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Prince Damien
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:15:53 -
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From the Art Panel
Jackmaw
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:18:21 -
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This is one of the most egregious examples of power creep I have ever seen. I honestly do not know how CCP keeps getting away with such obvious, apparent power creep, where some things are simply direct improvements over others. It is simply unfair to those of us who own T2 destroyers that the T3 destroyers look so much better.
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One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:31:28 -
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So glad I fly Gallente ships.
\O/
Mr Epeen
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Katja Ziegler
Exploratory Service
0
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:37:42 -
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Man, it's going to be a long and miserable wait for the Hecate! |
Arla Sarain
356
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:53:15 -
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Look at those Hecate transformations.
"that's not even my final form..." - yes it is. |
Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:58:14 -
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Veri naise.
Gallente one looks quee-r. But it's Gallente. Caldari is the coolest of them all - some sort of terran satellite/deep space probe. Would even train the dreadful train missiles to fly one.
( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Black Drake
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:06:00 -
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So that's where my TV aerial went.
Also Jackdaw* |
Prince Damien
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:11:21 -
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Black Drake wrote:So that's where my TV aerial went. Also Jackdaw*
Right, thx for pointing that out. Fixed now. o7 |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:19:17 -
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Found an early concept image of the Hecate.
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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
72
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:47:44 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:So glad I fly Gallente ships. \O/ Mr Epeen
So glad I fly everything! (well, almost everything sub-cap anyway)
Those 2 look really good, I guess a Jackdaw and Hecate are going to join my Confessor in the hangar. :)
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2758
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:03:09 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:So glad I fly Gallente ships. \O/ Mr Epeen Looks good, has good bonuses, and a nice slot layout. Can't wait for it to be released.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
432
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:11:50 -
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Funny thing is, I just recently starting playing Black Flag again just because the naval warfare part of it is a unique sort of fun.
Also, my two only questions are (yes, I'm gonna be "that guy") A. is the Jackdaw missile or gun boat and B. does the Hecate have drones or is it all gun? |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1245
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:16:25 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Funny thing is, I just recently starting playing Black Flag again just because the naval warfare part of it is a unique sort of fun.
Also, my two only questions are (yes, I'm gonna be "that guy") A. is the Jackdaw missile or gun boat and B. does the Hecate have drones or is it all gun?
Jackdaw is a missile boat, Hecate is a gun boat (doubt it will have a drone bay but that's unknown right now)
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Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
102
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:53:22 -
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Jackmaw looks too skinny along the hull. Hopefully its just a bad image perspective.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
434
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:59:57 -
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Is it just me or does the Hecate kind of look like a McDonald's Happy Meal toy? Not trying to make fun of it, just being honest, and the Jackdaw looks like some Homeworld'ish probe...kind of lanky and skinny, like a bug of sorts. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
328
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:07:39 -
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Those things are gorgeous. Can't wait! =O |
Filip Bonn
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:14:42 -
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This one is piece of crap.
Done by designer at lunch time ?
Oh..! Hey I just found Hekate prototype, look:
Hekate |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20646
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:26:18 -
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I saw the Hecate stats, and fell in like.
I saw the Hecate design, and fell in love.
That ship.. I shall name it 'Jessica Alba'.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Oraac Ensor
617
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:42:23 -
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After the Amarr and Minmatar versions were released I was fearing that all these ships were going to look like shite. The Jackdaw unfortunately follows the trend but - praise be! - the Hecate is a ship I would be proud to fly. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1248
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:45:07 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:After the Amarr and Minmatar versions were released I was fearing that all these ships were going to look like shite. The Jackdaw unfortunately follows the trend but - praise be! - the Hecate is a ship I would be proud to fly.
........trend?
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Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:47:05 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:After the Amarr and Minmatar versions were released I was fearing that all these ships were going to look like shite. The Jackdaw unfortunately follows the trend but - praise be! - the Hecate is a ship I would be proud to fly. ........trend? ??? |
Serene Repose
2430
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:56:33 -
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OH! The Hecate is kickass. Best of the bunch.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1459
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:01:26 -
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Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad.
