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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2015.03.08 08:56:25 -
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With the upcoming sov changes I was thinking about null as a home ... but I still can't see the benefits to actually live in nullsec. Logistics, market access, defending sov, required highsec alts, ... all too strong negative points IMO.
For those of you having their main place of residence in null, please tell what were your reasons to move and stay?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1823
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:01:28 -
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Because of the changes that will be made.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
580
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:28:20 -
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I prefer null because it has the least restrictions.
ISK has very little to do with it. I'm bad at making ISK anyway.
I cant see into the future, but I doubt these changes will drive me out. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
813
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:35:35 -
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I have always considered myself a "defender" and "castle builder" - I came in to nullsec to want to be part of something, to help build something, and defend it against all-comers. The isk/reward has never been the point (I've tried ratting/anomolies a couple of times, and each time thought "this **** is stupid" and ignored it). I'll still be in null providing there are walls to defend... but that is what has me worried, its looking less like being able to stand on the ramparts and face down the barbarian horde, and more like sitting in the sewers under the castle rat-catching. |
Beans Headio
From Our Cold Dead Hands The Kadeshi
3
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:53:46 -
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The income from living in null is 10 x better than in high sec and if your with the right group of ppl its much safer than anywhere else..
No we dont have Jita round the corner but really all that equates to to a need to up your game...
the best advice i can give it try it with a good alliance and make your own mind up i promise you will never go back to High sec again |
Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
506
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:43:09 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I have always considered myself a "defender" and "castle builder" - I came in to nullsec to want to be part of something, to help build something, and defend it against all-comers. The isk/reward has never been the point (I've tried ratting/anomolies a couple of times, and each time thought "this **** is stupid" and ignored it). I'll still be in null providing there are walls to defend... but that is what has me worried, its looking less like being able to stand on the ramparts and face down the barbarian horde, and more like sitting in the sewers under the castle rat-catching.
This is a ridiculously simplified view. In lowsec fights do escalate to capital engagements because if you really really want something then you'll present the goods you need to get it.
Not to mention having 2x 48 hour timers with which to defend reinforced systems is more than ample time and in the cases where your structures are being trolles it only takes one guy to get it back
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1452
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:52:38 -
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Beans Headio wrote:The income from living in null is 10 x better than in high sec and if your with the right group of ppl its much safer than anywhere else..
No we dont have Jita round the corner but really all that equates to to a need to up your game...
the best advice i can give it try it with a good alliance and make your own mind up i promise you will never go back to High sec again
Highsec incursions in decent groups like ISN can pull 100m/hour reliably, with lower risk than similarly paying nullsec activities. As a very long time nullsec resident, the income is nowhere remotely close to 10x more. The only activity that is really safer in null than high is mining.
As for reasons to live in null; the player interaction, the increased consequence of actions, the diplomacy required, the group ops, the feeling of ownership. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
587
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:52:08 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I have always considered myself a "defender" and "castle builder" - I came in to nullsec to want to be part of something, to help build something, and defend it against all-comers. The isk/reward has never been the point (I've tried ratting/anomolies a couple of times, and each time thought "this **** is stupid" and ignored it). I'll still be in null providing there are walls to defend... but that is what has me worried, its looking less like being able to stand on the ramparts and face down the barbarian horde, and more like sitting in the sewers under the castle rat-catching. We love Goon tears! They're our favorite kind!
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Shiva Linga
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:58:22 -
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I live in empire and I like it!
*WIGGLE* *WIGGLE* *WIGGLE* *WIGGLE* *WIGGLE* YEAH!!! |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30793
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:00:46 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I have always considered myself a "defender" and "castle builder" - I came in to nullsec to want to be part of something, to help build something, and defend it against all-comers. The isk/reward has never been the point (I've tried ratting/anomolies a couple of times, and each time thought "this **** is stupid" and ignored it). I'll still be in null providing there are walls to defend... but that is what has me worried, its looking less like being able to stand on the ramparts and face down the barbarian horde, and more like sitting in the sewers under the castle rat-catching. We love Goon tears! They're our favorite kind! hah stupid goon is crying.
ah **** posted on the wrong char.
Help, I can't download EVE
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Juno Rook
Perkone Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:39:45 -
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I've lived in null several times and hated it each time.
I've even tried being in a alliance twice and disliked it both times. Sure there are some good people out there and there are good times to be had. Basically all we did was pick a few fights that I never saw because I couldn't fly corp fitted ships. So I was relegated to mining a bit untill a neut showed up and we then ran for the pos . I spent more time hiding out then doing anything else. Im not saying that someone will have the same experience. Give it a go and see how it plays out for you. |
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:01:35 -
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why should i live in hi-sec? why should i live in low-sec? why should i live in WH-Space? why should i live in null?
Why? because you want to
risk/reward? im tired of hearing about it, if something is fun for you, do it, if it aint dont |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:04:53 -
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nullsec = social game, hisec = still mostly single player
People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back --á EvE
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Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:14:53 -
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Garnoo wrote:nullsec = social game, hisec = still mostly single player
No really, the problem over the years was/is the mentality of the ppl that went to null in there distaste and/or reluctance to recruit ppl that are not interested in pvp and are wholly committed to the industrial or pve side of the game, which tbh wasnt there fault as there was/is no incentive to recruit them sort of ppl who cant or wont help defend your space.
