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XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:43:00 - [1] who would win?
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:49:00 - [2] 96% vs em ftw...
ArchenTheGreat Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.09.28 11:49:00 - [3] The more interesting question is BS vs Titan. Sure you can't scramble Titan but it seems you can kill it quite fast. I think you can even try to tank his doomsday weapon because it deals only one damage type. For me HP for a Titan is a bit low for a ship which costs 160bil. Displaimer: all this above is a wild guess since I didn't run the numbers.
Tehra Neru	Posted - 2006.09.28 12:20:00 - [4] Just place full citadel launchers on the titan (leviathan) and soften up the BS, then finnish it off with a DD weapon.
Aurora Tagan Havoc Inc	Posted - 2006.09.28 12:24:00 - [5] Don't the Titans have the 'I Win' (Doomsday Device) Button on them
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.09.28 12:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Aurora Tagan Don't the Titans have the 'I Win' (Doomsday Device) Button on them A Capital ship is just going to laugh at you for firing off a DDay Device at it. Carrier would take a fair whack of damage, but not enough to kill it. ---------------- ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate. Contact Via EVE-Mail.
Cupdeez	Posted - 2006.09.28 14:14:00 - [7] on the test server a DEV was in a titan and was tanking about 10 BS with out problem.. He was also able to use his doomsday weapon every few mins. Fully tanked raven/Mega/Apoc could take 1 hit from this doomsday weapon. The results was the BS had less then 1/2 structure. The next time he fired the weapon we all popped.
Magunus The Forsakened Few The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.09.28 14:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Cupdeez on the test server a DEV was in a titan and was tanking about 10 BS with out problem.. He was also able to use his doomsday weapon every few mins. Fully tanked raven/Mega/Apoc could take 1 hit from this doomsday weapon. The results was the BS had less then 1/2 structure. The next time he fired the weapon we all popped. Devs cheat on the test server for testing purposes. There's a 3600 second (1 hour) refire delay shown on the doomsday weapon. Tanking the battleships doesn't suprise me, though. --- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'
Wilfan Ret'nub Singularity.	Posted - 2006.09.28 16:00:00 - [9] Considering that even a carrier can tank like mad, that Amarr Titan can run 3 cap reps indefinitely and that Titan's DPS is nothing to write home about: The one with better support fleet But you already knew that, right? ------ No ISK, no fun
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.09.28 17:28:00 - [10] question is who would win... and 25 fighters is what im talkin about
Benglada Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:02:00 - [11] probably the mother ship.. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:07:00 - [12] The mothership. Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected]) RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Horza Otho Minmatar Silver Star Federation	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:10:00 - [13] neither wud win, titan cant dish damage to break the mothership and same goes for the motherships damage to a titan
Rannoc	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:27:00 - [14] 1 on 1 the Mothership would win. Even if the Titan had 6 CapReps it cannot keep up with the DPS of 15 fighters. But the Titan was not designed for 1 on 1. It was ment to remove large amounts of non-capitol ships. --Rannoc
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:30:00 - [15] Does anyone else get the feeling that the DD would kill most the fighters? Quote: Basically we've established, EVE physics > Amarr
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:32:00 - [16] Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 28/09/2006 20:33:30 Originally by: Horza Otho neither wud win, titan cant dish damage to break the mothership and same goes for the motherships damage to a titan how do you figure? the titan has 6 dual giga pulse lasers and a doomsday and some drones(can only field 5 heavies at a time but its still 5 heavies) i've honestly never tested firing dual giga on a carrier but i don't see why it wouldn't work maybe a dread pilot can give us more info on this beyong that the titan will outtank a mothership 70000hp(titan) vs 55000hp(mothership) amarrian of course
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Angus McLean Does anyone else get the feeling that the DD would kill most the fighters? not to mention this :)
Kate Darieux Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:34:00 - [18] Assuming ships wouldn't warp out, titan would win. DD would kill the fighters, and then the turrets on the titan would finish the mothership off, assuming that's enough DPS to break its tank.
