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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:40:51 -
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SoulLess Zealot wrote:First off not everyone has j/f alts bud .. how
personal jf alts are like a basic requirement to actually be a person in this game |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:42:14 -
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also if you are that destitute after engaging in fw missions, just drop fw and duckwalk out of lowsec with your stuff |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:42:19 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Veskrashen wrote:Sougiro Seta wrote:All the goonhaters are realizing that, what it's probably going to be annoying for the big boys, is gonna ruin the game experience of all those null inhabitants you don't hate? Not really. If they can't deal with GewnTrolls then they don't deserve their space either. If GewnTrolls decide to descend upon their space like locusts to Trololololol them for a week, they've got a bazillion tools at their disposal they can use during their prime time to render them absolutely and completely irrelevant. If they're not good enough to do that, then they don't deserve to keep their space. Are you going to be on guard 4 hours a day, every day, waiting at your keyboard to get an alliance mail to say your sov structures in system xyz and 10 others are under attack? Sounds like a job, doesn't sound like fun. Doesn't sound like fleet pvp, gang pvp or eve ~elite~ pvp. It will be annoying and you know it, you're just seeing the alliances of the people making sense and like a bunch of others just being obstinate because you can't bring yourself to agree with a grr gon. Half or more of the people commenting in this thread will never hold sov, will never even try to hold sov and don't care about sov. They're the same people who cheered on space aids without actually thinking it through, stating how it would change how the game works, only to be faced several months later that it did almost the complete opposite of the stated changes.
Just live in the system. So you dont have to wait for the mail. If the system has no one in it during your prime time then it is obviously vulnerable.
The goal as stated was to determine the "military dominance of grid" with this sov laser thingy. No one is present in grid - one side that IS present dominates.
Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK!
GOT the bastard.
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:43:01 -
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it is like you are incapable of thought
actually considering your opinions on sov i guess this is a non-surprise in retrospect |
SoulLess Zealot
IceBox Inc. Lasers Are Magic
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:43:04 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:SoulLess Zealot wrote:First off not everyone has j/f alts bud .. how personal jf alts are like a basic requirement to actually be a person in this game
Well i guess when you live in null and rat all day you would have the isk to buy one |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:44:51 -
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SoulLess Zealot wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:SoulLess Zealot wrote:First off not everyone has j/f alts bud .. how personal jf alts are like a basic requirement to actually be a person in this game Well i guess when you live in null and rat all day you would have the isk to buy one lookit this guy with orbit beacons for LP and FW missions trying to claim the carebear angle |
Daimus Daranius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:46:11 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Daimus Daranius wrote:even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
his idea was garbage fyi and would not work and still doesn't address that dealing with trollceptors is going to be boring, tedious, uninteresting, and just reinventing the problem of "weaponized boredom"
Is it going to be more boring than the current structure grind? And if attackers are willing to devote more time, resources and commitment than defenders then I think they deserve the system.
Amarr Victor!
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Dras Malar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:47:09 -
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Daimus Daranius wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Daimus Daranius wrote:even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
his idea was garbage fyi and would not work and still doesn't address that dealing with trollceptors is going to be boring, tedious, uninteresting, and just reinventing the problem of "weaponized boredom" Is it going to be more boring than the current structure grind? And if attackers are willing to devote more time, resources and commitment than defenders then I think they deserve the system.
