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Hakuren Shidou
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:43:42 -
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kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:45:21 -
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was also looking for miner-friendly CSM's but havent found any , most are pvp pve wormhole etc. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
818
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:45:56 -
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http://match.eve-csm.com/candidates.php
I want to be your representative for CSMX!
Please EVEmail me with any quesitons, comments or concerns you have about myself or EVE.
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jurgen b
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:50:18 -
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Why do you want a CSM that has 1 tought 1 mind, it all end up in endless discussing with no sollution. we need CSM's that can think in chains, because that is how EVE works 1 effects the other and CSM that can think out of the box and representing balance for everyone. everyone i read just talks about 1 part without overthinking the other parts. each lives in his own bubble
i want a CSM that get rid of bubbles JK |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15172
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:52:46 -
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Got nothing to do? Then exercise your Democratic right and go vote for the CSM.
My that's a lot of people to chose from, if only there was a way to know which ones to vote for. Well great news, we have done all the hard work for you!
Sion Kumitomo Endie Thoric Frosthammer Manfred Sideous Bobmon Bam Stroker Sort Dragon Gorga UAxDEATH Corebloodbrothers Corbexx Steve Ronuken Sugar Kyle Tora Bushido
Highsec sperg: But dem alls be nasty nullblob types.
Quite right peasant and its that way for a reason. This is the year that CCP "fixes" sov and all of the above are dedicated to ridding us of the current terrible system and replacing it with one that will;
Reduce goons to one region. Deal with the 20,000 supers (we arn't kidding, ******* things are everywhere) out there to end their reign of invulnerable **** machines. Make it worth living in nullsec without blanket nerfs to highsec Crush T3s beneath the collective heel of their boots End the reign of the sentry doctrine. The non voting masses: Why should I bother voting, its not like my vote will matter.
Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5176
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:55:04 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too.
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Sara Soda
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:00:55 -
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You tell us who represents the miners and we will all vote for them...miners have rights too!! |
jurgen b
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:03:14 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too.
To bad you aint running CSM from all post i have followed so far you seem to have a descent balanced logic about EVE.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1332
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:04:58 -
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*BLINK* *chokes on something that may or may not be there*
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild
93
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:13:46 -
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I am the CSM hopeful for miners, I missed the deadlines, because I was too busy mining. |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5176
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:13:57 -
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jurgen b wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too. To bad you aint running CSM from all post i have followed so far you seem to have a descent balanced logic about EVE. Heh, I can't even begin to imagine how hard the trolls would troll if I ran for CSM, though it's something I've considered. It's too much time to commit with other responsibilities right now however.
Omar Alharazaad wrote:*BLINK* *chokes on something that may or may not be there*
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen. Lol? Sabriz is under the impression that miner should in fact spend the vast majority of their time attempting to fight back (with guns, not with meta) against players who will definitely win against them. Sabriz is literally the worst person a miner could vote for, since he's so biased against their entire playstyle, he'd happily see it removed. I wrote a short review of his campaign, and it's certainly not an uncommon view that Sabriz would be bad for the CSM. Surprisingly, judging by what baltec has put above (I haven't checked yet) Sabriz didn't even make the CFC vote.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
11914
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:15:14 -
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Sabriz Adoudel is your man-playing-an-in-game-woman.
No CSM member will fight harder for good, honest miners, while punishing the true bad guys of New Eden.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1333
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:32:38 -
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I had a chance to chat with Sabriz a few weeks back. We don't see 100% eye to eye on the mining thing to be honest, but on most salient points we do agree.
Mining isn't a bad thing, and miners are not bad people. The problem really lies in the NPE when it comes down to it. It encourages newblets to do it solo, and to be honest that's a terrible way to mine. By yourself you have to carry the entire burden of a situational awareness and self preservation. It's a royal pain. Back when I still mined it was possibly the single most stress inducing activity I engaged in. Making sure you're aligned, pretargetting the next roids so you could harvest them while they were within range, watching local for spikes and known gankers and mashing D-Scan to detect possible incoming gankers is simply exhausting by yourself. It's so much easier when you've got some buddies to share the burden of keeping an eye out, even moreso if you've got a few bros in ewar ships keeping lookout while you and your crew get your nom on. Also, doing it solo means the only thing you get to talk to are the rocks, and you REALLY don't want to know what they have to say back.
Fighting back against those who threaten your way of life isn't a bad thing. Method is the issue. Target denial is the soundest approach, as most of those ships aren't really built for brawling. I'd still vote for Sabriz over most of the other candidates... I prefer a risky and exciting high sec over a foam padded one. Without a potential for real loss, can you really enjoy gain?
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2153
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:36:06 -
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What do you expect a mining representative to do?
Why don't you become one yourself? |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
741
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:51:44 -
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Miners don't need a representative. They need a head examination. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:53:58 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
You hardly speak for all miners, so don't post like that.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:55:47 -
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Confirming Sabriz Adoudel should be #1 on your list.
And this is coming from a miner. |
Richard Tsasa
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:27:39 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I had a chance to chat with Sabriz a few weeks back. We don't see 100% eye to eye on the mining thing to be honest, but on most salient points we do agree.
Mining isn't a bad thing, and miners are not bad people. The problem really lies in the NPE when it comes down to it. It encourages newblets to do it solo, and to be honest that's a terrible way to mine. By yourself you have to carry the entire burden of a situational awareness and self preservation. It's a royal pain. Back when I still mined it was possibly the single most stress inducing activity I engaged in. Making sure you're aligned, pretargetting the next roids so you could harvest them while they were within range, watching local for spikes and known gankers and mashing D-Scan to detect possible incoming gankers is simply exhausting by yourself. It's so much easier when you've got some buddies to share the burden of keeping an eye out, even moreso if you've got a few bros in ewar ships keeping lookout while you and your crew get your nom on. Also, doing it solo means the only thing you get to talk to are the rocks, and you REALLY don't want to know what they have to say back.
Fighting back against those who threaten your way of life isn't a bad thing. Method is the issue. Target denial is the soundest approach, as most of those ships aren't really built for brawling. I'd still vote for Sabriz over most of the other candidates... I prefer a risky and exciting high sec over a foam padded one. Without a potential for real loss, can you really enjoy gain?
Solo Mining is and should remain as valid a gameplay choice as Group/Fleet Mining imo and I am looking for Candidates that see it the same way. According you Sabriz does not.
