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Eaorgan Dax
Blood Moon Traders Zero Fux.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:38:45 -
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We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics? |
Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate.
1512
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:39:31 -
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Yes.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Paranoid Loyd
4027
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:39:31 -
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Yes, you must not be very good at diplomatic relations.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1028
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:39:45 -
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Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics?
Yes.
Why wouldn't it be?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10075
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:40:30 -
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Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics?
Given the name of your alliance, I don't see why you care |
Missy Spank
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:43:21 -
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Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics?
If you don't give them gudfites they will leave you alone, undocking and pew pewing them just encourages them.
My suggestion is move all your miners to another corp or join npc and avoid having to deal with the stupidity |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6126
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:46:09 -
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More wardecs incoming. But I guess this is what you were looking for, no?
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Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:46:34 -
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Missy Spank wrote:Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics? If you don't give them gudfites they will leave you alone, undocking and pew pewing them just encourages them. My suggestion is move all your miners to another corp or join npc and avoid having to deal with the stupidity
Or, you can ignore this, and just actually fight and have fun if you enjoy that ;) |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5911
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:48:19 -
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Is this a trick question?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
1923
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:55:31 -
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Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics?
In fact game mechanics have nothing to do with this. It's not CCP's fault if all of EVE is ticked off at you. Oh and I can imagine a few more incoming wardecs thanks to this post in GD. It's the forum's way of showing we care. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20183
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:57:04 -
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Rest assured good sir, that posting threads like this will surely help your wardec count.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23636
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:02:04 -
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Plot twist: OP is bloodthirsty and is inviting more flies into his web.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
1645
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:05:03 -
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Highsec is a cesspool. Concord really just protects the "highsec pvpers." Come out to sov null. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20183
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:14:41 -
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sabre906 wrote:Highsec is a cesspool. Concord really just protects the "highsec pvpers." Come out to sov null.
Shouldn't you be making another 'AFK Cloaking' thread?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3968
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:21:10 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:sabre906 wrote:Highsec is a cesspool. Concord really just protects the "highsec pvpers." Come out to sov null. Shouldn't you be making another 'AFK Cloaking' thread? No he should not!
This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1031
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:36:13 -
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Confirmed: Ezwal wants you to have more war decs.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20188
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:11:13 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Confirmed: Ezwal wants you to have more war decs.
His conversion to the dark side is nearing completion. Soon, Imperial Sith Darth Ezwal shall be one of us, and balance will be brought to the Force..errr.. Forums.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34333
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:32:23 -
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Well, when you have one of your guys writing a guide on how to be a successful CEO (a complete rubbish one) and telling everyone that you have been kicking ass for the last week, then you should expect more wardecs.
You invited these, all on your own.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20191
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:39:35 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Well, when you have one of your guys writing a guide on how to run a successful Corp (a complete rubbish one) and telling everyone that you have been kicking ass for the last week, then you should expect more wardecs. You invited these, all on your own.
The second comment on that thread pretty much sums up what were seeing now.Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:If you really want a successful corporation, you should read this blog and then do pretty much the opposite.
If you want to run a corporation that only exists to collect its taxes and act as war bait, follow the guide.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1033
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:43:52 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:The second comment on that thread pretty much sums up what were seeing now. Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:If you really want a successful corporation, you should read this blog and then do pretty much the opposite.
If you want to run a corporation that only exists to collect its taxes and act as war bait, follow the guide.
Op success, I guess?
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Zealous Miner
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:00:04 -
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Judging from the advertisement your corporation looks like a veritable smorgasbord.
I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too.
www.minerbumping.com
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20194
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:00:42 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:The second comment on that thread pretty much sums up what were seeing now. Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:If you want to run a corporation that only exists to collect its taxes and act as war bait, follow the guide. Op success, I guess?
Sure, why not. I claim victory eventhough I fail all the time. Its all about perspective. We all die, "OP SUCCESS! You all knew this was a welp fleet.. right? Im sure I mentioned that before we left." or my personal favorite: Victory is ours!But.. all we did was safe up and hide. Exactly, we bravely guarded those safespots.. and none of them were breached on my watch.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
2143
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:38:50 -
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How do kitchen appliances reproduce? Is it sexual?
Is my toaster sleeping with my sink? The refrigerator with the oven?
What a filthy, smut filled kitchen.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20205
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:42:54 -
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Leto Thule wrote:How do kitchen appliances reproduce? Is it sexual?
Is my toaster sleeping with my sink? The refrigerator with the oven?
What a filthy, smut filled kitchen.
One should never underestimate the promiscuity of a toaster. Never.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7594
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:44:45 -
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Leto Thule wrote:How do kitchen appliances reproduce? Is it sexual?