Great, then everyone will deserve every system everywhere. |
SoulLess Zealot
IceBox Inc. Lasers Are Magic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:47:59 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:SoulLess Zealot wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:SoulLess Zealot wrote:First off not everyone has j/f alts bud .. how personal jf alts are like a basic requirement to actually be a person in this game Well i guess when you live in null and rat all day you would have the isk to buy one lookit this guy with orbit beacons for LP and FW missions trying to claim the carebear angle
Lol in four posts you havent added anything relevant to the conversation |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:49:57 -
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SoulLess Zealot wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: lookit this guy with orbit beacons for LP and FW missions trying to claim the carebear angle
Lol in four posts you havent added anything relevant to the conversation aaand complaining about posting
another poster put in his place |
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:51:50 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Veskrashen wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:Are you going to be on guard 4 hours a day, every day, waiting at your keyboard to get an alliance mail to say your sov structures in system xyz and 10 others are under attack? Sounds like a job, doesn't sound like fun. Doesn't sound like fleet pvp, gang pvp or eve ~elite~ pvp. It will be annoying and you know it, you're just seeing the alliances of the people making sense and like a bunch of others just being obstinate because you can't bring yourself to agree with a grr gon. Hi. Faction Warfare pilot here. I logged in every day for months and fought constantly because TEST was in CalMil, stationed in Innia, right next to our bastion of Fortress Eha. We killed thousands of ships month in and month out just to hold that one system - and because we undocked, fought, and forced them to bash their heads against the wall... Eha never fell. The fact that you don't have nearly the same level of pride or determination is not my failing, nor that of my alliance. It does, however, speak volumes about you and yours. The fact that you seem to feel that your experience with EHP+timer based Sov objectives somehow invalidates my extensive experience with distributed objective timer based capture mechanics with cumulative impact on system control is... laughable. Fozziesov has FAR more in common with current FW system control mechanics than with anything previously seen in nullsec. Perhaps you all should be paying more attention to the folks who have been living, thriving, and winning under those mechanics for some time now. Or, yanno, fail to adapt and whine on the forums. Up to you I suppose. Not to bash on your experience, but it's just one (ok, handful) of systems. And the talk here is about hundreds. Sounds like a nice step up from the lowsec little leagues?
SoulLess Zealot wrote:Lol in four posts you havent added anything relevant to the conversation Four? I gave up counting after the first hundred. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:52:28 -
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Daimus Daranius wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Daimus Daranius wrote:even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
his idea was garbage fyi and would not work and still doesn't address that dealing with trollceptors is going to be boring, tedious, uninteresting, and just reinventing the problem of "weaponized boredom" Is it going to be more boring than the current structure grind? And if attackers are willing to devote more time, resources and commitment than defenders then I think they deserve the system.
yeah. I'd actually honestly grind structures. once i'm at the structure i can be mostly afk and avoid the boring part entirely. this new system pretty much forces you to endure the bordom for 4 hours.
so seriously, i would rather shoot structures than chase interceptors around for 4 hours a day.
except the entire point of trollceptors is to not devote resources or commitment to it, yet defenders are forced to do it. which is why it's boring, defenders are doing something that's going to result in minimal interaction and/or content for anyone.
as some one who doesn't currently participate in sov - this new system does absolutely nothing to make me want to change that. between the "prime time" window mechanic, and the fact that during that prime time you're going to be chasing ships designed to not get caught... i could think of many, many other things i'd rather be doing. shooting structures makes it on to that list. |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:55:57 -
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I am trying to figure out what it is that goons are trying to hide by distracting everyone with trollceptor boogieman campaign.
I know they have at least handful of pilots with fistful of braincells to rub together so I find it exceptionally hard to believe that they are genuinely worried about "trollceptor". This must be some kind of clever campaign to keep everyone focused on that non-issue.
If I would want to harass deep null systems I would personally pick something more suitable than a interceptor for that. A recon ship or T3, flex my cyno net and blops alts. Bring some friends along for the ride capable of killing "too small" response forces, etc.
Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK!
GOT the bastard.
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:58:57 -
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Carniflex wrote:I am trying to figure out what it is that goons are trying to hide by distracting everyone with trollceptor boogieman campaign.
I know they have at least handful of pilots with fistful of braincells to rub together so I find it exceptionally hard to believe that they are genuinely worried about "trollceptor". This must be some kind of clever campaign to keep everyone focused on that non-issue.
