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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:49:00 -
[901]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
OFC. If someone takes a screen shot of your alliance's corp leadership instructing ASCN members to use poor sportsmanship the big problem there is definatly the person who took the screenshot and not the person who gave the order.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:50:00 -
[902]
may the week minded fall, and litter the space forrest with frozen meat.
After perusing the recent realse of notes, I am quite confident one side will be dropping better loot, I wish that side the best of luck as I have only ever seen them fight with the right mind set.
fight as fighting is intended, there will always be spies, there may/maynot always be devs playing but I bet they want to fly with people that fight the right way.
fight for your eve soul dont die in a lame set up with a crap tacktic.
as for the lag u will encounter,... I hope it all works out, I reed about this great war to come and then lag.... and today I have had one of the best fights ... they died hard it felt right
they take thier souls,
but not the corpses.
good luck and fight right.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:50:00 -
[903]
Originally by: KSUDruid My private affairs are just that.. Mine. This includes things like where I work, where I live, and what I choose to do with my free time, such as playing video games. I would think most people in this game would subscribe to that though. That you would even consider violating the line between Real-Life and In-Game frankly makes me want to puke.
Their dev names are not their real life names.
I'm glad to see that my comment has meant that you need to seriously think about what is In-Game and what is Real-Life.
Now take that knowledge and apply it to your screenshot collection.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:52:00 -
[904]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
OFC. If someone takes a screen shot of your alliance's corp leadership instructing ASCN members to use poor sportsmanship the big problem there is definatly the person who took the screenshot and not the person who gave the order.
where did I say I have a problem with people posting screenshots?
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:54:00 -
[905]
Originally by: Afonso Henriques Edited by: Afonso Henriques on 30/09/2006 00:38:49 I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
It makes me sad to see that kind of thing. It ruins the gaming experience for everyone logged into Eve by sinking to that levle guys.
I'm not sayign ascn are bad guys, quite the contrary. I know they pride themselves on playing the game well. I would just hope for their sake, they would make a public statement regarding this allegation.
Actually, CYVOK got wind of that when it happened, and he sent out an alliance mail telling them (the corp was not named, it was a general mail) to cease and desist and delete the BMs.
No, I don't have a screenie of the mail.
And Druid, dude, you're really missing the point Riddari is trying to make. :P His point is the same as yours: Out of game material should be private, and not waved around for the entire community to see. That includes forum posts on private forums between friends. Would you like it if somebody took pictures (screenshots) of your IMs (or texts, or anything) between you and your friends, the posted them on the bulletin board at work? ----------
I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say. |
Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:54:00 -
[906]
hmmm,, keep CYVOK quote or use the brand new Riddari Bob are devs quote... tough choice
you cant see the possibility out of the 5k players you have, not a single character of you might be a developer or a GM? It could be so, but does it really matter? I find it really hard to believe that he would risk his job to gain an advantage, would you?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:55:00 -
[907]
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names.
I'm glad to see that my comment has meant that you need to seriously think about what is In-Game and what is Real-Life.
Now take that knowledge and apply it to your screenshot collection.
Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters? You just don't know when to stop, do you?
I have never EVER had to question what the line between real life and In-Game was. I'd still buy anyone (save for possibly you now) a Beer if we ever met somewhere.
Screenshots of forums, concerning IN-GAME THINGS are not considered real life. You say something, using your in-game characters name, on a forum regarding the game, and it's perfectly valid. So far we have the #1 Guy and the #2 Guy in ASCN saying it's a legal tactic for you to Lag your enemies, and crash nodes, in order to keep your space. I think that's perfectly obvious to anyone who can open their eyes. This is all In-Game. Every-single-bit of it.
Go ahead and try and counter something else now.
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:56:00 -
[908]
Edited by: Reddari on 30/09/2006 00:56:47
Originally by: KSUDruid Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters?
No.
But a nice spin you put on it. 2 points.
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splattercat
Special Tactics and Operations Party O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:56:00 -
[909]
Can i just point out that most of eve dont care what side of you WCS huging nubs win so long as you dont cash the server!
GOOD luck all, most of us are watching this with big LOL in corp/allance chat.
YES i have poped both bob and asvn with wcs in low ( mostly ASCN) but i have bob coz evol cant zip the smack tbh.
Honist words from a non combatent in this, and if you want o come after me for this this then good luck i wish you well in this GAME, as its is a GAME, and this GAME is something we all do to enjoy. i realy think bob will get a smack in the face over this, ascn in there home area wont run or blob, thay will stand and fight. GL all hope none of you are standing after this. Wov and respect Cat. ( no my allance knows not what i post, this is from a player haveing a LMFAO at this)
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:57:00 -
[910]
Originally by: Virtuozzo By Jove, I can't resist, this must be what it feels like for the forum warriors!
And again!
No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:00:00 -
[911]
Edited by: Coasterbrian on 30/09/2006 01:01:34 Hey Riddari, mate, you need to step back from the computer for a couple minutes. You're going to say something you may regret later.
EDIT: Oh, and BoB is hardly the only alliance in this game that spies. It's really a moot point. ----------
I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say. |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:00:00 -
[912]
For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Reddari Edited by: Reddari on 30/09/2006 00:56:47
Originally by: KSUDruid Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters?
No.