Is my toaster sleeping with my sink? The refrigerator with the oven?
What a filthy, smut filled kitchen. Considering how every appliance in the kitchen is designed for something to go "inside it" I can only agree with this sentiment.
Be careful with the microwave though. She's a magical freak.
Back on topic:
Yes, getting wardecced by multiple people is legal.
Yes, there are solutions for your "issue" (hint: diplomacy, moving to low-sec).
And yes, it probably has something to do with that "guide" one of your members are responsible for.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
543
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:56:40 -
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just drop and reform your corp/alliance. Wardeccs make highsec corps/alliances basically worthless...thankfully ccp seems likely to fix this soon. |
Paranoid Loyd
4035
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Posted - 2015.03.05 23:02:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:just drop and reform your corp/alliance. Wardeccs make highsec corps/alliances basically worthless...thankfully ccp seems likely to fix this soon. It's not a one man tax shelter.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23206
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Posted - 2015.03.05 23:27:22 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:It's not a one man tax shelter. You expect it to read before it gets on to it's 'king soapbox?
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
543
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Posted - 2015.03.05 23:48:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:just drop and reform your corp/alliance. Wardeccs make highsec corps/alliances basically worthless...thankfully ccp seems likely to fix this soon. It's not a one man tax shelter.
I know.
But if the war is sufficiently annoying to make posts about, it would already be less work to disband the alliance, reform, and run it like a fly by night disbanding and reforming whenever decced. And if that is too much work, don't bother with the whole corp/alliance thing so they basically are of no benefit anyway. |
Valkin Mordirc
693
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:28:29 -
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Eaorgan Dax wrote:We are an industrial corp that has been war decced last Saturday. Up till now, we have stood our ground and kept them from killing enough of their other targets. Yesterday we got another wardec in from another merc corp, we suspect they were hired by the first one. And then today we got yet another wardec, also hired by the first merc corp.
Is this considered acceptable use of game mechanics?
So Imma gonna level with you here, this advice may be harsh, if you find it that it is, I'm sorry it's just the way I talk to people.
So first off, Merc corps tend to watch each other Wars, when on Corp tends to dec and gets some good kills, Others will follow in as you've shown to be a easy target. So Losing a lot of ships is basically covering yourself in steak sauce and running into a lions den. Kill an Aggressive Wartarget is good. But Blue balling is even better. If you can keep corps from killing you at all. It's an extremely effective way to shut down any future decs.
Control is the most important part of the Wardec. If you can choice when the fights happen, you can win the war, either A. By not allowing any fights to happen, and stopping the fun.
Or B. Choice the right time to fight, Like you did with the Oruthurs, but this can be a double edge sword. As you may cause the Target you killed to Focus on you. Or B, cause them to bring in more allies.
As a Note, Pursuit of Happiness, Would not pay other merc because you happened to kill one of them. They are not like that. Give them some credit in that regard. POH are fine Mercs and pride themselves on being a "Merc Killer/ The only Merc Service who willings fights other Mercs". They are better then bring in allies. Insulting them like this would might make them focus you even more, that I can't say.
Now, coming to the forums and more less whine about all the people deccing is a VERY bad idea. The reason being, is that ALL the mercs, Advertise here in C&P and will see this. This is effectively making a FAR more larger target as you've shown to give 'tears'.
Marmite, Forsaken, Deadly (Now Absolute Defiance) PIRATE, Private Parking, and more Watch this part of the forums like eagles. So you've basically jumped into the lions den again.
To answer the your question, Yes it is allowed. You are allowed to bring in allies, as many as you wish. To fight back with. Even you don't have allies, then I'm sorry. But you're SOL. Work on getting blues. Useally if you can score a blue with another Merc, A big one, you are almost guaranteed a pass from all other Mercs. It's "Bad for Business" For merc to fight each other. You may get a big pay for it, (10+ Bill I can see some Mercs asking for Merc v Merc contracts) But you tend to lose a lot of **** on both sides, and most people in merc corps don't want that.
Now going on. The best way to handle a situation like this is privately. Talk to the Merc DIplo's. Like Xorphix and Zeus. Work out a surrender fee, or even better, future allies. Sometimes, you don't need to pay a large amount of isk to do it. If you can produce alot of ammo/ships/moduels mercs will take that as payment. Marmite has a deal to some degree with a few High-sec Alliances.
Sometimes we are nice too just drop the dec if you are polite.
But going public might damn you to further decs, and refusals to end decs even if you offer a surrender.
Hope this helps. Remember that in EVE, Friends are more important then ISK. Mainly because ISK can't shoot back.
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