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wiersma
Dark Matter Systems
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:48:00 -
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Why i would like to see this change is simple
Missiles dont work verry good in space. Missiles depend on explosion force to do their damage. but an explosion needs air to travel trough. and in space there is no air for the explosion to travel trough. the only damage a missile does do is the kinetic damage of the impact and EM radiation damage from a certain nuclear payload. Heat damage and explosion damage is kind of rediculouse.
So would vote for some new weapon. something like disruptors. This is an energy beam that disrupts molecular bonds of the targets thus doing damage to it.
Heat damage would work like a microwave disruptor beam agitating the molecules in the target. Kinetic dmage would not be possible Explosion dmage would be difficult ( still thinking on that one) EM damge would exist of a high radiation disruptor beam
Caldari would be a heat and EM damage race like amarr ammo would exist of disruptor energy crystals.
Fix the missiles once and for all by getting them out of the game entirely
Replace all missile skills by disruptor skills of the same level
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:07:00 -
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Go away |
thetwilitehour
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:53:00 -
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but.. my immersion.
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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:03:00 -
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1) Explosive damage in Eve comes from a big burst of sub-atomic particles headed at you, not a wave of pressure (go look at a proton smartbomb). The reason that it's called "Explosive" damage is because of the fact its associated with nuclear warheads. 2) Shrapnel still works in space (we know that from space junk and micrometeroids IRL), that or you just drive a big fat KE penetrator straight into the target.
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Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2011.12.06 11:04:00 -
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Who's to say the missiles don't just ram through your external armorplating and then explode inside your ship where there's air? Or do you believe your ship is a vacuum on the inside as well?
How can anyone come up with such a bad idea? Removing missiles would mean removing all reason to fly Caldari ships. |
Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.06 11:13:00 -
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I'd start running, I hear the murderous roar of thousands of Drake and Raven pilots as they grab pitchforks and torches. |
wiersma
Dark Matter Systems
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Posted - 2011.12.06 13:30:00 -
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It was just an idea. and maby a bad one. no need to get angry about it. And i am not running for no one. And if missiles where to pentrate right trough the hull wtf is armor and shields for ?
I just think missile mechanics are F*ed up.. and need somekind of redoing. After all these years missiles still shoot from the center of the ship..
Also if you use missile in a highsec gank Concord reacts to te lauch of missiles not to the impact of them So if your missiles are to slow and totaly miss the target technicaly not even in combat concord still pops you..
I am a carebear so i dont gank people on a regular basis but still...
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Blastfizzle
Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2011.12.06 17:09:00 -
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"Heat damage and explosion damage is kind of rediculouse."
Flying towards the sun would melt your ship in real space... heat transfer is very well possible. |
MNagy
Yo-Mama Quixotic Hegemony
37
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Posted - 2011.12.06 17:16:00 -
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Lets not get too complicated.
This is a game and enjoy it for what it is.
If you want to follow proper physics and real life, leave your basement.
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
152
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:43:00 -
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Why are the Caldari, probably the most technologically superior race after the Jovians using Missiles? 27,000 years in the future they are still using missiles? I mean, you could replace missiles with:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start |
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Velicitia
Open Designs
168
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:25:00 -
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I'd love to see your sonic weapon work in a vacuum ... |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:42:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Why are the Caldari, probably the most technologically superior race after the Jovians using Missiles? 27,000 years in the future they are still using missiles? I mean, you could replace missiles with:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start
You will never be rid of "missiles"
A Missile by definition is a propelled payload of any number of different kinds being guided or unguided to a target.
A Projectile by definition would also be viewed as a minimature missile at that rate. (a damn fast one at that)
Hell even a Rail gun...or a Blaster....granted theres no "propellant" but it is a "ballistic missile" at best.
symantics yes...but this proposal is just utterly ridiuclous. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
152
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Posted - 2011.12.06 22:01:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:I'd love to see your sonic weapon work in a vacuum ...
It's sci fi, it can be made to work. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
152
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Posted - 2011.12.06 22:03:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:Why are the Caldari, probably the most technologically superior race after the Jovians using Missiles? 27,000 years in the future they are still using missiles? I mean, you could replace missiles with:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start You will never be rid of "missiles" A Missile by definition is a propelled payload of any number of different kinds being guided or unguided to a target. A Projectile by definition would also be viewed as a minimature missile at that rate. (a damn fast one at that) Hell even a Rail gun...or a Blaster....granted theres no "propellant" but it is a "ballistic missile" at best. symantics yes...but this proposal is just utterly ridiuclous.
Why is it ridiculous?
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Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:31:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Why are the Caldari, probably the most technologically superior race after the Jovians using Missiles? 27,000 years in the future they are still using missiles? I mean, you could replace missiles with:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start
The majority of these falls in the area of lasers, and blasters, which amar already have.
Though you do make a point, mabey caldaris racial weapon should be switched with the ammar.
To late though.
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Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
296
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Posted - 2011.12.07 03:34:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:Why are the Caldari, probably the most technologically superior race after the Jovians using Missiles? 27,000 years in the future they are still using missiles? I mean, you could replace missiles with:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start The majority of these falls in the area of lasers, and blasters, which amar already have. Though you do make a point, mabey caldaris racial weapon should be switched with the ammar. To late though.
You really hate the Amar, don't you? |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2011.12.08 03:41:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:
Plasma based weapons Photon weapons Nanite based weapons Phasers Dark Matter Turbo Lasers Phase Inhibitors Sonic based weapons Pulse Cannons Gravimetric Blasters
Im sure there are others but this is a start
Plasma: interesting, but in the end not much different than anything else we already have Photons: we have lasers already Nanite: which would be delivered on a missile but interesting Phasers: scifi Trek technobabble, no place in any sci fi universe that wants to stand on its own Dark Matter: could be interesting... Turbo Lasers: literally, supercharged lasers... we have those, they are called tachs Phase Inhibitors: random nonsensical technobabble... could call them Phased Modulated Warp Inhibition Extraneous Generators... and it would have the same meaning. Sonics: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... really, no Pulse: pulses of what? Pulses of air... heat... corpses... Gravametric Blasters: cool, but would not work as crushing is not a damage type in EVE.
And missiles will always be around. They are the simplest way to deliver a payload to a moving target. |
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