Thanks for the info on Sabriz. After reading you comments I am convinced Sabriz is not one of my choices for CSM.
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
219
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:33:16 -
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It depends what you desire in terms of support for miners. If you want a candidate to support 'afk' mining with ISBoxer type software use I don't think there will be one. No offence intended there but just a statement of fact.
I recommend you do the questionnaire that is linked on the latest CSM dev blog. It takes a looong time to complete as there are so many questions but if you fill it in honestly it links the best candidates for you.
For miners I think the best CSM candidates are Steve Ronuken & Migui X'hyrrn. Actually they are both in favour of iterating the mining profession which does worry me a little given how so many other professions and elements of the game recently iterated have come out of the process in a bad state. Not sure about Miqui ideas but Steve wants to keep the existing 'point & click' nature of mining currently used while adding other processes to 'reserve' your own stocks of ore and enable better qualities of ore. I actually like his ideas so I think Steve will get our votes.
Interestingly Sabriz Adoudel also supports Steve s mining proposal but she also wants to 'remove' high sec so I would not suggest voting for her.
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" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1334
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:33:30 -
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Solo mining can absolutely be accomplished. My point was that in doing so you are taking on yourself a much heavier burden than you would be when shared with others.
I used to mine solo quite frequently. I quit because it was too stressful. Constantly jamming D-Scan to make sure cats weren't incoming, keeping my roids lined up so I could swap targets as they went out of range... keeping a watchful eye on local for spikes and checking the profiles of new folks showing up in system to make sure they weren't active threats... it's exhausting and leads to chain smoking if that's a vice of yours.
I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
11919
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:35:06 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote: I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
Nevermind that, if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game.
Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2204
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:35:35 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
Of course, miners should always stand up for themselves, too. While CSM "representation" is a good thing, folks still need to think and act for themselves (more often than not).
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:37:31 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote: I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
Nevermind that, if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game. Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not. A solo miner who's doing it right IS playing with others... he's just that quiet kid in the back of the room everyone worries about. They know what he doesn't know, and that's that he's eventually gonna flip out and kill them all.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2898
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:38:02 -
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It is a pity that Keath Eaton does not wish to stand for the CSM.
He seems to think that all of the game is important, not just his favourite part.
This is not a signature.
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Dave stark
7391
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:39:35 -
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baltec1 wrote:The non voting masses: Why should I bother voting, its not like my vote will matter.
the actual answer is "freebies". |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:41:09 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote: Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
That one is the most incompent CSM candidate.
He covers almost nothing of New Eden. Just ganking. He can not understand anything else.
No miners, no misioniers, no kind of PvE wether in hi-,lo or nullecs. He thinks the Alliance Tournament is not part of EvE and is in every direction short sighted at best. No respect or understanding for people with different playstyles than his own. miners are just good for his kill board. he denies the importance of the AT for a certain reason... btw denial of the AT: What about the "worlds collide"? Tranquility vs Serenity? Of course has nothing to do with eve... at least not with hisec...
So who to vote? Mike Azariah Steve Ronuken
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
219
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:42:36 -
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People die for the right to vote even in 2015. Make sure you use your right to vote.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
842
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:44:00 -
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As far as i know and that would be not much Mike A dude in only one who is trying to keep hi sec playground in one piece for newcomers after we all graduate to elite f1 pushers and highest elite pvp available ie shooting new accounts and ganking miners.
So id say check him out maybe hi fits a bil. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:45:15 -
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La Rynx wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote: Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
That one is the most incompent CSM candidate. He covers almost nothing of New Eden. Just ganking. He can not understand anything else. No miners, no misioniers, no kind of PvE wether in hi-,lo or nullecs. He thinks the Alliance Tournament is not part of EvE and is in every direction short sighted at best. No respect or understanding for people with different playstyles than his own. miners are just good for his kill board. he denies the importance of the AT for a certain reason... btw denial of the AT: What about the "worlds collide"? Tranquility vs Serenity? Of course has nothing to do with eve... at least not with hisec... So who to vote? Mike Azariah Steve Ronuken
You just look like you need a hug. Not gonna argue with you. Too drunk to do so coherently anyways. So here. have a hug *hug*
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15178
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:46:43 -
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La Rynx wrote: So who to vote?
Why, you vote for the list naturally!
Miners and industrialists of highsec rejoice! Vote for the people on the list and we will get more destruction in nullsec as more people are able to take systems for themselves. More death means a need for more ships, more ships means more minerals needed, more minerals needed means higher prices for the minerals YOU mine.
Vote smart, vote often, follow the list for a better tomorrow.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
172
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:47:44 -
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Taking the devils advocate for a minute.
Sabriz Adoudel has a t least two good ideas:
Increase the wardec charges if a stronger corp/alliance wardecs a weaker/smaller corp/alliance.
Introduce small benefits to being a long term member of a player-run corporation such as small percentage increases in mining yield.
So not all bad. |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
666
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:52:43 -
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Hmm. I just realized that although it makes up only a tiny percent of my play time, the PvE activity I do the most is mining (gas to be precise) so by that definition I am a miner.
I'll be voting for Sabriz who is for many things I like, including making mining a more engaging and rewarding experience for active and aware miners. Steve, who is for similar reforms, will probably also find a place on my ballot.
Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
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Belinda HwaFang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
41
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:03:32 -
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Steve Ronuken is your best bet if you are at all doing industry outside of just mining ore and selling it.
But I beg you to expand your mind and look for candidates who don't advocate just one playstyle (I'm not saying that is Steve, by the way) -- Fang |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2030
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:15:41 -
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Tora Bushido is extremely miner friendly. While he might be the leader of one of the largest highsec PVP entities in the game, his policies are all laced with carebear agendas. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5177
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:50:54 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I'd still vote for Sabriz over most of the other candidates... I prefer a risky and exciting high sec over a foam padded one. Without a potential for real loss, can you really enjoy gain? So if your for risk, why would you want to foam pad ganking even further? If your for "real loss", then why don't you care that most ganks are done with disposable ships that literally cost less than pocket change.
I have no problem if people want to add risk to highsec in balance. I have no problem if people want to remove reward from highsec in balance. What I have an issue with are people like Sabriz who want to add benefits to them and theirs and support changes game mechanics to force other players to need to engage in battles which they will definitely lose, and in gameplay they don't enjoy, just to provide themselves with more targets. I have a problem with people who hide behind the pretense of wanting balance while pushing for the scales to tilt in their favour.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5177
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:53:06 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
Nevermind that, if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game. Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not. People pay CCP $15 a month to play however they want. Whether or not you think their gameplay style is exciting enough is irrelevant.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5177
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:01:35 -
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Bethan Le Troix wrote:Taking the devils advocate for a minute.
