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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience CAStabouts
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:55:48 -
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So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.
'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'
T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.
Discuss. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:58:06 -
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Get a noctis, that's what it's for.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:13:06 -
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There are more than one or two choices of tools that are suitable to achieve the aim you have of salvaging a faction spawn wreck.
Instead of using a blunt tool for the job use one of the appropriate tools rather than asking the GMs for a skeleton key.
Priorities would put Tech II Salvage Drones near the bottom of the list for game improvements anyway.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Zura Namee
The Milkmen
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:40:39 -
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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.
'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'
T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.
Discuss.
A mobile depot and salvager in the cargo hold would have saved you many tears. Or just use a ship with a utility high. Or make a bookmark and go get an appropriate ship. Long story short, there's a bunch of options that are far better than watching for half an hour as a terrible drone fails to do anything. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2015.03.10 14:31:33 -
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I hate to be "that guy", but...
...search bar? Top right? Ring a bell?
And, as others have said, the more dedicated alternatives need to remain as dominate ones in comparison to any T2 Salvage drone proposal. Let's face it, CCP will not likely go with something that overshadows the Noctis and Salvagers. T2 salvagers could have much better tank or be a bit faster for instance, but something like buffing the access difficulty multiplier is not a solid suggestion. |
Tabyll Altol
Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2015.03.10 15:22:31 -
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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.
'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'
T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.
Discuss.
Mmh if CCP would make a ship for that i would be a cov ops frig or called noctis. But nah lets make this more automatic. Just use a salvager and stop whining about it.
No T2 Salvage drones needed.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 15:27:00 -
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My 5x Salvage drones sometime work faster than my t2 salvaging module... Just saying |
Madd Adda
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Posted - 2015.03.10 19:35:39 -
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I wouldn't ask for t2 salvage drones, I would ask for them to change the behavior of present salvage drones to ignore faction and other things they can't salvage.
Carebear extraordinaire
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nVus Antollare
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:29:10 -
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Hull repair drones were rolled after salvage drones, right? Even they've got TII versions and Heavies. But like most things, you didn't know you need them until you need them and don't have them. |
Paul1
Tiny Titans
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:24:09 -
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Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected. I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not? |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:51:27 -
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salvage drones are just their to supplement your salvaging they aren't meant to be the dedicated system to do it
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3?
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:48:52 -
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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:Discuss. I'd be content with medium salvage drones that could simultaneously salvage two wrecks with shorter cycle times.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1947
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Posted - 2015.03.11 01:53:37 -
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Have you trained Salvage Drones to V? Because I am pretty sure you haven't or they would have succeeded. |
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience CAStabouts
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:36:20 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:salvage drones are just their to supplement your salvaging they aren't meant to be the dedicated system to do it
Now THAT is new to me! Who said that please?! (inb4/ 'Me.')
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Daimus Daranius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:05:11 -
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I just made a post in another thread about skills that are not worth training to V no matter how many SP you have, but forgot to mention Salvage Drone Operation which might even deserve to have a top spot on that list. Introducing T2 Salvage Drones might change that, though. Though they would still be near-worthless.
Amarr Victor!
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:51:53 -
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Salvage drones have already replaced salvagers for a lot of pilots. Salvage ships need more reasons, not less.
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Nothing Interesting
Nothing Interesting Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.16 10:41:43 -
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Paul1 wrote:Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected. I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not?
This is the most important thing mentioned in this thread. That tick box is a joke. Even if i have it ticked it, unless i dont order my combat drones manually to attack the same target, after some time they will split and attack different target. I get it that some bugs just remain, but why the **** do salvage drones ALWAYS focus the same target, doesnt matter if focus fire is ticked or not ...
I dont mind that salvage drones have worse access chance, as you should be rewarded for actively salvaging and not just semi-aft, like with drones. But wth is with the focus fire function, it doesnt work at all. |
Janeway84
Def Squadron Pride Before Fall
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:42:41 -
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Get imicus with salvage rigs, then t2 salvagers speed back to bookmark and clean the place up? Noctis only bonus is having more range for tractors. |
Vanadium1
Anger of the Darkness Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:52:09 -
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Nothing Interesting wrote:Paul1 wrote:Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected. I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not? This is the most important thing mentioned in this thread. That tick box is a joke. Even if i have it ticked it, unless i dont order my combat drones manually to attack the same target, after some time they will split and attack different target. I get it that some bugs just remain, but why the **** do salvage drones ALWAYS focus the same target, doesnt matter if focus fire is ticked or not ... I dont mind that salvage drones have worse access chance, as you should be rewarded for actively salvaging and not just semi-aft, like with drones. But wth is with the focus fire function, it doesnt work at all. I guess that tick box doesn't affect salvage drones at all. But they DO NOT always target the same target. As far as I know they target the nearest wreck to your ship. So when I begin to fly around wrecks the drones begin to target different ones. |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:54:58 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:There are more than one or two choices of tools that are suitable to achieve the aim you have of salvaging a faction spawn wreck.
Instead of using a blunt tool for the job use one of the appropriate tools rather than asking the GMs for a skeleton key.
Priorities would put Tech II Salvage Drones near the bottom of the list for game improvements anyway. we need tech 2, faction, deadspace, and officer variants of ALL modules that do not currently possess them. on the DED and Officer mods, this would actually be an improvement, as officer/deadspace mods would drop just as often as now, but less often of specific ones due to a larger loot table, meaning prices/value go up again, as well as having more expensive fail-fits getting ganked in nullsec. |
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Nothing Interesting
Nothing Interesting Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.16 15:20:48 -
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Vanadium1 wrote:Nothing Interesting wrote:Paul1 wrote:Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected. I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not? This is the most important thing mentioned in this thread. That tick box is a joke. Even if i have it ticked it, unless i dont order my combat drones manually to attack the same target, after some time they will split and attack different target. I get it that some bugs just remain, but why the **** do salvage drones ALWAYS focus the same target, doesnt matter if focus fire is ticked or not ... I dont mind that salvage drones have worse access chance, as you should be rewarded for actively salvaging and not just semi-aft, like with drones. But wth is with the focus fire function, it doesnt work at all. I guess that tick box doesn't affect salvage drones at all. But they DO NOT always target the same target. As far as I know they target the nearest wreck to your ship. So when I begin to fly around wrecks the drones begin to target different ones.
You are right that it is not always, as i have tested today, but from the ideal case (1 drone on 1 wreck) is the reality quite far away (best i have observed was 3 drones on one wreck and another one on second wreck). You also need quite a fast ship, so that the closest wreck changes and a lot of wrecks. Quite a few conditions for something that should work automatically. |
Kabark
Schilden
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Posted - 2015.03.16 15:54:52 -
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Running a Golem with 2 T2 salvagers and 5 salvage drones at level 4, I can burn through L4s as fast as my tractors can pull in wrecks. However, I don't see anything wrong with adding T2 salvage drones. Bump the bandwidth up to 10 and base salvage chance to 5%. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2015.03.16 19:18:27 -
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yes they are over due. a depot and another mod also taxes up excess room when your doing deep space exploration. ive almost had to leave behind parts of the ship for some things due to the limited hold and the multirole it is required todo.
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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