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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:12:00 -
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hi all i would just like to say that amarr as it stands is one of the best races ingame... and i dont care what your crap argument is...
lasers are extremly powerful as they are meaning they dont need a damage bonus... and ship with less than 3 meds isnt designed to solo and you have secondary damage... called drones... just like gallente... shuv that in ur pie hole u whining nubbies
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:14:00 -
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You need to stop trolling.
This thread has no content, and im sure 99.9% of the people surfing the boards dont care about your pointless opinion.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:15:00 -
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still it makes more sense than a 94 page whine thread.
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho still it makes more sense than a 94 page whine thread.
QFT
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho still it makes more sense than a 94 page whine thread.
QFT
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you are an amarr whiner.. my post evaluates your 94 page whine... it is there fore useful...
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:17:00 -
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He has no facts or arguement just opinion. If your going to argue something state a fact or two or at least use some reasoning. _________________________________________
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:17:00 -
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*Chooo* *Chooo*
Here comes the clue train....... Last stop is you! :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Naldo
Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:17:00 -
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Ok...
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:19:00 -
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amarr does not need a boost.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: XGS Crimson on 17/10/2006 11:20:09 i have proof my character in a bthron can be beaten by a geddon solo... and im not a noob. out tanked... out damaged... i have lvl 5 resists lvl 5 gunnerys lvl 5 caps... and i can still be beaten... full t2 armament. close range within my optimal
its all about what you know about your race.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:21:00 -
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Still have no arguement. Just because someone with a crappy Bthron setup loses to someone like me ina geddon doesn't mean you have an arguement. _________________________________________
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson Edited by: XGS Crimson on 17/10/2006 11:20:09 i have proof my character in a bthron can be beaten by a geddon solo... and im not a noob. out tanked... out damaged... i have lvl 5 resists lvl 5 gunnerys lvl 5 caps... and i can still be beaten... full t2 armament. close range within my optimal
its all about what you know about your race.
I have proof that a noobship can blow up a Titan. Here is a pic of me flying a noobship inside a 2 meter wide vent inside the Titan, thus blowing it up. No I dont have a killmail or fraps or anything else. Just beleive the words that are comming out of my mouth! --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:26:00 -
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i dont have a crappy bthron setup.
7 ion II webber scrammer mwd cap booster. 1600mm tungsten 1 t2 repper 3 hardners 2 nanos (adaptive t2)
resists=
85 70 87 85
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: XGS Crimson Edited by: XGS Crimson on 17/10/2006 11:20:09 i have proof my character in a bthron can be beaten by a geddon solo... and im not a noob. out tanked... out damaged... i have lvl 5 resists lvl 5 gunnerys lvl 5 caps... and i can still be beaten... full t2 armament. close range within my optimal
its all about what you know about your race.
I have proof that a noobship can blow up a Titan. Here is a pic of me flying a noobship inside a 2 meter wide vent inside the Titan, thus blowing it up. No I dont have a killmail or fraps or anything else. Just beleive the words that are comming out of my mouth!
note that you are amarr? they dont need a boost... explain in words what is wrong with ur race that isnt a design defect ( and by that i mean isnt how its ment to be)
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:31:00 -
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Low CPU makes it hard to fit most ships. Lasers have awful damage vs armor and most races in EVE armor tank ships. _________________________________________
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson i dont have a crappy bthron setup.
7 ion II webber scrammer mwd cap booster. 1600mm tungsten 1 t2 repper 3 hardners 2 nanos (adaptive t2)
resists=
85 70 87 85
LMAO
Sorry but you're such a noob, - first of all GANK > TANK in pvp in EVE! - second bthron without dmg mods is a crime - 3rd fit neutrons, bthron is meant to be a gank ship (kill before getting killed) - last but not least, 5 hardners? wtf dude? didnt you hear about something called "stacking penalty" at least fit a dmg control in there somewhere
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:32:00 -
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but either way this thread isnt about me its about the fact that amarr has no real issues... they are fine how they are
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:32:00 -
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^^ ty for the advice
was wondering why i wasnt winning
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:34:00 -
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Still havent argued a point, just opinion _________________________________________
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 17/10/2006 11:36:07
Originally by: XGS Crimson i dont have a crappy bthron setup.
7 ion II webber scrammer mwd cap booster. 1600mm tungsten 1 t2 repper 3 hardners 2 nanos (adaptive t2)
resists=
85 70 87 85
You say you dont have a crappy setup - and you show us this monstrocity. My God, there are so many things wrong with it... I dont know where to start. Please check the ship fitout section for setups. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Low CPU makes it hard to fit most ships. Lasers have awful damage vs armor and most races in EVE armor tank ships.