Sabriz Adoudel has a t least two good ideas:
Increase the wardec charges if a stronger corp/alliance wardecs a weaker/smaller corp/alliance. Arguable. The problem is that most of the most competent highsec PvP group that wardec are tiny, so the amounts they pay would likely not change much. Also, with his idea there's the issue that you can wardec anyone for cheap using a 1 man corp then invite your real corp as allies.
The way it currently works is you pay more to have more war targets. The whole system needs an overhaul to be honest though.
Bethan Le Troix wrote:Introduce small benefits to being a long term member of a player-run corporation such as small percentage increases in mining yield. So bring WoW guild perks to EVE. What woulds stop people simply running their own corps for one or two characters just to get the bonuses and still being about as free from conflict as they currently are? And then you'd also have the issue that a group wardecs them who they stand absolutely zero chance of defending against, now they have the options: - Drop corp and lose all of your bonuses - Don't play until the wardec is over. - Pay a substantial amount of isk for either a surrender or hire mercs which may or may not be effective.
At the end of the day, that idea is to make it easier for wardec groups to force corps into positions they can't function in so that they are forced to lose out whatever they do.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
283
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:05:02 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
James 315
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Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1425
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:15:54 -
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Well I voted for 1 goon approved guy mostly because he didn't say he was a goon approved candidate.
No one's perfect i guess :O
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:51:10 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game.
So what? Not yours to decide. CCP wants them and tries to entice those players. EvE gets more Lore stuff, which is more likely to be enjoyed by more PvE players.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not.
I know very well what i need. What i do not need are smartas?s, who try to tell me what i have to do. That wont work.
Even i could be a better CSM than Sabriz. Even if ganking is not my kind of game, i can take the view and the needs of gankers and weigh them carefully with the needs of ALL other players. AND i a not trying to tell others what they should do.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Harry Saq
Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
61
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:54:34 -
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If you want to look up the actual candidates responses rather than fill out the 60 questions yourself, go here: http://match.eve-csm.com/compare.php
You can also check box individual candidates in case the page is breaking or being dumb ;)
Harry Saq for CSM X
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4976
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:56:35 -
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While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. Of course, the CSM isn't a group of game designers. We can just make suggestions. But it should give you some kind of idea where I stand on it. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/2013/05/31/mining-rights/ is an old copy of the basic idea. There have been some tweaks to it, but the core is similar.
Someone else I'd suggest thinking about is Mike Azariah. Close to the classic 'carebear' lifestyle.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Diemos Hiaraki
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:06:26 -
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baltec1 wrote:La Rynx wrote: So who to vote?
Why, you vote for the list naturally! Miners and industrialists of highsec rejoice! Vote for the people on the list and we will get more destruction in nullsec as more people are able to take systems for themselves. More death means a need for more ships, more ships means more minerals needed, more minerals needed means higher prices for the minerals YOU mine. Vote smart, vote often, follow the list for a better tomorrow.
When Sion was running for CSM9 he warned of what null stagnation leads to in his 'Cap stable podcast' interview; and I think baltec1 is making a really important point that if you are a miner you really should be voting for those null folks who want to wage war. Bored sov null players often turn to ganking to relieve the monotony of what sov has become.
- My list for what it's worth - lots of null for the above reasons but I'd be fairly happy with baltec1's CSM too
Sion Kumitomo Corebloodbrothers Manfred Sideous Steve Ronuken Endie Gorga Thoric Frosthammer Corbexx Bam Stroker Sugar Kyle Sort Dragon Jayne Fillon UAxDEATH Gorski Car
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:07:23 -
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i really wonder if something could be achieved, that supports the fun off all the different play styles. all sectors have theirs pros and cons. and sometimes i do not want to spend hours mining or hours hunting in a fleet. Still i want to play the same game and not an alternative.
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1813
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:14:05 -
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so far every "mining" CSM member ive seen ever cant come up with mining concepts that arent a reintroduction of loot spew, some horrid minigame, or an abomination of both thrown together to ensure the only way to mine is to sit there for hours on end doing the exact same thing without pause
its terrible, as it is mining is fine and allows me to play on one monitor and chat with friends without being forced to stop my business-related work. and the only thing wrong with mining ships is that most miners still dont know the difference between tanking and yield mods. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
772
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:15:53 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
I'm not sure you want a candidate who spends the entire term afk, and wont talk to others
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Jallukola
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:19:17 -
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It is irrelevant who to vote, it only matters how much they pay for the vote.
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Harry Saq
Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
61
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:22:42 -
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Also, when you vote, vote with your heart....or your Harry Saq ;)
...ok, that was bad
Harry Saq for CSM X
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9903
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:34:35 -
[49] - Quote
[quote=Steve Ronuken Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. [/quote]
Now that is thinking outside the box. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1415
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:39:03 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining.
Like...gravimetric sites?
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Kraft Ogburn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:55:29 -
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Yeah voted for Endie and Bam as well. |
Kraft Ogburn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.02.25 18:59:11 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: Someone else I'd suggest thinking about is Mike Azariah. Close to the classic 'carebear' lifestyle.
Yup voted for him too.
I figure a cool panel of different mindsets is the best course. I voted for a guy from Brave, RvB, Goonwaffe, and a carebear. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4976
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Posted - 2015.02.25 19:05:16 -
[53] - Quote
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. Like...gravimetric sites?
With this, bear in mind that the CSM just get to suggest stuff. And that's in general terms. So treat this as an F&I post, or indicative of how I'd respond to something coming from CCP.
As they're just 'warp to roids and mine', not really.
Some kind of prospecting mechanic, where, given time, you can find better roids, if you have the skill. And those roids can be claimed for a corporation. (the prospecting creates the deposit. So someone can't just find all the best ones and lock someone out) so if someone claim jumps, retaliation is possible. Claims would be sellable too. Corp, rather than player level. (giving a corp a reason to exist to mine.)
Woo! CSM 9!
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6092
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Posted - 2015.02.25 19:13:08 -
[54] - Quote
You were talking about mining? Who supports this?
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16151
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Posted - 2015.02.25 22:12:36 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. Now that is thinking outside the box.