If I would want to harass deep null systems I would personally pick something more suitable than a interceptor for that. A recon ship or T3, flex my cyno net and blops alts. Bring some friends along for the ride capable of killing "too small" response forces, etc. The same thought had struck me. I thought they were supposed to be good at this political metagaming so I've been looking for the hidden angles that they're hoping to get swept under the rug.
Then I look at the quality of the opposition that's been coming to the forums under their banner and I just think they can't be bothered to try anymore.
Also in addition to your list there's WH's behind the lines - I can see bomber's bar having a field-day with their Thera staging - if they can be bothered to contest sov that is. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:00:59 -
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Carniflex wrote: If I would want to harass deep null systems I would personally pick something more suitable than a interceptor for that. A recon ship or T3, flex my cyno net and blops alts. Bring some friends along for the ride capable of killing "too small" response forces, etc.
pretty sure moa has no pilots willing to field that much isk, given the candor of their hotdrops over the last 6 months
also that comp is fine to me, it can be caught and executed |
Dras Malar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:00:59 -
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Daimus Daranius wrote:The amount of goon tears in this thread is causing a flood of biblical proportions, and their reactions are silly even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
If cloaking modules didn't exist today and were about to be introduced in the next update then Goons would be now crying about how unkillable and uncounterable afk cloakers will be.
Of course, large nullsec blocks will lose some sov under the new system, but that's a step in the right direction, since blue donut is bad for EVE.
Carniflex wrote:I am trying to figure out what it is that goons are trying to hide by distracting everyone with trollceptor boogieman campaign.
Goons hate this idea - therefore, it must be good. It couldn't possibly be that people who actually have nullsec sovereignty might be concerned about game mechanics regarding nullsec sovereignty in general. You think it won't be Goons who will be using the trollceptor? I know I'll be getting in one immediately.
If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? |
Zazad Antollare
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:02:30 -
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i only speak for my self as a null sec player, being in goonswarm has nothing to do with my opinion |
Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:05:30 -
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Dras Malar wrote:If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? I was never interested in playing n+1 supercap battles to contest sov but the upcoming changes make me very interested. So yeah I guess I do have intentions now, I guess I get to stay in the thread yay :) |
Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:06:41 -
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SOV laser shares similar mechanic to Cynosural Field Generator?
Control the gird - cos your "F1 for SOV" ships ain't moving. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:07:15 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Dras Malar wrote:If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? I was never interested in playing n+1 supercap battles to contest sov but the upcoming changes make me very interested. So yeah I guess I do have intentions now, I guess I get to stay in the thread yay :) how many more SOE missions will you need to grind before you are ready for sov |
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:08:58 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Dras Malar wrote:If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? I was never interested in playing n+1 supercap battles to contest sov but the upcoming changes make me very interested. So yeah I guess I do have intentions now, I guess I get to stay in the thread yay :) how many more SOE missions will you need to grind before you are ready for sov Yet again showing your ignorance. PS salvages missions not grind them...and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither.
Was that useless post 189?
edit: Tell you what, I'll drop corp to prevent that distracting you from the points in hand. |
Daimus Daranius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:13:14 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Daimus Daranius wrote:even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
his idea was garbage fyi and would not work
Why? Because damps can't actually kill a trollceptor? A trollceptor pilot that's going to be damped everytime he activates his sov laser is gonna get bored very quickly. And even though I wouldn't mind to see an additional penalty put on Entosis link (like +20% addition to ship's mass), I have a feeling that you'll be still unhappy and say something like "that's still no good since they'll just bring more ceptors than we can catch". Despite all your whine about trollceptors I think sov lasers will be much more commonly put on T3 cruisers.
Amarr Victor!
