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Praxor
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Posted - 2006.10.11 07:55:00 -
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Will CONCORD kill be even before can dock? I'm talking about a hypothetical situation where I have my self floating at "insta-dock" range with respect to a given station. Then someone comes out and BANG!
I know the guns wll target me and start shooting. But can I make it back to the hangar? Or will I end up being toast regardless.
I'd imagine if if were this easy everyone would do it. Jus the same I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Praxor
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Tubiger
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.11 07:56:00 -
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There is an aggression timer that won't allow you to jump through gates or dock at stations for... uhh.. 30 seconds, I think, after performing an aggressive action.
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:23:00 -
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The aggression timer is 60 seconds, which you'd have a lot of trouble tanking concord + sentries for.
Its also an exploit to aggro concord and not lose your ship in .5+
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Shadowpawn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:57:00 -
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I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
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Gabby05
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
because it just is, i didnt make the rules neither did he its ccp rules now go off and find another tactic to kill people.
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Shadowpawn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:06:00 -
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You are sooo-full of it. If he has the skills to out last their DPS it's not an exploit plain and simple . An exploit would be macro-miners that can be found in some systems 20 deep but that they choose not to see since they are getting their money each month. Get off of CCPs leg , you are rubbing a raw spot there from all the dry humping.
Shads
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn You are sooo-full of it. If he has the skills to out last their DPS it's not an exploit plain and simple . An exploit would be macro-miners that can be found in some systems 20 deep but that they choose not to see since they are getting their money each month. Get off of CCPs leg , you are rubbing a raw spot there from all the dry humping.
Shads
yes, it is an exploit. CCP has confirmed it and bans people who don't die from concord that attack in high sec. If you attack in high sec, you MUST die or else you are exploiting the system of concord.
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Leikeze Mrotserif
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
gimme the setup plz for tanking concord id like to go to highsec again -------------------------------------
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:49:00 -
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He's right.
There didn't used to be many concord/sentries, and people did used to tank them then escape. But then the infamous m0o corporation held a blockade in Mara which killed an awful lot of people.
Subsequently CCP introduced sentries/concord and mae it that you had to be punished for your actions.
Problem is now, T2 ships, uber-skills, and new tactics have meant that it's much more viable to tank sentries.
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MaidMarion
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80 He's right.
There didn't used to be many concord/sentries, and people did used to tank them then escape. But then the infamous m0o corporation held a blockade in Mara which killed an awful lot of people.
Subsequently CCP introduced sentries/concord and mae it that you had to be punished for your actions.
Problem is now, T2 ships, uber-skills, and new tactics have meant that it's much more viable to tank sentries.
Tanking sentries is a totally different thing from tanking Concord. Many can and do tank sentries .. not so with Concord when Concord pops pvp fitted domis in >10 sec
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Dekiri
Useless Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:17:00 -
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People who think you can tank concord or mix up sentry's concord and faction police have no clue what they are talking about and should better shut up and let people who have first hand experience talk. Thanks! -------------- My dad can beat up your dad!
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:25:00 -
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from what ive seen when someone is naughty in high sec is concord pretty much owns their target like a group of 12 Terran Battlecruisers yamatoing something.
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aeti
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:32:00 -
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its possible to tank concord in a dread long enough to dock again after nuking somebody
shame you can't build them any more in high sec ;[
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn You are sooo-full of it. If he has the skills to out last their DPS it's not an exploit plain and simple . An exploit would be macro-miners that can be found in some systems 20 deep but that they choose not to see since they are getting their money each month. Get off of CCPs leg , you are rubbing a raw spot there from all the dry humping.
Shads
you are wrong. and therefore 'sooo-full of it'
not losing a ship to concord is an exploit
Originally by: Oveur Internally dismissed as carebear whine, we quietly moved our Kestrels to another system. |
Dread Phantom
Caldari Project-Chaos
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
Lol this made my day, what a noob
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn You are sooo-full of it. If he has the skills to out last their DPS it's not an exploit plain and simple . An exploit would be macro-miners that can be found in some systems 20 deep but that they choose not to see since they are getting their money each month. Get off of CCPs leg , you are rubbing a raw spot there from all the dry humping.
Shads
Lol Your an idiot
It's an exploit because CCP say errr "that's an exploit" quite simple and you can't really argue with that because oh er they make the rules.
And yeah as said before a minute aggro is almost impossible to tank concord and sentry guns for to dock and just discussing it will tick off devs because as said before it's an exploit
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Kharakan
Amarr GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.11 15:10:00 -
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Not dying to concord is an exploit because it is the rule that if you aggro someone in high sec without appropriate rights, the punishment is losing your ship. Concord is simply the method of enforcing this rule. If CCP felt lazy, they could simply program your ship to instantly self-destruct on aggro. The rule is concrete - you can't illegally aggro without suffering ship loss - and Concord is an amusing and RP-correct way of making it work.
Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy...
...and ijust reached it ahaha...
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Orri Sarikusa
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Posted - 2006.10.11 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
Its not an exploit please evade Concord and dock, then mail the GMs and brag about it. *-*-*-* How to avoid a ban.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.11 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Praxor Will CONCORD kill be even before can dock? I'm talking about a hypothetical situation where I have my self floating at "insta-dock" range with respect to a given station. Then someone comes out and BANG!
I know the guns wll target me and start shooting. But can I make it back to the hangar? Or will I end up being toast regardless.