Steve is a smart guy. He'll be #2 on my list.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23173
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Posted - 2015.02.25 22:41:42 -
[56] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. Now that is thinking outside the box. Steve is a smart guy. He'll be #2 on my list. Didn't even read his manifesto, just voted with him as #2 on my list too.
Steve knows his stuff inside out.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4728
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Posted - 2015.02.25 22:54:18 -
[57] - Quote
Heh, I missed this thread until now.
Mining is currently ridiculously boring, so dull that most people do it as close to AFK as they are able (either via CCP approved methods like AFK-ish mining, or via bannable offences like botting). This needs to change.
Player actions offer some of the solution to keep mining interesting by making it dangerous, but it is my feeling that the system for mining is broken enough to need serious work.
I would endorse changes to mining mechanics that incentivise miners to work together and field fleets with combat escorts to protect them from both player and NPC dangers. Currently this is not even remotely sensible to do.
Until then, I will shoot the AFK miners (both doing it myself and facilitating other gankers) and help thin out your competition.
Edit: For what it's worth I do also endorse Steve R for CSM as his in-game actions are those of a producer that will actively defend himself in-game when his interests are threatened. More miners and producers should follow his lead.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Omgitsbears
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.25 22:58:51 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
Do we even need a CSM who represents miners? I have a 1+ year old mining alt and I use that character the most, and I really don't feel like this is an area of Eve-O that needs to be visited. Maybe a Tier III mining vessel would be real cool, but otherwise I can't think of anything CCP needs to change about this profession. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4730
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Posted - 2015.02.25 23:15:00 -
[59] - Quote
Oh and one more thing that might surprise people. I would support improvements to the Prospect, to make it more effective than it currently is as a mining vessel.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23420
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Posted - 2015.02.25 23:34:31 -
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Mining is at the center of Sab's conflict and opportunity platform. At its onset it might seem hostile and adversarial, but the truth is that a lot of the other candidates have things other than mining to worry about in this big giant game that is EVE.
Sab might drive changes into cooperative play for mining, or how mining opportunities align with player corporations, or she just might completely wreck mining ISK/hr or move resources out of hisec altogether.
The point is, we have a person here who is thinking about this often-lampooned and afterthought-ish career of mining in EVE as a pillar of her platform. She could be a channel for more dialog about this profession in the next year of CSM. She would certainly draw our collective attentions to mining, above and over stuff like SOV and POSes that a pure miner might not care about.
Mike may be another candidate with his eye on this topic. I will be putting a vote in for Mike, but I personally can't agree with most of what he supports.
Edit: Grammar is hard. It might seem with my poor word choices that I'm speaking for these candidates.. I am not. It is simply my observations of what they appear to support. Happy voting.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6313
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Posted - 2015.02.25 23:53:56 -
[61] - Quote
What's this? None of the candidates have been playing more than 5 years?
This CSM is not going to properly represent the senior vote around here.
Edit - my bad - there are. Unclicked the wrong box.
Senior moment...
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Serene Repose
2311
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Posted - 2015.02.25 23:56:36 -
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The real question is: Which CSM candidate ISN'T lying his/her @$$ off 'cause (of course) this is politics, and simply everybody knows how that works? In an environment where it's in vogue to hate miners, I'd suggest miners don't have a snowball's chance in Hell. Your management team doesn't care about that either. Why should the CSM?
(Let management bring back sanity from the WoW refugees, not some player-populated public relations gimmick.)
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Richard Tsasa
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Posted - 2015.02.26 01:36:33 -
[63] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Heh, I missed this thread until now.
Mining is currently ridiculously boring, so dull that most people do it as close to AFK as they are able (either via CCP approved methods like AFK-ish mining, or via bannable offences like botting). This needs to change.
Player actions offer some of the solution to keep mining interesting by making it dangerous, but it is my feeling that the system for mining is broken enough to need serious work.
I would endorse changes to mining mechanics that incentivise miners to work together and field fleets with combat escorts to protect them from both player and NPC dangers. Currently this is not even remotely sensible to do.
Until then, I will shoot the AFK miners (both doing it myself and facilitating other gankers) and help thin out your competition.
Edit: For what it's worth I do also endorse Steve R for CSM as his in-game actions are those of a producer that will actively defend himself in-game when his interests are threatened. More miners and producers should follow his lead.
I now understand much better your position on Mining in EVE now Sabriz Adoudel, and how you think it should be done. Thank you very much for your assistance.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
979
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Posted - 2015.02.26 02:51:25 -
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As to Sabriz and boring:
I like mining, it is when I kick back, relax with the corp / fleet / alliance. When I check my EVE mails, read the forums a bit, get some work done at home.
I find mining very social. If a stupid mini-game were introduced, I would stop mining and probably just spin my ship.
Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHO stands for miners ? Me. Best example here. I have mined in all types of space, high sec, low sec, NPC null sec, worm holes and SOV null sec.
I want miners to have more ability to stand and fight. I do stand for a lot of other things too.
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Drez Arthie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2015.02.26 04:11:34 -
[65] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Miners don't need a representative. They need a head examination.
Are you actually LGBT or just making fun of us? Name set to Minmitar Citizen *** says the latter so go f*** yourself |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
202
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Posted - 2015.02.26 05:15:56 -
[66] - Quote
Miners should vote for Sugar Kyle because she represents basically everyone. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
952
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Posted - 2015.02.26 06:10:23 -
[67] - Quote
I'm going to run for CSM next year. Purely on a solo mining platform. All of the solo miners will vote for me. But I'll secretly be backed by CODE.
It's really the only way to out-do mittens in terms of pure meta gaming. So this is what I'm going to do.
Bonus points to me for actually spelling out my evil miner awoxing plan more than a year in advance. You've been warned, miners. Do not vote for me next year, no matter what sweet delicious ganker tears I promise. I'll be paying CODE billions of real life dollars to vote for me.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5187
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Posted - 2015.02.26 07:53:47 -
[68] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Mining is currently ridiculously boring For you... I believe ganking is ridiculously boring, so let's change that in ways I think would make it more interesting regardless of what you think.
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I would endorse changes to mining mechanics that incentivise miners to work together and field fleets with combat escorts to protect them from both player and NPC dangers. Currently this is not even remotely sensible to do. Except you wouldn't do thin by improving mining, you'd do this by making it ludicrously difficult to make isk from without offering yourself up as a target to gankers. You want to fore players to have to defend themselves by engaging with you, knowing full well they will lose. You want to give yourself more exciting targets, that's all this is. You don't care what miners actually want, and you seem to think that conflict is everywhere yet the only conflict that should be increased is the type with guns.
