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Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.01 03:15:51 -
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Hello forums o/
I had an idea a little while ago and want some feedback on it.
Okay, so basically the idea was to form a corp full of traders. Why you ask? Because you can't have an alt in every system, can you? Basically the corp members would help each other spot deals and what not.
For example: You have a nifty little spreadsheet that you can use to compare the prices of any two systems you want. You use this spreadsheet to spot price differences that you can make a profit off of, but there's a catch: data isn't always up-to-date. So how can you tell if there is money to be made? Unless you have a character in the system you want to check, you can't. Often enough this is where you move on to the next potential profit. But wait, there's more! Now that you're in this awesome new corp with all these other traders, you can ask if someone is in that system and see if the data is up-to-date! If it is, then you can go ahead with your trading and cut the info provider in on some of your profit! If it isn't, you haven't really lost anything.
It would kind of work like that.
Since this corp wouldn't really have any source of income and nothing to actually steal (everyone owns their own assets), the only API that would be needed is wallet and maybe mail, to make sure you cut your provider in on an agreed amount. There would also be some kind of monthly fee (not decided yet) for being in the corp, because it's a service.
What do you think? Good idea? Bad one? Feedback and suggestions are appreciated.
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Dimiitrii Montross
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Posted - 2015.02.02 11:08:14 -
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I like this idea. I do a lot of salvaging and often pick up items that are worth a fair few. besides that, I recently learned that little aspect of trading, where if you purchase something in one area of space it may be worth more in another area of space. For example, I purchased a hornet 2 drone in Vuorassi (caldari space) for around 20,000 and sold in for about 8 million in hilaban (amarr space). so knowing now that this is actually a common thing to see, I'd like to get in on that. I'll be on around 5:00 PM today (I work until 4:30pm and it's 506 AM at the time of this writing) CST if you want to shoot me a message. I'm already running a corp but so far haven't given it any specific direction as far as EVE goes and I think this would work out nicely.
"Never harm anyone or anything. But if someone harms you, destroy them!" - Montross Creed
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Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.05 09:16:20 -
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I'm glad that you like my idea. You gotta love those nifty little cheap items that can profit for so much, right? That's exactly what I'm talking about though! If a small group of us traders banded together, we could easily spot deals like that all over the place and profit mutually!
One thing though, I definitely would have to make the corp myself, haha. This is EVE after all, trust no one! Not even your own alts!!
Before starting this thing up, I'd like to see just how many people would be interested, so if you're serious, let's give it some time (1-2 weeks) before we get anything rolling.
So, if you're interested, leave a post so we know! The more the merrier, right? |
Dimiitrii Montross
GNGPSTL
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:57:44 -
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well, personally i agree, however i won't be leaving my corp. I do want to be involved though, and of course alliance plans can be hashed out as possibilities :)
"Never harm anyone or anything. But if someone harms you, destroy them!" - Montross Creed
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Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:15:49 -
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I totally understand, and yeah, alliance is always an option.
If you have a spare character slot open, you could always just make another character dedicated to trading/hauling and they could always join the corp. |
Dimiitrii Montross
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Posted - 2015.02.08 20:58:18 -
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That I can do.
"Never harm anyone or anything. But if someone harms you, destroy them!" - Montross Creed
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Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.11 12:22:27 -
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It's official! If this corp sounds like something you might be interested in, send me a message or drop by the recruiting channel, 'USMU Recruiting', in-game and say hi!
[USMU] United Space Merchant Union |
Han Chang
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:49:41 -
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This is a good idea but I fear that putting it into practice will be easier said then done. It will require a lot of organization and altruistic minded traders, along with an extensive network system of intel that connects all (or many) of New Eden's regions, along with an accurate and up-to-date management of trade products each player is working through so corp members aren't competing with each other.
Let us know how it works out. |
Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
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Posted - 2015.02.22 02:50:14 -
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I like your idea's general outline. The need for trust within the trading corp has been pointed out by others. To reduce the trust requirement, you could use contracts within your corp like so:
When a trader finds local prices on an item that are well above or below Jita prices, they post a want-to-buy or want-to-sell private contract, available only to others in the trading corp and with a little profit for the poster baked in. A fellow trader in a different region with the opposite price spread from Jita can accept the contract and make a profit moving the goods from one place to another.
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Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:00:57 -
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Han Chang wrote:This is a good idea but I fear that putting it into practice will be easier said then done. It will require a lot of organization and altruistic minded traders, along with an extensive network system of intel that connects all (or many) of New Eden's regions, along with an accurate and up-to-date management of trade products each player is working through so corp members aren't competing with each other.
Let us know how it works out.
Agreed that it will take trust, but the promise of wealth can unite even the worst of enemies. When it comes to the organization, I believe a simple spreadsheet would be sufficient. It would simply have the names of items and whomever is actively trading said item and where they are trading it. Quite honestly though, what's wrong with a little competition? The corp isn't what stands to gain here, it's the individual.
Artemis Houssa wrote:I like your idea's general outline. The need for trust within the trading corp has been pointed out by others. To reduce the trust requirement, you could use contracts within your corp like so:
When a trader finds local prices on an item that are well above or below Jita prices, they post a want-to-buy or want-to-sell private contract, available only to others in the trading corp and with a little profit for the poster baked in. A fellow trader in a different region with the opposite price spread from Jita can accept the contract and make a profit moving the goods from one place to another.
If I'm understanding correctly, I see a potential flaw. Let me give an example:
I'm in Amarr and item X has sell orders for 80 Isk (keeping it small for simplicity's sake). I notice that Jita has buy orders for 100 Isk. Are you saying that I should buy a stock of X and put it in a contract for, let's say, 90 Isk? That way I make 10 Isk per unit without having to transport the goods myself? Is that what you mean?
If that's the case, this is where I see the flaw. Nothing is stopping whomever sees my contract from simply coming to Amarr, buying X, and transporting X to Jita to sell, completely ignoring my contract.
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Artemis Houssa
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Posted - 2015.02.25 12:34:46 -
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Casshern Price wrote: If I'm understanding correctly, I see a potential flaw. Let me give an example:
I'm in Amarr and item X has sell orders for 80 Isk (keeping it small for simplicity's sake). I notice that Jita has buy orders for 100 Isk. Are you saying that I should buy a stock of X and put it in a contract for, let's say, 90 Isk? That way I make 10 Isk per unit without having to transport the goods myself? Is that what you mean?
If that's the case, this is where I see the flaw. Nothing is stopping whomever sees my contract from simply coming to Amarr, buying X, and transporting X to Jita to sell, completely ignoring my contract.
That is indeed a potential flaw. The contract system would only be guaranteed to work if the seller could buy out the entire market order that they found in their region. |
Casshern Price
Controlled Chemical Exposure Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.02.26 08:18:17 -
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I'm sure that would work with some items, but definitely not with the majority of them, so it kind of becomes impractical.
I appreciate the suggestion though. |
Conflict Engaged
Southern Collective The Southern Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.02 00:36:51 -
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A great idea. It would be even better if you did distribution with the corp also, and have an all-around provisions corp, and maybe expand your borders, and not just operate in the HighSec trade hubs. Inter-Hub trading can earn a lot of ISK, and would be a great way for your corp to do more as a corp. I know that there are NulSec trade hubs, also, which could earn you serious ISK. I'm currently helping lead a Providence NulSec alliance, and one problem we face is the low supply of goods at Provi trade hubs. Do some looking around, and feel free to contact me in-game for some help if you need it. Fly safe and good luck. o7 |
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