But a nice spin you put on it. 2 points.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that BoB is the only Alliance that might have Dev's GM's errr and who else oh yeah ISD people amongst their members ? Dude wake up and snap out of it, im pretty F'in sure there is atleast a few in ASCN as well and alot of the other alliances, now does that mean that those people volunteer their real identity ? Seriously get a grip and think a little before you make such a threat. Because trust me if a witch hun for Dev's playing eve starts its not gonna be BoB that has the most of them nor will it make ASCN look any more innocent. Now take your sore losing butt back ingame and keep your head in the game.
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:03:00 -
[914]
Originally by: Reddari For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works. --------------
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[915]
The lag shown from the Axe movie snippet shows its gonna be one of 'those wars' so i think the forums are just gonna get worse with accusation of bm whoring, lag generation etc cos we dont seem to be able to get the sort of fleet battles we would like from this.
disappointed that alot of players on both sides seem to want to act like the a prom queen on the blob but i suppose you are all just keyboard warriors who get a kick from it.
I went out tonight, had some good jars with the guys and we all had a good laugh at the sort of people you must be to be acting like this. "omg cheat! nub, looser hax, see you soon etc" all priceless fun (laughed so hard i peed a little, my friends dont play eve, they dont get it at all infact so i have fun telling them the sort of L337 dudes that play it)
With evefest a month away i look forward to laughing with some of you face to face for the behaviour you are showing here in this thread, it is without doubt the most cringworthy, sad and staggering display of pettyness i have ever seen. the saddest thing is that to some of you this game is all you have isnt it? your lives are dead unless you feel like someone in this game right? so you feel the need to take it so personally that you actually HATE the person on the other team right? you want to riddicule them and drive them from the game right? you want to destroy them?
Pretty scarey stuff, isnt this how serial killers are made? extreme reaction to minutae
So dont take it too seriously guys, after all one day the servers will switch off and all your left with is you, and if that turns out to be a sad pathetic bag of crap with an attitude then wtf you done with your life in the years playing eh?
Expand your mind, not your ego, try to have fun and realise that the game cant handle what we want it to handle. 10 v 10 anyone?
CEO Pyrex
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[916]
Originally by: Reddari You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Weve never said we were Angels, we are bad peeps. Can we move on now ?
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[917]
Originally by: Coasterbrian Hey Riddari, mate, you need to step back from the computer for a couple minutes. You're going to say something you may regret later.
I don't know.
I'm relatively pleased to shock them. They needed a jolt to see that the world isn't a flat piece of paper marked BOB.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
That means it's starting to fit in with the current state of the forums realy
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: CEO Pyrex the saddest thing is that to some of you this game is all you have isnt it? your lives are dead unless you feel like someone in this game right? so you feel the need to take it so personally that you actually HATE the person on the other team right? you want to riddicule them and drive them from the game right? you want to destroy them?
Pretty scarey stuff, isnt this how serial killers are made? extreme reaction to minutae
So dont take it too seriously guys, after all one day the servers will switch off and all your left with is you, and if that turns out to be a sad pathetic bag of crap with an attitude then wtf you done with your life in the years playing eh?
.. oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
ASCN posts are getting worse and worse by the minute......
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: Kryztal No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
That means it's starting to fit in with the current state of the forums realy
So you decide to just add to it insted of just ignoring it ? Meh not bothering me
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:08:00 -
[922]
Edited by: Coasterbrian on 30/09/2006 01:09:46
Originally by: KSUDruid Screenshots of forums, concerning IN-GAME THINGS are not considered real life. You say something, using your in-game characters name, on a forum regarding the game, and it's perfectly valid.
So screenshots of your RL IMs with your friends, concerning your RL work, using your RL name means that said communications can be made public to everybody in your workplace? I know it's poor form to create parallels between RL and a game, but I also think posting screenshots of or quoting private communications in a public forum is poor form as well.
Again, I don't have a problem with spying, everybody does it, I'm just not a big fan of publicising private comms.
And Riddari, I only stay step back because you and Druid are both getting a little hot under the collar, and while it's relatively amusing to read, it's becoming of neither of you. ----------
I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say. |
KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Reddari Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
And
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names..
How Else am I, or anyone supposed to interpret this other than you're going to reveal Dev's REAL NAMES and who they are IN BOB.
And Coaster, I apologize bud, I missed your post earlier, I'll send you an evemail when I get home in a bit
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
AnA1t
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
[924]
All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
[925]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
No mate diplomacy does'nt come into this. Threatening to reveal the main characters of devs has nothing to do with diplomacy. --------------
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:11:00 -
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33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply! ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names..
How Else am I, or anyone supposed to interpret this other than you're going to reveal Dev's REAL NAMES and who they are IN BOB.
I would have put say Player A = Dev X
Neither includes their real life name, so it doesn't break EULA.
It is a moot point but I'm fascinated to see how you came to the above conclusion.
My forum-berserk mode is off. It was a good sprint
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Reddari For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works.
Excuse me. Who says you or any others dictates how things work in this game, or in RL for that matter? How one executes a threat is under the one who threat`s discretion. But again, mostly everyone will utilize every possible resource and utility to ensure its survival. In war, laws (rules) are usually a thing one forgets and hides away.
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: AnA1t All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
Erm who said we didnt like ASCN ? We are here for the fun and challanges this game has to offer. Nothing personal, people have been telling us to go after ASCN for such a long time now. And yes calling us cowards for not doing so, we didnt care. Its just come down to one alliance that can actually give us a challange and arent afraid to bring it. Should be fun for both sides and forum wars are a part of the game. Looking forward to fighting them and having some heated forum arguments.
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[930]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
I pity the fools who checked in. --
Nobody stays behind |
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