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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:03:37 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote: So why so mad, then? because I ask?
The only one mad here.. is you.
Its ok though. None of us blame you. We blame your highsec upbringing. It seems the natural reaction of a highseccer to become angry when challenged, or replied to in anyway other than that which he wants to hear. Even when they receive the answer they covet, they are generally unhappy anyways because they have made up their mind to be so.
But I guess if you insist on understanding why General Discussion becomes perturbed over threads like this, its simply because of redundancy, especially willful redundancy as in this case. You know full well there have been numerous threads on this subject, and have admitted to having that knowledge, and yet you were compelled to create another because you felt entitled to it, nay, two threads, the first of which being locked!
Now, when 'Eve is dying' thread #4,522,991 is presented to us, the citizens of General Discussion, how would you prefer we react? With patience? How far does your patience extend good sir? Does it extend to the point of unlimited tolerance of the same question being asked over and over ad infinitum since the inception of this forum? Could you tolerate the same thing for 12+ years? I highly doubt it.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Cancel Align NOW
Greater Order Of Destruction The Good Christian Society
476
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:16:45 -
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OP.
Your thread is redundant as there are already threads in existence discussing your views. Post in those threads - opening a new thread is not needed - and breaks rules.
Present your argument in a clear rational emotionally even way. Ranting is not needed - and breaks rules.
Do not discuss the actions of moderators - again that breaks rules.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3201
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:37:10 -
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All "Eve is dying" threads are really "Eve is dying because you are not doing what I say" threads.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1843
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:37:22 -
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op: eve is not dying. the night time numbers are a bit up.
and to answer your question about the number of poist.. in envoke the forum guru..
Chribba... can you please post the link to that graph about the eve is dying thread numbers from last year? I don;t have the forum post memorized. thank you kindly (if thread is still open by time you respond)
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Orlacc
834
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:38:25 -
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We need more Best Buy clerks to point the way.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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DaReaper
Net 7
1843
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:42:11 -
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actually, the numbe rof new bros coming into eve is good
Newborn
The graph shows it's higher then its ever been, especially recently. nov had the largest spike in years, so.. you are wrong
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:43:29 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:OP.
Your thread is redundant as there are already threads in existence discussing your views. Post in those threads - opening a new thread is not needed - and breaks rules.
Present your argument in a clear rational emotionally even way. Ranting is not needed - and breaks rules.
Do not discuss the actions of moderators - again that breaks rules.
You are being treated the way you are not because of the message you are attempting to deliver but because of the way you are delivering it.
LOL. Wow. So many mad here.
I posted an opinion. That is all I have done. Look at the vitriol here.
Maybe the reason you see redundant posts is because the issue has never been resolved.
If you hold high sec in such contempt.. why bother replying at all? I am not a Carebear... but they are part of the rules that so many of you seem so willing to cling to. They are part of the game. One aspect. As are you.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1843
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:45:12 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:OP.
Your thread is redundant as there are already threads in existence discussing your views. Post in those threads - opening a new thread is not needed - and breaks rules.
Present your argument in a clear rational emotionally even way. Ranting is not needed - and breaks rules.
Do not discuss the actions of moderators - again that breaks rules.
You are being treated the way you are not because of the message you are attempting to deliver but because of the way you are delivering it. LOL. Wow. So many mad here. I posted an opinion. That is all I have done. Look at the vitriol here. Maybe the reason you see redundant posts is because the issue has never been resolved. If you hold high sec in such contempt.. why bother replying at all? I am not a Carebear... but they are part of the rules that so many of you seem so willing to cling to. They are part of the game. One aspect. As are you.
no, the vitriol is because your opinon.. mm sucks. and is wrong
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:50:30 -
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DaReaper wrote:actually, the numbe rof new bros coming into eve is good NewbornThe graph shows it's higher then its ever been, especially recently. nov had the largest spike in years, so.. you are wrong
So , interesting.
Seems that from '09 to '13 the new play membership leveled off. From '14 to present.. they seem to be in decline.
But that is part of my concern:
Those are new 'players'? Really? You sure that isn't simply a bunch of multi-boxer alts? Me thinks its mostly alts.
I am amazed the absolute vitriol given to a simple post regarding a legitimate concern. If all of you think that EvE will persist with the 2,000 of you having your 10 accounts.. you're only lying to yourself.
Without attracting NEW players.. your virtual sandbox that you have invested so much in, will turn into a barren wasteland.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23698
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:51:05 -
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Nobody who wants to have a serious conversation pulls the 'EVE is dying' card. You have a very tiny focus in EVE. No need to imply the whole franchise is going to go up in smoke because you are dissatisfied.
You derailed your own thread, unfortunately. You didn't need any help from the followup comments, in that regard.
and never no cure from
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:54:24 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Nobody who wants to have a serious conversation pulls the 'EVE is dying' card. You have a very tiny focus in EVE. No need to imply the whole franchise is going to go up in smoke because you are dissatisfied.
