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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:31:00 -
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Well i was wondering ... Thy dont CCP actualy dedicate 1 month of there time or what ever to make a simple page to make it passible to verifay GTC's before selling them to people or before buying them. Will make the proccess of tradeing them way much easyer and not so many accounts would get banded.
I mean .. why is it so hard ... ?
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Neveren
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:34:00 -
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Your supposed to use the GTC when you recieve it.. and if you buy them from the listed Secure Sellers on the CCP website, there is no problem.
what is your problem?
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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:36:00 -
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yea thats if you do so .. how about if you got only 5 minuts to your account and you just find someone to buy from .. or something like that .. o here is another situation
how about you want to trade them like ... tradeing Mods implants and all this . And your buying from people a bit cheaper couse they in a rush and they just want fast money and you want to actualy sell it a bit higher couse you have time .. and you cant use the card right a way .. how will you know the card is working ?? I mean you cant just use it couse you will just kill the card -- well not kill it but use it :-)
you see my point ? MoToato Eliositsi |
allanvv
Solar Wind Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: allanvv on 10/10/2006 21:38:17 How about this situation:
You are buying GTC's cheap and reselling them. You want to check if they're working or not but don't actually want to use them, as you are reselling them. If they don't work and you resell it, you get banned.
Is this the real reason why you're asking for this?
(whoops, this is what you just posted)
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Neveren
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:39:00 -
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your not allowed to resell GTC's... so thats out..
im still not following the train of thought here
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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: MINImightyME on 10/10/2006 21:46:10 LOl i am not allowed to resell .. said who ?
Check this link if your sure reselling is not alowed . Link ... MoToato Eliositsi |
MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:42:00 -
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my realy reason is not the Subject mate .
Allthough yes it is i just lost my account and i guess it was couse i bought a GTC from someone and the card wasnt good i gave the guy the card he told me the card is good and all . then i went to sleep i didnt got any mail saying something like .. hey .. mate your card didnt work . i want money back or anything like that i just got my account band ..
And i have dealt with GTCs alots this last week i have over 50 + positive feedbacks at my post from people who bought from me .
but i only guessing couse i realy dont know what happand .. a guys got a bad card .. didnt told me about me just pattitoned me .. CCP didnt checked anything and just band my account .. How nice ..
well if verifing the cards was possible .. this wouldnt happand .. Couse i wouldnt risk my 2 years old char for no prices in this game .. MoToato Eliositsi |
Orri Sarikusa
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Orri Sarikusa on 10/10/2006 22:03:37 You don't have a credit card, buy a GTC (original intended use).
You have money an need some isk, buy a GTC sell for isk (not happy with this, CCP didn't intend it but they let it ride as there is no alternative).
You have no money buy GTC for isk (the positive side of the one above).
There are the only 3 scenarios I can see, why resell? Unless of course some buys a GTC for isk then sells for real cash on the cheap so you buy it. Thats the dark side of GTCs I'm glad that people who do this get caught out and banned. Why should CCP spend developer time to assist isk launderers?
Of course there is a possibility that someone accidentally sells them too low and you resell. I also saw a flying pig this morning. *-*-*-* How to avoid a ban.
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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:10:00 -
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what you just said is bulls.....
why you do you buy a a mod for 150 million and selling 200milion ???..
To make profit to get rich .. you dont nesserly selling for relay money or what ever
You or whoever do it with mods/implent/BPC/ETC i do it with GTC's since its allowed and there is no restriction for this what you said above is complitly bulls...
And you glad people do this been cought and ban .. realy nice to hear.. you dont like the idea of GTCs its your own bussnises i dont like the idea people tradeing Implents .. or what ever ...
hope you see my point
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Ardent Rellik
Gallente MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:18:00 -
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Dude, when you get involved in RESELLING the GTC you open yourself to problems. The idea is to use the code immediately upon receipt from the seller, thus verifying and using the code for your personal use.
If you are complaining about someone selling you a bogus GTC, and then you in turn sell it to someone else, and get banned - that is your own fault.
Reselling the GTC while not explicitly prohibited goes against the spirit and design of why they were allowed in the first place. By going against the grain, so to speak, you are not breaking the rules, but you are not following them either, thus, again, opening yourself to unpleasant repercussions.
To resell GTC is a bad form. IMO, but then it is just my opinion. To sell them, well it is allowed, and if you do within the rules you are protected.