The Tears Must Flow
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Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:05:07 -
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Been flying gallente since 2006, got a tattoo of the logo on my arm.
Now that Ive illustrated my fanboyism... I gotta say that Im not a fan of the hecate design. The concept art sketches looked way more Gallente than what they decided on. It looks too much like a one particular Angel Frigate, lol. I think the flat design betrays Gallente architecture schemes and it just looks too bland and uninspired to be truly Gallente.
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
324
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:16:06 -
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Filip Bonn wrote:[quote=Prince Damien]From the Art Panel Oh..! Hey I just found Hekate prototype, look: Hekate Prototype
People flying the Hecate will need it to soak up the tears! |
Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC
76
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:41:23 -
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I love the design on Hecate, it is a very distinct look that we don't have yet. Plus it is going to look especially awesome in flight I think. |
Trevor Dalech
Dalechar Pest Control
99
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Posted - 2015.03.22 04:34:44 -
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From BBC/nature:
Quote:Diminutive members of the crow family, jackdaws are renowned for their love - and often theft - of bright, shiny objects. Herein might lie the origins of their common name, as 'jack' is used traditionally to denote something smaller than the norm, and also to refer to a rogue or thief. In both cases the jackdaw doesn't disappoint. The 'daw' is probably an imitation from its cawing call, but can also mean a simpleton. Those with open fires may well consider the jackdaw a pest as their messy nests of sticks and twigs often block chimneys, and have been known to fall down them - bird included.
This sounds like my kind of ship! |
Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:13:17 -
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Droidyk wrote:I love the design on Hecate, it is a very distinct look that we don't have yet. Plus it is going to look especially awesome in flight I think.
Have you not seen the Nemesis.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
400
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Posted - 2015.03.22 11:07:38 -
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UGH, UGH, UGHLY..... |
Jallukola
45
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:31:00 -
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Too much Mordu's, too little native Caldari, trash material.
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
272
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:40:04 -
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The fact that the Hecate design is hated by half and loved by the other half means the designer did a good job at designing a gallente ship.
I didn't like the svipul look alive, I loved the split in two and box pre designs. This one didn't look so good until they finished designing it.
ISD Dorrim > Hey, a fedo!
Thread closed.
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Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC
76
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Posted - 2015.03.22 16:15:52 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Droidyk wrote:I love the design on Hecate, it is a very distinct look that we don't have yet. Plus it is going to look especially awesome in flight I think. Have you not seen the Nemesis.
I did and it seems quite different, the only similarity I can find is the horizontal shape, and it's not flat and long as Hecate design. But just my opinion |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.03.22 16:17:19 -
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The Hecate is bland. If I wanted a YB-49, I would go back to 1947 to get one.
The Jackdaw reminds me of a tactical shotgun. It's all business, and business is good...
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Jallukola
45
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Posted - 2015.03.22 16:50:44 -
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stoicfaux wrote:The Jackdaw reminds me of a tactical shotgun. It's all business, and business is good... So only the edgy mall ninjas will pilot one?
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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
709
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:08:06 -
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All those ppl with their "power creep". Where were you when Cruisers speeds got "balanced"? Where were you when Orthrus was introduced? Embrace the powercreep and train caldari tac dessie 5.
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Alexstrazaas
Perkone Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:58:53 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:All those ppl with their "power creep". Where were you when Cruisers speeds got "balanced"? Where were you when Orthrus was introduced? Embrace the powercreep and train caldari tac dessie 5.
CALDARI FOR LIFE!
however, i am saw the caldari ship can't use hybreds. As i am a Hybred Calari!
GOGOGO ROHKINATOR!
on a serious note i do at least have decent missile skills |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1262
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:06:33 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad.
It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently".
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4885
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:35:03 -
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I'm not a fan of either design, but not fussed. I don't need to like how the ship looks, just how it flies.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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Pediculus Humanus
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:57:12 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad. It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently".