If only CCP could introduce a sov system that makes/brings both groups together and makes holding space mutually beneficial to both, end of the day both grps need each other whether they like it or not an both grps benefit from working with each other |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
7860
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:19:33 -
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All the tools needed to make Null a utopia are in place. It could be a phenomenal place to live with open markets, a solid industrial base and good fights.
The problem is not the place. It's the people. If every null player wasn't a douche, 0.0 would be a whole different place.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:41:56 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:All the tools needed to make Null a utopia are in place. It could be a phenomenal place to live with open markets, a solid industrial base and good fights. The problem is not the place. It's the people. If every null player wasn't a douche, 0.0 would be a whole different place. Mr Epeen
Depends were you are. I meet a lot of good people in nullsec who are happy to share a system while you both do seperate things.
And then there are the tedious Russians who will scan you down everytime and set up gate camps to get you even when you have a jump drive |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3860
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:52:11 -
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Beans Headio wrote:The income from living in null is 10 x better than in high sec and if your with the right group of ppl its much safer than anywhere else..
No we dont have Jita round the corner but really all that equates to to a need to up your game...
the best advice i can give it try it with a good alliance and make your own mind up i promise you will never go back to High sec again Not that many people realize this.
Some people are afraid of null, because it must be even more chaotic than low sec, or they're hot damn independents who won't join up. So they make 1/10th isk for their effort.
Some assume they're leet because they live in null, possibly in a world of blue, and make fine isk doing much the same things as people in high sec do. Transporting things around involves some more risk, but what the hell. The scale of earnings/hour cover that.
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
-The Man with No Name
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
1654
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:55:11 -
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Recent jump freighter nerf - null dwellers now have to haul through whs.
Upcoming Sov changes - more roams coming to pop you
Upcoming local removal - no more intel on people coming to whack you
Coming soon^tm, sov null = wh space with gates, that you have to pay sov bills for, with far less isk in it. |
Gypsien Agittain
University of Caille Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:23:27 -
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Those of you that think that a regular line-member of an alliance makes more money in nullsec than an average highsec carebear know absolutely nothing about wealth generation in EVE.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Nulli Secunda
231
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Posted - 2015.03.09 06:08:50 -
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Gypsien Agittain wrote:Those of you that think that a regular line-member of an alliance makes more money in nullsec than an average highsec carebear know absolutely nothing about wealth generation in EVE.
And that's not a problem with the available wealth in 0.0, that's a problem with how its distributed and that's down to how corporations and alliances are run, and THAT is down to the players, not CCP.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
1655
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Posted - 2015.03.09 06:11:30 -
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Mithandra wrote:Gypsien Agittain wrote:Those of you that think that a regular line-member of an alliance makes more money in nullsec than an average highsec carebear know absolutely nothing about wealth generation in EVE.
And that's not a problem with the available wealth in 0.0, that's a problem with how its distributed and that's down to how corporations and alliances are run, and THAT is down to the players, not CCP.
That's like saying how the Soviet Union ran is down to its citizens instead of comrade Stalin. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
89
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Posted - 2015.03.09 06:18:56 -
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Bel Tika wrote:why should i live in hi-sec? why should i live in low-sec? why should i live in WH-Space? why should i live in null?
Why? because you want to
risk/reward? im tired of hearing about it, if something is fun for you, do it, if it aint dont
couldn't agree more.
Just Add Water
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roberts dragon
Starship Crusaders.
7
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:24:46 -
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do like the idea of going down there have a place to call home with the new changes I do think it might shake a few things up just finding the right places |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
51
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:27:57 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:With the upcoming sov changes I was thinking about null as a home ... but I still can't see the benefits to actually live in nullsec. Logistics, market access, defending sov, required highsec alts, ... all too strong negative points IMO.
For those of you having their main place of residence in null, please tell what were your reasons to move and stay? On the EVE Down Under podcast CCP Fozzie pretty much said null has truck loads of ISK being made. Like a LOT! So don't believe all the babies crying that it is not worth living in null. It very much is worth it and once these new sov changes happen, it will be even better. |
Ryder 'ook
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
134
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Posted - 2015.03.09 10:08:59 -
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Why I live in Null?
This is why
Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
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bonkerss
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
3
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Posted - 2015.03.09 11:12:09 -
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come to 0.0 for pew pew! |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.09 11:19:37 -
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I moved to null to join a cause, visit exotic places, meet the interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and kill them.
and never no cure from
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15428
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Posted - 2015.03.09 11:33:07 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:With the upcoming sov changes I was thinking about null as a home ... but I still can't see the benefits to actually live in nullsec. Logistics, market access, defending sov, required highsec alts, ... all too strong negative points IMO.
For those of you having their main place of residence in null, please tell what were your reasons to move and stay? On the EVE Down Under podcast CCP Fozzie pretty much said null has truck loads of ISK being made. Like a LOT! So don't believe all the babies crying that it is not worth living in null. It very much is worth it and once these new sov changes happen, it will be even better.
Not for line members.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Varathius
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2015.03.09 11:40:21 -
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Sibyyl wrote: I moved to null to join a cause, visit exotic places, meet the interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and kill them.
if those are your reasons, you live in the wrong place. Jita at the Perimeter gate would be perfect for what you described. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23708
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Posted - 2015.03.09 12:11:35 -
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Varathius wrote: if those are your reasons, you live in the wrong place. Jita at the Perimeter gate would be perfect for what you described.
Nullseccers do take day trips to hisec to enjoy the cotton candy and carnival rides. I've enjoyed a few SB00N ganks in Madir.
and never no cure from
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