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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2003.11.01 22:12:00 -
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...is a phrase that often appears in threads about manufacturing, more often than not accompanied with the word "muppet" or something similar. I find this strange. Try a "quick sell" on any mineral higher than trit, and you'll probably find that someone is buying for less than NPC cost. A lot of people will accept the offered price for their minerals. The result is that the buyer is getting minerals for less than NPC cost, without having to mine them. This is just one of several ways that producers can get minerals for less than NPC price. So why is it that selling stuff for less than the NPC mineral cost of production is such a bad thing?
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.11.01 22:39:00 -
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because they can immediately put up sell orders for npc price and get the minerals sold in a matter of days, thus they are not only reducing their own profit but also ruining the market.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.02 00:50:00 -
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You haven't explained why you think reducing their own profit is a bad thing. Some people aren't actually in business for the purpose of screwing as much money out of their customers as is humanly possible.
And it isn't ruining the market; this is how a free market is *supposed* to work. Prices find their own level, without any of this ridiculous "NPC price" rubbish.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.11.02 02:23:00 -
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Storeslem - I think the original poster meant that given you can pick up a lot of base minerals at way under npc prices then selling say a cruiser at under npc mineral cost may not be that dumb after all? I'm sure it is in most instances, but not all.
I'm sure there's loads of people that still hit the "quicksell" button at times, some of whom know they could get more and some who don't.....
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Myrmex
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Posted - 2003.11.02 03:23:00 -
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the lower the mineral the less the miner makes... and whats the more boring way of making money ? mining... so if price rise then miner need to mine less for more then u can mine yourself and make more money than doing anything else.. You know why the npc price exist ? because they based the npc production and ore yield based on these number alter them and then u can find new way of making money .....
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APENRAR
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Posted - 2003.11.03 03:31:00 -
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good show myr .....also as a imeral broker i offer buy orders at jsut below npc cost that way..i make a very little amount of hard cash as a courrier moving the mineralsfrom mined location to the npc market place as i have a huge indy this is easier for me httan most... and we all can make more money this way toodles.....
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Rhombus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rhombus on 03/11/2003 08:51:04 -> opened a special thread on this topic
Hi,
think your 'ideas' about the market are a little easy. Its not okay to say that 'prices find their own way'. This may relate to normal market but the EVE-market does not function like that.
Normally, throwing out goods at dumping prices is a strategy which also damages the profit of the one who does dump prizes. Consequently such action are very short-timed (and regulated by trade-laws).
Player don't bother about production-costs when they want to get rid of their loot, thereby destroying any logical scheme of economy.
To my mind the trade-option should be restricted to some special, maybe changing locations to become a real black market. This would push most of the deals into the EVE-market, where supply-and-demand priciples rule. If people really aren't interested in selling their goods profitable, they would at least open the door for players who want to specialize in trade-runs.
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