Correct, the problem is ppl counter arguement high EM resistance on armor with high EXP resistance on shields, but forget that ships that do primarily EXP dmg (minmatar mainly, caldari and gallente to some extend) also have the simple ability to change ammo (field other drones) and do another dmg type. Now where does the Amarr race (I'm talking about lasers here) have this option of chosing armor dmging ammo when needed? They dont.
Before T2 ammo came out I was still using lasers and was hoping for explosive crystals with T2 ammo (they even had them in the test-database), then on top of no explosive crystals we got the EANM IIs + compensation skills dilema which made lasers even worse.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Still havent argued a point, just opinion
can i please have your point? because you seem to argue against my "opinion".
opinion and point are very much the same.
what ive read so far is that amarr doesnt have enough medium slots to mount all the stuff needed for solo and not enough pg to fit the full biggest baddest guns on their ships... but i see this problem with gallente too. caldari dont usualy have fitting issues and minmitar has some but not as many.
so in the case of lets say... the apoc what is wrong with that ship as it stands?
8 4 7
the same as the gallente megathron
the guns DONT need a damage/rof/tracking mod because they are powerful enough and accurate as they are... leading onto the the bonus that the apoc has... 25% cap boost and 50% cap reduction to large laser weapons. With these bonuses you will almost never run out of capacitor.
4 mediums means that you have exactly the same as the gallente megathron which has no solo fitting issues as it is.
7 lows means you can mount a powerful tank/gank kitting.
the huge quantity of pg means you can arm a full rack of tachyons with room to fit a full tank with. with 1 extra high slot. the same as the megathron.
please explain what is wrong with this ship?
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: Zaethiel Low CPU makes it hard to fit most ships. Lasers have awful damage vs armor and most races in EVE armor tank ships.
Correct, the problem is ppl counter arguement high EM resistance on armor with high EXP resistance on shields, but forget that ships that do primarily EXP dmg (minmatar mainly, caldari and gallente to some extend) also have the simple ability to change ammo (field other drones) and do another dmg type. Now where does the Amarr race (I'm talking about lasers here) have this option of chosing armor dmging ammo when needed? They dont.
Before T2 ammo came out I was still using lasers and was hoping for explosive crystals with T2 ammo (they even had them in the test-database), then on top of no explosive crystals we got the EANM IIs + compensation skills dilema which made lasers even worse.
gallente doesnt have the option of switching damage types... unless you mean drones?
and on that point i add this.
geddon-175m3 (i think lol sry cant remember) apoc-75m3(i think cant remember) arbi-75m3 +bonus maller-25m3 recons-75m3 zealot-does not need drones its amazingly powerful commandships-can tank all day
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:47:00 -
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and if you are going to say that you think its unfair having to train a secondary weapon... well gallente has to do the same.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: XGS Crimson on 17/10/2006 11:49:45 if amarr deserves exp crystals then gallente deserves em/exp ammo too.
if you mention the fact that your frigates dont have drone space.. well in a frigate fight 1 drone will not make the differnce between winning and losing especialy since amarr has the punisher( best frig in the game in my opinion for solo- with tank guns and 2 meds)
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson geddon-175m3 (i think lol sry cant remember) apoc-75m3(i think cant remember) arbi-75m3 +bonus maller-25m3 recons-75m3 zealot-does not need drones its amazingly powerful commandships-can tank all day
Shows how well you're informed..
Armageddon: 125m¦ Maller: 0m¦
Forsch Defender of the empire
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson and if you are going to say that you think its unfair having to train a secondary weapon... well gallente has to do the same.
Would love to train a secondary weapon but there isn't really one. Missiles and drones only appear very sparse on Amarrian vessels. Now if smartbombs were overhauled and made Amarr's 2nd weapon system, that would be another story. Could imagine the Apoc being well suited for such a task.
Forsch Defender of the empire
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zwerg
Caldari mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:52:00 -
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you guys are so full of s**t! lol
XGS is probably a pirate in an amar region who likes to blow up the "Dont need a boost" ships.
1st: Amarr needs boost, read the amarr whine thread before youre WhInInG about it! 2nd: Your thread is totally useless, what you wanna say?! Your noob bthron with 5 hardeners [ lol ] got blown up by a geddon. Ohhhhhhhhhh Cry me a river 3rd: There is one big attitude that the guys above have which you do NOT have.
Read before Post FTW!
Greetings to ma homeys from tux, please delete this thread! otherwise his alts will join posting to higher is self-confidence!
Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!!
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 17/10/2006 11:53:42 edit, this messageboard is a hellspawn
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:53:00 -
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meh either way you have drones just like us.
lasers make up for their lack of damage types with the sheer damageoutput they do+ the fact they have no reload meaning full cargo of cap boosters.
if you got exp crystals all that would happen is people would exchange 1 em resist for 1 exp resist... simple as that.
no matter what happens to ships in this game there will always be somone wanting more of their ship than it gives. at current i would really like my dominix to be able to fit 6 heavy nos just to give it that extra kick but its fine how it is.
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