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Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:31:00 - [31] Originally by: Dr Einkeisel hey if you want to make daily posts about your battles id be happy to read them :) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:31:00 - [32] hey if you want to make daily posts about your battles id be happy to read them
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Omeega You don't want me to make a daily thread about who creamster or fedor kills daily and how the fight went with the advice of the killed guy. Sure we do, what do we care? We just won't read it. There's some advice in there, Omeega. Don't like it, bored of the spam? Don't read it then.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Omeega You don't want me to make a daily thread about who creamster or fedor kills daily and how the fight went with the advice of the killed guy. Sure we do, what do we care? We just won't read it. There's some advice in there, Omeega. Don't like it, bored of the spam? Don't read it then. You took it as an attack and you shouldn't have. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:33:00 - [35] BoB may talk ****e on the forums, but I love the new sigs. Very funny.
Kai'Lee Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:34:00 - [36] the boob [T]actial [I]nvasion [T]eam is in full flow
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Omeega You don't want me to make a daily thread about who creamster or fedor kills daily and how the fight went with the advice of the killed guy. Sure we do, what do we care? We just won't read it. There's some advice in there, Omeega. Don't like it, bored of the spam? Don't read it then. You took it as an attack and you shouldn't have. I didn't take it as an attack, chap, just making the usual generic response to people that complain about others using the forums ;) If you weren't complaining then, erm, oh?
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:35:00 - [38] I think that would depends on what the pilot did dont u think? Anyway this thread isnt about celes but thankyou robert for answering my question about bob & exploits/questionable tactics. Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Der Pfaffe KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 10/10/2006 19:05:52 Quote: The BoB war (by John Mccreedy) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then came Sunday. We where presented with an oppurtunity again to deal another damaging morale blow to BoB but could we get the personnel? This is why we got mad. Hermot and I spent the whole day trying to gather forces to TCAG in order to hold this system and make another push. Because we only managed to get at our peak 44 BS out of 100 in gang out of 470 people in the Alliance chat, we lost the iniative..... lots of stuff snipped... Personally I believe the above paragraph is more interesting than all the rest. This is beginning to sound like the old Xetic Federation which is the reason AF formed is it not...? "470 people on alliance chat only 100 in gang..." sounds like a familier lament. Is AF getting top heavy with industrialists... Are the *****s between the PvPer's and Carebears beginning to show? .... (music) dan da dan daaaaan... Is this the beginning of the end...? Who knows... who cares... Should I stop drinking during the week...?
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Butter Dog I find most of John's post perfectly reasoned. Obviously, its biased. It would be, that is expected. I find it more distrubing that you take an internal ASCN forum post, make it public, then respond to it publically. This would be more appropriately handled on your own forum, but then, you guys have proved to be utterly devoid of morality and honour in this fight so far. Why start now? My heart bleeds for you, really it does... >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:36:00 - [41] You swallow propaganda like a birth control pill Selling your soul to the eye on the back of the dollar bill But that will never be me, cause I am leaving the past Like an abused wife with the kids, leaving your ass Like a drug addict clean and sober, leaving the stash Unbreakable Technique leaving the plane crash I'm out with the black box and I refuse to return I spit reality, instead of what you usually learn And I refuse to be concerned with condecending advice Cause I am the only motherf**ker that could change my life Immortal Technique, Revolutionnary Volume 2. A def. must have for ASCN members - they'll need it. (i thought of it and imho i know youguys won't stop so at least i give them a morale trick) Can I? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:37:00 - [42] Here's the summary for the guy who wanted it. Originally by: BoB Originally by: ASCN Poorly made propaganda Slightly better counter-propaganda Par for the course really.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Butter Dog I find most of John's post perfectly reasoned. Obviously, its biased. It would be, that is expected. I find it more distrubing that you take an internal ASCN forum post, make it public, then respond to it publically. This would be more appropriately handled on your own forum, but then, you guys have proved to be utterly devoid of morality and honour in this fight so far. Why start now? Haha. Sorry Butter Dog, but you're seriously losing it now m8. I believe most people see me as a somewhat level headed forum *****, especially in comparison to some of my alliance friends, but I'm sure most of that reputation would be gone with the wind as soon as I described Mccreedy's post as "perfectly reasoned". I mean c'mon, his logic is flawed, his argument is incorrectly constructed and he makes leaps in his argumentation no sane player can follow. Perfectly reasoned my ass. As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. Information is power, and any source directly related to gameplay may in my eyes be considered a source of gathering it as long as you keep within legal and TOS/EULA limits. Old blog
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:41:00 - [44] Originally by: HostageTaker Originally by: Butter Dog I find most of John's post perfectly reasoned. Obviously, its biased. It would be, that is expected. I find it more distrubing that you take an internal ASCN forum post, make it public, then respond to it publically. This would be more appropriately handled on your own forum, but then, you guys have proved to be utterly devoid of morality and honour in this fight so far. Why start now? My heart bleeds for you, really it does... You're confusing me for someone who cares. I just find all this interesting, as I'm not directly involved I couldn't care less who actually wins. I tend to end up 'debating' with BoB members more, as you guys flame a lot on the forums in a fairly agressive manner. I just like *****ing the bubble of your forum warrior egos, by responding to them with more reasoned posts than they are used to handling, thats all. Its a nice way to pass a few minutes at work.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:41:00 - [45] rod. your sig owns man. i def need one with kournikova and eve-forums... hmm tough... Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
zeKzn Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:41:00 - [46] Edited by: zeKzn on 10/10/2006 19:40:55 Originally by: Rod Blaine Haha. Sorry Butter Dog, but you're seriously losing it now m8. I believe most people see me as a somewhat level headed forum *****, especially in comparison to some of my alliance friends, but I'm sure most of that reputation would be gone with the wind as soon as I described Mccreedy's post as "perfectly reasoned". I mean c'mon, his logic is flawed, his argument is incorrectly constructed and he makes leaps in his argumentation no sane player can follow. Perfectly reasoned my ass. As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. Information is power, and any source directly related to gameplay may in my eyes be considered a source of gathering it as long as you keep within legal and TOS/EULA limits. Not as a flame or anything, but what exactly is the correct way of constructing an argument? The other two points are obvious but I didn't see anything that leapt out at me like "woops that should go there instead" edit: i cant spell ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:43:00 - [47] Originally by: Rod Blaine As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. I believe that EVE is a game. I would never use out of game resources (voice recordings, private forums etc) to prove an in-game point. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Perhaps that is where we differ, but I am confident that I sit on the more honourable side of the fence on this issue.