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
57
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Posted - 2015.02.26 07:56:50 -
[69] - Quote
I think that Lucas Kell is the only person I'd vote for if I thought (as he does) that miners require representation.
Of course, I think the CSM is guff.
But that's just my opinion, man. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2015.02.26 08:00:25 -
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All I know for certain is I got 40 shuttles I won't ever use. |
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.26 08:52:43 -
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Why do people feel the need to suggest changes to mining when its fine? The whole ganker story in highsec is at its peak, why **** with that?
Mining doesnt need to be changed, the fact you can do it AFK is what the appeal is. Take that away with stupid minigames or repetitive NPCs and people will just go do something else.
Mining outside highsec needs to be buffed and miners need to stop being such pussies and accept they can be killed, but the mining itself is fine. Funny to hear nonminers talking about changes to it when no miner ive ever met has a single problem. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16152
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:22:49 -
[72] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:The real question is: Which CSM candidate ISN'T lying his/her @$$ off 'cause (of course) this is politics, and simply everybody knows how that works? In an environment where it's in vogue to hate miners, I'd suggest miners don't have a snowball's chance in Hell. Your management team doesn't care about that either. Why should the CSM?
(Let management bring back sanity from the WoW refugees, not some player-populated public relations gimmick.)
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I love posts like this. They reassure me that most people who don't really have any business voting won't.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
59
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:26:22 -
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Malcanis wrote: most people who don't really have any business voting won't.
How I wish this were true, but you can count on my non-vote and making sure no one receives it! |
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33259
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:37:15 -
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baltec1 wrote:Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game.
You can not vote and still be more of an influence than if you only vote and do nothing afterwards. Same deal IRL, voting guarantess you nothing. You have to pester your representatives constantly if you want them to actually represent you.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Valedictio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2015.02.26 10:27:48 -
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I believe voting is getting that bad CCP is now giving out free stuff to encourage voting, as everyone likes free stuff.
That said, The CSM NEEDS to have people who have a wealth of experience in this game, Personaly I have done Null/Empire PvP, Mining, and a lot of the indy side which is my preferance, playing since the beginning of 2008, however I would not consider myself as CSM material due to the ammount of time and effort required for it.
I have a lot of respect for the Serious Candidates the majority of which due to the nature of the game have naturally elevated to positions of power withing the larger blocks, They have the experience which is needed even if some of that is outdated.
Hence I would prefer experienced people helping to decide the future direction and improvements to the game, Null sec is stagnating due to the current mechanics and drastically needs an overhaul to improve it, not simply for the benefit of the blocks but more for the line members themselves.
Anyone who would consider their vote as irrelevant doesn't seem to comprehend what the CSM is for, it is OUR voice of concern to CCP, sometimes it is ignored, sometimes small nuggets of gold can be passed over to improve OUR experience of the game.
Ignore all the propoganda rubbish and make your own decision of what you want, it may make a differance, to abstain from voting does nothing to help your form of playstyle get improved.
and now for some more of the same from the Constructive Feedback Consortium.
Human Torch time and ..........'FLAME ON'
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Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
242
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Posted - 2015.02.26 11:01:20 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I would endorse changes to mining mechanics that incentivise miners to work together and field fleets with combat escorts to protect them from both player and NPC dangers. Currently this is not even remotely sensible to do.
Missing the balance. If a mining/industry corp would be forced to have armed forces to achieve one of the lowest income in game... what about the other playstyles? Like... mercs/ganker corps won't be able to undock until their mining corpmates delivered 2 million m-Ś Veldspar per week? Miners need combat pilots - combat pilots need miners?
Sure, I'd like to see those CODE. or Marmite mining fleets out there. As you said: Currently it's not even remotely sensible to have mining chars in your merc/ganker corporation and that need to change.
It's like station traders needing bodyguards to keep the captains quarter door closed.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16153
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:26:45 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:baltec1 wrote:Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game. You can not vote and still be more of an influence than if you only vote and do nothing afterwards. Same deal IRL, voting guarantess you nothing. You have to pester your representatives constantly if you want them to actually represent you.
You can resolve this apparent dilemma by voting for people who want the same things you do.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
63
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:46:23 -
[78] - Quote
Wait.. there's free stuff? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23457
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:55:55 -
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Shuttles, Ma. We get cool CSM shuttles..
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
63
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:57:55 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Shuttles, Ma. We get cool CSM shuttles..
I hear you get those even if you dont vote.
Anything else?
Considering activating my third eye if theres a good reason to randomly assign favour to three folk
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33275
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:17:49 -
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Malcanis wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:baltec1 wrote:Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game. You can not vote and still be more of an influence than if you only vote and do nothing afterwards. Same deal IRL, voting guarantess you nothing. You have to pester your representatives constantly if you want them to actually represent you. You can resolve this apparent dilemma by voting for people who want the same things you do.
Don't get me wrong, I did. It's just that if you really want to be a driving force, however minute it may be, only voting isn't enough.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
981
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:19:46 -
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Valedictio wrote:... Anyone who would consider their vote as irrelevant doesn't seem to comprehend what the CSM is for, it is OUR voice of concern to CCP, ... I disagree because not enough people vote. If an alliance can throw together a slate and get a bunch of those elected then people aren't voting enough for other candidates.
It isn't the whole of EVE that is represented. It is a few large alliances and coalitions that don't even make up 25% of the players.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
1984
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:27:57 -
[83] - Quote
Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? Xenuria
Would you like to know more?
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23464
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:28:08 -
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Jen, an Alliance being able to squeeze out more votes speaks to the spirit of "strength in numbers" that is characteristic of EVE.
If others wanted changes they are interested in seeing, shouldn't they try to do the strength in numbers thing, too?
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
984
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:27:21 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Jen, an Alliance being able to squeeze out more votes speaks to the spirit of "strength in numbers" that is characteristic of EVE. If others wanted changes they are interested in seeing, shouldn't they try to do the strength in numbers thing, too? Perhaps they have been blobbed, ganked, cowed and think they are the minority? By the way, lovely new profile icon.
CSM Ten movement for change.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16154
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:37:32 -
[86] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:Malcanis wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:baltec1 wrote:Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game. You can not vote and still be more of an influence than if you only vote and do nothing afterwards. Same deal IRL, voting guarantess you nothing. You have to pester your representatives constantly if you want them to actually represent you. You can resolve this apparent dilemma by voting for people who want the same things you do. Don't get me wrong, I did. It's just that if you really want to be a driving force, however minute it may be, only voting isn't enough.