BustyBounty Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Commander Thrawn Originally by: Angus McLean Does anyone else get the feeling that the DD would kill most the fighters? not to mention this :) you can fit 50 fighters in a nyx so the mothership would have fighters again for after the doomsday ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.
Kate Darieux Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:38:00 - [20] Originally by: BustyBounty Originally by: Commander Thrawn Originally by: Angus McLean Does anyone else get the feeling that the DD would kill most the fighters? not to mention this :) you can fit 50 fighters in a nyx so the mothership would have fighters again for after the doomsday Good point, in that case i think the mothership would win.
Bazman Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 - [21] In a practical test on Sisi, both ships tanked each other with no problems. dur ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente Whiner. Minmatar Whining is currently in training.
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.28 20:49:00 - [22] Um. A titan has less firepower than a dread in siege mode and you can't even kill a stock t2 fitted carrier with 2 dreads in siege mode so no, the titan can't kill that mothership. Can't be arsed to run the numbers but I'm just as certain that a mothership won't be able to kill even a dual repping titan.
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc.	Posted - 2006.09.28 21:18:00 - [23] well then i think it would come down to numbers find out A) how much raw dps does a dual giga pulse laser do on a mothership can the mothership out tank this b) how long can a mothership tank the dual giga with 1 doomsday launch vs how long the titan can tank the mothership
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.28 23:57:00 - [24] Put my money on the mothership, just fit all its highs with Nos and/or Neuts, fighters for damage, and a awesome tank. CEO - Art of War
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.29 00:05:00 - [25] Cant see it happening tbh, It's like Godzilla va Kingkong, nice to speculate on but aint gonna happen. Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:23:00 - [26] I have actually had the opportunity to fight an Avatar using our Nyx on the test server. The result was a stalemate. Neither ship can break the others tank and neither will be able to neutralize the others cap either. Essentially, both ships can tank each other until DT. The firepower of a Titan is essentially 2 Dreads that aren't in Siege mode (they can fit 5-6 XL Gun as I recall but no siege module of course). The Mothership has more firepower at its disposal at maximum skill level, but still, the Titan will tank it. The Superweapon of a Titan will not hit a MS for more than 20-30k (Depending on damage type of super weapon). The Establishment is at your service...
TheKiller8 Caldari S.A.S	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:24:00 - [27] Neither would win. A titan can tank up to 10.000 damage per second which is much much more than any mothership can dish out. The Nyx can't tank as much but the titan is lucky if he can break the 1000 dps barrier since without siege mode they're really really crap at doing damage. Nos'ing the titan wouldn't do much as their cap recharge can get up to 500cap/s with a proper fitting. The super weapon wouldn't hurt the mothership enough to make a difference but it would take out the fighters. So after a while you'd probably have a titan taking pop shots at the mothership and the mothership looking stupid at the titan as it has ran out of fighters/drones. CLICK ME! CLICK ME! CLICK ME! CLICK ME!
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:28:00 - [28] Edited by: Shin Ra on 29/09/2006 01:28:13 Edited by: Shin Ra on 29/09/2006 01:27:52 Originally by: ElCoCo Um. A titan has less firepower than a dread in siege mode and you can't even kill a stock t2 fitted carrier with 2 dreads in siege mode so no, the titan can't kill that mothership. Can't be arsed to run the numbers but I'm just as certain that a mothership won't be able to kill even a dual repping titan. Thats wrong. Dreads can kill motherships.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:37:00 - [29] Edited by: Ange1 on 29/09/2006 01:38:19 Originally by: Shin Ra Thats wrong. Dreads can kill motherships. You will need more than one Dread pilot. The only Dread that managed to break the tank of our Nyx on its own was being flown by a GM flying a Blaster Moros with the uberest mods and tracking (test server again of course). Even then it takes quite a while. The Establishment is at your service...
Sessho Seki	Posted - 2006.09.29 01:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Deja Thoris Cant see it happening tbh, It's like Godzilla va Kingkong, nice to speculate on but aint gonna happen. King Kong vs Godzilla seeing as that did happen and all...

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