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Hamoi Jane
Ponzi Fiduciary Trust Group
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:36:00 -
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I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage
Thanks for your consideration. |
CynoNet Two
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
261
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:15:00 -
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Supporting this because it benefits some lone hi-sec dude and his two little towers. **** everyone else who asked for this change!
(not really) |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:16:00 -
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Hamoi Jane wrote:I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage
Thanks for your consideration.
Awwwwww your personal High sec POSs will no longer be profitable?
How terrible Working as intended, get friends.
Also, an extra step? Thats absolutely great. Its one more step people can make money off of. Its also a step that enables POS logistics to be much easier. |
thetwilitehour
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:23:00 -
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I'm gonna agree that the needs of your one man corp far outweigh the hassle that is fueling towers for the vast majority of tower fuelers, aka the 0.0 alliances. Risk free play is what CCP is about, so your proposal makes perfect sense. We should enable play styles such as your where you only interact with others via the market, if that counter doesn't tick over on your isk as fast as you want you'd probably unsubscribe. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
220
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:48:00 -
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Admitting to giving the OP the "like"...not because I agree though. I saw how many the OP had and laughed...then I felt bad. Negative Kharma sucks so I "liked".
Now...stop badposting. Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:21:00 -
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counter proposal -- stop trying to solo in a multiplayer game.
alternatively, biomass yourself.
@ Vertisce -- "zero" is not negative... think you should have left well enough alone |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
183
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:51:00 -
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Hamoi Jane wrote:I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage
Thanks for your consideration.
Go and do hisec incursions for.. wait, didnt I already say this? HIsec is a massive isk faucet, it needs a few extra sinks. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Tahna Rouspel
BWE Special Forces Rage Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:01:00 -
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I like the new Fuel Block. It will make my life a lot easier when refilling the fuel bay. Also, if the price is good, it means I won't have to constantly check for what is missing in the fuel bay.
If POS fuel becomes a widespread problem, then I'm sure CCP will look into it. Until then, if you're unable to pay the maintenance fee, than find something else. Share a POS with a corp or a friend to cut down on cost. There's always something else, and worse case, you just make less isk. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
853
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Posted - 2011.12.03 09:51:00 -
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I have multiple towers in hi-sec.
I prefer this new fuel block thing since I use allot less fuel compared to the old system.
You suck at math.
kthanx |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.04 22:21:00 -
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+1 It wasn't a good change, though I'm glad CCP tweaked it to make it less bad. |
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Breaker77
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.05 00:15:00 -
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Hamoi Jane wrote:triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate.
WTF is LOX and DeO2?
POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water.
Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O
Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently.
If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot.
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 03:07:00 -
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The wants of the few outweigh the needs of the many I suppose. |
Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:28:00 -
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The positive side of the introduction of fuel blocks far outweighs the negatives.
Not supported. |
Cid SilverWing
Grim Determination Clockworks Inc. Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:52:00 -
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Get friends or uninstall EVE. Simple as. MMO's weren't made for singleplayer. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.06 05:05:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:The wants of the few outweigh the needs of the many I suppose.
Hence why this game is now called sub-caps online |
Raleigh Dawn
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.06 07:25:00 -
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Breaker77 wrote:Hamoi Jane wrote:triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. WTF is LOX and DeO2? POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water. Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently. If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot. O: Atomic Oxygen H: Atomic Hydrogen D: Atomic Deuterium (also, -¦H) OGéé: Molecular Oxygen OGéâ: Ozone HGééO: Water HGééOGéé: Hydrogen Peroxide DGééO: Heavy Water (also, -¦HGééO) |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.12.06 12:28:00 -
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Raleigh Dawn wrote:Breaker77 wrote:Hamoi Jane wrote:triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. WTF is LOX and DeO2? POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water. Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently. If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot. O: Atomic Oxygen H: Atomic Hydrogen D: Atomic Deuterium (also, -¦H) OGéé: Molecular Oxygen OGéâ: Ozone HGééO: Water HGééOGéé: Hydrogen Peroxide DGééO: Heavy Water (also, -¦HGééO)
yeah, I think Breaker meant D20 (note, I dunno how to make the sub/superscript characters)... least that was the way I read it at first, rather than "two water molecules".
also, wikipedia indicates that liquid ozone is dark blue rather than white/colourless... CCP MOAR COLOUR!
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Wolodymyr
Mando'a Navy Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.06 13:59:00 -
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Hamoi Jane wrote:Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources.. Let me guess, as soon as you get wardecked you have 24 hours to turn them back on again?
This is why I hate highsec and damn near everyone in it. |
Breaker77
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.06 23:10:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:yeah, I think Breaker meant D20 (note, I dunno how to make the sub/superscript characters )... least that was the way I read it at first, rather than "two water molecules".
Pretty much. If you noticed there are no super/sub scripts used. I don't know how to make them either
Quote: also, wikipedia indicates that liquid ozone is dark blue rather than white/colourless... CCP MOAR COLOUR!
hmmm, Thats interesting.
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Grozdan Boyadijev
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:42:00 -
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Hamoi Jane wrote:I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage
Thanks for your consideration.
But now you don't have to go turn on your defense mods, just leave them running all the time!.
Alternatively, if you're using that little CPU or PG, down-grade to the next smaller size of tower. If you're hardly making a dent in the PG and CPU of a small tower, you need to use your towers for more. Of course, the vast majority of players aren't complaining because their towers are profitable enough that even if they weren't fully utilizing the PG and GPU of the tower, they can afford full usage. Maybe you should look into making your operation more profitable first, instead of whining to CCP about a change that was announced well in advance of the actual implementation. |
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Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
356
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Posted - 2011.12.07 05:19:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:The wants of the many outweigh the needs of the few I suppose. I fixed your post. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
WIdot Director of Quality Control and Ironically Signing My Title to Posts To Make People ~mad~ |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.12.07 12:51:00 -
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Grozdan Boyadijev wrote: ... their towers are profitable enough that even if they weren't fully utilizing the PG and GPU of the tower, they can afford full usage.
Not always ... I've got one that's not "profitable" with the changes (it might break even) ... but even with the cost being less than profitable, researching BPOs with no wait (and thus, being able to bring things to market faster) will continue to prove profitable.
and the corpies like it too. Works for me. |
Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2011.12.07 13:01:00 -
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From the numbers I've seen Scrapyard Bob throwing around.in general, the blocks make towers cheaper to run, even if you weren't using all the CPU and PG. Large towers are potentially a different story.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=405610#post405610
Numbers will change as the market has to provide more of each, but still. |
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