But, from what I understand you wanted to make a quick buck, got burned, and now whining on forums and demand that CCP ought to hold your hand.
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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:23:00 -
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well keep flameing this is the way .. What a comminity lol.. lets Stop this convo i am wining your right .. keep selling mods and what ever way and enjoy.
Will now stop answering here . MoToato Eliositsi |
Neveren
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:31:00 -
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So in summary,
-"Hi Gtcs need to be checkable"
-"Why"
-"I got banned cause i tried to resell a bad GTC"
nothing more needs be said.. Good day to you sir.
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Zing Ashuwanik
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:42:00 -
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If you make a page to verify GTCs, then you'll have a thousand people writing scripts to pound random numbers into the checker, brute forcing to find valid numbers.
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elbenito
Battlestars Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:44:00 -
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To be honest, if I was reselling GTCs, I would explain to the person I was selling to that I was reselling it, and that if it failed to work, I'd promptly refund their isk and petition the person who sold the code to me, and be sure to stay online when they attempt to activate it. Of course that opens you up to people who'd claim it didn't work and demand a refund or they'd petition you. You'd have no idea whether they're telling the truth or not, so you could end up getting screwed over that way.
Best policy is just to not resell them, no matter how tempting the profit seems. The ban-stick is no fun.
Wow, I just had an argument with myself. I lose.
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MINImightyME
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: MINImightyME on 10/10/2006 22:55:23
Originally by: Zing Ashuwanik If you make a page to verify GTCs, then you'll have a thousand people writing scripts to pound random numbers into the checker, brute forcing to find valid numbers.
you are the only smard person here, the reason you just said is actualy the only thing i can thinks Of .. Nice though .. DIDnt accured to me ^^
Originally by: Neveren So in summary,
-"Hi Gtcs need to be checkable"
-"Why"
-"I got banned cause i tried to resell a bad GTC"
nothing more needs be said.. Good day to you sir.
lol your a noob and if i could i would bit you up for your stupid command ..
Originally by: elbenito To be honest, if I was reselling GTCs, I would explain to the person I was selling to that I was reselling it, and that if it failed to work, I'd promptly refund their isk and petition the person who sold the code to me, and be sure to stay online when they attempt to activate it. Of course that opens you up to people who'd claim it didn't work and demand a refund or they'd petition you. You'd have no idea whether they're telling the truth or not, so you could end up getting screwed over that way.
Best policy is just to not resell them, no matter how tempting the profit seems. The ban-stick is no fun.
Wow, I just had an argument with myself. I lose.
I was Doing so .. i was asking the people i am selling to to confirme the Card is actualy working i guess someone wanted to resell or just keep 1 card for laters or something and just told me he confirmed the card but when he tryed it and saw its not working . instead of asking me refound he just pattitoned . and CCP dont check they Ban first ask question laters.
i guess this is the case .. I was selling like 100 cards this last week made some money out of this WHY in god's name would i sell a not working card to someone ? i know he can just pot a pattation and i get band . i got scamed 2 times and got my money back 5 minuts laters after patition while the person wasnt responding . i mean i do know that CCP ban fast why would i lose my account and the money i had on it for 1 GTC or even more then that ?
MoToato Eliositsi |
w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:42:00 -
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I would say Not Possible.
Otherwise people would create fake keys and test them against the site untill they found valid keys.
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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My ego?
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zing Ashuwanik If you make a page to verify GTCs, then you'll have a thousand people writing scripts to pound random numbers into the checker, brute forcing to find valid numbers.
Of you could just right a script to pound them into the redeem gtc page. Some how i don't think it woudl be effective whats a gtc? 25 characters long with the possibilities from 1-9 and a-z. I think you're probably better off trying random login names and passwords in terms of probability. Assuming most have less than 10 character username and less than 10 character password.
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Trahern Twrgadarn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:54:00 -
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From what I gather, you have sold a GTC, or are thinking about it and want to check if it's valid, right?.
I know CCP protect buyers as I was once sold duff cards and I got my iskies back.
If you have had a problem with someone buying off you, then contact a GM, qoute the code on the card you sold and who you sold it to and it should get sorted out.
If none of the above is relevant and you were wondering why there is no 'code validation' tool, there probably isn't one incase people tried to create fake keys through serial generators or something.
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