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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.26 03:39:00 -
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key. hey. i drop these observator deep space probes, scans. it gives me a spot that i warp to and those off you who knows how far off you'll get knows. it's accuracy is 90aus. are these 90aus in any direction or is it corresponding to where the object is? cause when i get to this spot and drop 3x192au probes a normal thinking misses would believe that these probes would find the same object since the accu is 90au's. or am i thinking totally off here?
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.26 03:56:00 -
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You are using the probes the wrong way.
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.26 04:00:00 -
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please explain then. what i should be using deep space ones for? and what it is i'm doing wrong
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.26 04:52:00 -
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You should go and read the probes stickies in the ships and modules forums.
AFAIK the observator probes are useless, 90 au inaccuracy is retarded.
One way to do what you want is to use your scanner to locate your target. Using a module like a shield booster to drain your cap (cause trying to bookmark in warp seems futile in a frig) till you get in range 70 million or less. Drop 3 3au probes.
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 07:49:00 -
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Probes (except for observators) don't scan a bubble around them. They scan an area between them (the triangle between the three probes) which can be of a certain size (e.g. 192AU). Additionally they scan around 50-100mil km over the edges of that triangle as well as 0.5AU up and 0.5AU down. So if you drop them all in 1 place, you will be able to scan an area 0.5AU up, 0.5AU down and 50-100mil km to the sides.. aka very small.
That's how I understand probes after my experiences with them. With Kali there should be a new system introduced. Hopefully one that still requires thinking so not everyone will be as good as everyone else at probing. Forsch Defender of the empire
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.26 10:38:00 -
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To be 'sure' of a probe you need to: Launch observator. Scan. Warp to location. Launch 192AU probe. Do this 3 times. Scan on your 192 AU probes. Warp, launch 48AU probe. Repeat 3 times. And again for 12s And again for 3s.
In theory, this is a guaranteed success. In practice probes aren't 100% reliable.
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:08:00 -
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The distance you get with a observetor is random, anything from the same grid up to 90au. So with a bit of luck (or patiens) you can get a spot close enough to drop 3au probes from with just observetors.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:11:00 -
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the new system is 3d so should work much better
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:15:00 -
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you only need one observator to scan. it is used to obtain points in which you can drop next grade probe. So probably all the points Observator gives are on one plane, which allows you to scan further using triangulation probes. though sometimes it doesn't work quite as expected, so you'll need patience.
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord the new system is 3d so should work much better
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus To be 'sure' of a probe you need to: Launch observator. Scan. Warp to location. Launch 192AU probe. Do this 3 times. Scan on your 192 AU probes. Warp, launch 48AU probe. Repeat 3 times. And again for 12s And again for 3s.
In theory, this is a guaranteed success. In practice probes aren't 100% reliable.
Just one question....given that the Observator probes are the only 3D probes, I assume that their "up to 90au" innaccuracy is also in a 3D enviroment? ie, one could dump you 50 au over the object, the next 14 au under it, which would render scanning with 192's from those spots completely inneffective, given that all onther probes only have a 1au vertical scan range? ---------------- ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate. Contact Via EVE-Mail. |
Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Miss Overlord the new system is 3d so should work much better
Its just raw sexyness
Does it still require some skill or can anyone do it right away? By skill I don't mean an Eve skill that can just be trained but some logical thinking. As buggy as the old system is, at least this distinguished good from bad probers.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.26 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Miss Overlord the new system is 3d so should work much better
Its just raw sexyness
Is there a basic explanation of its functioning somewhere? I saw a screenshot a while ago of 'scan-bubbles' but don't remember a description of how it works or is different from the current system.
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:37:00 -
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so the observators scans in a sphere, up and down and to the sides. while the 192s scan on a flat line around the probe? could this explain why i can scan a shuttle with the observators and land 90au's away from it and drop 192s and don't find it at all?
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:42:00 -
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indeed it would. I suggest you wait for kali to go into advanced messing with probes
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Too Kind
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Too Kind on 26/09/2006 18:25:32
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
AFAIK the observator probes are useless, 90 au inaccuracy is retarded.
No: 1) They are useful to create good safespots 2a) They are the only means to get close enough to a real deep safe to use 192AU probes (e.g. a safe that is 500 AU out ) 2b) They let you overcome the problem that 192 AU probes don't seem to work in a sphere. Without observators you would have no starting points to place the 192AU probes to bust a good safe.
Or in other words: To get 192 AU probes to work, you must put them close enough to the target and it seems you need to spread them out, especially up/down (z-axis), with the target somewhere in between. The only way to create spots for 192AU probes to bust a good safe is by using observators.
But it's still a pain and usually takes much too long. Anyway, it will be changed in Kali. -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111 |
INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.26 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Too Kind Edited by: Too Kind on 26/09/2006 18:25:32
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
AFAIK the observator probes are useless, 90 au inaccuracy is retarded.
No: 1) They are useful to create good safespots 2a) They are the only means to get close enough to a real deep safe to use 192AU probes (e.g. a safe that is 500 AU out ) 2b) They let you overcome the problem that 192 AU probes don't seem to work in a sphere. Without observators you would have no starting points to place the 192AU probes to bust a good safe.
Or in other words: To get 192 AU probes to work, you must put them close enough to the target and it seems you need to spread them out, especially up/down (z-axis), with the target somewhere in between. The only way to create spots for 192AU probes to bust a good safe is by using observators.
But it's still a pain and usually takes much too long. Anyway, it will be changed in Kali.
cool. explained alot. and i'm doing progress. thank you very much
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