Ah, Apologies, I mistook your meaning.
No, well naturally a few moments of clicking and dragging in the vote screen won't yield the same results as a full year of persistent and consistent advocacy. But in looked at from a cost:benefit perspective, it's extremely profitable.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15224
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:46:22 -
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Get voting people
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23469
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:51:50 -
[88] - Quote
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Jen, an Alliance being able to squeeze out more votes speaks to the spirit of "strength in numbers" that is characteristic of EVE. If others wanted changes they are interested in seeing, shouldn't they try to do the strength in numbers thing, too? Perhaps they have been blobbed, ganked, cowed and think they are the minority?
Hisec contains the overwhelming majority of players in EVE. Amongst these, hisec aggressors may be vocal, but they are a statistical minority.
How can <5% of the population cow or blob the 95%? In a game where you can't die, and are not burdened by the legacy inequalities of inheritance and genetics, the only reason the 95% may not be voting or forming large, unassailable alliances is their apathy.
Do you think my evaluation here is incorrect?
Quote:By the way, lovely new profile icon.
Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33276
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:27:04 -
[89] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel.
Like playing Quake?
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23469
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:32:13 -
[90] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel. Like playing Quake?
I wish I could understand what you meant, Blue.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33276
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:39:50 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel. Like playing Quake? I wish I could understand what you meant, Blue.
Quake is the brownest game of all time.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15225
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:43:46 -
[92] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel. Like playing Quake? I wish I could understand what you meant, Blue. Quake is the brownest game of all time.
Not true
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Seven Koskanaiken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1415
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Sibyyl wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Jen, an Alliance being able to squeeze out more votes speaks to the spirit of "strength in numbers" that is characteristic of EVE. If others wanted changes they are interested in seeing, shouldn't they try to do the strength in numbers thing, too? Perhaps they have been blobbed, ganked, cowed and think they are the minority? Hisec contains the overwhelming majority of players in EVE. Amongst these, hisec aggressors may be vocal, but they are a statistical minority. How can <5% of the population cow or blob the 95%? In a game where you can't die, and are not burdened by the legacy inequalities of inheritance and genetics, the only reason the 95% may not be voting or forming large, unassailable alliances is their apathy. Do you think my evaluation here is incorrect? Quote:By the way, lovely new profile icon. Thank you. It is a reflection of how I feel.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:08:33 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Jen, an Alliance being able to squeeze out more votes speaks to the spirit of "strength in numbers" that is characteristic of EVE. If others wanted changes they are interested in seeing, shouldn't they try to do the strength in numbers thing, too? Perhaps they have been blobbed, ganked, cowed and think they are the minority? the only reason the 95% may not be voting or forming large, unassailable alliances is their apathy. I think the apathy has a root in repeated failure.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.02.27 02:27:20 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Most people don't vote for CSM because they don't know it exists. This is too true. I saw nothing on the launcher today.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:29:32 -
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baltec1 wrote:Got nothing to do? Then exercise your Democratic right and go vote for the CSM. My that's a lot of people to chose from, if only there was a way to know which ones to vote for. Well great news, we have done all the hard work for you! Sion Kumitomo Endie Thoric Frosthammer Manfred Sideous Bobmon Bam Stroker Sort Dragon Gorga UAxDEATH Corebloodbrothers Corbexx Steve Ronuken Sugar Kyle Tora Bushido Highsec sperg: But dem alls be nasty nullblob types. Quite right peasant and its that way for a reason. This is the year that CCP "fixes" sov and all of the above are dedicated to ridding us of the current terrible system and replacing it with one that will; Reduce goons to one region. Deal with the 20,000 supers (we arn't kidding, ******* things are everywhere) out there to end their reign of invulnerable **** machines. Make it worth living in nullsec without blanket nerfs to highsec Crush T3s beneath the collective heel of their boots End the reign of the sentry doctrine. The non voting masses: Why should I bother voting, its not like my vote will matter. Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game.
LOL - vote for Goons to "fix" highsec - meaning more wealth for Goons, and an even more boring game. It's like hiring an armed robber as a security guard. The best thing for the game would be a sharp curtailment of the influence of nullsec power blocs - an enforcement of antitrust laws in nullsec, and a breaking up of the major coalitions. That would be a real CSM platform....but for now, just make sure to not vote for anyone who the goons support. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:32:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:baltec1 wrote: ...
Sion Kumitomo Endie Thoric Frosthammer Manfred Sideous Bobmon Bam Stroker Sort Dragon Gorga UAxDEATH Corebloodbrothers Corbexx Steve Ronuken Sugar Kyle Tora Bushido
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....but for now, just make sure to not vote for anyone who the goons support.
Confirmed. Veers wants you to vote for Sabriz.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1471
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:38:24 -
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High sec mining? Sabriz and Mike. They disagree on most stuff, but both are interested in seeing high sec improved in their own way.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:46:15 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:baltec1 wrote: ...
Sion Kumitomo Endie Thoric Frosthammer Manfred Sideous Bobmon Bam Stroker Sort Dragon Gorga UAxDEATH Corebloodbrothers Corbexx Steve Ronuken Sugar Kyle Tora Bushido
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....but for now, just make sure to not vote for anyone who the goons support. Confirmed. Veers wants you to vote for Sabriz.
lol, no. Only CSM candidate who has done anything useful is Mike.
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Khan Wrenth
Hedion University Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2015.02.27 10:59:58 -
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I'm going to guess that of the majority of players that don't vote, don't vote because of much the same reasons many Americans (of which I am one) do not vote (I'm working on that last part). Issues concerning the game are complicated, and any given general issue has a lot of nuance and changing any small bit could have potential consequences that reach far and beyond the scope of that one topic. Much like real life. So, it takes a long time or a lot of experience to build up a wealth of knowledge about the game to understand most (but never all) aspects of any given single area. So when representatives stand up and talk about changes, it's neigh-impossible for the common capsuleer to understand the significance and consequences of their range of proposals and ideas. And that's not even taking into account the time necessary to study and truly understand the nuances of the proposals each one puts forth.
There's a lot of information to know, a lot of bias on the individual level, a lot of gaps in knowledge on the individual level (note: that's nobody's fault, this is a complicated game which is one of the selling points), and a lot of uncertain theorizing on long-term effects.