Lexor SLice Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:44:00 - [48] butter dog for president. almost as delusional as the one i already have ____________________________________________
zeKzn Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Butter Dog but I am confident that I sit on the more honourable side of the fence on this issue. as someone in another thread once said, morals are just selfish desires with nicer paint. ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rod Blaine As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. I believe that EVE is a game. I would never use out of game resources (voice recordings, private forums etc) to prove an in-game point. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Perhaps that is where we differ, but I am confident that I sit on the more honourable side of the fence on this issue. You are wrong, and aggresive, and inflamatory. I see you in just about every ASCN/BoB thread, if they honestly bother you that much it'd probably be a good idea just not to click the topic.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Crucifier We care, really, we do! I thought this day would never come - QFT on crucifier :D Blacklight look what your forum abuse has done (on a serious note, I have refrained from joining the smack war till now but arent you exagerating with the sheer number of treats? ) - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
kahle Paralex Research	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:45:00 - [52] Originally by: Lexor SLice butter dog for president. almost as delusional as the one i already have and so bobs reasoned discussion continues...
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:46:00 - [53] Originally by: John McCreedy oooh BoB's smacking me. I feel so special Bob isn't smacking you John, they're laughing at you like the members of your own corp do. Blacklight is just giveing the wider Eve community the chance to see what the joke is. Btw have you poded anyone lately for talking to me?
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:46:00 - [54] Originally by: Crimsonjade im impressed Blacklight... you havnt passed out and gotten killed at a moon yet There is still plenty of time tbh!
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Admiral Feelgood Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rod Blaine As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. I believe that EVE is a game. I would never use out of game resources (voice recordings, private forums etc) to prove an in-game point. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Perhaps that is where we differ, but I am confident that I sit on the more honourable side of the fence on this issue. You are wrong, and aggresive, and inflamatory. I see you in just about every ASCN/BoB thread, if they honestly bother you that much it'd probably be a good idea just not to click the topic. Its a public forum, so I'll do whatever I wish, thank you
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:48:00 - [56] Originally by: zeKzn Not as a flame or anything, but what exactly is the correct way of constructing an argument? The other two points are obvious but I didn't see anything that leapt out at me like "woops that should go there instead" edit: i cant spell Normally, you'd expect someone that leaps to a conclusion about the way in which something works (conclusion is [bob are causing it by way of exploit] for the effect that is [nodecrash]), to support his conclusion. Mccreedy not only offers his conclusion very early on in his argumentation, which isn't very [productive unless well founded and explained, he also offers not a single shred of explanation as to why he drew that conclusion in the first place. That means that be is basing his argumentation on an incompletely documented assumption. That's an error in construction. Old blog
Verone	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:48:00 - [57] Originally by: Shin Ra summary plz Originally by: Blacklight OMG We R Teh Killz0r HobbitZ!11one Tehy Serverz R Sux!11one!1 BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:53:00 - [58] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rod Blaine As to our morality, we simply have different views then. I believe that Eve is about power. I believe that EVE is a game. I would never use out of game resources (voice recordings, private forums etc) to prove an in-game point. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Perhaps that is where we differ, but I am confident that I sit on the more honourable side of the fence on this issue. That's funny, you do after all use out of game resources to play the game to it's full effect right ? Or don't you use TS in pvp, databases in pve or industry and these forums in politics ? Like I said, we wimply differ in opinion. I believe power is one fo the main goals in this game. I also believe that what you call out of game resources are no longer so much out of game. If I use it to win in pvp, it must be part of the game no ? If it is, it's also part of the whole of it. Ergo: spying being part of the game means spying on someones forums or even TS is too, within the restrictions I mentioned. I'm not here to hurt people in RL, and I don't really believe I'm doing so when quoting a post from a private forum as part of what I see as Eve gameplay. the word "gameplay" should be a dead giveaway tbh. Old blog
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:56:00 - [59] Originally by: Randay Originally by: Shin Ra summary plz Originally by: Blacklight I am the Pope. Nice one, I haven't read any of the posts, but this thread has satisfied me now.
kahle Paralex Research	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:56:00 - [60] Edited by: kahle on 10/10/2006 19:56:25 this is turning into the Rod n Dog show edit: however that isnt so bad, at least there is substance in the posts

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