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Maddox Sauselein
Rabid Dogz Mining
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:23:41 -
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Moon mining is become very stagnant all the best minerals have been claimed and good minerals a few and far between.
I think that moons should only give gas's and 8s for anything above that we should have to scan down and mine Comets.
Have them come around ever few days, have ice mining in the tail sections and a mobile structure to extract the minerals for the rest of the comet. After the comet is depleted it vanishes and circles back around in a few days. Leaving moons for mostly reactors and silos.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:44:18 -
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Here we go again...
Though, why would moons only have gasses? That doesn't scientifically make any sense. |
Ben Ishikela
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Posted - 2015.02.02 07:56:33 -
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Passive income is a lucrative conflct driver if it is attackable of some sort. => no. |
Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2015.02.02 18:39:35 -
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+1 for comet mining (Which really should have gone in the comet mining megathread, but that's aside)
-1 for removal of moongoo from moons. Eve has few enough conflict drivers as it.
Comet mining should be a supplement to moons, a pressure valve from the static availability of moon goo. Not the sole source.
Here's the main comet mining thread btw.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
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Lugh Crow-Slave
650
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Posted - 2015.02.03 06:29:27 -
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Anhenka wrote:+1 for comet mining (Which really should have gone in the comet mining megathread, but that's aside) -1 for removal of moongoo from moons. Eve has few enough conflict drivers as it. Comet mining should be a supplement to moons, a pressure valve from the static availability of moon goo. Not the sole source. Here's the main comet mining thread btw. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
What he said with the addition of you need to be careful with removing moon mining you may not have played back when even a T2 frig was only for the very rich but let me tell you it sucks
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1072
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Posted - 2015.02.03 15:09:56 -
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Moon mining already has a relief valve in Alchemy. A couple of those alchemies are actually fairly lucrative. Not like R64s. But still somewhat profitable.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
842
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Posted - 2015.02.03 16:12:55 -
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Are you guys really touting moon goo as a conflict driver?? There are years and years of proof that it isn't. The high end moons have been on lock down for most of their existance. There is not fighting over them. They are held and not contested.
The low end moons are easy enough to come by that they aren't fought over either.
If you want to say moon goo is a conflict driver, please provide some proof of actual conflict over said goo.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2015.02.03 16:47:24 -
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I would drop raw moon materials and replace them with P0s, which are then reacted at the POS in varying combination and efficiency, depending on what processed material you want. The rarer materials need certain combinations of P0s that only appear on those moons currently native with them. Maybe reduce the fitting need for moon miners to allow a greater combination of P0s to be effectively be mined.
Anyone could then set up a POS in low-sec and haul P0s to it for reacting, thus ending the bottlenecks and monopolies. Alchemy can then be retired.
Also we could finally rename P0 'Noble Gas' into 'Atmospheric Gasses' and I no longer get a aneurysm when I get Oxygen out of noble gasses.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
973
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Posted - 2015.02.03 16:57:49 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Are you guys really touting moon goo as a conflict driver?? There are years and years of proof that it isn't. The high end moons have been on lock down for most of their existance. There is not fighting over them. They are held and not contested.
The low end moons are easy enough to come by that they aren't fought over either.
If you want to say moon goo is a conflict driver, please provide some proof of actual conflict over said goo.
Darkness/Kadeshi and a local lowsec Russian coalition have been fighting back and forth over control of the lowsec R64's in Aridia for months now.
I dunno where you are, but in places where it's not a massive blue blob there's plenty of fighting over moons. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
842
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Posted - 2015.02.03 17:47:39 -
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Anhenka wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Are you guys really touting moon goo as a conflict driver?? There are years and years of proof that it isn't. The high end moons have been on lock down for most of their existance. There is not fighting over them. They are held and not contested.
The low end moons are easy enough to come by that they aren't fought over either.
If you want to say moon goo is a conflict driver, please provide some proof of actual conflict over said goo.
Darkness/Kadeshi and a local lowsec Russian coalition have been fighting back and forth over control of the lowsec R64's in Aridia for months now. I dunno where you are, but in places where it's not a massive blue blob there's plenty of fighting over moons.
OK, I'll bite. What percentage of R64s would you estimate as being fought over? Just to put it in perspective.
And, as a follow on, what percentage of null conflict in the last 5 years has been over moon goo?
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Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
974
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:22:11 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Anhenka wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Are you guys really touting moon goo as a conflict driver?? There are years and years of proof that it isn't. The high end moons have been on lock down for most of their existance. There is not fighting over them. They are held and not contested.
The low end moons are easy enough to come by that they aren't fought over either.
If you want to say moon goo is a conflict driver, please provide some proof of actual conflict over said goo.
Darkness/Kadeshi and a local lowsec Russian coalition have been fighting back and forth over control of the lowsec R64's in Aridia for months now. I dunno where you are, but in places where it's not a massive blue blob there's plenty of fighting over moons. OK, I'll bite. What percentage of R64s would you estimate as being fought over? Just to put it in perspective. And, as a follow on, what percentage of null conflict in the last 5 years has been over moon goo?
I don't recall saying that moon goo was the main conflict driver in EVE. I said that it is A conflict driver.
I would say moongoo has been a contributing factor to a large amount of conflict in the past, especially a lot of the territory squabbles in the north during the Tech throne time period.
Maybe wherever you live everyone is squatting fat and happy on all their moons without conflict, but it's definitely not that everywhere especially in lowsec. |
oohthey ioh
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:27:41 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Are you guys really touting moon goo as a conflict driver?? There are years and years of proof that it isn't. The high end moons have been on lock down for most of their existance. There is not fighting over them. They are held and not contested.
The low end moons are easy enough to come by that they aren't fought over either.
If you want to say moon goo is a conflict driver, please provide some proof of actual conflict over said goo.
say that to the goons and nc. the goon are bashing there pos over the last few days |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
674
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Posted - 2015.02.05 04:12:13 -
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let's not subtract moon mning. moon mining can be interesting.. but adding comet mining is a GREAT IDEA.
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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