End result? People may care, but they can't invest the time enough to understand what the candidates are really talking about, the consequences of their proposals, how realistic each idea is for implementation, and top that off with a general sense of apathy for "CCP doesn't listen to us anyway", and you have a situation where there's a lot of implied disincentive to vote. Lots of work, doesn't matter, why bother?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:19:46 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
LOL - vote for Goons to "fix" highsec - meaning more wealth for Goons, and an even more boring game. It's like hiring an armed robber as a security guard. The best thing for the game would be a sharp curtailment of the influence of nullsec power blocs - an enforcement of antitrust laws in nullsec, and a breaking up of the major coalitions. That would be a real CSM platform....but for now, just make sure to not vote for anyone who the goons support.
Only two of those options are goons, most are our enemies. You see, we dont care about tags, where people chose to live in eve or what their occupation is. This list is the best candidates with the more knowledge of the mechanics in the game. This list is also supported by EN24.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:30:36 -
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baltec1 wrote:This list is also supported by EN24.
I thought you wanted people to take the list seriously?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
993
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:57:16 -
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admiral root wrote:baltec1 wrote:This list is also supported by EN24. I thought you wanted people to take the list seriously? +1 I read EN24 to clear my head of anything serious before I go to sleep.
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
173
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:21:18 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Bethan Le Troix wrote:Taking the devils advocate for a minute.
Sabriz Adoudel has a t least two good ideas:
Increase the wardec charges if a stronger corp/alliance wardecs a weaker/smaller corp/alliance. Arguable. The problem is that most of the most competent highsec PvP group that wardec are tiny, so the amounts they pay would likely not change much. Also, with his idea there's the issue that you can wardec anyone for cheap using a 1 man corp then invite your real corp as allies. The way it currently works is you pay more to have more war targets. The whole system needs an overhaul to be honest though. Bethan Le Troix wrote:Introduce small benefits to being a long term member of a player-run corporation such as small percentage increases in mining yield. So bring WoW guild perks to EVE. What woulds stop people simply running their own corps for one or two characters just to get the bonuses and still being about as free from conflict as they currently are? And then you'd also have the issue that a group wardecs them who they stand absolutely zero chance of defending against, now they have the options: - Drop corp and lose all of your bonuses - Don't play until the wardec is over. - Pay a substantial amount of isk for either a surrender or hire mercs which may or may not be effective. At the end of the day, that idea is to make it easier for wardec groups to force corps into positions they can't function in so that they are forced to lose out whatever they do.
Alright. You've blown Sabriz increase to wardec fees out of the water. I'll give you that one.
Regarding small benefits for player run corporations I still think there is mileage in this idea. It is an encouragement to pilots to join player run corps which are arguably more enjoyable to be in and the taxes are usually lower than standard NPC tax. The benefits might be staged - say 1% then 2% then 3% depending on length of membership. The benefits wouldn't necessarily have to be mining orientated. They could be for weapons damage, market taxes, or something else. Maybe there could be an option for CEO's to choose which type of benefit their corp would have. I don't think this idea is WoW (I have never played WoW though. ) and that there is some merit in it.
On the other hand I guess to be safe Steve Ronuken is the best bet for miners. |
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:05:32 -
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The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. This is because they CTA their pilots, usually in the thousands, to vote for their own self interests ranging from consorting on resource limitations and availabilities to sov mechanics and very narrow ship/fleet mechanics that will dull any ability of would-be conquerors from being able to take over their space in the same manner in which they did themselves. Such as assisting 1,000 sentries to a single pilot and 1-shotting everything and then petitioning for the nerfing of drone assists literally hours after taking space...
There is not, nor ever will be a 'pro-miner' member of the CSM without imposing term limits that extends to that players corporation or alliance, whichever is the larger to which they belong.
1 term. Any member being from CSM members corp/alliance within the last 12 months is disqualified from running in the next election. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:12:17 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. This is because they CTA their pilots, usually in the thousands, to vote for their own self interests ranging from consorting on resource limitations and availabilities to sov mechanics and very narrow ship/fleet mechanics that will dull any ability of would-be conquerors from being able to take over their space in the same manner in which they did themselves. Such as assisting 1,000 sentries to a single pilot and 1-shotting everything and then petitioning for the nerfing of drone assists literally hours after taking space...
There is not, nor ever will be a 'pro-miner' member of the CSM without imposing term limits that extends to that players corporation or alliance, whichever is the larger to which they belong.
1 term. Any member being from CSM members corp/alliance within the last 12 months is disqualified from running in the next election.
Hi!
Which monolithical coalition entity am I on?
Woo! CSM 9!
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2519
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:05:39 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. This is because they CTA their pilots, usually in the thousands, to vote for their own self interests ranging from consorting on resource limitations and availabilities to sov mechanics and very narrow ship/fleet mechanics that will dull any ability of would-be conquerors from being able to take over their space in the same manner in which they did themselves. Such as assisting 1,000 sentries to a single pilot and 1-shotting everything and then petitioning for the nerfing of drone assists literally hours after taking space...
There is not, nor ever will be a 'pro-miner' member of the CSM without imposing term limits that extends to that players corporation or alliance, whichever is the larger to which they belong.
1 term. Any member being from CSM members corp/alliance within the last 12 months is disqualified from running in the next election. Hi! Which monolithical coalition entity am I on?
or I?
m
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Varathius
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
157
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:14:22 -
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the only thing worth spending time on mining related in this game is this website called miner bumping. |
Bel Tika
Chronological Protection Agency
322
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:57:11 -
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Every aspect of Eve Online is worth doing, im sorry your so narrow minded to comprehend that
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.02.27 22:25:09 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. This is because they CTA their pilots, usually in the thousands, to vote for their own self interests ranging from consorting on resource limitations and availabilities to sov mechanics and very narrow ship/fleet mechanics that will dull any ability of would-be conquerors from being able to take over their space in the same manner in which they did themselves. Such as assisting 1,000 sentries to a single pilot and 1-shotting everything and then petitioning for the nerfing of drone assists literally hours after taking space...
There is not, nor ever will be a 'pro-miner' member of the CSM without imposing term limits that extends to that players corporation or alliance, whichever is the larger to which they belong.
1 term. Any member being from CSM members corp/alliance within the last 12 months is disqualified from running in the next election. Hi! Which monolithical coalition entity am I on? or I? m
Everyone knows the Gallente federation is made up of trillions of people!
Woo! CSM 9!
