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celous Caldari Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:38:00 - [241] mm Great story and all but one thing annoyed me the most was the GM put there nose init where it didnt belong!! Why did the GM acted this way? i am sorry but no reason for this act and ruin the porpse of the game! yet i feel MC could of won if they didnt mess around
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:49:00 - [242] Originally by: celous mm Great story and all but one thing annoyed me the most was the GM put there nose init where it didnt belong!! Why did the GM acted this way? i am sorry but no reason for this act and ruin the porpse of the game! yet i feel MC could of won if they didnt mess around You feel MC could have won against the odds they faced when we crashed the node? Wow... just... wow. Don't let MC spin a web of GMs giving IAC anything. Node crashes mean reimbursement petitions and lots of them. GMs must get involved if they can prevent unneeded petitions. We were petitioned for exploiting cans by FIX/MC and the GMs came. So bullocks to MC for trying to make it seem the GMs were not wanted in this battle by them. I don't know why people think the GMs acted unfairly. We took the brunt of the node crashes and noone on our side knew that we didn't retake the outpost when we got it back because of a node crash. The whole op was a distaster for both sides that day. Any IAC that diliberately exploited ( by that I mean gained something against the explicit word of the GM in local ) should be petitioned by MC. Its as simple as that. Noone here wants a unfair fight... oh wait... looking at the MC killboards nodecrash kills are posted in their favor. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:24:00 - [243] Edited by: Grimster on 13/10/2006 23:25:14 Sorry had to lol. We take an outpost (afterall this was/is your home) you can be damned sure everyone in alliance knows about it, so let's see... Lesser of two evils? Half a dozen losses because of random warp-ins to station or the loss of an outpost. The numbers are slightly skewed, but as I/we have said before we got screwed by the game, it's just a matter of degrees of how that was taken advantage of. Less spin please, what's done is done, stick your hands up and say what was what and leave it, sure we killed a few ships but the trade off was we lost a 30 billion isk outpost and staging area. You do the math. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:27:00 - [244] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/10/2006 23:28:46 Grimster are you serious ? You lost an outpost you hadn't even gained control of and had no chance of acquiring sovereignity of , wow big loss there ! Your argument here is seriously dumb, there's a reason they call it station ping pong and it's that it's no big deal if you lose it or gain it when nobody has sovereignity. PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. http://eve.klaki.net/
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:30:00 - [245] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/10/2006 23:28:46 Grimster are you serious ? You lost an outpost you hadn't even gained control of and had no chance of acquiring sovereignity of , wow big loss there ! Your argument here is seriously dumb, there's a reason they call it station ping pong and it's that it's no big deal if you lose it or gain it when nobody has sovereignity. PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. Less smack more fact, outpost was at 95% shields and it was handed to you. Get serious yourself. Arrogance is not really a laudable quality. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:38:00 - [246] Edited by: Alfarinn on 13/10/2006 23:40:09 Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk stuff more stuff We could explore the what-if's for another 5 pages, but then we'd all end-up sounding bitter like Raid does
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.14 01:53:00 - [247] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. Its a game... i dont hate anyone...
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:32:00 - [248] Quote: Less smack more fact, outpost was at 95% shields and it was handed to you. Get serious yourself. Arrogance is not really a laudable quality. Here's a couple of facts for ya lil newbie; Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, GMs were not involved in this at all, you still got ISK from repairs etc but we were able to dock and you weren't. Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:32:00 - [249] Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:54:00 - [250] Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Thundirr	Posted - 2006.10.14 04:14:00 - [251] ...Recalls camping gate in frig gang on a beer induced death run and being evenly matched in numbers with MC and the dont engage in their T2 fitted ships... guess the beer induces frig raid vs T2 ships w/ fittings is the best way to go. Pass the beer!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:09:00 - [252] heh atleast IRON is willing to engage. Was a funny battle though i think there were 4 different alliance gangs in ZX for that fight, ascn/iac/-M-/Iron. I thought i was pretty **** cause there were about 15 on overview, but it turned out half was a different gang hehe. <3 cluster battles. In rust we trust!!!**
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:16:00 - [253] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Here's a couple of facts for ya lil newbie; ^^ Blatant, arrogant smack. Grimster has been playing this game as long as you have, Tyyrax. This is beneath you and will only serve to make things personal when they don't need to be. Quote: Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, The game's broken code sure as hell did. Briefly? You were able to dock and move ships out of it (with and without GM assistance) for the better part of eighteen hours. GMs were not involved in this at all, you still got ISK from repairs etc but we were able to dock and you weren't. Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? You didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. Quote: Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. Grim may not have all the facts, but he's not the one trying to spin things ATM, Ty. This war has barely even started and you seem to think you have all the answers / facts. You don't. Neither do I, but you might want to take a step back with these posts of yours and just wait and see how things play out. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:30:00 - [254] Edited by: Murukan on 14/10/2006 05:30:10 mmm sel how personal you want to make it? Some candles, a bottle of wine, coughs i mean erm... Shooty shooty? In rust we trust!!!
