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Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:30:02 -
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As the topic states, is it possible to run level 5 missions solo today? I remember Tengu and Rattlesnake being able to a while back. |
Leiron Thali
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Posted - 2015.03.04 21:49:11 -
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I know I've seen people posting various fits for certain ships saying they eat levels 4s, and a careful pilot, with MAX skills could do level 5s with the fit. I have forgotten what boats/fits it was, but I've seen it with multiple non-t3 boats.
Basically what I'm saying is: Yes, but IDK how. |
ACESsiggy
The Scope
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Posted - 2015.03.04 22:00:23 -
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Must be nice being able to run level 5's in low sec not being bothered.... Flying solo.
GÇ£The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.GÇ¥
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:09:37 -
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Solo level V stopped being a big thing when they got rid of all the hisec level 5 mission agents.
In terms of the rats: - AFAIK a passive shield Rattlesnake can still manage it even with the recent changes. - Carrier or Super will have no trouble at all. - It is probable the new bastion mode Marauders might also manage it ... not sure on that one.
In terms of other players: Once people spot you solo in lowsec in a carrier or faction battle ship you could have serious issues. |
Miali Askulf
Black Rise Freight
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:13:01 -
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Quite easy to very hard depending on the mission. I avoid the empire faction ones, but have done most of the pirate ones in an Ishtar - there's a couple with heavy neuting and EM damage that are problematic, but you certainly don't need a carrier or anywhere near max skills to solo them. |
Shey Nabali
Collapsed Out Overload Everything
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Posted - 2015.03.07 01:12:12 -
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Tengu could do SOME of them, but def not all, and it would be agonizingly slow for most of them. Simply not worth it. Probably same goes for rattlers.
Marauders work "ok", but they struggle with some of fastest most profitable missions (The Fortress for example).
Carriers are the best, currently, but you need either a plethora of pulling alts, in order to decline gated missions or a faction pulling character (with faction standings over 7.0), or a Marauder to run more of the gated missions to you can keep running consistantly. |
Little Kicks
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.08 01:34:32 -
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I'd love to try out L5s, but the thought of driving a 2 bil pimped Vargur through a lowsec gate will probably never sound appealing. Also, seeing combat probes on D-scan could be the longest 60 seconds in Bastion ever. I guess a mobile depot and full rack of wcs would help (that's how I run those pesky Burners), but what a bill if things go wrong. |
Dmitry Kuvora
WAR TEAM Flex Point
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Posted - 2015.03.09 10:58:39 -
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i'm farming caldari agents and this tengu doing them well(i prefer mjd raven for some missions) : http://clip2net.com/clip/m183246/1425897972-b7208-122kb.png?nocache=1
but you should know right missions to take and you will ruin your standing with opposite faction
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Desudes
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 12:21:06 -
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passive tengu/ishtar/rattler as far as sub caps go. Anything that can tank a metric asston of dps and deal dps without cap.
Only really efficient way to do it is with carriers or multiple subcaps.
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
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Aralieus
The Inf1dels
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Posted - 2015.03.10 17:12:38 -
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Using a Tengu and Rattle is not solo
Oderint Dum Metuant
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.03.10 18:43:06 -
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There are quite a few that can do l5s but it doesn't seem very smart to be in lowsec in one mission for a really long time. I mean when I see people running l5s in my area of low we watch list them and everything because we assume they are blingy to do them solo even if faction passive shield modules aren't that pricy. |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:17:05 -
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Janey T'gahl wrote:As the topic states, is it possible to run level 5 missions solo today? I remember Tengu and Rattlesnake being able to a while back. Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no. L5 Agent systems are staked out well in-advance, so as soon as you loiter for more than a few minutes you can expect to be probed, scanned down and scrammed. And that's before local spikes and a dozen or more ships suddenly join the party for the kill mail. And this is provided you make it through low-sec and the roaming gate camps in the first place. Stick to L4s - you'll be money ahead.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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khizy
Allied Investment Bankers Inc
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:34:06 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Janey T'gahl wrote:As the topic states, is it possible to run level 5 missions solo today? I remember Tengu and Rattlesnake being able to a while back. Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no. L5 Agent systems are staked out well in-advance, so as soon as you loiter for more than a few minutes you can expect to be probed, scanned down and scrammed. And that's before local spikes and a dozen or more ships suddenly join the party for the kill mail. And this is provided you make it through low-sec and the roaming gate camps in the first place. Stick to L4s - you'll be money ahead. I have commented on a similar topic to this before here and would beg to differ with you. I have been doing lvl V missions now since last year and have yet to lose a ship to pirate players. One thing you do need is patience though because there will be times you have to sit back and wait. As for saying sticking to level IV's is better, again I have to disagree because when LP's vary between 60-90k LP's per mission even if you only do 1 a night for a week it's the equivalent to doing 60-90 a week of level IV's for the same reward. No..it isn't easy but yes it is possible if you really want to do it.