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:15:56 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Dras Malar wrote:If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? I was never interested in playing n+1 supercap battles to contest sov but the upcoming changes make me very interested. So yeah I guess I do have intentions now, I guess I get to stay in the thread yay :) how many more SOE missions will you need to grind before you are ready for sov Yet again showing your ignorance. PS salvages missions not grind them...and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither. Was that useless post 189? edit: Tell you what, I'll drop corp to prevent that distracting you from the points in hand. I don't think it's out of line to say that, as a player who willingly admits to spending his time salvaging mission sites in empire, your opinions on sov are fairly irrelevant.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:17:00 -
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Daimus Daranius wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Daimus Daranius wrote:even when people like God's Apples are giving them exact fits that are perfect counter to trollceptors.
his idea was garbage fyi and would not work Why? Because damps can't actually kill a trollceptor? A trollceptor pilot that's going to be damped everytime he activates his sov laser is gonna get bored very quickly. And even though I wouldn't mind to see an additional penalty put on Entosis link (like +20% addition to ship's mass), I have a feeling that you'll be still unhappy and say something like "that's still no good since they'll just bring more ceptors than we can catch". Despite all your whine about trollceptors I think sov lasers will be much more commonly put on T3 cruisers.
you say that like chasing and damping the same inty for 4 hours is fun... |
Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:17:34 -
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Querns wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Dras Malar wrote:If you don't have sov, and you've never had sov, and you have no intention of having sov, or finding out what it means to get it or keep it, what are you even doing in this thread? I was never interested in playing n+1 supercap battles to contest sov but the upcoming changes make me very interested. So yeah I guess I do have intentions now, I guess I get to stay in the thread yay :) how many more SOE missions will you need to grind before you are ready for sov Yet again showing your ignorance. PS salvages missions not grind them...and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither. Was that useless post 189? edit: Tell you what, I'll drop corp to prevent that distracting you from the points in hand. I don't think it's out of line to say that, as a player who willingly admits to spending his time salvaging mission sites in empire, your opinions on sov are fairly irrelevant. "and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither."
Try training comprehension to V |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:18:19 -
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Eli Apol wrote:"and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither."
Try training comprehension to V Oh, I understood what you said just fine -- I just think you're a liar.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:19:43 -
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Querns wrote:Eli Apol wrote:"and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither."
Try training comprehension to V Oh, I understood what you said just fine -- I just think you're a liar. Feel free to check the freely available PS spreadsheet and see just how much salvaging I've done over the past year...one evening when I was bored and my mains were otherwise disposed. Let me fetch that link for you. sec
edit: linky - Feb 24th to Mar 2nd was the period in which I salvaged for about 2hrs and earned a paltry 30m :)
Now instead of attempting to attack the man, try and attack his points |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:23:02 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Querns wrote:Eli Apol wrote:"and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither."
Try training comprehension to V Oh, I understood what you said just fine -- I just think you're a liar. Feel free to check the freely available PS spreadsheet and see just how much salvaging I've done over the past year...one evening when I was bored and my mains were otherwise disposed. Let me fetch that link for you. sec You're sure taking a lot of time to prove you aren't irrelevant to the discussion. Why not, instead, do something to prove you are relevant?
I feel like posting on a highsec salvaging character is not doing you any favors here.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:25:26 -
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Querns wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Querns wrote:Eli Apol wrote:"and since I rarely ever use this toon except on the forums, I do neither."
Try training comprehension to V Oh, I understood what you said just fine -- I just think you're a liar. Feel free to check the freely available PS spreadsheet and see just how much salvaging I've done over the past year...one evening when I was bored and my mains were otherwise disposed. Let me fetch that link for you. sec You're sure taking a lot of time to prove you aren't irrelevant to the discussion. Why not, instead, do something to prove you are relevant? I feel like posting on a highsec salvaging character is not doing you any favors here. Many many alts post here, why not me, what've I done wrong? Argued my points? Pointed out inconsistencies in yours? Boohoo, #dealwithit |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:27:46 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Many many alts post here, why not me, what've I done wrong? Argued my points? Pointed out inconsistencies in yours? Boohoo, #dealwithit Putting aside the shockingly poor quality of your posting in this thread, it's always curious to me why people "post on alts" on eve-o, when posting on a character with real, demonstrable credibility is so much more powerful.
Why should CCP listen to a person in a highsec salvaging corp for opinions on sov?
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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