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23501
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Posted - 2015.02.27 23:01:49 -
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Gallente Federation degenerates elected to positions of power?
I worry about EVE's future..
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2520
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Posted - 2015.02.28 05:42:28 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Gallente Federation degenerates elected to positions of power?
I worry about EVE's future..
and well you should
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Bellak Hark
New Eden Media Organization
82
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Posted - 2015.02.28 07:09:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. This is because they CTA their pilots, usually in the thousands, to vote for their own self interests ranging from consorting on resource limitations and availabilities to sov mechanics and very narrow ship/fleet mechanics that will dull any ability of would-be conquerors from being able to take over their space in the same manner in which they did themselves. Such as assisting 1,000 sentries to a single pilot and 1-shotting everything and then petitioning for the nerfing of drone assists literally hours after taking space...
There is not, nor ever will be a 'pro-miner' member of the CSM without imposing term limits that extends to that players corporation or alliance, whichever is the larger to which they belong.
1 term. Any member being from CSM members corp/alliance within the last 12 months is disqualified from running in the next election.
Xenuria is your candidate. |
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:08:36 -
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We voted for Steve Ronuken in the end. I think he is the best choice for miners. Not that we have mined for several months now. Doing other stuff........ in-game.
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" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
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Zealous Miner
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Posted - 2015.03.04 21:22:53 -
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I can say with great confidence that Sabriz Adoudel has a miner's best interests in mind.
I have entrusted Sabriz with my vote and I encourage others to do the same.
I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too.
www.minerbumping.com
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.04 22:07:39 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. Did you fact check this before you wrote it?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1043
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Posted - 2015.03.04 23:02:14 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Desimus Maximus wrote:The only players who are ever elected to the CSM are from the large monolithical coalition entities. Did you fact check this before you wrote it? Let's break it down though shall we?
Mangala Solaris - RvB - large alliance (HS) DJ FunkyBacon - EVE Radio - spot light position Sion Kumitomo - Goons - large alliance (Null) Progodlegend - Nulli - large alliance (Null) Corebloodbrothers - Volt - large alliance (Null) Ali Aras - Noir - large alliance (?) Xander Phoena - Gents - large alliance (Null) mynnna - Goons - large alliance (Null) Asayanami Dei - no idea who this is or what their alliance is but not very big only 250 active members Corbexx - No Holes - large alliance (Worm Holes) Gorski Car - RvB - large alliance (HS) Steve Ronuken - 3rd Party stuff - spot light position
Sugar Kyle - Low Sec campaigner. Mike Azariah - High Sec newbie cuddle bear.
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2 - major exceptions 2 - high publicity characters 1 - wth? 5/14 definitely from Null Sec 9/14 definitely from large alliances.
Two from Goons Two from Red vs Blue
If alliances are managing to elect two CSM candidates then clearly not enough people care about CSM.
Highest votes ever for CSM elections? Call it 50K / 500K so 10% of EVE voted.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.03.04 23:46:24 -
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Also should be noted:
'Don't vote for anyone in the csm, they're all from large alliances' is a self fulfilling prophecy.
Woo! CSM 9!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1044
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Posted - 2015.03.05 04:15:36 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Also should be noted: 'Don't vote for anyone in the csm, they're all from large alliances' is a self fulfilling prophecy. I did vote for some of the current CSM because I think they are a good personality influence, such as Core or have put in a lot of work, like Corbexx.
I disagree with how they are getting elected and how ignorant most players are of what CSM even is.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:23:51 -
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A wildly off topic post, and one quoting it have been removed.
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:49:04 -
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As a miner, I do not care who, represents me. I care about who represents the good of the game. |
Anslo
Scope Works Overload Everything
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:57:15 -
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Trolls saying to vote for Sabriz aside (protip, don't vote Sabriz), there isn't a mining specific CSM candidate. Mike Azariah is your best bet, he's the high sec focused candidate. Actually focused on improving highsec for everyone, not making it a gankers paradise.
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Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
131
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Posted - 2015.03.05 23:00:05 -
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Funny how everyone has a blinkered view of how they want the game to be played without taking into consideration of how others wish to play the game.
Funny that some people believe that the sandbox format should only entail one type of playing style instead of all types, forcing their belief of their playing style as being the only one, true ideal for the game to follow.
To me all styles are relevant, based upon the way that the person wishes to play it, whether it being a carebearing miner or drooling homicidal ganker.
Unfortunately Sabriz only sees the ganker view of mining and because he finds it dull and boring believes that it should be changed to suit a viewpoint that only he believes should be right.
Simply put, there are more important matters in this game than worrying over the boredom levels that miners accept. It is the battles that we all read about in Nullsec between the massive alliances, the massive wars that result from opposing ideals clashing. This is what makes people within and outside the game take notice. Those changes which encourage this, is more important to be focused on and improved.
Improve Nullsec and i believe you improve the health of the game. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Arancar Australis wrote:Funny how everyone has a blinkered view of how they want the game to be played without taking into consideration of how others wish to play the game. ... Improve Nullsec and i believe you improve the health of the game. Do have a look through my post history and links from my CSM thread. You will find that I put forward some ideas I do not personally like but I think would balance EVE the way CCP wanted to design it.
I think Low Sec is important, it always felt to me that it should be a next step from High Sec leading you onward to Null and Worm Holes. That this is missing is leading people to stay in High Sec.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
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Posted - 2015.03.06 16:36:34 -
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The miners' CSM candidate would like to answer, but he's AFK. |
Quentin Marshall
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It's hard for to represent miners because it won't win you a seat for CSM |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
378
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Posted - 2015.03.07 18:03:11 -
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OP, Sugar Kyle knows something about mining. She's the next best thing, so vote for her. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1068
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:48:29 -
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Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:The miners' CSM candidate would like to answer, but he's AFK. Hehehehehe. I only ever go semi-AFK. Mining is the best time for "paper" work and socialising with corp / alliance.
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
1652
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Posted - 2015.03.08 06:13:26 -
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Sure, there are CSM candidates for miner-gankers, lots of them.
Tbh, miners take a lot of flak for "afkness" and all the CSM line up against them, when what they should really be doing is revamping mining so it's no longer an afk activity. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.08 06:31:08 -
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sabre906 wrote:... when what they should really be doing is revamping mining so it's no longer an afk activity. No thanks. I have more than enough PVP, more than I want. I could go ratting for more ISK but I like to "chill out" and do some mining between all the fighting.
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