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Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.15 23:27:53 -
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khizy wrote:I have been doing lvl V missions now since last year and have yet to lose a ship to pirate players. One thing you do need is patience though because there will be times you have to sit back and wait. As for saying sticking to level IV's is better, again I have to disagree because when LP's vary between 60-90k LP's per mission even if you only do 1 a night for a week it's the equivalent to doing 60-90 a week of level IV's for the same reward. No..it isn't easy but yes it is possible if you really want to do it. I'm not saying it can't be done. What I'm saying is that one L5 is only equivalent to a handful of L4s, because it's rare that you'll get the chance to loot and salvage. You can make $200-million ISK equivalent from the Enemy Within series (if you don't care about standings). The one thing I agree with is that you definitely have to have a lot of patience.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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khizy
Allied Investment Bankers Inc
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:10:38 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm not saying it can't be done. What I'm saying is that one L5 is only equivalent to a handful of L4s, because it's rare that you'll get the chance to loot and salvage. You can make $200-million ISK equivalent from the Enemy Within series (if you don't care about standings). The one thing I agree with is that you definitely have to have a lot of patience.
Have you ever actually properly tried to do lvl V's? Just this evening I did 4 missions and netted 361,396 LPs. If I remember correctly that is at least 36 lvl IV missions. Just how long would it take to do 36 missions? I very much doubt you could do even half that amount in one evening let alone all of them. In regard to looting and salvaging why is it not possible to do so?. You could actually do it as you ran the mission if you so wished. Personally I rarely bother because the isk value is pretty poor in most missions in comaparison to the LPs you are collecting and only bother with the missions that drop tags that can be sold. If my memory serves me correctly that can be between 25 mill and 60 mill a mission depending on which ones.
Like anything in EvE you can do things on your own but it will always be easier with someone else. I actually do them solo because it suits my gamestyle and real world commitments. I can make more in one evening than I used to in more than a week. Some weeks I can make several million LPs if I really really want to but admittedly I don't often do so due to always finding reasons to do other stuff. WIth the right preparation...vigilance...and the right mind set you can do lvl Vs solo...you can do even better if more than one of you and they are way more rewarding than grinding lvl IVs. Not by just a little but by a LOT.
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Quanah Comanche
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:02:24 -
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It would be a boring existence "staking out" Level 5 Agents.Hardly anyone runs them. Be a long wait. But if one sees a Rattler hanging out in low, it's likely to be found and attacked.
Unless the pilot knows what they re doing of course. Rare these days. |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2015.03.17 00:02:02 -
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Janey T'gahl wrote:As the topic states, is it possible to run level 5 missions solo today? I remember Tengu and Rattlesnake being able to a while back.
OP I have read this thread and others like it and I must admit i was interested in the past by this query. Since i have never run level 5 missions my input my be dismissed but please consider the following.
Level 5 missions are only given by Faction navies and those corps with the exact same LP items on offer. This of course means you will not be gaining access to many items that fetch a high LP conversion usually through 5 run BPC.
I would suggest consulting sites like fuzzworks and do some homework on the LP store offers for those corps. Then think on how you will actually convert all that LP before considering it actual isk.
My research made me think it not worthwhile. However, I would love to hear from one who has found a useful way to spend all that sub-prime navy LP in an enriching way.
Seems to me the real money from them would be in the tags if one could find a way to harvest them while keeping their ship alive. Any how, those are my thoughts.
Be careful what you think, for your thoughts become your words.
Be careful what you say, for your words become your actions.
Be careful what you do, for your actions become your character.
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Crystalline Entity
Outdated Host Productions Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2015.03.19 14:11:40 -
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So a few of my corp are considering trying out some level 5 missions.
I ran a few years ago in a carrier, this time I wouldn't be doing that.
I am missile specced so I assume I will use a missile boat of some sorts. Does anybody have any suggestions for a missile ship/logi pairing to tackle lvl 5s?
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khizy
Allied Investment Bankers Inc
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:48:54 -
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Crystalline Entity wrote:So a few of my corp are considering trying out some level 5 missions.
I ran a few years ago in a carrier, this time I wouldn't be doing that.
I am missile specced so I assume I will use a missile boat of some sorts. Does anybody have any suggestions for a missile ship/logi pairing to tackle lvl 5s?
Due to the Nuet towers in most missions you are best off with a passive set up . Rattlesnakes work well in most missions. Use an off grid booster to help and should be ok as long as you dscan like its going out of fashion.
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