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Kw1jybo
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:58:44 -
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So it fits in 1400 arty, and 425 autocannons. How does the same round fit in the guns differing by almost a full meter in diameter? |
Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:59:39 -
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1198
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:59:54 -
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Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction Gears Confederation
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:01:26 -
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With the same tech used in cargo containers.
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Super Stallion
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:09:00 -
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Because its bigger on the inside. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3234
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:10:13 -
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Jovian nanites.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:14:30 -
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Maybe ammo isn't really ammo until it is processed in the loading, hence why reloading can take a while, at least in comparison to focus crystals that take almost no time at all to load.
So ammo is more like the raw materials the guns use to construct the ammo they need. and L just indicates it is an amount required for the gun to fire once. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20566
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:17:43 -
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Magic.
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Zura Namee
The Milkmen
11
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:19:46 -
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Kw1jybo wrote:So it fits in 1400 arty, and 425 autocannons. How does the same round fit in the guns differing by almost a full meter in diameter?
The ammo is a semi-solid brick that's forced into the gun. Any excess is used to fuel our seemingly unlimited power supplies. |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
84
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:20:46 -
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they are compressed with winrar before loading to gun and when loading takes rpocessing its decompressed into full size.
in reality most likely ammunition is assembled during load |
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Antonia Iskarius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:10:39 -
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It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? |
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:24:24 -
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its not the size that counts
its how you chamber your round |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
595
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:28:53 -
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same way we bump without getting destroyed; matter "appears"
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
657
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:36:34 -
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The interior of artillery barrels contain a series of sphincters that clench down on the rounds so that they fit snugly. This contraction is also what enables the load to be spit out to greater distances. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:39:22 -
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Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work?
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
271
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:54:18 -
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My Google fu is stronk. I got it from some talk about tank guns.
A sabot projectile, is actually a sub-calibre projectile of any sort which can be fired through a larger-calibre bore gun by means of a surrounding sabot or bore adaptor made of wood/plastic/metal which brings the sub-calibre projectile up to that gun's actual bore diameter
sabot noun a wooden clog, or a shoe with a wooden sole, as formerly worn by the French peasantry.
There are for example sabot rounds for 12g shotguns - an alternative type of slugs to Brenekke for example. There used to be (may still be) commercially produced (Remington or Winchester) rounds for .308 and .30-06 hunting rifles which fire a .224 calibre bullet by means of a plastic sabot. Sabot rounds for artillery guns have been with us since the Napoleonic era. There are even sabot projectiles available for .22 airguns!
So, all of the tank rounds you talk of are sabot projectiles, but by the method of firing rather than projectile type. Most of these are actually kintic energy warheads.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6461
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:54:36 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This
Yes it could be very possible to have two systems with the same chamber diameters but vary the bore via the changeover of a sabot around the projectile. The average speed of a NATO 5.56 is 3000 to 3300 FPS but I have seen them used in .308 cal systems with a sabot and taking velocity up to 5000 (experimental load). The regular sized projectile would be half that speed. It's possible to purchase sabots for small arms and load them yourself. I have done it.
I have wondered about this for years, why there is one ammo size for three categories. In a way it's a good thing because if there were as many sizes as there were gun sizes ammo shopping would be a real pain in the ass.
Bet the entire cartridge is caseless too.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:15:37 -
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And EVE is real! (and educational today too.) |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3235
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:17:10 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8004
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:21:19 -
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I heard a rumor that the it's based on super secret Tardis technology.
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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
133
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:25:25 -
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I always thought they were put in sideways. 1400mm long, 425mm wide.
Amak Boma wrote:they are compressed with winrar before loading to gun and when loading takes rpocessing its decompressed into full size.
in reality most likely ammunition is assembled during load I think you mean Minrar. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2270
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:33:59 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space? Maybe the sabot is a small weak force field generated by the round. We have these in real life, they're using them to try to attempt fusion without burning through the holding container. Prevents the core from touching the sides of the container.
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Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:21:02 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Maybe the sabot is a small weak force field generated by the round. We have these in real life, they're using them to try to attempt fusion without burning through the holding container. Prevents the core from touching the sides of the container.
Could be even simpler than that, if the sabot was kinda like a reinforced/sprung umbrella that just expands when loaded with explosive charge in a larger calibre weapon.
wouldn't be much point overcomplicating a round of ammo or the cannon that fires it. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:26:56 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?
Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it.
Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc!
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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
0
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:29:10 -
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3236
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:32:40 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space? Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it. Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc! Then I want the option to remove the nested sabots before I use them in a ship with smaller guns. That way I can carry more ammo.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20571
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:17:58 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Vincent Athena wrote: Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?
Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it. Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc! Then I want the option to remove the nested sabots before I use them in a ship with smaller guns. That way I can carry more ammo.
They'll explode prematurely unless the procedure is done with the right equipment, and unfortunately that equipment is integrated into the weapons ammo feeder. All attempts to build a stand alone unit have failed as it is proprietary technology of the weapons original manufacturer and they refuse to release the schematics and specifications. To prevent reverse engineering, the housings have been outfitted with a nanobot derived self destruct mechanism which turns the sabot remover to constituent elements if tampered with.
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Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises Ad-Astra
307
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:49:44 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This
Just to take this and run with it, then why are Railguns measured in terms of barrel diameter? I'd must rather have them measured in kilowatts! |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3211
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:02:03 -
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once you explained that, try to explain square cannon barrels #goodLuck
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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
133
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Posted - 2015.03.20 01:11:10 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Antonia Iskarius wrote:It is called a sabot.
Guns, how do they work? This Just to take this and run with it, then why are Railguns measured in terms of barrel diameter? I'd must rather have them measured in kilowatts! Barrel diameter has a pretty significant influence field strength. |
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