Sadly, t3 destroyers are stupidly overpowered. The two we got so far make the whole AF class useless, no matter if solo or gang. It's not that AFs were awesome before t3 dessies got introduced, but at least they were kinda-sorta-useful. Also, many cruisers and battlecruisers seem crap compared to t3 dessies.
Yes, I am using t3 dessies No, I haven't died horribly to t3 dessies (haven't died to them even once, actually). Yes, this is a forum alt. T3 dessies need a nerf.
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Specia1 K
State War Academy Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:35:30 -
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My flying stick, er, stork. The TV aerial comparison is spot on.
Shouldn't it have even a remote resemblance to the t1 missile hull? |
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Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:48:38 -
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Hecate isn't coming out until July so the art department has time to go back to the drawing board and give it a more exciting transformation. Because as it stands now it looks like a few tiny flaps pop up.
Otherwise it is pretty cool looking. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
237
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Posted - 2015.03.26 08:07:39 -
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Jallukola wrote: Too much Mordu's, too little native Caldari, trash material.
Mordu's ships are flat, more like SR-71 blackbird. Jackdaw: -hull made of rectangles - check -antennas - check -missile boat - check -shield tanked - check -i don't give a s*** how it looks until its effective - check. Caldari in every aspect. Continuation of new recons designs. Stances are weird, i cannot imagine where those middle "wings" fold. Alongside the hull? Is it raw version?
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Hermanni Pursiainen
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.26 08:33:56 -
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Filip Bonn wrote:This one is piece of crap. Done by designer at lunch time ? Oh..! Hey I just found Hekate prototype, look: Hekate Prototype
Hahaha, oh lawdy.
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Jallukola
50
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Posted - 2015.03.26 10:59:38 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Jallukola wrote: Too much Mordu's, too little native Caldari, trash material.
Mordu's ships are flat, more like SR-71 blackbird. Jackdaw: -hull made of rectangles - check -antennas - check -missile boat - check -shield tanked - check -i don't give a s*** how it looks until its effective - check. Caldari in every aspect. Continuation of new recons designs. Stances are weird, i cannot imagine where those middle "wings" fold. Alongside the hull? Is it raw version? Dunno, Caldari ships still tend to have that roundness in them, softening the otherwise blocky shapes coupled with distinctive electronics system. They are very modern-looking, or atleast near future, from the perspective of mechanical design, which is why I love them.
This Jackdaw on the other hand? Looks like a tin-coated tampoon machined in a lathe, or quite possibly CNC mill. Too flat shapes. EDIT: Just like that Mordu's cruiser and battleship, forgot their name, and frankly those ships are not worth remembering anyways.
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Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance
9
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Posted - 2015.04.22 15:54:03 -
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i like the looks of most of the cald ships. but this one... its not even looks like a ship =P but i like the gal one =) and its need to have drones. the best gal ships has drones. 3 like the comet has would be sufficient. and i want quafe skin for it for free -.- |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1244
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Posted - 2015.04.22 16:01:25 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I saw the Hecate stats, and fell in like.
I saw the Hecate design, and fell in love.
That ship.. I shall name it 'Jessica Alba'.
^my fan!
\o/
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3943
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Posted - 2015.04.23 02:04:21 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Found an early concept image of the Hecate. Here's a later draft image.
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Sha'Do Khan
Pirate Nomads
7
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Posted - 2015.04.25 03:09:13 -
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I'll cast my vote. I'm not a fan of the Jackdaw. I looks like an old short-wave antenna, or maybe a cell tower on it's side. I really don't like the new trend of all the fragile looking antenna sticking out in all directions.
It wasn't that bad when it was only the Mordu ships, it gave them a unique look, but now it's leaking into the other races.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2211
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Posted - 2015.04.25 03:30:39 -
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Err, I really like how the Jackdaw looks. Crap name though. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1408
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Posted - 2015.04.25 03:42:44 -
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Jallukola wrote:Jeremiah Saken wrote:Jallukola wrote: Too much Mordu's, too little native Caldari, trash material.
