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Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:25:02 -
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First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why?
Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two?
And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec?
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Diana Nayli
Deadspace Monster Inc.
0
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:28:43 -
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First problem might fix better ship and skills. Second problem.... They said that they improved data site loot, so you might be just unlucky... And lastly, you can't use bubbles in low sec. |
Elyan Mishi
Vertical.
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:28:58 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why? Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two? And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec? Thx for reading
1st: **** skills and nullsec anoms are generally harder to scan than their hs cousins
2nd: datas are bad everywhere (edit: went through over a dozen datasites today in WH space and nothing was over a few million, compared to several 20mil+ relic sites)
3rd: can't use bubbles/bombs/titan doomsdays/cat farts in low/high |
Capt Handbanana
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:32:40 -
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Googles your friend, next time you're scanning, try fiddling with the CTRL/ALT keys. Pretty useful....
I like beer.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6479
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:35:39 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long...
For the record, I predicted exactly this complaint when they announced Odyssey.
No, it's not too hard, it's actually very easy. Imagine now having to move around each probe individually for the whole exercise, not just the last 15%, and that's how much easier you have it.
Data sites blow everywhere, but they're also virtually 100% risk free with very little effort, so the reward is balanced accordingly.
No, you can't deploy bubbles in lowsec.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8883
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:46:33 -
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No sympathy for you mate, I tried to teach my partner pre - odyssey probing so suck it up.
Also, none of those questions were sexy, I feel cheated.
I want a sexy dance from the op or my click back!
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19819
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:01:41 -
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Quote:Couple of sexy questions
Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why?Cry
Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two?
And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec?
Thx for readingLol
I see no mention of anything sexy. Nothing. No Jessica Alba, no New Megathron hull, not even mention of Ila Dace's exquisite 'torpedo skills'.. nothing. Lrn2Sexy.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1585
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:29:38 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... For the record, I predicted exactly this complaint when they announced Odyssey. No, it's not too hard, it's actually very easy. Imagine now having to move around each probe individually for the whole exercise, not just the last 15%, and that's how much easier you have it. Data sites blow everywhere, but they're also virtually 100% risk free with very little effort, so the reward is balanced accordingly. No, you can't deploy bubbles in lowsec.
I'm guessing the OP does not know how to work with group and still move individual...
Wait is that even possible now?
I used to hate the way the interface was used but with the new one I can't find reasons to complain. I always attribute stuff I can't get 100% on to my really average skill now while before I was pretty sure it was a combo of my skills trained and my issue with getting formation correct for a good scan. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6479
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:34:52 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... For the record, I predicted exactly this complaint when they announced Odyssey. No, it's not too hard, it's actually very easy. Imagine now having to move around each probe individually for the whole exercise, not just the last 15%, and that's how much easier you have it. Data sites blow everywhere, but they're also virtually 100% risk free with very little effort, so the reward is balanced accordingly. No, you can't deploy bubbles in lowsec. I'm guessing the OP does not know how to work with group and still move individual... Wait is that even possible now? I used to hate the way the interface was used but with the new one I can't find reasons to complain. I always attribute stuff I can't get 100% on to my really average skill now while before I was pretty sure it was a combo of my skills trained and my issue with getting formation correct for a good scan.
You can move probes independently by holding shift while you click and drag them.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Zura Namee
The Milkmen
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Posted - 2015.02.13 21:18:28 -
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Elyan Mishi wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why? Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two? And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec? Thx for reading 1st: **** skills and nullsec anoms are generally harder to scan than their hs cousins 2nd: datas are bad everywhere (edit: went through over a dozen datasites today in WH space and nothing was over a few million, compared to several 20mil+ relic sites) 3rd: can't use bubbles/bombs/titan doomsdays/cat farts in low/high
I thought DDs could be used in low again after phoebe? Or am I just crazy?
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.02.13 22:47:17 -
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Zura Namee wrote:I thought DDs could be used in low again after phoebe? Or am I just crazy? I can't speak to your sanity but they can now be used in lowsec post phoebe.
Also, there is a distinct lack of sexy in this thread.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2493
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Posted - 2015.02.13 22:48:44 -
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I got my lube out for this?!
Hello, hello again.
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Gorinia Sanford
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:02:30 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why? Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two? And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec? Thx for reading
As to your first question, I had the same problem. I attributed it to my skills not being up to par. THat and my equipment.
