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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.03 14:01:00 -
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Pandorath wrote:It's not risk free pvp, its griefing. You know that griefing isn't allowed in EVE and will get you banned, right?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1852
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:03:00 -
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Pandorath wrote:Griefing in eve is allowed and is not bannable. Incorrect on both accounts. Your problem is that you have brought some irrelevant notion of GÇ£griefingGÇ¥ in from some other silly game that has nothing to do with EVE.
So, indeed, L2EVE: it's not what you think it is. Griefing gets you banned around here.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.04 14:43:00 -
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Pandorath wrote:Ninja salvaging, bumping, suicide ganking, awoxing, reverse awoxing, infiltration, stealing, pirating, scamming, wardecking for ransom, ransoming ships and not honoring it... I thought this was related to the word griefing no? Nope. None of that is griefing GÇö it's all just various versions of dastardliness and PvP.
All of that is allowed in EVE; griefing is not. Like I said, the problem is that you have brought some irrelevant notion of GÇ£griefingGÇ¥ in from some other silly game that has nothing to do with EVE which leads you to misidentify legitimate PvP as griefing. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.05 04:50:00 -
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Marchland wrote:Using the SMA like any other SMA (carrier, etc.) = bug. GǪexcept that you can still use the Orca's SMA just like carrier's SMA.
The only difference is that you can't get a carrier into highsec where the restrictions on the Orca's SMA comes into play (and where trying to use a left-behind carrier in a similar manner would get you tossed out of highsec). So the question is: have you tried doing the same with a highsec carrier? Have you explored how the Orca works in low/nullsec? Have you tested to make sure that the Orca is indeed different? If so, maybe it's the carrier's SMA that's bugged. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1899
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Posted - 2011.12.05 07:28:00 -
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Marchland wrote:Engaging in combat with a carrier in range of you on a station and your target returning fire does not bar you from switching or swapping ships OUT of the carrier, which used to be the case with the Orca. You can indeed still do this with a carrier in low sec and in an Orca in low-sec, but not in high sec. My main's corp locks down a low-sec pocket in Sinq where we did indeed test (in 40 AU safes) the ship swapping mechanic in both a carrier and an Orca; this nerf is a direct slap in the face to ninja's use of the mechanic. There is nothing to say for it other than that. So what you're saying is that there is no difference between the Orca's SMA and the carrier's; there is no bug. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1912
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:33:00 -
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Marchland wrote:They are saying swapping was a bug, which you CAN do with a carrier, but now you CAN'T do with an Orca. But you just that that you can do it in an Orca.
So which one is it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1934
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Posted - 2011.12.06 08:26:00 -
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Marchland wrote:You can't do it in high sec, which you could before. So how does that differ from the SMA on a carrier? You're missing a crucial part in your tests if you want to demonstrate that there's something odd going on.
BuzzyBeagle wrote:i lulled hard at this misinformed Bear that is so fluffy in her down-pillow covered computer chair she cannot see past her rose colored glasses to see whats going on in the real world.
I approve and note character name as a perfect target of opportunity. Don't be so hard on Pandorath GÇö it's a common mistake for people to make if they don't understand how EVE works. The classification of GÇ£griefingGÇ¥ in EVE differs so much from pretty much every other game that it throws a lot of people, and then they get confused about what is allowed and what isn't. At the end of the day, though, griefing isn't allowed in EVE, just like in pretty much all other games, and engaging in it will get you banned. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1991
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Posted - 2011.12.09 18:26:00 -
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m0cking bird wrote:AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE ALL HIGH SEC AGGRESSION TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME entirely. Sure. But as a consequence, none of the following things will be allowed either:
-+ You can obviously no longer lock any player ship. -+ You can no longer activate any kind of AoE weaponry or module. -+ You can no longer use the market, contracts or the trading window. -+ You can no longer access or manage POSes and their services. -+ You can no longer mine. -+ You can no longer shoot rats. -+ You can no longer open any kind of container in space. -+ You can no longer use the on-board scanner or scan probes. -+ You can no longer be in a fleet. -+ You can no longer use salvagers. -+ You can no longer access the industry interface. -+ You can no longer access player-sovereign systems. -+ You can no longer access free-floating permanent sites in space.
Deal?
Quote:High security space is suppose to be safe. No, it was never intended to be safe. It's just meant to be safer than low and null, and guess what? It is. A lot. Being safer still means it's a full-PvP area, though, and if you can't handle that, you shouldn't undock log in. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1991
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:33:00 -
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Beliar Gray wrote:Is that hypocrisy i smell. Maybe. m0cking bird wants to be competitive but doesn't want to actually compete because then he might lose GÇö whether you want to label that as hypocrisy or not is up to you.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1992
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Posted - 2011.12.09 20:03:00 -
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Zyella Stormborn wrote:So much anger over nerfing an exploit. just one problem: it wasn't an exploit. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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