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:59:00 - [255] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 06:10:00 - [256] Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 14/10/2006 06:13:53 Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 14/10/2006 05:21:47 Quote: Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, The game's broken code sure as hell did. Briefly? You were able to dock and move ships out of it (with and without GM assistance) for the better part of eighteen hours. Boo hoo, as tyrrax said, u still got all the isk, refine taxes, market taxes, it probably MADE you isk by us being able to dock, buy, refine, repair and all those other stationy things. Fact is you didn't have sov and wether you like it or not, you weren't going to hold it for long after we got sov back anyway, sure u may have got more kills but thats about it. Originally by: Seleene Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? We'll never know, will we?? Oh, and you didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. I don't think i even SAW u online and i was running 3+ characters the entire time when i was home. Yes we did have 320+ people. What we did have wasn't all taken down, i know you didn't say all but its implied. Don't think i lost a ship aside from a taranis. Originally by: Seleene Quote: Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. Grim may not have all the facts, but he's not the one trying to spin things ATM, Ty. This war has barely even started and you seem to think you have all the answers / facts. You don't. Neither do I, but you might want to take a step back with these posts of yours and just wait and see how things play out. Yes yes we already know you're coming back, why don't you just tell us when so we can roll out the welcome waggon, nether the less you'll have alot less free time next time you guys show up. Originally by: Seleene BTW, did you actually attack one of our gangs with Armour Maintenance Drones tonight? ROFL, drunk swarm FTW! Edit: BTW: I must thank you for being able to remove the LV campers from RNF, they're finally gone... well for now, they'll no doubt be back. Cloaked + stabs + run away from every fight FTL...
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:11:00 - [257] I think this is something neither side is going to agree on and both have our own point of views. So lets let it drop grab our geddons with heavy armour drone bots and help to heal our enemies .
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:32:00 - [258] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 14/10/2006 09:35:31 Panic'd ? me ? I just sicced them on him for a laugh, didn't have any combat drones and couldn't hit a harpy at 5 km with Tachyons. Why don't you ask the guy in the pilgrim there if I panicced Glad to see you're all so exstatic about taking out one of my armas, you'd think it was the Imperial one from all the fuss Oh and maybe you should come back in strength enough to actually be relevant ? As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by clearing out the LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. http://eve.klaki.net/
LANAA NOPHEX PRISIM Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:51:00 - [259] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Glad to see you're all so exstatic about taking out one of my armas, you'd think it was the Imperial one from all the fuss . You probably had the GM's move it for you anyway tbh Tyraxx.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:55:00 - [260] Good to see another smack free conflict :) What with this and BoB/ASCN its party time on this forum... more fun than actually logging in.