Second question, I have no idea.
And your final question, you can't use bubbles in low or high sec. Damn I hate those things. :) But now that I can fly an interceptor... |
Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:39:11 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:No sympathy for you mate, I tried to teach my partner pre - odyssey probing so suck it up.
Also, none of those questions were sexy, I feel cheated.
I want a sexy dance from the op or my click back!
Thx for the replies everyone
And to you sir,you are 100% right,let me hit you up with a nice dose of sexy.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6236
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:40:56 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:First one is,why sometimes when im exploring in nullsec and find an anomaly i cant scan it down?I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long... I do this in imicus with t1 probe launcher so im aware this problem can be solved by better gear or a better ship,but still just curious,cause i can scan about 95% of all other anomalies but sometimes this happens and i dunno why? Second one is why do data sites in nullsec blow so hard? From a relic site on average u get around 30 mil per site,but data site 3-4 mil,i dont understand why is there such a drastic diffrence between the two? And third one is about lowsec gate camping... I noticed in nullsec if a gate is camped there are usually a ton of bubbles around it which makes it kind hard to get in or out,but in lowsec i saw a bunch of gates camped,but never a bubble which makes it a lot easier to get away.Cant they use bubbles or something like that in lowsec? Thx for reading
Don't you want to know what I'm wearing?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
934
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Posted - 2015.02.14 08:38:03 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote: Also, there is a distinct lack of sexy in this thread.
Sorry I'm late.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.14 08:49:11 -
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Space ships are sexy, aren't they. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 09:14:52 -
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I've run plenty of null data sites and never had to move probes individually. I've encountered an unscannable sig in low but I believe that was a bug.
Exploration is hardly risk free. I've killed 2 asteros in the last week. They're like really easily spooked rats that have a 50% drop chance for SoE probe launchers. I'm probably going to start explorer hunting more often. Just watch dscan for (insert player name here)'s Astero. |
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.02.14 11:56:30 -
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Moved to Missions & Complexes.
I've also moved a couple off-topic posts.
Quote:27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
ISD Decoy
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2258
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:56:41 -
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Elyan Mishi wrote:nullsec anoms are generally harder to scan than their hs cousins
No they aren't. It's a common misperception but it's flat out wrong.
Sites in high, low, null, w-space, wherever -- they all have sig strengths divided into what we used to call bands when everything used to be neatly filtered using a single DSP. For instance, low sec 6/10s were on the 0.06 band. In null, they were easier to scan and lived on the 0.24 band (along with K-162s).
The lowest band when DSPs were terminated was for 10/10s in null and some gas sites in low. High sec only had data/relics there, but regardless, the level of difficulty in scanning a site on a given band didn't change from space to space and it still doesn't now. The only real difference I see is that there's a new band for Sleeper Caches slightly lower than the old 10/10 band.
By the by, band filtering does still work. You just have to properly calibrate your visuals. I can't imagine I'm the only who still cherry picks this way. |
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2015.02.18 06:57:45 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:No sympathy for you mate, I tried to teach my partner pre - odyssey probing so suck it up.
Also, none of those questions were sexy, I feel cheated.
I want a sexy dance from the op or my click back! Thx for the replies everyone And to you sir,you are 100% right,let me hit you up with a nice dose of sexy. [img]http://i.imgur.com/fOTGWzn.jpg[/img]
Yay, a link I clicked on and didn't regret clicking on. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
916
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Posted - 2015.02.18 15:26:52 -
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Diana Nayli wrote:They said that they improved data site loot, so you might be just unlucky... They didn't. Data site loot is still a joke. |
servalaan
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Posted - 2015.02.18 22:34:27 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:I get it down to about 85% but its almost impossible to get it to 100% unless i fiddle around with with each scanning probe which takes way too long...
You do know you can save probe grouping patterns.... right? So when you get down to 0.25 you can switch to a PRE SAVED tight probing pattern to eek out those last few %
If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen?
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Jeaile
OCBF
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:15:20 -
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If you are having trouble scanning down a null sec anom to only 85%, a) you have a terrible ship and equipment, and b) Improved and Standard Sleeper Caches would not be possible to scan down with that equipment. They came out at the end of last year |
Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted
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Posted - 2015.02.19 04:24:08 -
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1. If you find one of the new sleeper caches, those with moderate skills can be tough to scan down. Otherwise, use a ship with scan bonuses and get your scanning skills up.
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