You derailed your own thread, unfortunately. You didn't need any help from the followup comments, in that regard.
So you believe that EvE will persist without new players?
That all of you 'leet' players of such tenure can subsist EvE with your multi alt accounts?
A mate posted the membership graph.. which by the way.. has no way of distinguishing new players from alt accounts. Look at the graph provided. Even if I accept that as fact.. EvE has already piqued by our mate's own admission. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
41997
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:54:31 -
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of course EVE is dying
it's a well known fact for the last 11 years |
Eridanix
Bishop Industries
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:54:49 -
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OP:
It requires a lot of patience to stand the "vets" and "leets" counter-rants, but don't worry, they always play the same game, called Forum Wars, again and again to the point that they have lost all they need, that is reasonable thinking and to be smart and kind with any other fellow gamer of EVE. This harshness drives to nowhere, but hence, they are here over and over reading the same over and over and bloating & ranting over and over. Irrelevant, they can do whatever they wish with their lifes.
To the topic:
I love EVE. It's one of the best games ever; it doesn't make me blind or just dumb. EVE needs a new incoming playerbase that is fidelizated to the game and the franchise. If not. theh we are locked in a Sandbox that is over-ruled by the same 10 guys who started first. And it becames boring, as a Dictatorship becames boring, as it's the same guy/side winning everything all the time, and then, there is no match. Wherever a game where is no match or possibilities to grow so strong as your oponnents, then the company running it has a problem. And we, as EVE players, are the victims of such Dictatorship. No one is guilty here, but the roughest people here are, in reality, sheeps. They are powerful because they are in a sheep pack and obey. Their strength rely on the collective, not in their skills. So, never worry about them. They are a self-protecting Hive of self-denied carebears who have found their "Leader", and the "Truth" seeing themselves as the Strong when they are nothing but sheep going to do what the watchdog orders.
To get a better EVE I would adress CCP to create new marketing tools and creating a "fidelization" team which is in touch with the playerbase, and not to the Elite playerbase but to everyone, and taking care of not locking any post that is contrary to an only "one truth".
For my part, I'm only responding to your thread and trying to add positive feedback and maybe some useful idea, as I want EVE to last forever. And to be better and to win over the new generation of High Quality Space Sims that are coming. And those new titles are fiercely good at getting new playerbase and to act in a democratical way. so that the people is really in a good mood, most of the time, and not in an horrible mood, the whole time, in their forums and in the game.
EVE has become so harsh that sometimes is TOO harsh for the newcomers, and without newcomers. EVE is not in danger because of the Talibans, but is a Taliban Country, so to speak.
If someone feels concerned by my words which are negative, then think in the real structure of you, oh powerful rulers, and then write, don't do that before thinking please, but anyway you can say whatever you wish, as I don't feel concerned by the sheep.
Thanks to the OP for speaking problems out and loud. |
Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 02:57:23 -
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I have already conceded that my OP was based on personal observation.
The snarky condensension layed upon me is the sort of attitude that is driving new players away.
But I suppose you believe that CCP will survive by your 10 alt accounts alone.... |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
41997
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:02:21 -
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you think people think everyone equally?
No, we just treat stupidity harshly, before it spreads |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23698
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:02:41 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote: So you believe that EvE will persist without new players?
That all of you 'leet' players of such tenure can subsist EvE with your multi alt accounts?
A mate posted the membership graph.. which by the way.. has no way of distinguishing new players from alt accounts. Look at the graph provided. Even if I accept that as fact.. EvE has already piqued by our mate's own admission.
Here's a graph for you
and never no cure from
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:03:15 -
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Eridanix wrote:OP:
It requires a lot of patience to stand the "vets" and "leets" counter-rants, but don't worry, they always play the same game, called Forum Wars, again and again to the point that they have lost all they need, that is reasonable thinking and to be smart and kind with any other fellow gamer of EVE. This harshness drives to nowhere, but hence, they are here over and over reading the same over and over and bloating & ranting over and over. Irrelevant, they can do whatever they wish with their lifes.
To the topic:
I love EVE. It's one of the best games ever; it doesn't make me blind or just dumb. EVE needs a new incoming playerbase that is fidelizated to the game and the franchise. If not. theh we are locked in a Sandbox that is over-ruled by the same 10 guys who started first. And it becames boring, as a Dictatorship becames boring, as it's the same guy/side winning everything all the time, and then, there is no match. Wherever a game where is no match or possibilities to grow so strong as your oponnents, then the company running it has a problem. And we, as EVE players, are the victims of such Dictatorship. No one is guilty here, but the roughest people here are, in reality, sheeps. They are powerful because they are in a sheep pack and obey. Their strength rely on the collective, not in their skills. So, never worry about them. They are a self-protecting Hive of self-denied carebears who have found their "Leader", and the "Truth" seeing themselves as the Strong when they are nothing but sheep going to do what the watchdog orders.