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:57:00 - [261] Getting your stuff (dread,ships,cargo,fuel anything you could ram inside a ships cargo) moved out of the system by a gm is very direct interference. We gained a few free kills which we got because we reformed at the station whilst you reformed at a ss. If you held the station in a military manner you'd have got the free kills. We all got randomly warped just like you. I ended up on the gate with 5 iac battleships on my own couple of times due to **ty warps. Difference is we managed to use the bad situation and continue doing our job. So while you could have done what we did and gained kills you didnt... there is no way we could have changed the gm's decision to effect your freebies. Those are 2 very different advantages and to try to spin it like we gained ** from it is ludicris... oh we made couple of million from repairs costs, yes I'm sure that 2mil will help us create the element of surprise again lol As for not getting decent fight of us you had one yesterday in f4 @ 1p gate we jumped through gate into the IAC forces.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:14:00 - [262] Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. :) We like a challenge, but engaging that would've been downright stupid. You had 20-25 in gang, we had 15 in gang. You had us outnumbered in cruisers and frigates by approx 5 in each class. I "scouted" you as you jumped into F4R (25% armor, phew) and managed to make a scan of your little squad while running like a little girl. Seeing what you had and what we had, we didn't really see a challenge in that one. :) Maybe if you had tried to camp us in inside Jamunda and spread over the two gates... :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Jnr Rau The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:27:00 - [263] Anyone here a real docter.. cause there are plenty of spin docters thats for sure. I was in G-7 local when the crap about IAC getting moved out of G-7 happened... I could post local chat showing Mcfix forces complaining about being stuck trying to get out. Those of us in the station were ordered not to undock during the cease fire by GM Ginger and to my knowledge this was adhered to. He was allowing MC combatants to leave the system and continue playing the game, this did also include a couple of IAC pilots who made it to various gates, not the other way around. Most of IAC was logging off because we were losing ships to the random warps. It was actually safer to be in the outpost and wait for a clone jump timer to tick away then clone jump out. In terms of the node crash and outpost bugs, they made no difference at all to the final outcome thus far. Sel its a nicely written post about the happenings of last weekend from your point of view. Maybe this weekend you'll have something more exciting to write about, but I doubt it unless you pass the spin doctor class exam which is scheduled for manlove sunday, all of mcfix and friends are welcome. GF's to all and may the drunkswarms reign supreme
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:35:00 - [264] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Originally by: Seleene Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? We'll never know, will we?? Oh, and you didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. I don't think i even SAW u online and i was running 3+ characters the entire time when i was home. Yes we did have 320+ people. What we did have wasn't all taken down, i know you didn't say all but its implied. Don't think i lost a ship aside from a taranis. Seleene was on his alt that morning and he gets directly informed by his FCs of the state of the field when he happens to not be online. :) Especially for the more vocal FCs in the MC, it's really nice to fly another character than your main for a change if you fancy surviving a battle. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:47:00 - [265] Gotta admit this is starting to make hysterical reading, back in World War2 Online we used to joke that the Axis players whined so much and what they really wanted was a permission to die button, now i'd love to see the official figures on who petitions the most ship losses in this conflict/game, MC or IAC ??? i bet that'd be a right truth teller eh........ I remember this classic line posted in G7 Local Quote: Petition window closed I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:08:00 - [266] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by keeping LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. ATTENTION -LV-!!! afaik, you guys are blue to the MC. Might talk to Eddz, but I see no reason you can't continue to bother the bears should you get your standings sorted. Maybe learn to play nice w/ FIX too ;) @Tyrrax - I dunno. You sure seemed rather cross after that gank. You made poor Hans sad :(. Play nice, mmkay? Turn the other cheek and all that? Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Dracolich North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:48:00 - [267] Nice story, Seleene. Sounds like heck of fun, and some things not so fun. I haven't read all pages, but at first it seems like all were very friendly in the beginning of the thread, and then now its reduced to - well, anything but. From what I have been reading, both sides should be very proud of themselves.
krissi79 FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.14 14:44:00 - [268] Playing nice with FIX hehe Lets just say FIX have brought more friends to IAC side making your battle harder bla bla bla , my talk here dont reflect LV leadership bla bla
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 15:52:00 - [269] Originally by: krissi79 Playing nice with FIX hehe Lets just say FIX have brought more friends to IAC side making your battle harder bla bla bla , my talk here dont reflect LV leadership bla bla You make it sound like thats bad for us lol.... more targets = good :)
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 16:10:00 - [270] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. :) We like a challenge, but engaging that would've been downright stupid. You had 20-25 in gang, we had 15 in gang. You had us outnumbered in cruisers and frigates by approx 5 in each class. I "scouted" you as you jumped into F4R (25% armor, phew) and managed to make a scan of your little squad while running like a little girl. Seeing what you had and what we had, we didn't really see a challenge in that one. :) Maybe if you had tried to camp us in inside Jamunda and spread over the two gates... :) places his tin foil hat tightly on his head Meh, c'mon! Since you guys are BoB alts (and we know that if enough BoB characters just stare at a system long enough on the map that PoSs explode and outposts melt, without them even being in the system!) ya'll could have spanked us. need pew, pew "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers

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