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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.04 22:09:56 -
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Amen brother Kane...
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:08:39 -
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This is fun.
A trial newbie with no idea about the game mechanics has the solution to the problem.
Too bad, cause of same lack of knowledge, all his ideas suck even more.
Priceless
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:40:34 -
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Privateer Cove wrote:J'Poll wrote:This is fun.
A trial newbie with no idea about the game mechanics has the solution to the problem.
Too bad, cause of same lack of knowledge, all his ideas suck even more.
Priceless Surely you understand I'm forced to disregard your opinion entirely if you cannot logically deduce your reasoning.
Sorry, why on earth should I wadte my time explaining the game and all its deep underlying mechanics that are at play to a new player.
For the third time, go learn the game and you will find out yourself that your idea is "stupid" (as in, it cant work in the way your idea does).
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:46:08 -
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Privateer Cove wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote: Did you not see the part about manipulating the market to artificially inflate the value of said assets?
You will have to invest more than the actual worth of the bounty. As such it would be infeasible.
Hahahahaha.
Are you serious?
Game mechanics...learn them.
Market manipulation is both easy and very lucrative if done right.
Hell, some basic research on it would showed you that it has been done before (hintL Goons + FW overhaul).
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:48:28 -
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Privateer Cove wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Privateer Cove wrote:You will have to invest more than the actual worth of the bounty. No you wouldn't if you did it right, you would actually profit from the manipulation as well. As Kane said learn to play the game before you try to change it. So you're telling me, certain players can corner the market on PLEX. Whilst PLEX is being safeguarded by CCP.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Okay, now I"m just dying from laughter.
A. You can easily corner markets other then PLEX and make "useless" good actually appear to be even more expensive.
B. CCP does NOT safeguard PLEX. If you think that, you have a very very tiny amount of brain matter.
PLEX are as much free on the market as anything else. CCP has NO control over the amount of PLEX in the game and neither control the prices. Both are all done by us players, so yes, it's easy to manipulate PLEX prices if you have either the ISK for it...or are willing to spent a bunch of RL cash on the game.
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:49:39 -
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Privateer Cove wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:How do you relate the value of Fedos to the value of PLEX? I'm unaware of the definition Fedos, could you clarify this?
I call troll....8.5/10 for this one.
And reported.
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:52:27 -
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Privateer Cove wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Privateer Cove wrote:Well the important points to get clear currently are:
Defining asset est.value Defining illegal/legal bounty placement
Defining and liquidating est.value can be done by making PLEX the standard guideline for measuring bounty value. Defining bounty placement depends on where to draw to line, it has no benefit of exploitation.
Problem solved
Asset value and PLEX prices are determined though player actions on the market. You've solved nothing. Really, they weren't kidding when they said learn the game. Well it is a game that allows these elements, don't interchange game play with game mechanics. There should always be ways for players to undermine mechanics through game play. The aim of this system is that players can't simply use an alternative character to collect the bounty. Therefore making exploitation less feasible, however the direction CCP took with the current bounty system is quite shy. This is most likely a wait&see approach. You have to understand though, and I'm sure you agree it might be beneficial to work on this together. Rather than imposing it can't be done.
That system is already in place....you numbnuts.
Unless you are willing to blow up assets worth 5 times the value of your bounty with an alt, but anybody with the IQ higher then a slug doesn't do that.
So, you are trying to fix something that isn't broken....
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:57:08 -
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Let me give you 2 tips:
* Read up on how payments based on market values + market manipulations can EASILY be exploited to hell (also known as Jita 4-4 among capsuleers) and back.
* Read up on how sec status works and how binding a bounty to a sec status did not work in the past, and thus won't work in the present or future (actually, with Tag-4-Sec it would work even worse then before).
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