Mordu's ships are flat, more like SR-71 blackbird. Jackdaw: -hull made of rectangles - check -antennas - check -missile boat - check -shield tanked - check -i don't give a s*** how it looks until its effective - check. Caldari in every aspect. Continuation of new recons designs. Stances are weird, i cannot imagine where those middle "wings" fold. Alongside the hull? Is it raw version? Dunno, Caldari ships still tend to have that roundness in them, softening the otherwise blocky shapes coupled with distinctive electronics system. They are very modern-looking, or atleast near future, from the perspective of mechanical design, which is why I love them. This Jackdaw on the other hand? Looks like a tin-coated tampoon machined in a lathe, or quite possibly CNC mill. Too flat shapes. EDIT: Just like that Mordu's cruiser and battleship, forgot their name, and frankly those ships are not worth remembering anyways. I can't think of many pre or post redesign Caldari ships that were high on roundness, though I may be misunderstanding your use of the word. I have to say I like it all thinks considered, but It's not quite as appealing a design as some of the pre-mordu designs felt to me. Things like the Naga or Corax, even the Raven and Scorp seemed to have a better feel to them IMHO.
But I'll still train and buy one cause it still looks cool. |
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Specia1 K
State War Academy Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2015.04.25 05:07:40 -
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I predict that with the crappy name, walking-stick looks and current state of LMs that the Jackdawf will be the least used of all the D3s. It will also come pre-nerfed (unlike the first 2 releases) and will suffer a dismal future upon the release of the Gallente ship. As much as I try and train my Caldari ships, I will hold out for the last ship release.
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Cetan Bennu
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.26 05:41:46 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:Veri naise. Gallente one looks quee-r. But it's Gallente. Caldari is the coolest of them all - some sort of terran satellite/deep space probe. Would even train the dreadful train missiles to fly one.
the Caldari looks like shipping crates welded together with some scaffolding left over |
Mario Putzo
1223
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Posted - 2015.04.26 05:57:40 -
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When can we expect super talwar to make an appearance anyway? |
Hipqo
Project AIice Whatever.
95
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Posted - 2015.04.26 06:28:48 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad. It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently".
More like "these ships make an entire class of ships obsolete". Its heavy powercreep alright, and thats why CCP is nerfing them now.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
972
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Posted - 2015.04.26 11:14:18 -
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Hipqo wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad. It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently". More like "these ships make an entire class of ships obsolete". Its heavy powercreep alright, and thats why CCP is nerfing them now.
The velocity nerf and mass adjustment, true. Rest is not quite a nerf in my view. Just 10mn is becoming quite hard to fit, but more utility might turn out to be nice. Going for the supposed king of the frig scene: AFs are crap, dictors are normally gimped for bubbling and sometimes cloak. No wonder full combat fitted T3ds appear strong. With how the new iteration on sisi feels, they gonna be almost as strong as the worm still. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.04.28 10:37:38 -
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When is the Jackdaw coming out? It's not in the Mosaic patch notes!?!?? WTF?
I summon a DEV to explain the atrocity! |
Hipqo
Project AIice Whatever.
98
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:01:49 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Hipqo wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad. It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently". More like "these ships make an entire class of ships obsolete". Its heavy powercreep alright, and thats why CCP is nerfing them now. The velocity nerf and mass adjustment, true. Rest is not quite a nerf in my view. Just 10mn is becoming quite hard to fit, but more utility might turn out to be nice. Going for the supposed king of the frig scene: AFs are crap, dictors are normally gimped for bubbling and sometimes cloak. No wonder full combat fitted T3ds appear strong. With how the new iteration on sisi feels, they gonna be almost as strong as the worm still.
