as this has been raised time and again.
Lock requested for redundant thread. Well if it's been brought up time and time again, why has this not been done? How hard would it be for them to add a line of code with and yes or no if forcefield is up? If yes, concord takes action. If no, concord grabs popcorn.
Moves aside for the Game Developer to lead the way...*slow clap*
Seriously, there's a mechanic: War Declaration. Use it along with search please
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Hookage Hoeslice
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:36:41 -
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Whatever man, I'll just make an alt, make a corp, declare war. It's really stupid that I have to do all that to blow up a tower. |
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2015.01.13 14:58:18 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Please use the search facility as this has been raised time and again.
Lock requested for redundant thread. Well if it's been brought up time and time again, why has this not been done? How hard would it be for them to add a line of code with and yes or no if forcefield is up? If yes, concord takes action. If no, concord grabs popcorn.
It's brought up time and time again because people like you are too damn lazy to use a wardec.
Every time, the suggestion is shot down because wardec are the solution already in place. |
Debora Tsung
Die Woge des Wahnsinns Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2015.01.13 15:14:30 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Please use the search facility as this has been raised time and again.
Lock requested for redundant thread. Well if it's been brought up time and time again, why has this not been done? How hard would it be for them to add a line of code with and yes or no if forcefield is up? If yes, concord takes action. If no, concord grabs popcorn. Seems to me as if we'd need a "kill abandoned towers in HS" Thread in addition to the afk cloaking thread...
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
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Helios Panala
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Posted - 2015.01.13 15:30:54 -
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Inactive towers shouldn't receive CONCORD protection, the fact that you have to fuel them with Empire permission slips in high-sec seems to imply that the faction navies would tear them down if you fell behind. But whatever, the lore's never been terribly consistent.
In the mean-time war-decs exist. Even the most combat shy of care-bear corps shouldn't be afraid of deccing a one man corp that's been inactive for 6+ months. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.01.13 15:33:37 -
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Go elsewhere? I know 7000 systems in EVE which have numerous free moons. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:48:56 -
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afkalt is quite right. If you're sure that the POS is abandoned and the corp is effectively defunct, you should also have no problems declaring war against that corporation and bashing their POS down. CONCORD won't interfere if it's within a war.
Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Whatever man, I'll just make an alt, make a corp, declare war. It's really stupid that I have to do all that to blow up a tower.
You don't have to make an alt and make a corp to declare war. You can just declare war with the corp you've already got. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:54:40 -
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If only this game had mercs, oh well too bad it doesn't.
Also, there are plenty of free moons, stop exaggerating.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:08:01 -
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your corp or alliance should have little issue deccing an inactive corp. give them the money and tell them you'll do it urself. they have no risk, no costs, dont even have to do any work.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:10:44 -
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[Shameless Plug]
My corp is for hire and one of the things we specialize in is the removal of offline hisec control towers. Feel free to contact me via EvE-mail for a quote.
[/Shameless Plug]
From my experience, let me share a few things with you:
1. There are plenty of empty moons in New Eden. I do occasional sweeps of certain sectors looking for potential freelance targets and I still find entire systems devoid of any towers. What you're running into is that there aren't any free moons where you want one to be. This means that said moon is likely desirable for some reason or another and if you want to use it, you should have to pay the price. Supply and Demand is Economics 101, and I often wonder to myself why my clients really need that moon instead of a free one a few systems over. But, hey, if they're willing to pay, I'm willing to take their money. That's also Economics 101.
2. There are also a large number of hisec POSes that are generally kept offline and only used when needed. Reprocesing and Compression POSes (particularly the latter) come to mind. How do you know that the control tower is really abandoned and simply not in use because the owner corp is saving fuel? How do you know that the POS owner isn't simply on holiday and waiting to activate it when they return? You can't. You have to assume that every control tower you see may come back online at any moment.
3. As stated above, there are already mechanisms in place to deal with freeing up a moon, namely declaring war on the owner corp and destroying it. Your unwillingness to use existing mechanisms is not sufficient motivation to create new ones. Dec the owner (or hire someone to do it for you), kill the tower (or hire someone to do it for you), and anchor your own.
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Major Trant
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:13:52 -
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Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Velicitia wrote:Hookage Hoeslice wrote:afkalt wrote:Or, you know, declare war. Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. So basically I have to create an alt, train so I can make my own corp, go to war and blow up an abandoned tower. That's dumb. Besides, what if they are in the default corp? Can you even declare war on them? Doubtful. you can't launch POS towers if you're in a NPC corp, so ... What if they launched it while in a corp and later left the corp....? Did you even think that one thru? A tower belongs to a corp not the person who launched it. You dec the owning corp not the person. |
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn Resonance.
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:16:29 -
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Major Trant wrote:Hookage Hoeslice wrote:Velicitia wrote:Hookage Hoeslice wrote:afkalt wrote:Or, you know, declare war. Yeah, because my corp and alliance will let me do that. So basically I have to create an alt, train so I can make my own corp, go to war and blow up an abandoned tower. That's dumb. Besides, what if they are in the default corp? Can you even declare war on them? Doubtful. you can't launch POS towers if you're in a NPC corp, so ... What if they launched it while in a corp and later left the corp....? Did you even think that one thru? A tower belongs to a corp not the person who launched it. You dec the owning corp not the person. POS mechanics are hard
As for OP This has been discussed plenty of times, and nothing stops you from deccing the corps that holds the towers. "But if it has been discussed so much, why hasn't anything been done?" Because everything that gets discussed a lot there must be done something about, right? RIGHT? *cough afk cough cloaking* |
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1461
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:30:25 -
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Discomanco wrote: "But if it has been discussed so much, why hasn't anything been done?" Because everything that gets discussed a lot there must be done something about, right? RIGHT? *cough afk cough cloaking*
Nerf and buff like... everything... |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.13 21:32:17 -
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Quote:Forum rules17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
Closed.
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