To get a better EVE I would adress CCP to create new marketing tools and creating a "fidelization" team which is in touch with the playerbase, and not to the Elite playerbase but to everyone, and taking care of not locking any post that is contrary to an only "one truth".
For my part, I'm only responding to your thread and trying to add positive feedback and maybe some useful idea, as I want EVE to last forever. And to be better and to win over the new generation of High Quality Space Sims that are coming. And those new titles are fiercely good at getting new playerbase and to act in a democratical way. so that the people is really in a good mood, most of the time, and not in an horrible mood, the whole time, in their forums and in the game.
EVE has become so harsh that sometimes is TOO harsh for the newcomers, and without newcomers. EVE is not in danger because of the Talibans, but is a Taliban Country, so to speak.
If someone feels concerned by my words which are negative, then think in the real structure of you, oh powerful rulers, and then write, don't do that before thinking please, but anyway you can say whatever you wish, as I don't feel concerned by the sheep.
Thanks to the OP for speaking problems out and loud.
Thank you Sir! You make many splendid points. The funny ridiculous thing is .. the original post that was closed by CCP included a suggestion to run some advertisements. That was just one of my suggestions! To run some damn ads. Hell.. there are tablet apps getting more commercial time than EvE does! I appreciate your comments !
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34577
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:03:44 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote: The snarky condensension layed upon me is the sort of attitude that is driving new players away.
Your OP here is snarky condescension.
It's not wonder the replies have been in the same vane.
How you word the OP has a lot of bearing on the direction a thread quickly takes.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:07:06 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote: The snarky condensension layed upon me is the sort of attitude that is driving new players away.
Your OP here is snarky condescension. It's not wonder the replies have been in the same vane. How you word the OP has a lot of bearing on the direction a thread quickly takes.
THIS thread was a response to CCP's own snaky and condensation . They closed my thread summarily, without recourse. THAT is what inspired me to reiterate.
To all of you 'leet', null sec roamers, haters.. jelly bros... thanks for the bumps, mates! |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
42000
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:09:24 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote: So you believe that EvE will persist without new players?
That all of you 'leet' players of such tenure can subsist EvE with your multi alt accounts?
A mate posted the membership graph.. which by the way.. has no way of distinguishing new players from alt accounts. Look at the graph provided. Even if I accept that as fact.. EvE has already piqued by our mate's own admission.
Here's a graph for you wow, you nearly killed EVE |
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:12:19 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote: So you believe that EvE will persist without new players?
That all of you 'leet' players of such tenure can subsist EvE with your multi alt accounts?
A mate posted the membership graph.. which by the way.. has no way of distinguishing new players from alt accounts. Look at the graph provided. Even if I accept that as fact.. EvE has already piqued by our mate's own admission.
Here's a graph for you wow, you nearly killed EVE
I like how you clipped and pasted a graph and stuck it to my reply.. which were part of separate posts. Well done! Thanks for the bump! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34577
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:13:24 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote:... and condensation ... Yes, I think everyone can agree with you on that one.
There is plenty of condensation here.
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Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:14:41 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote: The snarky condensension layed upon me is the sort of attitude that is driving new players away.
Your OP here is snarky condescension. It's not wonder the replies have been in the same vane. How you word the OP has a lot of bearing on the direction a thread quickly takes.
I would really like you to point out precisely where I was being snarky and condescending .
I don't think you actually read my OP, nor read the thread that preceded this one. |
Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
9
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:15:45 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote:... and condensation ... Yes, I think everyone can agree with you on that one. There is plenty of condensation here.
I'm sorry.. are you resorting to relying on autocorrect to make a point? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34577
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:18:45 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Ragnar D IX wrote:... and condensation ... Yes, I think everyone can agree with you on that one. There is plenty of condensation here. I'm sorry.. are you resorting to relying on autocorrect to make a point? Haha, no. I didn't autocorrect anything.
As for your OP being condescending, the last sentence is pretty snarky and condescending; and is consistent with the rest of the post.
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Eli Sariah
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:28:32 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Such entitlement.
OP is simply adorable.
Entitlement? How you figure? I am a paying customer. I posted my OPINION on a DISCUSSION FORUM. Entitlement implies receiving something for nothing. I pay for this subscription just the same as you. I simply voiced an opinion on a discussion forum.. just as you have Are you not then, entitled, by your very own definition? Oh .. i'm sorry. You're a Goon. Answered my own question...
