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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:03:40 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You can tell how mad they are, by how hard they're trying to derail the thread. Pretty much. The derailment effort is entirely one-sided here.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11341
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:07:37 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You can tell how mad they are, by how hard they're trying to derail the thread. Pretty much. The derailment effort is entirely one-sided here.
Personally, I find it hilarious. Especially how they're just trying to stifle any dissent to the change, just saying "nope! It's announced, too bad, deal with it, hehehehehehehe!" and such. Like only their side is allowed to give feedback.
Meanwhile, when CCP was about to change freighters to a less than desirable state, the tears overflowed the forums.
But then I don't expect consistency from them anymore. I stopped viewing them as people a long time ago, they're just the same bad idea and bad attitude with different faces.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:09:08 -
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Why do we need higher newbros in player corps for higher retention anyways... like seriously, its just greed. Eve lasted these past 10yrs being cold and harsh. Ccp literally threw money down drain with dust and WiS and thw vampire mmo and now with valk etc etc etc. I rad a great article by a former dev about how much r&d they wasted on vampire mmo and WiS and that money was taken from eve.
We dont need millions of newbros guys. We dont need WoW level subs. We have enough peoplw online and can make it another 10ys if Eve stays the way it made it this far.
Serioualy y we need 1000000 more newbro subs? This is the pinnacle of the entire topic. |
Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:11:50 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: But let me ask a question back on topic. Why is awoxing not legit pvp?
Because disqualifying something they dislike is the first step in advocating for it's removal. People say the same thing about ganking for fun, or wardecs, right before they say that it should go away. It's merely a dishonest tactic used by those who want to dumb down the game.
But nothing is being removed, that is like saying accidentally shooting rocks got removed with the concord warning. Yet it still happens much like this will still happen.
The whole arguement is about the level of work that person wants to put into it to get their "pvp" out of awoxing. Apparently we are learning they are lazy bastards who can talk themselves into any corporation but can't get a simple button changed.
Its really not worth arguing about something so silly, you keep trying to reach into higher levels of pvp, which it isn't. No i respect gankers and wardecs you see that took work, just like awoxing will finally take work now. |
Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:16:46 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: But let me ask a question back on topic. Why is awoxing not legit pvp?
Because disqualifying something they dislike is the first step in advocating for it's removal. People say the same thing about ganking for fun, or wardecs, right before they say that it should go away. It's merely a dishonest tactic used by those who want to dumb down the game. But nothing is being removed, that is like saying accidentally shooting rocks got removed with the concord warning. Yet it still happens much like this will still happen. The whole arguement is about the level of work that person wants to put into it to get their "pvp" out of awoxing. Apparently we are learning they are lazy bastards who can talk themselves into any corporation but can't get a simple button changed. Its really not worth arguing about something so silly, you keep trying to reach into higher levels of pvp, which it isn't. No i respect gankers and wardecs you see that took work, just like awoxing will finally take work now.
Dude back in 2010 if you shot a rock you got concorded. Now you dont. Theres no warning. You can just shoot at rocks if you want cuz poor mimers accidenlty got concorded while mining so ccp changed it. So youre wrong.
Second. THE LOWSEC BAIT ALT IS CALLING PEOPLE LAZY LOOKING FOR KILLS..... RU JOKING? HOW MUCH WORK DOES SITTING AN IBIS IN A BELT WHILE YOU WAIT WITH 15GUYS ON OTHERSODE OF GATE? U ARE A SCRUB AND A COWARD MOOSe. Post with main so i can safari your moose ass.
Also seriously u are wrong about ahooting rocks cuz u dont get concorded anymore cuz ccp changed it for miner safety |
Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11342
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:19:10 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote: But nothing is being removed
Keep repeating that lie, it might come true one day.
Quote: The whole arguement is about the level of work that person wants to put into it to get their "pvp" out of awoxing. Apparently we are learning they are lazy bastards who can talk themselves into any corporation but can't get a simple button changed.
Not with a 24 hour cooldown and a corp wide notification. It's deliberately contrived in such a way as to make changing it all but impossible. And doing it in reverse, in which you lure someone into your own corp to kill them, is an entirely different thing.
The ability to infiltrate a corporation and assassinate their members is being functionally removed. Stop lying about it. You aren't fooling anyone who isn't already on your side anyway.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
31206
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:26:57 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:The whole arguement is about the level of work that person wants to put into it to get their "pvp" out of awoxing. Apparently we are learning they are lazy bastards who can talk themselves into any corporation but can't get a simple button changed. Is it also possible to see that this isn't only about one small change?
One small change on it's own is never an issue. I think gankers, awoxers and scammers have a good track record in adjusting to change and keeping things going.
However, there is also the aspect that this one change, with other changes and with the inevitable future calls for more changes to make things safer, end up moving the game away from some of the principles that attract many players.
There aren't other games out there with the reputation for choices-consequences and risk-reward that Eve enjoys.
At the moment, it seems that there is a strong move to want more reward for less risk while ensuring that others are not able to play the game they want to.
There is nothing wrong with speaking out against that, especially from those that are constantly being told their form on play is not valid, or is cowardly, or takes no effort.
It seems that most of the changes asked for are designed to make it easier to play without effort. There is some hypocrisy in that.
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Brit Green
The Actinic Agency
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Posted - 2015.01.19 07:47:17 -
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Quote:Civilized discussion about the upcoming nerf fix to Awoxing
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.19 08:06:48 -
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