With the amount of minuses theres on the patch notes, i simply dont understand why you dont see it as a nerf, a well needed nerf. But thats another talk :)
All im saying is, as long as the t3 destroyers will dominate frigs, its powercreep, as it gives frig pilots a unfair disadvantage in combat. One which wasnt here before and by doing so CCP decides, for us, that frigs are not worth training for anymore, unless you really want covert ops.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2248
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:09:31 -
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Pediculus Humanus wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Tactical destroyers are OP. Power creep is bad. It isn't power creep. It's "these ships do something new and people are too lazy to adjust apparently". Sadly, t3 destroyers are stupidly overpowered. The two we got so far make the whole AF class useless, no matter if solo or gang. It's not that AFs were awesome before t3 dessies got introduced, but at least they were kinda-sorta-useful. Also, many cruisers and battlecruisers seem crap compared to t3 dessies. Yes, I am using t3 dessies No, I haven't died horribly to t3 dessies (haven't died to them even once, actually). Yes, this is a forum alt. T3 dessies need a nerf. I think.T3 destroyers only seem super powerful because t1 and 2 destroyers are do pathetically weak. T1 destroyers are barely capable of overpowering a single t1 frigate, routinely lose against T2 and faction frigates and die almost instantly against cruisers. T2 destroyers are barely any different.
Then you get to T3s which are actually capable of curbstomping frigates with relative ease.
Personally I'd rather see other destroyers buffed into line with T3 destroyers than see T3 destroyers nerfed into mediocrity. |
Cpt Bunny
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
25
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:20:03 -
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This is power creep for sure, but i believe there is purpose and direction behind it.
Picture this:
Future release of T3 BC, BS etc Shortly after CCP makes eve free to play, for all Tech 1 ships and modules.
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
244
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Posted - 2015.05.15 02:53:25 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote: I think.T3 destroyers only seem super powerful because t1 and 2 destroyers are do pathetically weak. T1 destroyers are barely capable of overpowering a single t1 frigate, routinely lose against T2 and faction frigates and die almost instantly against cruisers. T2 destroyers are barely any different.
Then you get to T3s which are actually capable of curbstomping frigates with relative ease.
Personally I'd rather see other destroyers buffed into line with T3 destroyers than see T3 destroyers nerfed into mediocrity.
The tech three destroyers are definitely not op. I think compared to tech one cruisers, they have their strengths and their weaknesses. Tech one cruisers can get the same job done just as well, most of the time. But there are places a tech three destroyer can go that a tech one cruiser just can't. They seem pretty balanced to me.
I agree about the other destroyers though. I'd like to see the tech one destroyers get a small speed boost. The way I look at it, when a tech one cruiser is faster than a tech one destroyer, that's pretty messed up, especially when you consider just how much faster they actually are. A tech one Omen with a MWD goes 2,000 m/s. A tech one Coercer with a MWD goes 1,700 m/s. That's crazy considering the Coercer can't field anywhere near the same level of tank or damage of an Omen. I think a small speed boost to the tech one destroyers would be perfect. Maybe bump the Coercer up from 1,700 to 1,800 or even 1,900 m/s. Possibly a small boost to their hit points as well? I know it's dangerous to go around boosting things but tech one destroyers really could use a small bit of love I think.
As for the tech two destroyers, I think those are pretty well balanced actually.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.15 02:59:52 -
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Cpt Bunny wrote:This is power creep for sure, but i believe there is purpose and direction behind it.
Picture this:
Future release of T3 BC, BS etc Shortly after CCP makes eve free to play, for all Tech 1 ships and modules.
So they suddenly decide they don't like, need or even want money from the vast majority of their playerbase? |
Staleward Ad'mraa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.15 04:31:15 -
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That ship looks very fragile... aka Jackdraw. I tend to sway towards ships that look sturdy and strong. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Whittorical Quandary
The Asteroid is Depleted
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:55:58 -
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Personally, I was hoping the caldari one to take a bird shape like some of the other caldari ships (IE Raven, Condor, Moa...)
Then mode changes would extend/reduce the wingspan like a bird, wider for cruising/defensive and narrower for snipe or speed like a bird does to drop down on prey. (I think the f15 fighter jet also did something similar for carrying heavy loads etc.)
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
135
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Posted - 2015.05.22 04:17:08 -
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All t3 are OP. Power creep. Power Leap |
Specia1 K
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.22 04:51:19 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:All t3 are OP. Power creep. Power Leap
Meep Meep |
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