I think they meant in the sense that, and this is the way i see it at least, your subscription is to play the game, they do not have to talk to you, they don't even have to reply to you, you are paying for the service of using there servers for their game, if you pay for the 6 month membership at Wet "n" Wild, they don't have to tell you a thing, so why would you think this would be any different? Your not a share holder, or a member of staff, or a EVE personality, or a news group or advertisement person, if you don't like it then don't complain, just go, but jsut so you know, this part:
Quote:I am a paying customer. I posted my OPINION on a DISCUSSION FORUM.
Doesn't mean anything.. You are paying for there server to play their game, show me where in their agreement to you with you accepted when you started it states that they will tell you anything? And where it says they will provide you with what you ask for? And where it states that you are entitlement to any such in formation? It doesn't i ahve checked, in fact, the forum is something they offer free of charge technically, they don't have to provide that to us, the customers at all.
And on the notes of Goons, i have actually had good run ins with them, even know a few IRL, so yeah, your expecting some respect and you have the 'right' to say what you want without a backslap, even though your the one sitting there insulting people for having the same rights you claim to have, so seriously man, quit it, im only new and people like you annoy the hell out of me.
As for your original post, no, EVE is not dying, i have gotten 6 of my friends into it, and we are currently getting both my friends in the army, and my entire fire department on, that is around 50 people, from me and my mate alone, ill say about 20 will become full on players, there is a reason EVE Online still runs, and still have FREE updates and great servers, so yeah.
So in summary, grow up, shut up, talk to friends, get them involved, don't be a b***h, grow a pair, learn to not insult the people you claiming to be a great customer of, and play the game, get people involved, and learn to take a hit if your going to throw them, oh, and stop being so entitled, please? You remind me of the kids in my brigade
P.s. If you are going to post on CCP's forum for EVE Online, don't be a half wit and insult CCP, kinda against the rules, so yeah.. Haha!
"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:45:15 -
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Ragnar D IX wrote:so my thread was summarily closed, with this final post by ccl:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
"I have actually lost count of the number of Eve is dying threads there are. If anyone out there knows the actual number I would like to know it. Thanks!
Closed for redundancy."
My response.. if my thread wasn't closed prematurely by CCP is: well .. YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS. And, you don't make them public because it is proprietary information.
YOU TELL US. Instead of summarily closing threads being snarky with your long-standing members.. how about you release your numbers? How many new accounts are being generated? How many of those new accounts are likely alt accounts of existing players? How about you NOT be snarky and glib in your responses to legitimate concerns regarding our sandbox?
Just because you are the best thing around at the moment doesn't give you license to abuse your membership....
EvE is dying since 2003. I started 2003 and had 4 breaks so far. EvE is the only MMO, i know that is worth playing it. I came back in December and had 8 billion on me. I brought skills and stuff for 2 billions round. EvE is not an MMO like WOW, when you quit you lose connect to the rest of the player base. EVE also has offline content thats the skills. - An no, EvE is not dying in anyway.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1081
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:45:41 -
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Guys! I am amazing! I discovered something! There is this thing, right? It is sort of wooden. Well actually, it is a slice of a log. So, anyway, like I put a stick through the middle and it rolls around. I want to call it a wheel. Aren't I clever? Now this wheel it is not very good because I cut it from a pine tree and I totally blame forestry department for not planting the mahogany trees where I wanted to cut trees! HOW DARE THEY DO THAT?! FREAKING GREENIES?!
Listen! LISTEN! I have an opinion about this! What you say doesn't matter! I HAVE THIS UNIQUE IDEA and PERSPECTVE!!! Mahogany trees much be planted over here so I can make better wood wheels!
What do you mean you have metal alloy wheels with rubber tires?! SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO MY OPINION!!! IT MATTERS!!! I MATTER!!! FFS!!!1! I AM SPEHAL!!1!
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Eli Sariah
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:49:17 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Guys! I am amazing! I discovered something! There is this thing, right? It is sort of wooden. Well actually, it is a slice of a log. So, anyway, like I put a stick through the middle and it rolls around. I want to call it a wheel. Aren't I clever? Now this wheel it is not very good because I cut it from a pine tree and I totally blame forestry department for not planting the mahogany trees where I wanted to cut trees! HOW DARE THEY DO THAT?! FREAKING GREENIES?! Listen! LISTEN! I have an opinion about this! What you say doesn't matter! I HAVE THIS UNIQUE IDEA and PERSPECTVE!!! Mahogany trees much be planted over here so I can make better wood wheels! What do you mean you have metal alloy wheels with rubber tires?! SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO MY OPINION!!! IT MATTERS!!! I MATTER!!! FFS!!!1! I AM SPEHAL!!1!
So basically OP, shut up, build a bridge, and realise your not a special snow flake? If so i like it :D
P.s. Jenshae Chiroptera awesome response, i am laughing at my desk while my co-workers look at me funny :P
"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
222
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:51:17 -
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ccp are trying to force everyone into smaller ships again and turning everything into mini games I myself have 23b tied into cap ship skills I wont get to use past the test server now
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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