I'd imagine if if were this easy everyone would do it. Jus the same I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Praxor
Youre forgetting about the agression countdown that prevents you from docking or jumping after attacking someone.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.11 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
Because CCP has stated on numerous occasions that its an exploit to not die from concord if you commit aggression in .5 or higher ?
This is NOT the same as surviving an encounter with sentry guns at a gate in low sec, or if youre an outlaw, escaping faction navies that attack you when you enter system. The "exploit" label specifically applies to committing aggression in .5 or higher and not dieing from the concord response fleet.
Its not about being a "girlie fanboi". Its about knowing what the hell youre talking about, which obviously you dont.
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FullBoat
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Posted - 2006.10.11 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Orri Sarikusa
Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
Its not an exploit please evade Concord and dock, then mail the GMs and brag about it.
And, wait for them to reply.. "Thanks for the ship" They will come back and take your ship if somehow you are able to get away from them. You might be able to last a bit. I think there was even a thread on it a while back on how many times can you fire before they kill your ship.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 17:49:00 -
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I'm sorry, but the aggression timer is 30 seconds, and yes, you can dodge concord in empire space after killing someone, and dock safely. I've done it, and all I did was kill the person, then wait till concord appeared, and as soon as they did, I warped off to station and insta-docked.
Voila, concord dodged and innocent person killed. And quite frankly I'd do it all over again, if it weren't for my pesky low sec status
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Dario Wall
Caldari Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria I'm sorry, but the aggression timer is 30 seconds, and yes, you can dodge concord in empire space after killing someone, and dock safely. I've done it, and all I did was kill the person, then wait till concord appeared, and as soon as they did, I warped off to station and insta-docked.
Voila, concord dodged and innocent person killed. And quite frankly I'd do it all over again, if it weren't for my pesky low sec status
Admitting to evading CONCORD, and exploiting, is probably not the best thing to be talking about on the forums.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Cadela Fria I'm sorry, but the aggression timer is 30 seconds, and yes, you can dodge concord in empire space after killing someone, and dock safely. I've done it, and all I did was kill the person, then wait till concord appeared, and as soon as they did, I warped off to station and insta-docked.
Voila, concord dodged and innocent person killed. And quite frankly I'd do it all over again, if it weren't for my pesky low sec status
Admitting to evading CONCORD, and exploiting, is probably not the best thing to be talking about on the forums.
Thats cute, except you failed to notice I never said what server I did it on, and who I did it to. The fact of the matter remains the same, and I never considered it an exploit. If CCP wanted you to be OMGWTFBBQ'ed instantly, they would change Concord's behavior so that they did. But they don't - thats hardly my fault.
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Dario Wall
Caldari Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Cadela Fria I'm sorry, but the aggression timer is 30 seconds, and yes, you can dodge concord in empire space after killing someone, and dock safely. I've done it, and all I did was kill the person, then wait till concord appeared, and as soon as they did, I warped off to station and insta-docked.
Voila, concord dodged and innocent person killed. And quite frankly I'd do it all over again, if it weren't for my pesky low sec status
Admitting to evading CONCORD, and exploiting, is probably not the best thing to be talking about on the forums.
Thats cute, except you failed to notice I never said what server I did it on, and who I did it to. The fact of the matter remains the same, and I never considered it an exploit. If CCP wanted you to be OMGWTFBBQ'ed instantly, they would change Concord's behavior so that they did. But they don't - thats hardly my fault.
Even if you did this on the test server, there are rules. Such as, combat has to be mutual, so killing an "innocent" pilot as you put it, is in violation of the test server rules.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Cadela Fria I'm sorry, but the aggression timer is 30 seconds, and yes, you can dodge concord in empire space after killing someone, and dock safely. I've done it, and all I did was kill the person, then wait till concord appeared, and as soon as they did, I warped off to station and insta-docked.
Voila, concord dodged and innocent person killed. And quite frankly I'd do it all over again, if it weren't for my pesky low sec status
Admitting to evading CONCORD, and exploiting, is probably not the best thing to be talking about on the forums.
Thats cute, except you failed to notice I never said what server I did it on, and who I did it to. The fact of the matter remains the same, and I never considered it an exploit. If CCP wanted you to be OMGWTFBBQ'ed instantly, they would change Concord's behavior so that they did. But they don't - thats hardly my fault.
Even if you did this on the test server, there are rules. Such as, combat has to be mutual, so killing an "innocent" pilot as you put it, is in violation of the test server rules.
Oh yeah the test server has rules, but it hasn't dawned on you yet? Said innocent person was someone I knew, who by all standards is a carebear, but agreed to let me test the theory. Thus, an innocent person died.
Even so, on TQ, I'd do it if my sec status just wasn't messed up so badly and I could find someone to do it to
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Big Al
Free Manure Ask Me How
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:32:00 -
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something like:
(notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 596.6 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 813.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander barely scratches you, causing 342.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 587.9 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 615.9 damage.
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theblaze
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80 But then the infamous m0o corporation held a blockade in Mara which killed an awful lot of people..
Zombie Inc... Yulai? ----
Originally by: Dekein They will fix the node crashes with little text over your modules that say "You are 119th in line to activate Tachyon Beam Laser II"
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Orri Sarikusa
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Orri Sarikusa
Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
Its not an exploit please evade Concord and dock, then mail the GMs and brag about it.
Did it work have any noob pirates managed to get themselves banned yet? *-*-*-* How to avoid a ban.
The Manuel approach - 'I know nothing I'm from Barcelona' |
Rico Naginata
Border Revolutions
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
because in real life if you shot someoen in the street opposite the police station, they wouldnt let you go hide in the stations reception area would they?
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