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Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:49:24 -
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If you are new to w-space like yours truly and exploring sites in low class wormhole systems, watch out for the gas sites labeled "Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir". They have sentry guns that will instantly lock on and pop an uncloaked scanning frigate, before you have time to warp out. Either scan them down and explore them in a well tanked BC or BS, or wait until you've trained for cov ops and warp in cloaked. |
Newt BlackCompany
BlackCompany Personal Corp
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Posted - 2015.03.05 10:32:45 -
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We used to just ignore those sites, but the gas is more valuable now, so they are worthwhile.
Go kill the sentries with an ishtar or T3, and then the gas mining is easy. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:44:53 -
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Or you could, you know, cloak...
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.05 12:20:58 -
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Unfortunately w-space isn't the great unknown anymore. In places like these you can look up what to expect in all sites:
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=OrdinaryPerimeterReservoir
However, I confess that the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir" also was an unpleasant surprise for me the first time. It is a rare exception though.
Besides, I can't think of anything a cloaky or uncloaked scanning frig should do in a gas site. If you wish to start the timer on the sleepers, you don't have to actually go there. Just "warp to" and abort before leaving your scanspot. This way you can trigger all sleepers and conveniently fly in with your fighting ships 20 odd minutes later.
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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:02:03 -
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perfect trap place. deploy bubble in that gas site and get out :) |
Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
1072
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:31:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Or you could, you know, cloak... Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...
Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Lloyd Roses
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:40:39 -
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Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.
On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves.
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.05 15:16:58 -
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Amak Boma wrote:perfect trap place. deploy bubble in that gas site and get out :)
I have seen this 2 times in 2 years, that people just warp to this site ;) |
Willow Windwalker
EPICentre Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:39:15 -
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Make several bookmarks of that site, name them 'loot1" or similar and the jettison them in different places around the WH |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4225
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:47:48 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Or you could, you know, cloak... Can't cloak if you're being targeted ... Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid. they shouldnt be able to in your invuln landing timer *shrug* not gonna lie, havent warped to one of those sites n a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG time.... (why would you...)
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
1072
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:46:11 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Or you could, you know, cloak... Can't cloak if you're being targeted ... Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid. they shouldnt be able to in your invuln landing timer *shrug* not gonna lie, havent warped to one of those sites n a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG time.... (why would you...) True, but a lot of people will panic, especially the newer players that aren't really clued up on this sort of thing.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:49:35 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.
On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves.
I disagree, a while back when I was in a wormhole a guy had warped into a site and needed help, all I had was my bomber. I was over 90k out when I warped in, when I decloaked to hit my afterburner the sentry instalocked me 90kms out and took 2 shots
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Dizzy Uzzy
The Projects Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
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Posted - 2015.03.06 16:33:30 -
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Yes, all these murderous bastards out there and you worry about the sentries.... |
Lloyd Roses
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Posted - 2015.03.06 19:07:46 -
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Agondray wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.
On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves. I disagree, a while back when I was in a wormhole a guy had warped into a site and needed help, all I had was my bomber. I was over 90k out when I warped in, when I decloaked to hit my afterburner the sentry instalocked me 90kms out and took 2 shots
You should blame that guy for warping out and leaving your bomber to catch sentry aggro.
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
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Posted - 2015.03.06 21:53:34 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Or you could, you know, cloak... Can't cloak if you're being targeted ... Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.
Yeah, and if you don't fly cov ops yet you can't even warp in cloaked. You can bring a bigger ship and blow up the towers from about 100km, out of their range. The tricky part is getting the bookmark in the first place, since once you re-ship your scan results are lost, which leaves you with the weird requirement to put a scan probe launcher on a Drake or something. |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2015.03.06 22:22:33 -
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Artemis Houssa wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Or you could, you know, cloak... Can't cloak if you're being targeted ... Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid. Yeah, and if you don't fly cov ops yet you can't even warp in cloaked. You can bring a bigger ship and blow up the towers from about 100km, out of their range. The tricky part is getting the bookmark in the first place, since once you re-ship your scan results are lost, which leaves you with the weird requirement to put a scan probe launcher on a Drake or something.
Bookmarks, do you make them? Protip: CTRL+B, or right click your scan result and select "save location".
Also, pretty much any "bigger ship" with an appropiate sized active tank can just warp into the middle of the site and blap, if they should be so inclined.
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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Lloyd Roses
883
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Posted - 2015.03.06 23:32:26 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:CTRL+B
I GÖÑ u. Seriously, didn't know, always went over the radial menu.
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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Sarah Jaxson
The Copernicus Institute
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Posted - 2015.03.07 00:31:28 -
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Warp in, set up a Large Mobile Warp Disruptor II and a Mobil Tractor Unit, then warp off. Go get your covert ops ship and go back and wait for all those nice people to scan down the MTU and warp in thinking they are about to gank something. |
Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
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Posted - 2015.03.07 00:42:10 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Bookmarks, do you make them? Protip: CTRL+B, or right click your scan result and select "save location".
Oh wow, that would have helped thanks for the info |
infra52x
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.07 12:20:31 -
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Sarah Jaxson wrote:Warp in, set up a Large Mobile Warp Disruptor II and a Mobil Tractor Unit, then warp off. Go get your covert ops ship and go back and wait for all those nice people to scan down the MTU and warp in thinking they are about to gank something.
im all over this....brilliant!!! |
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2015.03.09 12:32:16 -
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Sarah Jaxson wrote:Warp in, set up a Large Mobile Warp Disruptor II and a Mobil Tractor Unit, then warp off. Go get your covert ops ship and go back and wait for all those nice people to scan down the MTU and warp in thinking they are about to gank something.
9 out of 10 times it will be other Covert Ops ships, maybe even more often. Nothing will happen. The other ones will be heavy tanked scouttackler, who can survive easily the sentries. Then they will destroy your MTU.
Nice idea, but you need to add some other factors, e.g. a wormhole near jita or other areas where you have a lot of daytrippers. |
turbulent energy
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:39:39 -
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Dizzy Uzzy wrote:Yes, all these murderous bastards out there and you worry about the sentries.... the real problem is that i can't lock them in time with my cloacky proteus because the sentries already killed them.
That's the real shame! |
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