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Awox
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Posted - 2006.09.25 11:24:00 -
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Hi-ho!
I've started training up for recons \o/ and I want to know WTF is up with the Minmatar ones? Once again the Minmatar ship is a "gang oriented" ship with no defencive bonuses.
Now, let's compare the Huginn and the Curse:
Same sensor strenght. Huginn has less mass, is faster. Curse has more armour HP, with better resists. (Huginn only has 75 more shield HP!) Curse has more capacitor, yet bonus to nosferatu! Curse has more cargo, yet does not use turrets/missiles. Curse has 1 less mid, but gets a bonus to mids and high.
So, let's see.
Curse can fit a better tank due to having more low slots, with better resists whilst still using it's mids and high slots to utilize it's bonus.
Huginn you can squeeze a weak armor tank on, or a semi-decent shield tank, which leaves you with 3-4 slots left for webbing, scrambling and such.
Curse can use tracking disruptors and nosferatu/neutralizers to break weapon systems and tanking systems.
Huginn can web + paint stuff.
Maybe the Huginn should have an extra mid-slot seeing as it has no defencive EW and can mount less of a tank?
Right now? Seriously not motivated to train Minmatar Cruiser lvl5 over Amarr Cruiser lvl5 or even Gallente Cruiser lvl5.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.25 11:45:00 -
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Then don't train it and keep my nice and shiny Minnie Recons nice and cheap.
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.25 12:57:00 -
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Different roles. The curse can disable the big boy BSs whereas the huginn excells in catching annoying frig gnats.
Overall the curse is IMO the better ship, but not every race has equally good ships in all categories. Go for HACs and minnie have the better ships there, for example.
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Jet Collins
Dynamic Endeavors
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel Different roles. The curse can disable the big boy BSs whereas the huginn excells in catching annoying frig gnats.
Overall the curse is IMO the better ship, but not every race has equally good ships in all categories. Go for HACs and minnie have the better ships there, for example.
True. These days have have to look at what you want to do with the ship. T2 sips are fitting very specific roles these days. Many of them are better a different things so best thing to do is train the one that best suits what you want to do. In your case sounds like Minmatar is not the way to go. But it is not a bad ship by any means.
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TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
but not every race has equally good ships in all categories.
Yet everyone wants it like that, Eve is getting more and more like Formula 1 , They are equalizing the playground and giving a boring result at the end of the day.
People need to start learning that some ships are better at things than others.
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Blitzkrieg
The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:24:00 -
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I have access to caldari, minmatar and amarr recons. A rook or a pilgrim/curse have much more use and flexibility than a huggin/rapier. There is no debating it...
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Al Haquis
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.25 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blitzkrieg I have access to caldari, minmatar and amarr recons. A rook or a pilgrim/curse have much more use and flexibility than a huggin/rapier. There is no debating it...
Yes there is.
With love from Al Haquis
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.25 14:44:00 -
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want to kill those pesky vagas?
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.09.25 15:32:00 -
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Minnie recon's aren't the best solo ships...but the are AWESOME gang ships.
In any small gang they give you the ability to dictate range, and allow you to insta-pop all smaller ships by completely stopping them in their tracks. Throw in a Claymore and now your putting any ship within 40km at a complete standstill.
Have any friends that like ravens? A minnie recon + raven w rage torps is still one of the most devastating small gangs around.
Shamis
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.25 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 25/09/2006 15:36:20 That's like comparing the sac to the vagabond, some things are just better ships.
The minnie recons are for gangs, get used to it.
What the real problem is is the minnie sabre, 3 mid slots for a boosting cruiser o_0, what the **** is that about? ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.25 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg What the real problem is is the minnie sabre, 3 mid slots for a boosting cruiser o_0, what the **** is that about?
Huh? The Sabre is the Minmatar Interdictor, and it has 4 med slots, not 3. If you were thinking of the Scimitar (that's my guess based on your wording ("boosting cruiser")), it has 5 med slots, not 3. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.25 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Then don't train it and keep my nice and shiny Minnie Recons nice and cheap.
I'm with elve on thsi one. Huginn/Rapier are serously nice ships if you know what to do with em.
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Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.25 17:08:00 -
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If fighting close range ships the min recons can render 4-5 ships completely useless. ----
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari NO WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARE SPELLED WITH THE NUMBER "8" IN THEM GODDAMNIT!
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.25 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg What the real problem is is the minnie sabre, 3 mid slots for a boosting cruiser o_0, what the **** is that about?
Huh? The Sabre is the Minmatar Interdictor, and it has 4 med slots, not 3. If you were thinking of the Scimitar (that's my guess based on your wording ("boosting cruiser")), it has 5 med slots, not 3.
My bad, the scythe...besides, I said boosting cruiser, not destroyer. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.25 20:44:00 -
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Minmatar recons are a dread's best friend Tbh the whole minmatar line of recons and command ships are so so so good for the gang it's unreal.
Oh but yeah don't buy them, sucky... keep prices down.
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Zephirz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.25 21:59:00 -
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yeah bought one... and it sucks really bad. can fly it in a month but im just gonna reproces and build some ruptures i think :\ way to expensive for their usefullness tbh... better of training for amarr recons *nod*
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